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State wants to give Miami-Jacobs more time to clean up nursing program
COLUMBUS - A state investigator is recommending the Ohio Board of Nursing give Miami-Jacobs Career College more time and another chance to clean up its troubled practical nursing program.
Ronda Shamansky, hearing examiner for the Ohio Board of Nursing, wrote in a 47-page report that Miami-Jacobs should have “at least one additional year” of conditional approval for its nursing program. The report outlines instances the college hired unqualified instructors or did not comply with state rules.
In her report Shamansky noted the “mixed feeling” she had making a “reluctant” recommendation after the school had repeated chances to right problems in its programs. “Yet some of those same problems have continued to reoccur,” she wrote.
Shamansky also recommends the nursing board make the college pay for the cost of the lengthy investigation and hearing process that has dragged on now more than a year. “If it was this process that forced Miami-Jacobs to make improvements to come into compliance with the rules governing its program, then some consideration should be given to whether that expense should be borne by the Ohio Board of Nursing, or by the program itself,” she wrote.
In a statement, Miami-Jacobs officials said they were “cautiously optimistic” the board would heed the examiner’s recommendation and extend the conditional approval of the program.
“We have made significant progress in the past year in instituting higher standards for student achievement that have resulted in higher national licensing examination test scores,” the statement said. The school has also hired a consultant to make sure the program is in compliance with state regulations.
The nursing board will consider Shamansky’s recommendations when they meet in January and decide whether to allow the program to continue under its conditional approval or end the program.
Miami-Jacobs has troubles outside its practical nursing program. The college was recently ordered to pay settlements to five of seven surgery technology students who sued the school for claiming a program was accredited when it was not. The college lost accreditation of its respiratory care program after withdrawing an appeal to the Commission on Accreditation for Respiratory Care, which had moved to pull its approval.
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By Max
November 24, 2010 9:13 AM | Link to this
An obvious question: Is this recommendation - even if it is accepted - something a student would invest a year of tuition and time into with the ‘hopes’ MJ’s nursing program around? Is this something worthy of tuition grants and student loans?
By Connie
November 23, 2010 7:04 PM | Link to this
Hopefully, the program will improve to be worth the $22,000 that a student spends to go there. Why anyone would go there now to be a guinea pig in what everyone knows is/was a substandard program…well, some people do not read the news — but most employers do. This school should be sanctioned (heavily fined!) by the state AND the money given to the students who made the mistake of going there while the program was not up to par. Will that happen? Not as long as the Ohio Board of Career Colleges (the regulation board)is filled with industry insiders.
By margaret
November 23, 2010 4:46 AM | Link to this
the school passes people without making the grade. the goverment has no business giving student loans,when no one will give them a second look for a job. they passed my kids through, and gave them accredited hrs,which by the way are not reconized by any lagitamate college,gave them a diploma,now they owe money on wasted time. the techinal schools that are out there need to be shut down,it does no good for anyone.if any people need a education go to an acredited college,that all u.s.states reconize
By Michelle
November 22, 2010 7:34 PM | Link to this
I am a student at Fortis (foramally known as Rets). I do not agree with putting Fortis in the same category as MJ. There were a few post that mentioned Rets alongside MJ. Just because we are the same “type” of school does not mean that we agree with how MJ has handled the situtation. As far as leaving RN progrmas up to universities, that would be fine if there wasn’t up to a five year wait just to get into the program. Fortis (aka Rets) makes getting a degree in nursing available to someone now. Here at Fortis you must take a test to even get into the RN program. This test is also $60 up front. I don’t know how they do it at MJ but here at Fortis you have to meet criteria to even get in. On top of that it is more expensive than a regular college. Hence the no wait time.
By Bigrig
November 22, 2010 6:09 PM | Link to this
They have already had more than enough time to completely reorganize. What makes ANYONE think they will change unless they are forced? As always it’s about the money. Fines and lost class tuitions will be the only way to reach them.
By Bigrig
November 22, 2010 6:06 PM | Link to this
They have already had more than enough time to completely reorganize. What makes ANYONE think they will change unless they are forced? As always it’s about the money. Fines and lost class tuitions will be the only way to reach them.
By Spike
November 22, 2010 5:37 PM | Link to this
That wont make Clayton Luckie happy because they haven’t contributed to his campaign fund like DPS. This megalomaniacal dirty typical Democrat is hell bent on closing every charter school in the state too. The same schools that serves the students he failed miserably as DPS board member. MJ has served the Dayton area extremely well since before any of us were born. I feel that they will overcome this grease ball politician’s bid for publicity and kick backs. Clayton Luckie is a disgrace and every racist fool in his district needs to hang their heads in shame.
By MJCC Graduate
November 22, 2010 4:41 PM | Link to this
Kudos to Ronda Shamansky for a wise and knowledgable decision!
By wrc
November 22, 2010 3:12 PM | Link to this
What makes her think that they’ll obey.Last time they were told to make changes they just ignored it and went on without fixing what they were told.I seriously doubt unless they appoint a watchdog that things will changed as the person which has run the college still thinks they did nothing wrong.Given that I see in two years the college reverting back to it’s old ways only then it will affect a whole new group of students.She mustn’t have looked at the school record or she would have never came to this decision.Maybe they’ll fire her when in five to ten years if that,the state has to come back an closed the program caused they revert back or never really fix it.
By rob
November 22, 2010 3:05 PM | Link to this
There are some really good nurses that have come out of Rets and Miami Valley CTC. I dont belive Miami Jacobs should be given any more chances they have had more than enough. Secondly i dont belive any of them are doing students justice especially with the way their programs are set up. There are litle to no LPN jobs in Dayton, and it is becoming over saturated. I have known several people (LPNs) who have been looking for a job for at least 6 months and still cannot find work. The Tech colleges should be allowed to opperated but but have the same requirements as a normal college.
By DDN, WTF?
November 22, 2010 2:13 PM | Link to this
How does the DDN publish all these articles saying the program is over but obviously its not? Horrible reporting again by the Dayton Daily News.
By Ben
November 22, 2010 1:47 PM | Link to this
A couple things to keep in mind. Their nursing program is for LPN’s, not RN’s. And there is no hospital in the area that will hire an LPN right now. RN’s are too plentiful. LPN’s are mainly regulated to the nursing homes and I agree we need quality LPN’s. Step it up MJ or shut it down!!
By anna
November 22, 2010 1:41 PM | Link to this
Yes give then a chance to inprove look what they charge
By kim
November 22, 2010 12:40 PM | Link to this
Are you kidding me!! They really need to rethink this decision because there has been numerous students who have gone through Miami-Jacobs programs with “A”s and were not able to pass the state exam!! Why are they not teaching the correct and complete curriculum for theses students but yet are being considered to continue?
By mt
November 22, 2010 11:51 AM | Link to this
Nursing programs should remain with academic institutions such as Wright State, University of Cincinnati etc. Unfortunately, the demand for RNs far exceeds the supply. Hence, the addmission of students that normally would not meet the educational standards at Universities. With nurses from RETS and Miami Jacobs, one wonders about the quality of care given in our local hospitals. Ask your nurse about the medications you receive….I doubt that he or she can tell you the class, mechanism of action etc. Some nurses are just becoming pill pushers rather than having knowledge. Stay healthy!
By Nobody
November 22, 2010 11:22 AM | Link to this
What was the reason for her recommendation? Why was that left out of this article? IMO the program should be pulled. This has been going on for several years.
By Hope They Get It Together
November 22, 2010 11:19 AM | Link to this
I hope MJ takes the opportunity to get their nursing program in order. Of Kaplan College and Southwestern, they have tne nicest and most up-to-date equipment and facilities.