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It’s time for Bruce, Phillips

The view from the new Nationals Stadium press box is so high it seems as if we’re looking down on the Washington Monument. The Capitol Building dome is easily seen beyond left field from up here — as is Virginia, Maryland and parts of Kansas.

As the Reds open a three-game series tonight, it is the dawn of a new era in Cincinnati Reds baseball, or as manager Dusty Baker called it, “End of the Ken Griffey Jr. Era and the start of the post-Ken Griffey Jr. Era.

“He was one of the finest guys I’ve ever been around, one of the finest superstars I’ve been around,” said Baker. “It’ll be different without him, but it is an opportunity for him — he sure picked up a bunch of games in the standings (with the Chicago White Sox) and creates opportunity for somebody else here.”

Before he got into the future, Baker planned a pre-game clubhouse meeting to talk to the team about the Griffey trade, to let them know how it came down and the ramifications.

As for opportunity for other players, one right now Is Jay Bruce.

To start the post-Griffey era, Baker has installed Jay Bruce into Griffey’s No. 3 spot in the batting order and Griffey’s spot in right field. The No. 3 spot fits him like an old chewed-up slipper, but right field is more like a catcher’s mitt.

Is this for the long haul?

“I don’t know,” said Baker. “We still have to win ballgames. I’m going to give him time. We’ll see. I talked to him about hitting third, about what I required a third hitter to do. Without taking away his aggressiveness, I’d like him to be a little more selective at the plate. Pick his pitch.

“He has batted third most of his life and now we’ll see,” Baker added. “We want the guys in the three, four, five spots to drive in runs as well as score runs. Cut down on the strikeouts. We talked about the more accomplished hitters he could be become — like Carlos Lee to drive in runs and just an outstanding hitter like Lance Berkman.”

Bruce said he is ready, willing and hopes he is able.

“I’ve hit two games No. 3 in the big leagues, but no matter what, it is where I’m used to hitting,” said Bruce. “With Ken here, there was no question who was hitting third and I don’t make out the lineup. I’m just ready to play every day. I will say, I’m used to it and that’s where I’ve hit.

“Leading off was certainly a little different for me,” Bruce added. “I made the best of it, but hopefully this will let me get a little more comfortable and back to normal. Dusty told me I need to focus on quality at-bats and swinging at good pitches. Sometimes I don’t give myself a chance and it’ll come with experience.

“I’m ready for everything that’s coming,” Bruce added. “It is going to be different now that Ken’s gone. It’s a new era. He was the franchise since 2000 and now he’s gone and we’re starting a new time with the Reds. And I’m ready for that.”

What Bruce doesn’t prefer is his switch from center field to right field and said, “I’m more comfortable in center than right, but the plan from the beginning was for me to play right and I welcome that.”

Now that Griffey is gone, who becomes The Face of the Reds? Brandon Phillips said some day he would like to be the face of the Reds and, in fact, said he would like to be what Barry Larkin once was, “The captain. Wear that ‘C’ he wore. But I think they lost that particular ‘C’, ” Phillips said with a laugh.

As for the Face of the Reds, Phillips said that’s up to the organization who they promote, who they push, who they put on billboards, who they put on the cover of the Rolling Stone.

“And you guys, the media, have a lot to do with it,” he said. “You come up with Bruce Almighty and that catches on for Jay Bruce. Whatever you want and whatever the organization wants.

“But I think it is about time for me to step up and fill those shoes that Griffey left, do even better than I’ve done,” Phillips added. “With Griffey gone, it is time for the team to step up and do what we have to do. I’m sad he’s gone. He helped me, made me what I am. Before he left, he told me, ‘Be yourself.’ And that’s what I’m going to do.”

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By Matt

August 2, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

George and Chris mentioned on the broadcast last night that Hairston had to come back a day or two before he and the Reds had planned. The reason for this is because of the Griffey trade. The Reds presumably needed another outfielder. He better be careful though. You don’t want to mess around with hamstring injuries. Those aren’t pretty.

By Coach

August 2, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

I stand corrected, Alan. Thanks—I must have had mine off.

By Alan

August 2, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

Coach, I’m not sure which announcers you were listening to, but Jeff Brantley commented on Hairston’s running and Marty and he talked about it for a bit. I turn the sound down on the TV and listen to the radio and I was in the room but wasnt looking at the TV when Jeff mentioned his running. I stopped what I was doing and made a point to look at the TV to see what he was talking about. So HOF Marty and Jeff got it and you are, in fact, the one who missed it.

By Mike-Cinci

August 2, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

Grande and Welsh mentioned the Hairston hamstring on TV and showed replays of him running “gingerly” in CF. Marty does miss quite a bit on the radio. The trouble is we don’t know what he misses or misidentifies because we don’t see it. Hairston may not be totally healed.

By Coach

August 2, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

Sorry Gary you are probably keeping too late of hours…Just one blogger admiring another’s input. After the previous crap on here, I can understand you thinking something like that. Just a friendly salute,sir—what a concept, huh?

By Frank R

August 2, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

Coach, I was wondering about Hairston’s hamstring too when he was slow to back up Bruce on the 8th inning triple. He basically gave up running before it hit the wall in right.

By MAC

August 2, 2008 6:14 AM | Link to this

Mr. B covered the 3 hole well IMO. Phillips fits that description best for the Reds right now IMO. Funny, 2/3rds of the season is over and we’re still discussing the batting order; that says a lot about the Reds problems doesn’t it? Of course, the Reds still have NO LO hitter and that affects every other hitter on the team. Case in point, if Harriston is hurt again, I would hit Bruce or Kepp in the LO spot, but I’m sure CP will be thrust into that spot instead and Bruce will stay in the all important 3 hole? I thought they still wanted to win games? WOW, things have really digressed for the Reds this year haven’t they; what a complete mess and disapointing season.

By Gary Maloy Jr

August 2, 2008 4:15 AM | Link to this

Seems to me that ‘Coach’ is ‘Mr.Baseball“‘s alter ego. I may be wrong - and probably am, but it isn’t beyond the realm of possibility that this fellow is buttering his own bread… Or maybe they really ARE two people. Man and Wife? Brothers? Best friends?

By Coach

August 1, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this

I forgot to mention: Hairston looked like he tweaked the hamstring again tonight running to first base late in the game.He quickly grab it, then slowed down. As usual HOF Marty missed it and no one commented on it. Wonder if he’ll be in the lineup tomorrow? Sorry to clog the blog tonight.

By Coach

August 1, 2008 11:32 PM | Link to this

It seems Homer has no movement on most of his pitches; although early in his performance he threw a great breaking ball that broke down sharply—but I never saw another like that. Wonder why? {Brantley says he is trying to learn how to throw three pitches—in the major leagues? Man. I’m wondering how he got so much admiration—and who thought he was a “can’t miss”?}Everything after that, seemed straight;and it seemed that when he tried to throw, what I think were attempts at breaking pitches—his release point was off. Any pitchers out there who can confirm this? In addition,I’d really like to see Affeldt get another chance to start. He has great stuff—much better than Homer, in my opinion.I wonder if anyone agrees.

By Mike-Cinci

August 1, 2008 11:23 PM | Link to this

Good answer by Mr. Baseball. Other good #3 hitters are: Derrick Lee, Matt Holliday, Utley, David Wright, Joe Mauer, Alex Rios, Teixiera, Abreu. Not quite as good as the top 5 but still pretty good. Joe Morgan was the #3 hitter for the Big Red Machine and he had all the qualities Mr. Baseball mentioned.

By Coach

August 1, 2008 11:04 PM | Link to this

Terrific coverage of my question Mr. baseball. Thanks. I’m sure more than I will learn from your excellent response.

By Mr. Baseball

August 1, 2008 10:12 PM | Link to this

Oops, Mr. baseball forgot Carlos Quentin. He should be high on the AL list of #3 hitters. By the way, good #3 hitters seem to more plentiful in the National League, probably because there is no DH. It places more of a premium on getting rallies started after the dead spot of the #9 hole.

By rob

August 1, 2008 10:02 PM | Link to this

I’m fine with Phillips as the face of the franchise. He plays hard, has some moxie and isn’t afraid to speak up. Now if he would just tone down the hot dog act a little….

By Mr. Baseball

August 1, 2008 9:11 PM | Link to this

Thanks for the question, Coach. The ideal #3 hitter should have several qualities. First, he should be the best pure hitter on the team. He should hit for a high average, hit for power, and drive in runs. If he does these things well, he’ll also score a lot of runs as a by-product. He should be a good two-out hitter and a good hitter with runners in scoring position. He should also be a good situational hitter, ready to drive in a run from second base with a single, from third with a sac fly, or hit a three run home run as needed. With two outs and nobody on, he has to get an extra base hit to get into scoring position. Finally, he should not strike out too much. The #3 hitter is the player opposing pitchers fear most and the player that all his teammates want at the plate when the game is on the line. Also, at least 20% of hitting is based on other hitters in the lineup. So a good #3 hitter usually has a thumper batting behind him, forcing the pitcher to pitch to him. Having said this, one of the best #3 hitters was Ken Griffey, Jr. in his prime. Jay Bruce does not qualify (yet). With that said, here’s my top 5 #3 hitters by league. National League: Albert Pujols, Lance Berkman, Chipper Jones, Ryan Braun, & Matt Holliday. In the American League: Josh Hamilton, Manny Ramirez/David Ortiz, Alex Rodriguez, Raul Ibanez, and David DeJesus. Note that Mr. Baseball lists the tandem Ramirez/Ortiz (when they were with the Red Sox) together because they’re almost interchangeable. Also, Rodriquez bats fourth in the Yankees lineup, but is equally well-suited as a #3 hitter. One more point, at various times this season, three NL central teams (Milwaukee, St. Louis, and Chicago Cubs) have batted a speedy position player in the ninth spot (like a second leadoff hitter) in order to take advantage of excellent #3 hitters (Braun, Pujols, and Lee), trying to create more RBI opportunities but without dropping them to #4 in the order. Wouldn’t it be nice if the Reds were good enough next year to bat Jerry Hairston ninth? Reds fans can only dream ….

By Matt

August 1, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this

Let me be the first to say that I think the whole “Griffey batting 3rd is bad” deal should have died when he got traded. It’s high time to let it go.

By Brian

August 1, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this

I love that statement that when Griffey was here there was no doubt who was batting third. Well, he isn’t batting third for the Sox. He shouldn’t have been for the Reds this year either but Dusty let him out of respect…That’s sad and it hurt the team. Either Griffey ran the clubhouse or Baker has no sense.

By Matt

August 1, 2008 8:18 PM | Link to this

Old Homer “Batting Practice” Bailey is at it again. When is he going to learn to be a pitcher, instead of a thrower? Terrible.

By Steve M.

August 1, 2008 7:04 PM | Link to this

Hal, I know you don’t respond directly to people who comment on your blog - a very wise idea - but I was wondering if you could elaborate on your post from yesterday about the role that ownership played in the trade. You are really out there by yourself on reporting that the Reds initiated the trade because of Junior’s recent behavior, among other reasons. I tend to believe what you wrote, but I find it curious that every other single piece written on it says the White Sox initiated this and none discuss the Castellini angle. Thanks for your hard work, I appreciate it.

By Matt

August 1, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this

It is time for the mantle of leadership to be passed to Adam Dunn and Brandon Phillips. More Phillips than Dunn I think, because Phillips has been more outspoken in his desire to become this team’s leader. This series against the Nationals should be the easiest three wins (since the 3 game sweep of the Nats at GABP) of the year. This team needs to unite, and stand together and make it happen. This season is not over yet, and while the playoffs won’t happen, we still have a shot at an above-.500 year. So go get ‘em Reds. And go get ‘em Junior. Go get those Royals!

By Coach

August 1, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this

I’d be interested to hear what Mr. Baseball and others think on this:Who do you think are the best Major league # 3 hitters and why? What makes them so?

By bigdoc

August 1, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this

thanks for the good info, Hal! I think Bruce has earned CF more than he’s earned #3 in the order. Makes sense you protect Hairston’s hamstring better in RF than center. Love Bruce’s attitude—he’s so young! One thing improves immediately—team speed.
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