By Squirrellygirl

May 17, 2011 12:58 PM | Link to this

Obama is in full campaign mode. Now I hear he is switching on drilling here, but he’s doing it with a bunch of “if” and limitations. He knows he is coming up short on this point, so he thinks his appearance of switching on this will make him a better contender for President. He gave the order for the Seals to kill bin Laden. So Obama now has 2 things that he has made good decisions on. But…there’s still that pesky economy, and all of the unemployed who can’t find jobs because those jobs are in Mexico or China now. Thanks, Obama. We will make sure everyone knows whose fault it is we don’t have jobs but you spent all that stimulus money on basketweaving festivals and studies of dating habits of female college co-ed students. Nice. Narcissistic much? Has Obama even mentioned Japan since their earthquakes/tsunami?

By Squirrellygirl

May 11, 2011 11:25 AM | Link to this

One more thing, Vick. You said I made a comment about Jack? If I remember correctly, Jack’s views are similar to mine. So if you had a questionable comment about Jack, then I’m guessing a poser wrote the comment. And Obama’s anatomy? Are you talking about his big ears? I don’t think I mentioned those. So I’m guessing that was a poser trying to discredit me. Anyway, we’ll never know now. Had it been a poser, and you would have posted it like you do other’s comments, then I would have reported it as being obscene and you could have removed it then. But now we’ll never know… Isn’t it nice to know that we have VICK to protect us from information? Isn’t that nice of Vick to protect us? We’re adults, but Vick knows better for us…sounds like socialism to me!

By Squirrellygirl

May 11, 2011 11:20 AM | Link to this

Vick only publishes your comments if he agrees with them. That’s sloppy, Vick. Unamerican. You will publish negative comments about anyone you don’t like, how about you publish all comments and let us make our own decisions? No? This discredits your views. You apparently only have an open mind when it comforts your own cozy viewpoints. I have now forgotten what my comments were. I’ve seen plenty of slams against me, and you seem to have no problem publishing that crap…I guess you are one of those opportunistic chaps like the ones who rewrote our history books to make them look like our forefathers hated God and loved Socialism, huh? You know I’m right, Vick!

By Mark from St Paul

May 6, 2011 4:49 PM | Link to this

Raoul, thanks for reminding me why it’s so hard for us to get along. Until the Navy rejected me for my eyesight, I was planning on being a USN lifer. Like most lefties, I’m incredibly supportive of our troops. Their preening generals and admirals? Not so much. Like many Republicans, you seem to confuse supporting our troops with supporting deficit-creating military budgets designed to make contractors rich while our military families live on food stamps. I read a lot of lefty blogs every day, and I only know of a handful that were critical of the Osama offing (they thought he should have been dragged back in chains for trial instead). Not one lefty blog I know of is supportive of Osama, or critical of our military personnel, war criminals excepted (and I define war criminal like the Nuremberg judges did, and not like Fox News claims lefties define the term). My other take on your comment is that you obviously believe that anyone who doesn’t support EVERY WAR AND MILITARY ACTION is somehow unAmerican. I think you need to reread the rules for being an American, the right to take exception to government actions being rule #1. But all that aside, do you think Osama was worth the ONE TRILLION DOLLARS Bush and Obama have spent on Iraq and Afghanistan? I think we could have put a billion dollar price on his head and we would have had it within months of 9/11. Or am I being unpatriotic again to wonder happened to all that money?

By Raoul

May 5, 2011 6:45 PM | Link to this

Well, I’m just glad that for the time being the folks on the left like our military boys again. Welcome back to America, and this time stick around for a while. The Obama administration clearly wants to avoid all talk of waterboarding, and cannot seem to tell us what really happened in Pakistan.Here’s my take on water-boarding: I hate it! However, I hate terrorists even more, so get out the towels and turn on the water. It ain’t about values in a war without rules. It’s about common sense. You would think progressives would progress beyond tired old notions of the Geneva convention rules, which were written when nations fought against each other. I hear they are celebrating UBL’s death in Iraq. It’s been said before: everything changed after 9/11.

By Irishguy

May 4, 2011 9:44 PM | Link to this

Oh Please Vick, that’s exactly what I thought what I read your post about Mr Rumsfeld. It’s so unlike you to use sarcasm ;-)

By Mark from St Paul

May 4, 2011 2:58 PM | Link to this

Sorry to factcheck you Vick, but Rummy’s already done a 180° on that one (not hard to do when truth telling is never high on your “to do” list). Since Osama got offed the former Bush intelligence community has expended more effort giving waterboarding the credit than they ever put into actually getting Osama (and the documentation on that is MASSIVE). Catching Osama ended the rationale for war, as Obama’s quickly finding out (even Republican House members are asking why we don’t leave Afghanistan now). There may have been some leads generated by waterboarding, but the perp credited with most of them also sent us on several hundred wild goose chases and never once coughed up the name of the courier they tracked back to the compound. A compound, btw, without air conditioning or other basic amenities — that million dollar price tag was for the security).

By vick

May 4, 2011 11:36 AM | Link to this

Gee whiz, Irish, I’m stunned. Donald Rumsfeld (loyal Republican) says that waterboarding was not responsible. Leon Panetta (loyal Democrat) creates the impression that perhaps it was used. So you go with Panetta because that’s what you want to believe. I’m stunned, Irish…

By Irishguy

May 4, 2011 11:16 AM | Link to this

Looks like Leon Panetta, when pressed by Brian Williams, would not dismiss waterboarding as a method to get the Intel that led to Osamsa death. Or, I’ll see your Rumsfeld and raise you a Panetta. ;-)

By Irishguy

May 3, 2011 10:55 PM | Link to this

Vick, hate to burst your bubble, but Peter King, chair of the House Committee on Homeland Security, said the water boarding of KSM revealed the nickname of the courier that eventually led to OBL’s demise. As I understand it the 183 refers to “pours” of water, not individual sessions. TIA, are you really comparing those who water boarded terrorists to murdering Nazis, or worse yet, Commies?!! I’m pretty sure all the Gulag and Concentration Camp inmates would have taken water boarding over the treatment they rec’d. If any detainees died of water boarding, I didn’t hear about it. Most waterboarding sessions had a doctor in attendance. It’s safe enough that WE DO IT TO OUR OWN GUYS in training!! I’ve never heard anyone crying over that, not even the pilots that undergo it.

By vick

May 3, 2011 2:38 PM | Link to this

Well guys, I hate to burst your bubbles but according to Donald Rumsfeld, waterboarding had nothing to do with the locating of Osama bin Laden. Here’s more from Talk Radio News: “Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is claiming the information that tipped the U.S. off to terrorist leader Osama bin Laden’s location was not collected through the controversial enhanced interrogation technique known as waterboarding. “It is true that some information that came from normal interrogation approaches at Guantanamo did lead to information that was beneficial in this instance,” Rumsfeld said during an interview with the conservative magazine Newsmax. “But it was not harsh treatment and it was not waterboarding.” Bin Laden’s location was reportedly revealed by tracking the terrorist leader’s top courier, whose identity was revealed by al Qaeda official Khald Sheik Mohammed. Rumsfeld’s statements counters speculation from number of conservative commentators and lawmakers that Mohammed may have revealed the identity following the enhanced interrogation technique, a development that many claimed would justify the use of the controversial method. Others have also cast doubt on the role waterboarding may have played in the investigation. When asked during an interview on MSNBC Tuesday morning if waterboarding directly lead to bin Laden, Obama’s top counterterrorism advisor John Brennan responded “not to my knowledge.” In addition, an Associated Press story that cites former CIA officials attributes the bin Laden information to standard interrogation perfrormed months after Mohammed was subjected to the technique. Mohammed, a Guantanamo Bay detainee, was reportedly waterboarded 183 times.”

By vick

May 3, 2011 1:59 PM | Link to this

Squirrelly Girl, today is May 3. I have been in the recording studio since early this morning. This is the first time I have been able to moderate comments today. And I’m afraid that you are veering onto some shaky turf. Referring to our president’s anatomy was in poor taste. As for your comment about Jack? I had no clue what were you talking about in that one…so I did not publish it-thank you.

By Squirrellygirl

May 3, 2011 1:50 PM | Link to this

I don’t see any comments posted from 3 May on. I know I posted some…hmmm?

By truth in advertising

May 3, 2011 1:21 PM | Link to this

Waterboarding is neither safe nor legal. It’s torture pure and simple. The authorities who utilize this procedure are no better than the Nazis, Stalin’s thugs, or Mao’s minions. The info on the couriers was obtained over time with traditional interview techniques. To call something legal that we have signed international treaties agreeing not to do is giving John Yoo way too much credit. He is as bad a war criminal as his buddies Bush and Cheney. Just because we are the biggest bully does not make us legal, just bullies.

By Wendell Ray

May 3, 2011 11:03 AM | Link to this

911-MAYDAY-AMBUSH-OVER! 3 Cheers for our troops and all civilian intel and logistical support services that made this a reality. Now if we can only find the terrorists who derailed our education system. Hang in there teachers, we hear choppers coming’!

By Squirrellygirl

May 3, 2011 9:48 AM | Link to this

I am glad our military was able to get Osama. However, it doesn’t change how I feel about President Obama. He still needs to answer for the way he has manipulated our laws to get his redistribution of wealth bills passed. And the way he has polarized this nation. And for sending billions of dollars to Brazil for drilling there. And for sending jobs to Mexico and China that we needed here in the states. And for not securing our borders so that there are wars on American land with ranchers being murdered and people getting their heads chopped off by drug cartel and terrorists slipping through our southern borders. And for spending money and adding 4 trillion dollars to our deficit. And for ignoring the majority of Americans who don’t want to fund tax payer funded abortions via his hc bill. And for making the hc bill mandatory which is unconstitutional. And for going to war in a 3rd country on the marching orders of the UN without getting congressional approval that was required by our laws. I could go on, but my fingers are tired.

By Irishguy

May 3, 2011 7:51 AM | Link to this

Half of this blog’s contributors cheering Osama’s demise, would be crying if he was captured alive and water-boarded. WTH?

By Raoul

May 2, 2011 5:27 PM | Link to this

I salute Obama for this accomplishment, and the Seals for doing what they do. I hope this is a turning point.

By Irishguy

May 2, 2011 5:04 PM | Link to this

According to the AP, via the Washington Post, it would appear the safe and legal water boarding of KSM gave us the nick name of the courier that eventually led to OBL’s demise. Don’t imagine that news will change anyone’s opinion of that discontinued practice. I’m just glad we had it long enough to get a lot of valuable Intel.

By Blowfly

May 2, 2011 4:00 PM | Link to this

Actually, the US has been trying to kill bin Laden since the early 90s. This operation appears to have been nearly flawless and Obama deserves as much credit as Bush would have gotten had this happened when he was president. Don’t read too much into the information we are getting, because if history means anything we are only getting part of the truth and then some extras. The truth will turn out to be far more complicated. Also, most of the posts to this thread are embarrassing.

By bill

May 2, 2011 3:36 PM | Link to this

‘Enhanced interrogation techniques’ caused a high value person to give up the name of Bin Laden’s courier back in 2004.. so waterboarding evidently does work, huh Vick?

By Irishguy

May 2, 2011 1:59 PM | Link to this

C’mon Mark, you can say it: USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA!!!!!!

By Mark from St Paul

May 2, 2011 1:31 PM | Link to this

With some notable exceptions, this comment thread is like a raw slice of talk radio. It must be nice to live life with the covers pulled up over your head. Bush told the American public he didn’t care about catching bin Laden, and he disbanded the military group that was tasked with finding him. Yes, the military took out bin Laden, but on Obama’s orders, orders that reversed Bush-Cheney policy. Righties don’t have to like Obama, but if they take patriotism seriously, they really shouldn’t lie about these things. Now, let’s bring ALL our troops home and let’s keep them home.

By mojo

May 2, 2011 12:51 PM | Link to this

Imagine the freakish reaction and demigod/Godlike status and these haters would have bought into had this happened under the GWB administration. BUT IT DIDN’T, it happened on PRESIDENT OBAMA’s watch and you should all be praising the day and rejoicing that justice has been done. This is a proud time for our great nation, those who use it to and hurl insults and rant and scream that it didn’t happen, you are the most UNAMERICAN among us. God bless the USA and all of the families affected by this tragedy, and I pray this gives them a bit of comfort and peace.

By SHY

May 2, 2011 12:32 PM | Link to this

I love the fact that people can’t give credit where it due! A plan has to come from somewhere, and without a leader, it couldn’t be carried out……THANK YOU, first & foremost OBAMA….also to the SEALS….

By Retired sgt

May 2, 2011 12:22 PM | Link to this

BO did not kill Bin laden, the SEALS did. Let’s give credit where itnis due. GWB should be credited with reconstructing a deconstructed Central intelligence Agency that made possible the intelligence gathered, the Seals and the rest of the brave men and women of the, greatest fighting force in the world, and BO for giving the trigger order form the Seals. It is a team effort. Any one person saying they ar re solely responsible for the kill is ldelusional…

By Yes he did!

May 2, 2011 12:19 PM | Link to this

W dropped the ball on bin Laden. Yes, it was the Navy Seals who did the actual raid, but Obama’s leadership caused it to happen. He authorized aggressive measures to pursue bin Laden and he approved the raid. You haters can’t handle the truth.

By Stand up and cheer

May 2, 2011 12:14 PM | Link to this

Big week for the President…first he took down the crazy birthers then bin Laden. Achievements the right wingers couldn’t accomplish

By Sassy

May 2, 2011 12:07 PM | Link to this

Deny all you want…HATERS, President Obama was on point! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZDSJN7mVPo&feature=share

By Czarsux

May 2, 2011 12:02 PM | Link to this

Czar of Jack….Did you eat paint chips as a child? I see you’re putting your 5th grade education to good use.

By red

May 2, 2011 11:50 AM | Link to this

‘Wake up right wingers, Obama is the most successful president since Roosevelt’-anyone who says that, must work for Acorn.

By Czar-of-Jack

May 2, 2011 11:46 AM | Link to this

Poor Jack. He still kaint reed. And, more importantly, Obama gets the credit for killing Bin Laden. I am on the ground laughing at you right wing nuts who refuse to acknowledge the huge risk that Obama took in ordering this operation. Perhaps you all have forgotten Carter’s decision to proceed with Desert One which only managed to kill American troops as well as his administration. Even Cheney had the balls to give Obama credit for such a courageous and successful decision. Wake up right wingers, Obama is the most successful president since Roosevelt. And Jack still kaint spell condom.

By Conspiracy time...

May 2, 2011 11:30 AM | Link to this

Let the conspiracy theorists rejoice! Bin Laden is killed by an elite SEAL unit, acting on information not shared with anyone except those involved - and the body has already been “buried at sea”, with no one outside the military having seen it… Who did they REALLY kill ?

By Waterboard Madoff

May 2, 2011 11:30 AM | Link to this

Bin Laden Obituary Headline: Hide and Seek World Champion and Mass Murder Loses title to Navy Seals and US Intelligence. Subtitle: Pakistani Government shocked that he was hiding in Pakistan.

By Slobber all over yer butt

May 2, 2011 11:25 AM | Link to this

Usama Bin Laden was nailed due to the initial and ongoing work by CIA and US Military counterintelligence. Obama just happened to be in office when it came together. Listen to all the experts that is their accessment.

By He got what ?

May 2, 2011 11:20 AM | Link to this

Obama got Osama? Obama ‘ordered’ the strike ? I think the answer to both is a resounding ‘NO’. The Navy SEALS carried out a mission, resulting from countless hours of hard & dangerous work by various military & intelligence personnel. Mr. Obama was undoubtedly notified of the operation - and may have said ‘OK, go ahead’ - but the only active part he had was taking credit for it.

By Eric

May 2, 2011 11:12 AM | Link to this

What crapola.Had to do something to avert Trump for a day.Fake kill!!!!!

By ohiodale

May 2, 2011 11:10 AM | Link to this

@Cat Slobber - I guess you didn’t hear that the inital intelligence that captured UBL came from a Gitmo detainee through water boarding. I would say the military captured Bin Laden and it has nothing to do with Obama. I do give Obama credit for not pulling out of Afhganistan like the liberals tried to force him to do.

By Wake up

May 2, 2011 11:09 AM | Link to this

The military did it,dah,grow a brain.BO could not manage to kill a roach.

By Obama crap

May 2, 2011 11:07 AM | Link to this

Give the credit to the military, freak!

By Irishguy

May 2, 2011 11:06 AM | Link to this

Best news I’ve heard in a long time. 1st speech of Mr Obama’s I’ve enjoyed. To paraphrase Michelle O, for the third time in my life I’m proud of my President, Mr Obama.

By BO is war hawk

May 2, 2011 11:04 AM | Link to this

Bull. Obama loves war!

By Ed

May 2, 2011 11:03 AM | Link to this

Bull.So much for leaving the middle east.Obama lied.

By Ex dem

May 2, 2011 11:01 AM | Link to this

I voted for Obama to stay out of the middle east and bring home the troops.I will never vote Dem again, the party of war hawks.

By parental

May 2, 2011 11:00 AM | Link to this

WHAT? Obama took time from golf to go get bin Laden? No he didn’t! The US military got bin Laden. Obama got nobody. He’ll take credit though and Vick will gladly give it to him.

By Ex dem

May 2, 2011 11:00 AM | Link to this

I voted for Obama to stay out of the middle east and bring home the troops.I will never vote Dem again, the party of war hawks.

By taxpayer

May 2, 2011 10:54 AM | Link to this

Omama gets Osama……Don’t hand me that…… Obama inherited that from BUSH

By Cat Slobber

May 2, 2011 10:54 AM | Link to this

So Obama accomplished in 2 years what the DUHbya couldn’t in 6 years. LOL

By Vickhead

May 2, 2011 10:36 AM | Link to this

Mission accomplished? Hardly. Think now Vick, are you even aware of the irony of that statement?