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By snowbird

June 17, 2008 9:56 PM | Link to this

Statistically, the risk of secondhand smoke is far smaller than the risk of getting lung cancer from drinking pasteurized milk. Epidemiologists use �relative risk� (RR or Risk Ratio) as a means for gauging the severity of risk. The U.S. Surgeon General has stated the RR for secondhand smoke is between 1.20 to 1.30. The risk for lung cancer from drinking pasteurized milk is 2.14. And the relative risk for getting cancer from drinking the municipal tap water that tens of millions of Americans drink every day in thousands of cities across the U.S. is 2.0 to 4.0. But where are all the dead bodies from the millions of people exposed to this far higher risk? Do you know of any? So how can secondhand smoke, which has a far lower relative risk, be killing thousands of people as claimed? In 2001 the International Agency for Research on Cancer, in Lyon, France, reported: �ETS exposure during childhood is not associated with an increased risk of lung cancer. No clear dose-response relationship could be demonstrated for cumulative spousal ETS exposure…. Even exposure to ETS from other sources was not associated with lung cancer risk.�

By harry

June 17, 2008 2:03 AM | Link to this

As a business owner, with 50 years exp. dealing with all the issues of running a business, Ohio is probably the worst state for starting a business. Ohio is 20 to 30 years behind the rest of the county in understanding the needs of small buiness. If your under 50 years of age….MOVE….. out of Ohio…..Florida, Arizona, Texas,California are decent economic areas. If your looking for long term opportunity, you might look at Miss Alabama or any of the Gulf Coast States, real growth there.

By K Mcdaniel

June 16, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

As a consigner at Lori’s Loft I find this new shop a great asset to the Dayton area. Very friendly atmosphere, large selection of quality items. Good Luck

By Josef O

June 16, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

I have been to Lori’s Loft and I have to say that it was quite an experience. Their selection is vast and very upscale. Their prices are very reasonable and comparable. It is slightly difficult to locate but all in all a good place to shop.

By Riverdale Ghost

June 16, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

Well, you can’t do too much with anything like food, clothing, or shelter even if there is quality service with it due to the way society operates these days. Cases in point:

How many people would use the services of a shoe repair shop even if it is run by a cobbler? Many of those shops that are gone from downtown had to do with clothing, while the bent of society is just having enough on to be legal.

A highly technical service (e.g.,computer repair) can sometimes succeed.

By bob scott

June 16, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

How do we the people WHITE OR BLACK save our communitys? THIS IS A SIMPLE WAY OF CHANGE.Remove the mayor/governor and their rich groupies from office,Take back OUR COMMUNITYS and void the mindless laws,taxes that has all but destroyed Ohio and Dayton.No matter our race we are being put behind the old eight ball OR AS I LIKE TO SAY,WE ARE THE PIGS IN THE SLAUTER HOUSE AND THEY ARE THE BUTCHERS OF US ALL.

By Musician

June 16, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

Ohio is simply a nanny state.

Votes casinos out every opportunity. Ever looked at the parking lots at these places right across the state lines.

Voted on a smoking ban that had terms you couldn’t ever find in any dictionary. Ever look at the booming nightclub scene across the river from Cincy (Covington/Newport KY)? This is only one example.

Ohio needs to wake up and quit trying to set “moral examples” for the Midwest. The other states take our money and just laugh at us. I would, too.

By Ohio & Ted Suck

June 16, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

Dayton/Mont Cty is a crap hole! Taxes are killing us, plus all the people who suck off of society.

By bob scott

June 16, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

My advice to people in our around Dayton.Due to the local give it all to the wanta bes government,do what i did run do not walk out of Dayton for you are paying the price for their life style.

By Out of Biz Owner

June 16, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

I was a small biz owner- Convenience Store/Gas Station, private and American owned. High gas prices and the inability to compete with the larger corporate companies drove us right out of business. Now we are stuck with filing bankruptcy because we can’t pay off the debts owed. There is no more American Dream in Ohio.

By Julie

June 16, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

Forget streetcars and bring in the monorail!

By John Knauss

June 16, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this

I sold McGuffy’s and left Dayton as I DID see the writing on the wall. I was being legislated and taxed out of business. So I landed in a free territory - the British Virgin Isl. Well now, our gov. follows the lead of USA lawmakers - hence, we now are stopped for talking on the cell phone while in the car - we are stopped for not wearing seat belts (although no one goes over 45 MPH)…and we are not allowed to smoke even on our beaches BUT we can still sip a beer while operating our cars. Shhhh!

By Papa Ubu

June 16, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

I opened a guaranteed weight loss clinic only to see it bankrupted when neither Bill Pout nor T. Graspar lost any weight! Though in my defense, I had no experience in dealing with fatheads.

By daniel

June 16, 2008 7:51 AM | Link to this

to much crime,illegals and blacks in dayton and add that with who the gov. makes you hire and that tells the whole story !!!

By Bill Pout

June 16, 2008 7:47 AM | Link to this

MY Creative Crass Inanity is in the process of transforming the Oregon District into a hip art destination. This will result in a net gain of five part-time, no-pay art gallery attendant jobs. Get urban!

See it and sleep at DaytonMostMoronic.Commedy

By Linda

June 16, 2008 6:26 AM | Link to this

Moose, a smoking ban has a lot to do with any type of business. It robs the owners of their constitutional right to own and operate as they see fit to satisfy a small group of non-owners.

The owners pay the bills, taxes, perform the labor while the community and the state takes ownership regardless of the owners income losses.

What next, a group who does not like something the consignment shop owner sells or the color of the walls in your own home. Owners are servants against their will!

By Jay

June 16, 2008 12:31 AM | Link to this

If I’m interested in having a business where I let my patrons smoke, then no thanks on me opening a business in Ohio.

By Paul

June 16, 2008 12:16 AM | Link to this

b rogers: That was such a weak attempt… don’t quit your day job.
I think finding a business that can take advantage of a weak economy is the key. Flipping foreclosed real estate is what I’m getting into, with great results so far.

By b rogers

June 16, 2008 12:05 AM | Link to this

Actually a consignment shop is probably the perfect business since very few in Ohio can afford to buy anything new.

By History Buff

June 15, 2008 11:58 PM | Link to this

I had a business and saw the clouds coming, so I sold out and thank goodness I did. NO, I would NOT have a business in Ohio again. Everything that makes money directly & indirectly and everything that dictates law is the pharmaceutical industry. Sound strange? Believe it! We can thank that industry for our smoking ban too. People are NOT shopping and spending in Ohio as they used to.

By b rogers

June 15, 2008 11:26 PM | Link to this

Moose asked: What does the smoking ban have to do with a consignment shop?

Very valid question. The answer is “I don’t know” That is why I wish Lori the best of luck. Thank goodness she is not going into the hospitality industry.

By karon

June 15, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this

alijane , If everyone wants a maxx train in there suburb, this tells me the trains are a success!

By alijane

June 15, 2008 10:31 PM | Link to this

Living in a Portland suburb, I can tell you the MAXX light rail is little more than rapid transit crime. Every burg around here wants the light rail, no matter the cost, they think it is some sort of magic econmic engine that will transform their burg into a metropolis. It hasn’t happened.

Ohio sounds as bad for small business as Oregon. Yes, we tried to build for biotech too another bust. Firt chip plants, dot.com and now biotech all bust. Small business is the economic engine!

By M005E

June 15, 2008 10:01 PM | Link to this

What does the smoking ban have to do with a consignment shop?

By virgilk

June 15, 2008 9:43 PM | Link to this

Why would anyone try to start a business in OHIO when taxes are so high and everything is done to make it harder for them to survive. We are losing our rights fast enough now without the help of our own government for the profit of Big Pharma.

By b rogers

June 15, 2008 9:03 PM | Link to this

Lori, I really wish you luck with your new business especially since much of the hospitality industry has been severely eroded by the smoking ban. More than 5,400 people have lost their jobs in the past year because of it. They don’t call this state Nohio for no reason. I think your new business would be a HUGE gamble.

By gctavern

June 15, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this

As a bar owner, we have FICA, unemployment tax, disability tax, workers comp, RITA taxes, sales & use taxes, property taxes in a state with a SMOKING BAN. Everything works AGAINST small business in Ohio & the government wants an economic stimlus package for biotechnology? What laid off bartender will qualify for one of those jobs? 5,400 lost their jobs the 1st 12 months of the ban & liquor permit holders lost 67.44 MILLION DOLLARS in sales. Don’t hope for the American Dream. It’s a nightmare.

By Jill

June 15, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this

NO, IT IS NOT A GOOD PLACE FOR A SMALL BUSINESS ! I do the accounts for our family business.It was my Grandfather’s,my brothers and I purchased it 4 years ago. Our introduction to business ownership was a tax bill for 4 times what our Grandfather paid. It went downhill from there. The State of Ohio makes it nearly impossible to operate at a profit. Add some silly ballot issues & local regs and you are better off taking your money to Vegas. At least you have a fighting chance at the craps tables.

By Reverend Joe Sinnett

June 15, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this

The definition of small business does not apply in Ohio. This is a State that functions on Greed Graft and Corruption and caters to special interst from outside the State at the expense of it’s citizens.You may have a chance if you open a DRUG STORE. Every thing else is owned and operated by the State. OR SO THEY THINK. Ohio with it’s Taliban ideology is as close to a third world country as you can get with out leaving the continental United States. I guess that would be a NO!

By karon

June 15, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this

Streetcars spur economic development, buses do NOT do that. The cities that have put in place streetcars, Denver, Portland, Steattle, Charlotte are doing fantastic. These streetcars bring visibility and permancency. Streetcars are better for the environment and where the streetcar line starts,property values go up! Columbus and Cincinnati are both in plans for streetcars. This create thousands of new jobs for those cities!

By HUH

June 15, 2008 6:55 PM | Link to this

Why would anyone ride a street car when they won’t ride a bus? Why put down expensive rail tracks and electric lines for a street car when we already have busses people don’t ride? Why not spend those millions on tax incentives for businesses willing to relocate to Dayton and bring JOBS! Unless you want to ride an empty street car though a ghost town!

By Hello

June 15, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this

Streetcars are a good idea, but why not a subway system? Just look at what a subway system did for NYC! Now seriously Karon, don’t be foolish. I see RTA busses that could hold 60 passengers riding all over town with 2 or 3 people onboard. Lets not waste even more money on streetcars!

By Billy

June 15, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

Who would want to start a business in Ohio with lobbyist with power like this? Jagers of the American Cancer calls the general lobbying message to legislators as: you don�t want to deal with in an election year, you are not going to make people happy, we won�t make it easy for you. So basically do you want to be on the side of… RJ Reynolds, Licensed Beverage Association, or do you want to be on the side of the American Cancer Society, the Heart Association, doctors, hospitals.

By karon

June 15, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

If Ohio wants to bring new jobs to the state, transportation must be addressed. Trains are vital way of bringing back the city. Cities are where job creations start. If your city is doing good your suburbs will do good also. The city of Dayton must change into a 21st century, streetcars would be a great start. Streetcars can spur economic growth, this has been proven in the cities that have recently received these streetcars. Cincinnati and Columbus both are getting streetcars!

By Linda

June 15, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

I would never invest money labor, or time in a state that allows a small group of citizens to vote away the rights of the business owner as they did with the Ohio smoking ban.

Ohio must not value the Ohio business owners and allows them to lose profits and or have to close for good while the funder of the smoking ban profits from smoking cessation products.

NO WAY!!!

By Boog

June 15, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

Nope! Tax rates are too high. Ohio use to be a low tax state. Now, we’re the fourth highest taxed state in the union. Hey, ho, way to go, Ohio.