area hospitals merge
Good Samaritan to take over Dayton Heart as of May 17
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Tuesday, March 25, 2008
DAYTON — With Good Samaritan Hospital's purchase of Dayton Heart Hospital for $55 million, Good Sam will gain a successful business and Dayton Heart's 350 employees and knock off a major competitor.
The Catholic hospital, part of Premier Health Partners, will take over Dayton Heart on May 17, James R. Pancoast, Good Sam's president and chief executive, said Monday, March 24.
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"Our goal is to deliver the best possible patient care, and there will be no disruption of service," Pancoast said. "Two outstanding heart programs are coming together, and we will incorporate best practices from both."
Pancoast said the purchase will "a little more than double" the size of Good Sam's cardiovascular services.
The hospitals currently compete for heart care patients.
On May 17, Dayton Heart's name will change to Dayton Heart and Vascular Hospital, Owned and Operated by Good Samaritan Hospital. It will remain at its current location at 707 S. Edwin C. Moses Blvd. until August 2009, when it becomes part of the $31 million heart and vascular center currently under construction on Good Sam's main campus, 2222 Philadelphia Drive.
After that transition, Good Sam likely will use Dayton Heart's three-story building for other clinical purposes, Pancoast said.
Dr. David Joffe, Dayton Heart's medical director, said the purchase allows Dayton Heart to continue its "patient-focused" model in a setting that provides all the benefits and expertise of a full-service hospital.
"We are very excited about all that it will have to offer," Joffe said.
Joffe is among several heart doctors who practiced primarily at Good Samaritan before the 1999 opening of Dayton Heart, which is jointly owned by nearly 50 physicians and MedCath Inc. of Charlotte, N.C.
Staff writer Kevin Lamb contributed to this report.
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$55 million deal
Dayton Heart will stay put for now, but its name will change. All staff and services will move to Good Sam's campus in August 2009. The building on Edwin C. Moses Boulevard will be used for other purposes.
Mary Garman, Dayton Heart's chief operating officer, will become the new facility's chief operating officer.
Good Samaritan will spend $5 million to establish the nonprofit Dayton Heart Institute, dedicated to cardiac education and prevention programs for physicians and the public.
The purchase will more than double the size of Good Sam's cardiovascular services.
Comments
By laverne
April 6, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this
in july 2007 i was sent to DHH from uvmc in troy, ohio. i am so thankful to DHH, THEY SAVED MY LIFE….. they were excellent in treating my condition. the doctors, nurses, and all the staff were very caring.
By trout
March 27, 2008 12:25 AM | Link to this
When St. E’s was forced to close BY MVH and the DDN it was Grandview (which is part of the Kettering Health Network) that took over Hopeland Clinic and what does Hopeland Clinic provide? Indigent health care. The Kettering Health Network also supports the Cassano clinic. What does the Cassano clinic provide? Indigent health care. What did MVH do and DDN support? Closing the best and tossing out the rest. Who picked up the pieces? KHN.
By janesarah18@yahoo.com----> Just a punk
March 26, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this
You’re just a punk 12 yr old kid sitting behind your pc talking a big and bad! Get a life freak!
By Frustrated Employee
March 26, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this
Ok so excuse for wrong thing, heaven forbid. I unlike some people have job that I enjoy and it made me stay up for 24 hrs straight. So forgive for writing the wrong thing. No offense I would die first before supporting Hillary or Obama. It is so nice to know what you think all hospital people are Hillary and Obama supporters you freaking psycho!!!
By What a joke---> janesarah18@yahoo.com
March 26, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this
What a joke. Yea I caled your skinny a@@ out, because YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. I can run circles around you! Nice point on the health care stuff..aaaa SKIPPA…aaaaa duHHHHHHHHHHH. You didnt even get that right!
Why dont you shut your pie hole and get a job and stop sucking off of society you Obama Hillary lover.
By I won't be going to MVH anymore
March 26, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this
“HIPPA”? Don’t you mean HIPAA? Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act.
By Mike In Ohio
March 25, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this
(continued from below)… More economic factors; luring employees who might not feel safe at the old GSH; luring employees who need to be close to home; luring employees with free parking; LURING HEALTHCARE CONSUMERS who are mostly suburban and semi-rural; it’s a lot cheaper to build new state of the art medical facilities than it is to retrofit a 40+ year old building. Considering Dayton’s dying economy, people of Dayton should be happy Premiere is investing in the Dayton market at all.
By Mike In Ohio
March 25, 2008 9:47 PM | Link to this
GSH North and MVH South were created in repsonse to a trend happening nationwide; that trend being full scale suburban hospitals. Look south to Cincinnati’s “Pill Hill” Hospitals and how they’re all building in Butler / Warren Co (and in a few instances in NKY). Consider the following factors: luring top talent that already lives in the burbs, on-call physicians living 5 minutes from the ER vs. living in Englewood and trying to get to GSH in 20 minutes or less)… (continued in above post)
By Mike In Ohio
March 25, 2008 9:40 PM | Link to this
PEOPLE SETTLE DOWN (or get over yourselves). It’s called MARKET SHARE, and in order for healthcare organizations like Premiere to be profitable in this market they need to consolidate in their clinical services. Cardiac services really need to be connected to the larger hospital making it easy for physicians/RN’s of all specialties to rotate in and out of the unit. It’s a lot more economical to do a direct admissionn from a cardiac unit when you’re connected to the medical center.
By Frustrated Reader
March 25, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this
Unless you work at DHH or GSH, I think all of you need to wait and see how things play out. Also, for the person that thinks DHH has only one heart surgeon, please get your facts straight. DHH has many heart surgeons that do surgery there. I am sure both hospitals are patient focused, and bad things can happen at any hospital anywhere. No one is perfect.
By Frustrated Employee
March 25, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
I am writing this in response to whom this may concern and called me out. I have friends in nursing that work all over the state of Ohio and their hospitals are converting to having a single patient in each room. There are many reasons for it HIPPA and safety being the big ones, do you even know what HIPPA is?? Obviously you have never worked in a hospital or been in one when we are trying to run a code in a tiny room that has 2 patients in it.
By concern citizen
March 25, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this
I can’t believe all the negativity expressed here. I am a GSH employee,who has recently moved back to the area after being away for 15 years.GSH has the most compassionate staff I have ever worked with and our patients are very grateful. I never once felt unsafe going to work. Don’t let a view give GSH a bad name. GSH is serving the community the best they can. At least someone is trying to make Dayton a better place.Where is our community pride?Take a trip and see what GSH has done to the area
By more information
March 25, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this
When St. E’s closed I couldn’t decide where to work. Being south of town the logical choice was Kettering. I found that the patients they expect to be treated as though they are in a hotel. I left there and went to Good Sam even though I was concerned about the drive. As it turns out. It takes 5 minutes longer to get to GSH than St.E. The patients are wonderful and respectful of the care that they get. It’s a different Population yes but it’s all what you want out of a job. I wanted respect.
By totally satisfied
March 25, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
Every hospital has a story as does every human being. I could tell you about my father being sent home from Kettering Hosp after having chest pain then 2 hours later he had a heart attack. It happens! My mother got MRSA after having a knee replacement at Kettering. It happens. DHH has lost most of it’s heart surgeons anyway. One going to Middletown and one to Kettering. That leaves them ONE. How can they function with one DOC?
By Dixie Lady
March 25, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
I thought opening Dayton Heart Hospital was a waste to begin with with the vacant St.E. building right beside it. Now they’re going to vacate a less than 5 year old building to build yet another one? Is is any wonder our health care costs are going out of sight. Where are all the hospitals getting the money to sponser the high school fields in the area and now U.D. too.
By maple1@aol.com Get a clue
March 25, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this
Spelling? You my friend are the bad speller. It is may or many? Get a clue!
By to the critical poster of Jake, eyes wide open, and others
March 25, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this
It seems like the same illiterate posting critical comments to “Jake” and others needs to spend more time learning (especially spelling)! “Lama” its “llama” you silly little fool. Why are you asking for phone numbers? Lonely? That’s because people like to hang out with folks who have something to offer. Obviously that isn’t you!!
By Rectal Anatomy is here degree
March 25, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
This is just another Dayton business going by the wayside in Dayton/Mont Cty. I wonder how many people at DHH voted for the Human Svc levy?
By tbill
March 25, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this
God forbid they get rid of any managers. How many nurses could they hire for Mary Garman’s salary?? What’s her degree in?
By tbill
March 25, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this
Why would GSH want to be involved with DHH?? I worked at DHH for almost a year and hated every minute. Inadequate parking, inadequate cafeteria (visitors and people working nearby compete with employees for cafeteria time/space), inadequately trained employees, labelling errors, unlabeled specimens, eating food in the lab, no chairs in the employee “lounge”, working with “live” specimens without gloves or eye protection or under a hood, inadequate staffing, etc. Should I go on?? They’re clueless
By I call Bullsh@t
March 25, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
Hey frustrated what is your phone number? You are the one who does know what you are talking about! There is no and i mean NO law or law comming that states hospitals in ohio have to move to all private rooms! Period! I call BULLSHIT!
By Frustrated Employee
March 25, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
You all really need to get a clue. In order to keep providing the services we do, we have to limit some things. The main the reason for that new add on to the hospital is because Ohio law is changing. All hospitals have to have private rooms for their patients and have to have this done by 2010. So we are just trying to keep up with standards and help improve our facilities. I really wish you all knew what you were talking about.
By Straight scoop
March 25, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
To add insight, GSH is actually owned and is one of over 70 hospitals of Catholic Health Initiatives (C.H.I.). C.H.I. is part of a venture with MedAmerica which has PHP operate the two hospitals of GSH and MVH, look on their web. Being mission based, I would correct all who state that MVH absorbs indigent care, it actually is GSH because of their mission and beliefs. So when someone states that MVH is the most indigent care, it is because they skew the numbers by taking the credit from GSH.
By I won't be going to MVH anymore
March 25, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this
I find this interesting since MVH announced in February that they were constructing a 440,000 sq ft, 11-story heart tower to the tune of $135 million. They’ve already torn down the McIntire & East buildings to make way for the new tower. What is PHP going to do with 2 major cardiac facilities. I can see one of them closing within the next few years & I guarantee it won’t be the one at MVH. Didn’t they recently close GSH’s trauma center? I see a repeat in the near future. What a waste of $.
By Another thing Jake
March 25, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this
Hit the post button ONCE!
By Hey jake the snake
March 25, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
Hey postmaster general get a clue you freaking liberal. This is what this forum is for…. VOICE YOUR OPINION. Go back to your lama farm in centerville you Hillary lover!
By jake
March 25, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this
What a bunch of sorry people. Instead of wasting your time being critical of the doctors, healthcare industry,and everything else you seem to be focused on - why not be thankful that when you do have an emergency, there is a facility and people to tend to you. Have you considered others who don’t have shelter,food,water,let alone health care? Instead of bitching about a “change” do something constructive. Have any of you considered volunteering your time - you certainly have enough of it.
By jake
March 25, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this
What a bunch of sorry people. Instead of wasting your time being critical of the doctors, healthcare industry,and everything else you seem to be focused on - why not be thankful that when you do have an emergency, there is a facility and people to tend to you. Have you considered others who don’t have shelter,food,water,let alone health care? Instead of bitching about a “change” do something constructive. Have any of you considered volunteering your time - you certainly have enough of it.
By jake
March 25, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this
What a bunch of sorry people. Instead of wasting your time being critical of the doctors, healthcare industry,and everything else you seem to be focused on - why not be thankful that when you do have an emergency, there is a facility and people to tend to you. Have you considered others who don’t have shelter,food,water,let alone health care? Instead of bitching about a “change” do something constructive. Have any of you considered volunteering your time - you certainly have enough of it.
By To Roscoe P. Golightly
March 25, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this
The reason why MVH has over 99 million ER visits is because St. E’s closed serveral years back. All the low life people who sucked the life out of St. E’s now ride the bus a little further across the river to MVH. You people need to get a clue about this topic! Does anyone really see what this is about?
By Roscoe
March 25, 2008 8:27 AM | Link to this
TO TROUT : Do the math before engaging the mouth. MVH does the most indigent care of anyone in this town. Twice as much as Kettering Medical Center. Furthermore, MVH has the busiest ER in the state. That’s right 99,000+ ER visits in 2006, more than ANY OTHER hospital in the state. So until you know the FACTS, keep your conjecture to yourself……………
By Ms. M.
March 25, 2008 8:20 AM | Link to this
Saw this coming when General Motors threatened to drop the DHH from their plan this year but decided it wasn’t ample time for patients to obtain outside physicians and would wait another year before dropping DHH. Now they can move forward and keep us with our present doctors that are associated with the DHH. Looks like a win/win solution for the GM patients, doctors and hospitals. The small atmosphere of the DHH was my choice but we don’t always have that choice as money talks.
By larry
March 25, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this
Good Sam is not the best hospital does not run a clean hospital and talks like they have no money. Now they spend 55 million. What is this non-profit bs.
By Frustrtated Employee
March 25, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this
I know you think you know about MVH being non-profit. You don’t have a clue at all. We take majority of the indigent people, not Kettering. In order for us to keep growing and providing services we have to appeal to people who have insurance. And you the reason you have to wait so long in the ER at any of the premier health partners ER, is because there is no room in the hospital for your loved one to go to, we are maxed out
By Frustrtated Employee
March 25, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this
I know you think you know about MVH being non-profit. You don’t have a clue at all. We take majority of the indigent people, not Kettering. In order for us to keep growing and providing services we have to appeal to people who have insurance. And you the reason you have to wait so long in the ER at any of the premier health partners ER, is because there is no room in the hospital for your loved one to go to, we are maxed ou
By Concerned
March 25, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this
My biggest concern is that there will still be the same family oriented services that DHH has now. Also the safety factor and the parking for family. Will there be a break with the parking fees for family especially spouse of the patient. We all know that, that is a fairly high crime area, and to be exposed to that when the family is already in a stressful situation is asking a little much. DHH has always been easy to get to and accomodates the family of the patient.
By rj
March 25, 2008 5:14 AM | Link to this
My aunt had a heart attack several years ago and went to the so-called Good Samaritan Hospital. She caught some sort of staph infection at the Good Samaritan Hospital and almost died. Last summer, I had a heart attack and was transported to Dayton Heart Hospital. I remain impressed with the DHH, staff, facilities, and genuine concern for ME. I am not happy with this buy-out, takeover, merger (whatever spin of your choosing). For further heart treatments, I will now go to Columbus or Toledo.
By trout
March 25, 2008 5:11 AM | Link to this
Wow………does anyone remember the demise of St. E’s and Ellen Belcher’s incredibly critical and misguided comments regarding the emloyees at St. E’s during the Dr. Burke era? Who’s doing was that? MVH. St. E’s would still be alive and well if it weren’t for the slanted misreporting by Ellen Belcher. Who took over the indigent care left behind? Hmmm…..MVH/Premiere? NOT! Kettering Health Network took that on….Cassano anyone? Anyone else really care about the people in this town?
By Todd
March 25, 2008 4:31 AM | Link to this
I’ve been going to Good Sam all my life and both my kids were born there. I have always had compassionate, professional care from the Doctor’s, Nurses and staff. Looks like a good move for all involved to me. St. Elizabeth is a thriving health Care center with over 50 businesses in it and is near capacity, so DHH’s building shouldn’t end up unused. I can’t believe the crying and b*tching on here, grow up, we have great health care in Dayton. The Premier and Kettering hospitals all do great jobs
By I agree
March 24, 2008 11:05 PM | Link to this
You are right. Since Jim Pancoast has taken over GSH it has turned around. They own alot of the land around it and sell it to employees to keep it looking nice. They have done great things. The looks are modern and the services are the finest. You’re a complete idiot if you join a band wagon when the drummer is a moron.
By Educated
March 24, 2008 10:59 PM | Link to this
Pop’s daughter I feel very sad for you because you haven’t kept on the news in town. PHP-Good Sam own a great deal of the land up and down Salem Ave. I have traveled there to work for 10 years now and have never been assaulted or even had a problem of any kind. I am sad that people are so uneducated with where the real problems are. We have one of the finest ER’s in town and our operating rooms are continually being updated so that they are the finest in town. Maybe you need to take a ride.
By The Insider
March 24, 2008 10:58 PM | Link to this
…The point I am trying to make is that both Medcath (Dayton Heart) and MVH are 800lb gorillas that will use their extensive resources to gain market share and profit. I have been a past critic of MVH’s business practices. But in this scenario at least MVH is OUR 800lb gorilla and the profit doesn’t get sent to North Carolina (Medcath’s home), but stays in Dayton.
By The Insider
March 24, 2008 10:52 PM | Link to this
…MVH and Kettering did everything in their power to repeal Gov. Voinivich’s termination of the Certificate of Need process that MVH and Kettering had rigged for the past 20 years. They kept beds 25% beyond demand so when a new hospital came around they claimed an oversupply and no need for more beds. But on the other hand Dayton Heart has a little used emergency room and focuses only on the profitable heart sector while MVH and Kettering take in more indigent people…
By more information
March 24, 2008 10:50 PM | Link to this
As usual the public doesn’t have the correct information. If you knew anything at all you would know how much money PHP has put into Good Sam and how much more improved the services are there now than when they were a stand alone hospital. Every hospital has their issues but Good Sam is a great place to work and the patient population there appreciates what you do for them instead of expecting to be waiting on like they are in a hotel.
By The Insider
March 24, 2008 10:47 PM | Link to this
When Medcath came to town they tied up three properties. One was denied on Edwin Moses. Two were approved for their facility on on Wilmington Pike & I-675, one in Sugarcreek Twp. and one in Centerville. After they had their permits to build the facility in Centerville, they negotiated a deal with The Franciscan hospital to get access to the insurance companies like Blue Cross because MVH was blocking them. They dumped Centerville, stiffed the property owner and built next to the Franciscan…
By dindabus
March 24, 2008 10:38 PM | Link to this
Kudos to Dr. Joffe and his team. They were brave enough to make this a reality years ago…the results - higher quality care for those in the area.
Now, everyone take notice…more competition equals higher quality. Do you think you’ll get the highest quality from a ‘national health care plan’ AKA socialism? Keep that in mind when you ‘vote with your heart’. You may be voting for your life.
By Eyes may be wide open but his head up his a*s!
March 24, 2008 9:24 PM | Link to this
You are a joke. What is your phone number you freak. Nice spelling “perhaps there aren’t may intelligent people left”
before you call someone else get it right yourself butt face!
By Alice
March 24, 2008 9:06 PM | Link to this
It seems to me You all are having the same problem in Dayton with your Hospitals as we’re having in Knoxville Tennessee. I certainly hope things turn out better for you, than what has come to us, with so called Mercy Partners(St.Mary’s-Baptist)bull…. Oh by the way I am a native Ohioan and have had good treatment in GS in Cincinnati, but that was quite a few years ago. My Heart Inst. was in our Baptist Hopital. If it weren’t for the great skill of the Doctors nurses I wouldn’t be here now.
By DAN
March 24, 2008 8:54 PM | Link to this
I am very sad to see this happen. I don’t think people realize the difference between ‘for profit’ and ‘non-profit’. They believe ‘non profit’ is not only better, but that these facilities are working for the minimum fee, when in essence it is just an umbrella they can hide behind for tax purposes…a legal loophole. DHH was ‘for profit’, and they gave quality care because of this. Their fees were no higher than anywhere else, but the care was ‘top notch’. Another option taken away.
By Mike
March 24, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this
Ron you are an idiot. First of all Greene is part of the Kettering Network, not Premier. Premier is based in Dayton Ohio their Corporate offices are in downtown Dayton. Premier does not “own” anything. MVH is owned by MedAmerica Health Systems and GSH is owned by Samaritan Health Partners. Premier may manage them but they do not own them. MVH might have gross revenues of a billion or more but their expenses are also close to a billion. GSH is also in Dayton so what are they losing?
By Ron
March 24, 2008 7:38 PM | Link to this
Chaulk up anotherone for the big guy. GSH and MVH along with Middletown, Green and countless other PHP in the area are all owned by who? You guessed it Premier that is based in another state. MVH is considered a non-profit but makes almost 2 billion a year. The loss of DHH is a terrible blow the the area. DHH was a for profit. That means they payed taxes to the area. They also raised the bar in providing care to the patient. I have worked in them all. I will miss DHH
By Barbara
March 24, 2008 7:05 PM | Link to this
I was just wondering, the last time I checked isn’t Good Samaritan Hospital in Dayton, Ohio. All those people saying that more jobs are leaving Dayton need to recheck their maps. Also, no jobs are being lost according to the news, and I am sure the caregivers at DHH will still continue to give quality care whatever building they are in.
By Concerned citizen
March 24, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this
I just want to reply to all of the negative feedback. First, get your facts straight before you comment on the care that will be given at the new Dayton Heart and Vascular Hospital. Yes DHH has been sold to GSH, but the DHH employees will be going to the new facility and I am sure will still give the same great care they are known for. DHH has showed the community what patient focused care is all about, and I will still take my family to the new facility for heart care without any hesitation.
By By Karen
March 24, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this
Ironically, I had my aunt and a good friend to unfortunately had to go to the hospital at the same time, for the possible heart issues. My friend (54) went to DHH, and my aunt (82) who has congestive heart failure (chf), went to GSH. DHH admitted, tested and ruled out heart failure, immediately. My aunt, stayed in GSH, Emergency FOREVER…, then sent to a room, problem existed, released in 2 days, and we had to send her back. I hate to hear about this sale. Bad experience personally at GSH.
By Eyes wide open
March 24, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this
HUH…your spelling and punctuation say it all - “Renial”. Unfortunatly, based on your post and some of the others below, perhaps there aren’t may intelligent people left in Dayton to think things through and that is why it is suffering. After all isn’t communist thinking lacking in diversity, however you seem opposed to diversity of thought. Are these the “type” of people that live in Dayton? Help us all out and get some education and perspective.
By Pop's Daughter
March 24, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this
How very sad to see Dayton Heart Hospital close. My folks are elderly and when they need heart care Dayton Heart is their very 1st choice. Dayton Heart’s staff, nurses, doctors and cafe is just so great and there is just no easy way to get to Good Sam. My family feels safe at Dayton Heart’s unlike at Good Sam’s location, where people will assault you for the fun of it. I sure hope my folks doctor changes his privliges to somewhere other than Good Sam.
By HUH Where did you come from man?
March 24, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this
maple1@aol.com…..HUH Do you always think like this? Where do you get this communist thinking at Lee? I mean do you shave your dogs butt today, because your vet might one day say that your dog is suffering from renial failure?!? WOW! You are out there man. These are the “type” of people that live in Dayton.
By Eyes wide open
March 24, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this
Make no mistake about it Dayton. This transaction is not about care, facilities, doctors or the local healthcare worker. It is about money! Your money! Who pays health insurance premiums, taxes, Medicare, etc.? You do. Who made money on this? The doctors who stole business from our local hospitals and made them buy it back at a premium with your money. Healthcare reform starts here baby - no more physician referrals to their own facilties!
By Managed Care
March 24, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this
The story below is just managed care at its finest….
By I seriously doubt PHP is that smart maple1@aol.com
March 24, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this
You give them to much CREDIT! Being involved with DHH business…(lets just say an active person in interst from the beginning ie… ground breaking and still have the shovel in my shed) you give them to much credit. This is a much bigger issue of Dayton having to many hospitals! Why is there a huge facility in Centerville. Why is that facility “empty” ie… brick, wire and windows only….
Dayton is falling by the way side. We are being taxes to death and people just expect a free ride.
By Heart Patient
March 24, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this
I was in GSH a little over a year ago with a heart attack. Premier Heart group there told me there was nothing they could do to help me and sent me home to die. So I went to OSU Ross Heart Hospital where they have successfully treated me. The care I got at GSH was not bad,it was the lack of knowledge by the Doctors there that almost killed me. Doesn’t matter how much money they spend on the facility if the Docs don’t know what they are doing. If you need heart care get out of Dayton!!!!
By Eyes wide open
March 24, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this
The anatomy of a boutique hospital: Take the most profitable business line-Heart Surgery out of MVH. Have the Dr.’s invest so that you can guarantee referrals (volume) while also insulating your hospital from a severe competitive attack. Then, make money while the competitors placate you - since they don’t want to anger the physician investors who work in their hospital too. Finally, sell them back their physicians and volume at several times the market price. Brilliant! Who pays? U and Me
By Correction
March 24, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this
You are correct, native daytonian, GSH is not 3 miles from the current Dayton Heart Hospital. Google maps puts it at 3.7 driving miles. To you, maybe that is “WAY more than 3 miles away.” To me, it is about 3 miles distance. By the way, if anyone was “spouting off”, it was you in your original post. You attacked Mike with your opinion which was, as far as I can see, based on incorrect facts. Hopefully, you can now see the error(s) in your original post.
By Barb
March 24, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this
What the about the superior patient care that will be available when these two well-know and recognized programs come together? Heart disease is leading the way in deaths per year. Dayton should rejoice in the intelligence of the physicians that had the good sense to make patient-focused care a priority.
By Another Dayton business moves out
March 24, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
Does anyone see whats going on here. Dayton is a cr@p hole. Taxes are killing us. If I remember right the nuns at St E’s lost their a*s running a hospital and sold part of their land to DHH to save themselves! But they closed anyway. As far as a free clinic! i think that was St. E’s job way back when. Now hospitals cant do that. Its said to say but I have no concern for a free clinic. Im tired of being TAXES to death in Mont Cty. I have my own problems. People need to stop sucking!
By native daytonian
March 24, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this
You are correct, “correction” I did make a mistake- it is being built at the GSH campus. Now, before you start spouting off at people ask yourself, is that 3 miles from it’s current location? I think not! :-)
By Edy
March 24, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this
I don’t think Dayton has a free clinic. They need one very badly to ease up the emergency clinics for the true emergencies. Most poor are on Medicaid anyway so they are well taken care of and those with good jobs have medical. It’s the ones who working and making slightly above the poverty level who are not elgible for medicaid or medicare and their place of employment refuses to provide any kind of medical who need a free or sliding scale clinic that you don’t have to wait 2 months to get in.
By william
March 24, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
I think this is a good move for everyone. This purchase should allow for the elimination of duplication of services. Dayton has too many heart programs and MedCath came to the area as the only for profit operation. Many of the doctors who bought in to it did it for the money. Now that their reimbursement has changed they are willing to sell. Free standing hospitals are having their dollars cut driving business back to the hospitals where it should be.
By Anonymous
March 24, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this
I just have to say something about Downtown Dayton, It is only good because of the clubs downtown,Masque, MJ’s, Aquarius, Sinclair Community College, Schuster Center, and Victoria Theatre, Kettering will always come out on top with the best care in the Miami Valley, My dad went to Kettering Medical Center on Southern BLVD, and they gave him great care, that’s all that I have to say is, DAYTON SUCKS, KETTERING ROCKS!!!
By PB
March 24, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
Hopefully this does not change the quality of care given to patients. I was unfortunate enough to have to go to DHH. It was top notch quality people- from the custodians up! The facility was great and allowed me to recover with comfort knowing that I was in such great hands. I have had friends in bad hospitals before, and would not recommend them to anyone.
By PB
March 24, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this
Hopefully this does not change the quality of care given to patients. I was unfortunate enough to have to go to DHH. It was top notch quality people- from the custodians up! The facility was great and allowed me to recover with comfort knowing that I was in such great hands. I have had friends in bad hospitals before, and would not recommend them to anyone.
By hj
March 24, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this
Always admired Dayton Heart and their services, but it is a downhill plunge joining Good Sam !
By Correction
March 24, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
native daytonian, you are the misinformed one. The heart and vascular hospital that is being currently built by Good Sam is part of their existing Dayton hospital. It is NOT part of the Samaritan North Surgery Center. Try to have your facts straight before correcting someone else.
Clearly, you do not understand even the most basic facts of this new arrangement.
By Beth
March 24, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this
GSH is the worst hospial in the Dayton area and now once again “Premier” Health Partners is taking away a great hospital in the area just so they can feel like there is no threat to them and they can run it like an assembly line just like the rest, oh how woderful and we wonder why so many go to Cincy for health care————hmmmmm.
By Tom in Kettering
March 24, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this
Gooly Gee, The Kettering & Grandview organizations were just named int the top 100 of Modern Healtcare Magazine. GS & MVH did not make the list. Does that tell you something?
By native daytonian
March 24, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
Mike- you are terribly misinformed dear! 1st they said they are moving to Good Sam North which is WAY more than 3 miles away! Also, Premier Health Partners OWNS Good Sam & MVH-so how can they surpass what they own? And the building will probably go to waste-just like it was empty for so many years after Franciscan closed. Premier is taking money, taxes, and jobs out of Dayton and moving it to Clayton-just like they did with the South facility they opened in Centerville.
By Lisa
March 24, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this
I think Cheryl needs to repeat her message. I don’t think I got it the first three times.
By GSnomore
March 24, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this
I’ve told my husband if I get sick again, just kick me to the curb. Do not, I repeat, do not take me to GS. They nearly killed me last May. They would not listen. (Told them about conditions) They did not communicate and misdiagnosed. (Gave me drug without me being told about it) I had a terrible adverse reaction. (crash cart) They literally hid the ER doctor from my husband. They went over and above to keep me and to soothe me. (Afraid I would sue, I presume)
By LeeLee
March 24, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
Such a waste. I don’t like Good Samaritan anyhow. I will probably go to Kettering now. Too much conglomeration going on. Another empty buiilding to stare us in the face. When will the city stop getting the shaft?
By Previous employee
March 24, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this
Ever since I worked at, and quit GSH, I have promised myself and my family that from now on, we are going to Grandview. At least the workers at Grandview act like they care. We had a wonderful experience when my Grandma needed hospital care last year. GSH only cares about the bottom line. The people I’ve worked with at GSH only care about the paycheck. Don’t get me wrong, there are great workers at GSH, but they are few and far between, and horribly overworked. Go Grandview!!!
By T Q McCabe
March 24, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this
This will be a decline from a first rate facility to just aother production line factory.
I can hardly wait to see the parasites come into my room, line up along the wall while someone who claims to be a doctor rattles off their names at supersonic speed. While this is going on they will stand there switching their thumbs and then file out to charge a consultation fee.
People in this country can’t afford medical care and these leaches have no qualms about running up medical costs.
By mike
March 24, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this
The Dayton Heart Hospital is NOT leaving the area, it is simply moving 3 miles down the road. The building will not be wasted but probably will house another medical center to better serve the community. Plus the non-profit foundation being set up, as well. By moving to and being bought by Good Sam shows that in the future, Good Sam and Dayton Heart will surpass MVH as the premier hospital of the area.
By Cindy
March 24, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
We have always used Dayton Heart, but now if they are leaving the area, we will be using the new heart hospital at Kettering. What a waste of a building to become another eyesore. I remember when we couldn’t use MVH because they wouldn’t take Anthem. Is this going to happen again? So sorry to see DHH go.
By K. Rizer
March 24, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this
What a waste of resources, again, in this community. So a new building, or part of a building, is being constructed at Good Sam North. What will happen to the Heart Hospital building? Another one to be empty??
By cheryl
March 24, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this
How much more will Premier take over? Although they said Dayton Heart is being purchased by Good Samaritan Hospital - it is really Premier (MIami Valley Hospital) that is purchasing it. Why don’t they just close all the hospitals, other then the ones owned by Premier and make this a free clinic area? Why, because the Valley is in it for the money and now the care!
By cheryl
March 24, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this
How much more will Premier take over? Although they said Dayton Heart is being purchased by Good Samaritan Hospital - it is really Premier (MIami Valley Hospital) that is purchasing it. Why don’t they just close all the hospitals, other then the ones owned by Premier and make this a free clinic area? Why, because the Valley is in it for the money and now the care!
By cheryl
March 24, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this
How much more will Premier take over? Although they said Dayton Heart is being purchased by Good Samaritan Hospital - it is really Premier (MIami Valley Hospital) that is purchasing it. Why don’t they just close all the hospitals, other then the ones owned by Premier and make this a free clinic area? Why, because the Valley is in it for the money and now the care!
By cheryl
March 24, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this
How much more will Premier take over? Although they said Dayton Heart is being purchased by Good Samaritan Hospital - it is really Premier (MIami Valley Hospital) that is purchasing it. Why don’t they just close all the hospitals, other then the ones owned by Premier and make this a free clinic area? Why, because the Valley is in it for the money and now the care!