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Predictions anyone?
So what do you think? Will Dayton’s school levy pass? Give us your prediction in the comments — yes or no and what percent of the vote for each.
Normally you would expect an economy this bad to work against a school levy in Dayton. But it seems likely that there will be a huge turnout of Democrats voting in the presidential election, a phenomenon that usually helps school levies pass. Which trend will win out?
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By Dennis
November 19, 2008 4:49 AM | Link to this
Levy passes and in today’s news I read: A sports program decimated by budget cuts in the last 18 months is making a comeback in Dayton Public Schools, thanks to the district’s levy passing Nov. 4. The talk before the levy was passed was about raising tests scores, too many kids in classrooms,cutting teachers etc. etc. This election should show people throwing money at any problem is not the way to solve any problem. The people who actually get to decide how the money is spent just continue to make very poor decisions with more money.
By Calvin
November 11, 2008 7:44 AM | Link to this
A problem is that when the state legislators and governor do what the courts told them is that someone still pays. The tax on business in Ohio is already very high; that’s a reason so many have disappeared. Who is the magic person behind the tree who’s going to pay all this money to support the public and charter schools? It’s not someone else; it’s YOU. We are already paying taxes for the business that has been lost from Ohio in many various ways: welfare, unemployment, property taxes, on and on. We can end up like Michigan except we have a partisan governor who spends most of his time politicing.
By Buford
November 7, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this
The DPS levy passed. No real surprise there as the supporters had close to a half million dollar war chest to flood the market. Interesting, in this morning’s DDN, on the editorial page, is a comment attributed to Dr Stanic saying there will likely be a need for another infusion of “new” money for DPS within the next three years. Sounds like the ink is not dry on this levy before DPS announces their intention to get more money from property owners. Puts me in mind of the old saying “death from a thousand cuts” where an objective is achieved through a series of “small” steps (such as smaller individual levies instead of the past large one that failed). Seems the plan now is to get the money originally denied in one levy - through a series of smaller and more frequent levies. Results to the home owners is the same, we continue to pay more. Until property owners actually MAKE the Governor and the State Legislators do what the State Supreme Court has already told them to do - property owners will continue to pay.
By charterschoolhater
November 5, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this
In response to Deb. I do agree that many students in catholic schools have more supportive parents. The biggest indictment of public schools is the fact that poor minority students from the intercity thrive in catholic schools. Some who struggled in the public schools really turn it around in catholic schools. I think it is more the striking differences in philosophy between the two educational systems than the fact that the parents value education. It is time for Dayton to tell the children and their parents that we run the schools. I am a product of catholic schools. I remember this one theme was drubbed into me. The theme was as follows. We are very happy to have you here in our school. Here are the rules. They are not debatable. You will follow them or you will not be here anymore. The concept of too many rights to students in public schools has really hurt the educational process in public schools. Yes all children have a right to an education. However that right does not include the right to disrupt another’s right to learn. Many children in the Dayton public schools because of this preoccupation with rights and due process have had their right to and education corrupted by the refusal of the schools to deal with unruly and disruptive students. It is unfortunate that many of Dayton’s children need therapy. That is truly tragic. However it is their own problem. The schools should do all they can to assist them in getting the help they need and deserve. However with that said, the fact that so many children have issues and engage in truly disruptive behavior in the classroom, buses and the hallways of the schools doesn’t not somehow abrogate the other non disruptive children’s right to their own education. That would never happen in a catholic school. That is because the school would remove a disruptive student from the school permanently. If America is serious about changing the tragic fact that our children in public schools are not performing up to standards, then we must come to terms with the fact that tragic as it may seem, that some children through no fault of their may have to become a casualty to allow the many to reach their full potential. No one in their right mind can believe that education can go on in an environment that is so full of chaos as most of Dayton’s High schools are run in. For anyone who doubts my comments please make a surprise visit to your local DPS high school. They do after all belong to all of us.
By deb
November 5, 2008 5:34 AM | Link to this
Charterschoolhater - Catholic schools also have students who have supportive parents, and also have students who are focused more on receiving an education. My assumption(& yes, i realize what “assumption” can mean..) is the majority of students sitting in those classrooms are set on disrupting the learning environment either….Sorry - but you’re comparing apples to oranges..
By jimi
November 4, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this
52-48 pass. record turnout.westside performs at 95%.
By charterschoolhater
November 4, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
I might add I am a lifelong democrat who also voted a straight ticket ballot as well. But voted NO on the levy. So the democrat theory does not work at least in my case.
By charterschoolhater
November 4, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this
I voted NO on the levy. As someone who believes that the district is remains too administrator heavy and has yet to show me they can adequately educate children ready to compete in the 21st century, I need to have my faith restored before I am ready to vote them more money. It is not h0w much money you have to spend, it is how wisely you use the resources you are allocated. Dayton area catholic schools do a much better job educating children than Dayton does, with far less money than Dayton has even now. For all you undecideds out there you VOTE NO too.