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Baker will sign a new Reds contract

FOR THOSE WONDERING, “Will he or won’t he,” the answer is, “He will.”

Cincinnati Reds manager Dusty Baker will be back next season, armed with a new multi-year contract - probably a three-year extension.

The deal could be announced before the Reds begin postseason play next mid-week for the first time in 15 years, but more likely after postseason play is completed.

A close confidante to Baker told me Wednesday, “They’re close, just a matter of dotting I’s and crossing T’s and Dusty will be back managing the Reds next year.”

The source said it is by Baker’s design that a deal wasn’t announced or negotiations made public during the season, “Because he hates to have the focus pointed at him when the team is in the middle of a pennant race. He wants no distractions away from the team and he doesn’t want himself distracted. That’s the way he always is. That’s him. That’s the man.”

WHEN ASKED pointedly if he is coming back, Baker was true to character in never lying to me. He smiled broadly and returned perusing a stack of statistics on his desk.

All he would say is that he and the team are close. While Baker and his team are very close - as far as respect and relationships - what he meant in this instance was that he and the team are this close to announcing a new contract.

“He gives us leadership, direction and is a father figure to us and we want him here,” said second baseman Brandon Phillips, a free-spirited player who has required more than his share of direction and leadership from his manager.

It would be a public relations disaster if the Reds didn’t bring back a manager who brought the team out of total darkness into broad daylight in three short years.

HIS CURRENT three-year, $12 million contract expires after this season, but there will be no emptying of his memorabilia-filled office in the Cincinnati clubhouse, the walls covered with photographs of family, friends, entertainers and people he admires. And he has a table in the room with the top covered with signatures from Hall of Fame players.

When Baker came to town, he carted three Manager of the Year awards with him (1993, 1997, 2000), plus four postseason appearances as manager of the San Francisco Giants and Chicago Cubs.

His 2002 Giants team was the NL wildcard team and he took them to the seventh game of the World Series before losing to Anaheim.

His 2003 Cubs made it to the NLCS, where they lost to the Jack McKeon-managed Florida Marlins, a series memorable for the Steve Bartman foul ball incident, another seven-game series.

After his not-so-pleasant removal as Cubs manager, when injuries permeated the team and Sammy Sosa became a major distraction, Baker became an ESPN analyst, from where he was plucked in 2008 by Reds CEO/owner Bob Castellini.

“I came back because I knew I wasn’t finished as a manager, my life on the baseball field was not completed,” he said.

And he knew he had a daunting task. The Reds hadn’t been to the postseason since 1995, losing four straight in the NLCS to Atlanta, and hadn’t had a winning season since 2000 under Jack McKeon.

He finished 74-88 and in fifth place in 2008 and 78-84 and in fourth place last year.

Gradually, things turned toward the better as general manager Walt Jocketty and Baker began plugging in productive pieces and hints of better things to come surfaced last September when the Reds went 20-11.

His team started fast this season and it quickly became a two-team argument between the Reds and the St. Louis Cardinals, one or the other leading the NL Central the entire season.

Finally given a workable blend of experienced veteran winners like Scott Rolen, Orlando Cabrera, Miguel Cairo and Arthur Rhodes, blended with a large supply of promising young players, Baker worked magic all season.

Whenever a regular went down with injury, Baker plugged in the right substitute at the right time. Whenever a pinch-hitter was needed, Baker pushed the right button. Whenever a regular needed a day off, Baker put in the right substitute for that day and more often than not that player produced a big hit or a big play that led to victory.

When young players like Jay Bruce and Drew Stubbs struggled and stumbled, and fans wanted them sent to the minors, Baker stuck with them and they produced and got better.

It is exactly what a manager is hired to do and Baker does it the right way constantly.

He is known as a player’s manager because he communicates - a player knows exactly his role and he is told what is expected of him and he is told a day or two beforehand when he will or won’t be in the lineup. And he never embarrasses a player publicly. Mistakes and misdemeanors are handled quietly, but forcefully.

In 38 years of covering baseball, I have never dealt with a more honest manager or a more media-friendly manager. He answers questions directly and he doesn’t lie. He may evade when necessary - and that, too, is part of the job — but he doesn’t tell untruths.

Baker and I became friends in 2000 when he discovered that I was the only member of the national media to predict the Cubs would win the NL Central in 2003 and for the next couple of years he always acknowledged my prediction.

And he is a man who knows how fleeting opportunity can be, as far as the Reds finally making the playoffs.

“You strive to get to this point for so very long, run the race, and then you are one or two steps from the finish line,” he said. “In this situation, you are full of anticipation and have a desire to finish it.”

Baker’s first dose of playoff baseball was as a player with the 1977 Dodgers, “After coming from losing all the time with the Braves. All it does is make you want it more and more and more and more. That’s what it does for you. You never get enough of it. That’s why you play the game. You talk about it in the winter, in spring training, all during the season, wondering who’ll be standing on top at the end. But you have to win the games.

“It’s a tough road,” he said. “I think about some of the guys who have been there. I think about Bobby Cox and how long he has been with the Braves and he has won one. Tony LaRussa has won two. Gene Mauch, a baseball genius, didn’t win any. Everything has to go right for you. It has to go right and you have to make it right.”

And the Reds and Baker are about to make it go right in the manager’s chair with their decisions to stay together in Cincinnati - a fortunate decision for all involved.

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By JimT is an athletic supporter

October 7, 2010 5:01 PM | Link to this

AP: Do what many on here do ignore blog cop, JimT. He likes to ridicule anyone with a different opinion of the Reds, than his own. He apparently does not understand how annoying his gibberish is…

By judy

October 3, 2010 5:55 PM | Link to this

IF DUSTY BAKER IS NOT A GOOD MANGER WHY DOES HE STILL HAVE A JOB AND WHY ARE THE REDS GOING TO THE PLAYOFFS.YOU MUST BE A STUPID CARDS FAN.

By jim t

October 2, 2010 4:02 PM | Link to this

AP Florida,if you’ve been following the game for 50 years and the extent of your baesball IQ is what you have demonstrated with the quality of your post, I can only sumise that you have been wasting your time watching the games. Your comments are the most pointless posted on the blog. If you have to think twice about rooting for the reds you really weren’t much of a fan in the first place. It also may be a indication of another motive which you may be hiding in your constant berating of our soon to be MOY. Feel free to root against the reds. I’m sure true reds fans on here could care less. By the way his name is Dusty you bigoted moron.

By AP-FLORIDA

October 2, 2010 10:32 AM | Link to this

Most of you are giving RUSTY way too much credit. I remember when 90 per cent of comments were negative of RUSTY. Walt, Rolen, Cabrera and the scouting dept in the past 5 years deserve the credit. RUSTY was lucky to be in the right place at the right time. I’ve been a Reds fan for 50 years and RUSTY is not the worst manager we had but he could be in the discussion. I have mixed feelings at this point. I want to root for Reds but if it means keeping RUSTY, I must think twice. How can so many of you be so blind?

By Cecil

October 1, 2010 11:45 AM | Link to this

Have not necessarily been a “Dusty” fan but I have to say I may have been wrong. At least on this team with the possible exception of Phillips there are no Griffey/Larkin type egos. That really hurt the Reds for several years, then throw in Dunn. Problems, problems.

By Darkefan

October 1, 2010 11:11 AM | Link to this

Joe how does one win a pennant while knowing “nothing about baseball?” Was it luck all year? the bench coachs? Good karma? Do tell just how he did it, you do have all the answers, right?

By Mike

October 1, 2010 9:42 AM | Link to this

Thanks to Joe for providing the funniest and most ignorant comment ever: “Baker knows nothing about baseball.” He only turned a team going nowhere into a playoff bound team…in just three years. Yep, he obviously knows nothing about the game. Thanks for sharing your wisdom, Joe. I’m sure you could have done a much better job.

By Mike-Cinci

October 1, 2010 9:17 AM | Link to this

Dusty Baker did an excellent job this year and earned and richly deserves a contract extension. Nobody predicted success for the Reds this year. Many predicted them to finish 5th…a very few had them as high as third. His team played sound fundamental baseball, led the league in going first to third, and played tough and hard every game. He got the most out of every player and everyone made a contribution. The Phillies are the best team in the NL and beating Halladay, Hamels, and Oswalt won’t be easy but it will be fun giving it a try.

By Four Diamonds

October 1, 2010 8:30 AM | Link to this

“The source said it is by Baker’s design that a deal wasn’t announced or negotiations made public during the season, “Because he hates to have the focus pointed at him when the team is in the middle of a pennant race. He wants no distractions away from the team and he doesn’t want himself distracted. That’s the way he always is. That’s him. That’s the man.” If that is the case, then why Hal did you blow your horn and get the news out. Is it because of your EGO, I have to be the first? By the way, the signing of Baker is very unfortunate. Enjoy this season, you won’t see it again for at least three years if Baker remains the manager! Good news is, he will get dumped before he completes the new extension - bet on it in Vegas. Oh yell someone is already betting their house on it.

By brad

October 1, 2010 7:28 AM | Link to this

Now that they have signed Baker, I am going to Vegas in the spring and bet my house this Reds team finishes last next season and make millions doing so. Heisey is not going to hit four pinch hit homers, Cairo is not going to hit .450 while subbing for Votto, Leake is not going to pitch like Cy Young the first two months, etc…

By joe

October 1, 2010 7:25 AM | Link to this

Baker knows nothing about baseball.

By Michael in Singapore

October 1, 2010 3:10 AM | Link to this

Mattingly was probably locked into the Dodger managerial job as Torre’s successor soon after LA hired him. No way the Dodger organization was going to higher Baker.

By Pete

September 30, 2010 11:56 PM | Link to this

The only reason Baker is looking to sign now is because he didn’t get the Dodger job. I’m surprised this hasn’t been mentioned.

By Michael in Singapore

September 30, 2010 11:05 PM | Link to this

I don’t think Dusty is a genius by any means when it comes to baseball strategy- in particular, they way he handled a certain suspect, lung cancer causing closer. That said, the number on the “W” side has dramaticaly improved. Hopefully the trend will continue.

By just a fan

September 30, 2010 8:46 PM | Link to this

What a disappointment. The Reds should enjoy their three days in the playoffs this year because they wont be back for a while since they will have this albatross around their necks for the next three years. What a shame.

By econprof

September 30, 2010 7:34 PM | Link to this

I very much respect what Dusty has accomplished with the Reds. He is a “class act” in all respects.

By MisterRedLegs

September 30, 2010 6:38 PM | Link to this

The national media does not know squat. I can testify to that first hand. Nice prediction though.

By Colgar

September 30, 2010 6:12 PM | Link to this

To prove it to Mike I have to go way back to Sunday, when Dusty rested Bruce against San Diego. His replacement, Chris Heisey got the key hit and hit a home run to boot. Mike, I’d give you more examples but they don’t allow me enough space here. Wake up America!

By Colgar

September 30, 2010 6:11 PM | Link to this

To prove it to Mike I have to go way back to Sunday, when Dusty rested Bruce against San Diego. His replacement, Chris Heisey got the key hit and hit a home run to boot. Mike, I’d give you more examples but they don’t allow me enough space here. Wake up America!

By Mike in KY

September 30, 2010 5:10 PM | Link to this

DS: No one wants to go out and buy new players, but if we want to keep the great young guys we have, the money has to be there. Votto is going to command $6-8 million. Bruce will get $3-4 million. Cueto and Volquez will have to be paid. That costs money. Getting some of the higher dollar contracts (Harang, Cordero) off the books will help, but the holes still need to be filled unless the Reds are to go on the “four-year plan” that the Rays and Twins exist on. I would love to see Votto, Phillips and Bruce become the face of this franchise for the next 10 years, but that will cost money.

By Randy

September 30, 2010 4:33 PM | Link to this

Congratulations to Dusty and the Reds. He’ll definitely be awarded Manager of the Year. Since the Dusty band wagon is overloaded, I’ll just jog along side. I realize everyone is giddy about the recent success but can we not blow this opportunity to promote Chris Speier to Manager. The Reds can save about nine million in the process. Does anyone realize how much it’ll take to keep Joey Votto?

By Gem&Heater

September 30, 2010 3:29 PM | Link to this

Good call by the Reds. Dusty finally brought professionalism to the Reds manager position. Being a players manager hopefully helps to keep the key players together for the next few years. He should be manager of the year again.

By Bob540

September 30, 2010 3:24 PM | Link to this

Example: Under Jim Bowden, the Reds had some success signing star players that were hurt and other teams gave up on. Ron Gant (broken leg), Pete Schoreck (shoulder surgery) and Kevin Mitchell among them. They took a chance on these guys, the players proved they could return to productivity, and then the Reds lost them to other teams that would pay them more. The Reds signed a fragile Scott Rolen last year, when they might have had his services years ago HAD they paid him. If the Reds follow their history, then Votto and/or Phillips and/or any of the young pitchers will get picked away by teams willing and able to pay more. And who the manager is won’t matter as much in that event.

By Bob540

September 30, 2010 3:17 PM | Link to this

Example: In 1999, the Reds won their division. Then they sign Griffey and couldn’t afford to keep some of their pitching. In 2000, their pitching was poor and, as we know, Griffey was injury-prone and went on to be a big disappointment. Even given Griffey’s big contract, had the Reds been able to afford a larger payroll they wouldn’t have had to decimate the pitching staff, and 2000 might have been a bit different.

By prove it wasn't correct

September 30, 2010 3:11 PM | Link to this

HEY By Mike “I want to see someone prove this. I want to see proof that, when a regular was rested, the substitute was the main cause of the Reds victory in that game. That might be the stupidest thing I’ve ever read in my life. I am not exaggerating.” I believe YOU are mistaken, but you prove it wasn’t the case. I have many recollections of Janish, Cairo, Nix, Heisy, Valenko and Hannigan(early b4 he rotated regularly) of filling in and coming thru! You might want to go suck an egg.

By Bob540

September 30, 2010 3:07 PM | Link to this

DS: “Trying to buy a postseason appearance” . . did I say that? No! Don’t put words in my mouth. I DID NOT say that success depends upon filling the roster with high-priced talent, ala the Yankees. What I said was — what has happened was — the Reds haven’t been able to keep many of their good, up-and-coming players, so they had to let some go, to their regret when those players produced big-time in ways that could have benefitted the Reds. And it affected the Reds being able to sign needed free agents — perfect example was when Scott Rolen was signed by the Cards and the Reds also coveted him. The Cards won, because their payroll was something like $75 million while the Reds were at $45 million. You give me that extra $30 and I don’t have to know much about baseball to hire talent to coach and play and beat you. Yes, drafts are important, but a team will not succeed over time if most of their young, proven talent gets signed away at the first opportunity for free agency. This has happened repeatedly to the Reds . . and no manager can make up for lack of talent.

By Goredlegs

September 30, 2010 3:03 PM | Link to this

Mike, did you watch the Reds this year? Seemingly every time Cairo, Heisey, or Janish played for a regular they had a great game.

By Boomer

September 30, 2010 3:03 PM | Link to this

Mike, if you were a regular reader of Hal’s you would have noticed that in numerous columns this year he has pointed out where a substitution that Dusty has made, made a difference in a Reds victory. Lighten up and enjoy the ride.

By gmr

September 30, 2010 2:36 PM | Link to this

I was excited when the Reds signed Dusty and haven’t been disappointed since. He has taken all the blame for their losses and receives very little credit when they win. He deserves to be Manager of the Year. I appreciate the fact that Hal has acknowledged the great job Dusty has done. I just wish more in the media would as well. He deserves a lot of respect.

By Mike

September 30, 2010 2:12 PM | Link to this

“Whenever a regular needed a day off, Baker put in the right substitute for that day and more often than not that player produced a big hit or a big play that led to victory.” I want to see someone prove this. I want to see proof that, when a regular was rested, the substitute was the main cause of the Reds victory in that game. That might be the stupidest thing I’ve ever read in my life. I am not exaggerating.

By Jack

September 30, 2010 1:51 PM | Link to this

Great article Hal. Never have been that big of a fan of Dusty, but there is absolutely no arguing that he got the job done this year. Congrats to Dusty for finally getting us back to the Playoffs.

By Custer

September 30, 2010 1:33 PM | Link to this

I compare him to Marvin Lewis and realize how lucky we are to have Dusty.

By Custer

September 30, 2010 1:33 PM | Link to this

I compare him to Marvin Lewis and realize how lucky we are to have Dusty.

By DS

September 30, 2010 1:00 PM | Link to this

“The key to the Reds’ past struggles, and the key to continuing and building upon their current success, is the payroll.” No, it’s not. The key is drafting and player development so you get top talent during their cheapest years — and aren’t paying five times for free agents of similar ability. Trying to buy a postseason appearance is what leads to contracts like Griffey’s, Harang’s Cordero’s, Patterson’s, etc. Votto, Bruce, Leake, Cueto, Bailey, Volquez, etc. are all making less than $1 million per season. That’s how you make multi-season playoff runs and afford to keep your top players. (In that regard, Dan O’Brien doesn’t get the respect he deserves for finally getting some legit prospects in the farm system.) “Yes, the low attendance at Reds’ games this season hasn’t helped, but the TB Rays have had similar attendance problems and they have the best record in baseball.” The Reds and Rays had almost identical Opening Day payrolls. (And, in fact, the Rays had the second lowest in all of MLB during their 2008 AL pennant year.) The fact both teams are spending $70 million despite the fans not showing up is pretty amazing. Now, if all those fans who said they were waiting for a playoff team actually started showing up, you’d see the payroll go up even more. But most of these people were full of crap and aren’t showing up regardless of how the team does.

By pogwilley

September 30, 2010 1:00 PM | Link to this

Great article Hal, as usual and I’m very happy Dusty will return. Nothing but good news this week.

By pogwilley

September 30, 2010 12:57 PM | Link to this

Great article Ha, as usual and I’m very happy Dusty will return. Nothing but good news this week.

By Tom

September 30, 2010 12:56 PM | Link to this

I’ve never been too pleased with Dusty as manager but you can’t argue with success. The players seem to respond to him. I don’t expect the Reds to beat the Phils, but you never know. Not many of us thought we’d be in the playoffs last April.

By Bob540

September 30, 2010 12:42 PM | Link to this

The key to the Reds’ past struggles, and the key to continuing and building upon their current success, is the payroll. If Reds’ ownership spends the money, they can retain talented players and sign new talent as needed. But, if their payroll remains low compared to their competitors, they will have their talent cherry-picked away and will see coveted free agents go elsewhere. Yes, the low attendance at Reds’ games this season hasn’t helped, but the TB Rays have had similar attendance problems and they have the best record in baseball. I believe that if the Reds continue to field a contending team, the fans will come.

By Ted Turner

September 30, 2010 12:41 PM | Link to this

Would love to Dusty return to Atlanta. Bobby has been great; you could be better.

By ohdave

September 30, 2010 12:31 PM | Link to this

Some fans like to nit-pick his decision making but it is obvious that Dusty enjoys the immense respect of his players. The affection towards him displayed at the clinching celebration was unmistakeable.

By Jake

September 30, 2010 12:25 PM | Link to this

Congrats to the Cincinnati Reds, Dusty and Walt. These guys, with that young team, could be in for a great run! I know I’ll be watching.

By Red Rick

September 30, 2010 12:23 PM | Link to this

Good Deal Dusty!!

By jake

September 30, 2010 12:19 PM | Link to this

I’m glad for Dusty and the Reds. Dusty is not the greatest manager in baseball, but I respect his knowledge of the game. I haven’t seen the Reds in this position for a long time, and I’m a 45 year old lifetime fan! Go Cincy!!!

By david silverwood

September 30, 2010 12:12 PM | Link to this

I believe this is a good deal for Baker and thanks to Jocketty for helping it along——sadly I wish that the Reds would really show emotion.

By Steve F

September 30, 2010 12:08 PM | Link to this

That’s very good news. If not this year, the Reds and Dusty will get to the World Series in the future. I hope it’s next month.

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