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Mistakes, mistakes and more mistakes

Elimination Day was inevitable, a foregone conclusion for the Cincinnati Reds, and it came on a hot steamy September 3 night in Great American Ball Park.

A 6-5 loss to the Pittsburgh Pirates officially eliminated the Reds from the National League Central title race, but unofficially they eliminated themselves in early May when they first hit double figures in the games behind column.

Of more immediate significance, Edinson Volquez did not get his 17th win, turning over a 4-4 tie after seven. But Jeremy Affeldt and Mike Lincoln gave up two runs in the eighth to leave Volquez at 16-5.

Manager Dusty Baker was mightily disturbed after the game over a missed hit-and-run sign that ended up in a double play and a wild pick-off throw that led to a tie-breaking run.

“Mistakes, man. We just have to quit making mistakes,” he said. “You especially can’t make ‘em in one-run games.”

Volquez pitched well enough to be 17-5, but it wasn’t to be after he gave up four runs, six hits, one intentional walk and struck out a career-best 13.

Volquez was at his Eliot Ness best for three innings — untouchable (nine up, nine down). He needed only 35 pitches for those three innings.

Then he singled in the bottom of the third and ran the bases and, as he said, “That’s never usually a good thing for me.”

The economy and efficiency evaporated in the fourth when he needed 27 pitches for that one inning, giving up two runs on three doubles.

The Reds tied it in the fourth with two runs, all the action coming with two outs and nobody on. Joey Votto homered, then Edwin Encarnacion walked, took third on Jay Bruce’s double and scored on a passed ball.

Chris Dickerson’s sixth home run in his 19th major-league game with two outs in the fifth gave the Reds a 3-2 lead. It was a 425-foot drive the opposite way, to left center, and Baker said, “

Pittsburgh retrieved the lead, 4-3, in the sixth when the first four reached base, including run-scoring singles by Ryan Doumit and Adam LaRoche, ending LaRoche’s 0 for 16 slide.

The Reds tied it, 4-4, in the sixth when Votto tripled to the right field corner and scored on Encarnacion’s single over third base.

Affeldt replaced Volquez in the eighth and the Reds resumed their sloppy ways.

Nate McLoth singled and then came the errant pick-off throw. Affeldt’s attempt eluded first baseman Votto and Baker said, “That ball was just air mailed (with not enough postage, obviously).” McLoth ended up on third and scored on another Adam LaRoche single.

“Mike Lincoln made two great pitches on LaRoche, then hung a slider,” said Baker. “Another mistake.”

Andy LaRoche then poked a one-out single for the 6-4 margin.

The Reds scored once in the eighth on pinch-hitter Ryan Hanigan’s bases loaded walk, cutting it to 6-5, but pinch-hitter Andy Phillips struck out.

And there were two incidents in the seventh — a positive one for the Reds and a negative one.

Pinch-hitter Wilkin Castillo led the inning with a single. With one out, the hit-and-run sign was flashed. Castillo missed it and Jeff Keppinger hit into a 4-6-3 double play.

“Young guys coming up (Castillo) have to learn and get the signs,” said Baker. “We were happy for him getting his first major-league hit, but then he missed the hit-and-run sign.

“Keppinger hit that ball right where he was supposed to, right at the second baseman,” said Baker.

But Castillo wasn’t running on the pitch, so the second baseman didn’t rush to cover second. Instead he fielded Keppinger’s ball and started the inning-ending double play, “When we should have had first and third with one out. That was big.”

As ever, Volquez was smiling and upbeat after the game, claiming that 20 victories was not on his mind.

“If I win two of the next five or if I get 18 or 19 wins, I’ll be happy,” hew said. “This is my first year and that’s pretty good. That would be great.”

Volquez said he was ready to go back out for the eighth inning, when the Pirates scored their two winning runs off Affeldt and Lincoln, but they stopped him.

“I was ready and I was feeling good, but I had 117 pitches and they said that was enough,” said Volquez.

“He had 107 after six and normally that would have been enough,” said Baker. “But we let him go out for the seventh to give him a chance to win his 17th.”

And, yes, the Pirates came to town with a 10-game losing streak before decking the Reds two nights in a row.

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By Matt

September 4, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

Actually, CP didn’t volunteer for Triple A. Unless of course, Dusty Baker and Corey Patterson were lying when they were quoted as saying that. I’m sure some on this blog would have you to believe that, but I don’t. I never said that going to Triple A has improved Patterson, I just simply made the point that he was sent down there earlier in the year.

By HuberTucky

September 4, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

But Mr. B, the words “absurd” and “Reds” have such a nice ring together, dontcha think? If it’s just too absurd for ya, why do you btoher?

By Mr. Redlegs (Original)

September 4, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

Bah, it’s all just something new to b***h about today. With Krivsky, Griffey and Dunn gone, it’s now down to Baker picking on the poor, innocent rookie. Gets more absurd by the day.

By michael

September 4, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

bearfat can, I can not make excuses for a rookie “Major Leaguer”, but I think the competition is a little better at the major league level, and it takes adjustment.

By Mr. Redlegs (Original)

September 4, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

Hey Hal, someone heard your cries about lost baggage and shoddy airline service: http://travel.msn.com/Guides/article.aspx?cp-documentid=608320&GT1=41000

By HuberTucky

September 4, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

I promised my wife I would change. I did. I got worse.

By Bearcat Fan

September 4, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

I wonder why a rookie should ever make a mental mistake just because it is his first year in the majors. Most rookies have been playing baseball since they were 8 years old and by now should understand how to pick up signs from coaches.

By KR

September 4, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

Boys, boys, boys. We’ev all heard the rumors. Corey is or will be Dustys son-in law. Who can blame him, he’s a father-in-laws dream. First you want someone who can support your daughter. Dusty’s seen to that, whos more overpaid than Corey? 2nd you certainly don’t want someone who would be abusive. Even if Corey tried to hit his wife, he’d take three swings, miss, and go take his seat in the bedroom. Last, if he did get to first base with another woman he’d get caught trying to get to second. You gotta love him.

By Jamestown Joe

September 4, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

Steven Ross wrote: Matt wrote:Of course there was a trip to Triple A for CP earlier in the year. Just throwing that out there. Correct me if wrong, but CP volunteered for Triple A duty. Obviously, time well spent working on hitting and baserunning. I think you are wrong. I read that it was falsely reported that CP volunteered for Triple A.

By Mike-Cinci

September 4, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

The current team can’t beat the Pirates or Nationals which says the Reds need to improve things. I’m worried next year’s team will look like this: Votto, Phillips, Gonzalez, Encarnacion, Dickerson, Freel,Bruce,Hannigan.This lineup will finish 6th in the NL Central. Who can they get to replace some of these guys? How will they ever get them? Where will they come from? Who will want the stiffs the Reds don’t want? This is not a pretty sight.

By Bob

September 4, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

To Steven Ross, I like the “Mendoza Twins.” I agree wholeheartedly. Dusty is a joke as manager. CP has the least potential at the plate as anyone I ever saw. Bako has less, if that makes any sense. If Hanigan is anywhere on the charts for ‘09, he SHOULD play everyday; not platoon. They need to see what he can do. He looks good behind the plate. Bako doesn’t mind batting against righty or lefty. He can’t hit either. Hanaigan would have to close his eyes to hit worse than Bako or CP. That is more than enough grounds to axe Baker.

By Steven Ross

September 4, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

Matt wrote:Of course there was a trip to Triple A for CP earlier in the year. Just throwing that out there. Correct me if wrong, but CP volunteered for Triple A duty. Obviously, time well spent working on hitting and baserunning.

By bobs

September 4, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this

Mendoza Twins….hysterical. Hal, you should steal that. By the way Hal, how much blame should be heaped upon the manager when we continue to see mistake after mistake. This is not trying to pile on Dusty post, but just curious if this is a young player problem, end of the season and no hope problem, or just bad talent. Problem some of all, but just wondering where Dusty should fit in with all the mistakes.

By HuberTucky

September 4, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

“Of course there was a trip to Triple A for CP earlier in the year.” Wow! The endless defense of Baker by some (one?) is just baffling, no matter what…facts be damned. CP sent down earlier this year? How’s THAT workin’ for ya? Sure as hell made him a better siutational hitter and smarter base runner, huh?

By Steven Ross

September 4, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

Young guys coming up (Castillo) have to learn and get the signs,” said Baker. “We were happy for him getting his first major-league hit, but then he missed the hit-and-run sign. Yet when CP makes a baserunning blunder, you stick up for him. Hypocrite! You keep rolling the Mendoza twins Patterson-Bako) out there every night expecting different results? Insanity. Baker’s final daze, err, days are near.

By Florida Buckeye

September 4, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

I’m more shocked about what Baker did last night, rather than what he’s saying: Think about it, all year long, it’s late in the game and CP is up at a crucial moment, and the results are the same…Then, last night - on the night the Reds get eliminated from the Playoffs (Officially, that is, ha!) - he actually pinch hits for CP, and then, amazingly enough for Bako as well, true, I’d have rather seen Javvy than Phillips for the pitcher, but…I honestly wonder how many games would have been one, or decided in a different light, IF, Dusty would have done more of this earlier in the year…

By Steve

September 4, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

Me thinks Dusty is active on this blog under a different pen name.

By AP-FLORIDA

September 4, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this

Damn Matt-you are unbelievable!!!

By Matt

September 4, 2008 6:05 AM | Link to this

Of course there was a trip to Triple A for CP earlier in the year. Just throwing that out there.

By HuberTucky

September 4, 2008 1:45 AM | Link to this

Yes, exactly. And how many times have we seen Baker let Corey bat in the 9th inning while there is STILL a possibility to salvage a game and get the same failed results time after time after time after time. And has he ever thrown CP under the bus? Nope. This is how Baker deals with young players versus his pets like Bako and patterson. He’s a lousy choice as manager for a young team.

By Chillicothe Redfan

September 4, 2008 12:26 AM | Link to this

So, Corey Patterson can make fundamental mistakes all season and Baker continues to make excuses for him, but the rookie callup, doubtlessly pumped up after his first single as a Red, misses a sign and Baker throws the kid under the bus. Sorry to break it to you Dusty, but the problems with this team go WAY beyond rookies missing signs on the basepaths.
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