By Ben

September 23, 2008 7:45 AM | Link to this

I do apologize about asking about race, I misread your use of the word towards the presidential race, honest mistake.

By Ben

September 23, 2008 7:42 AM | Link to this

Where did I mention race Alice? The only person mentioning race in this election is Obama and Obama’s supporters. I use the term Obamabot (a combination of Obama and Robot since it appears you don’t get it) because you seem to blindly follow what he says like a robot. Plus, when you are talking about wealth redistribution (increased corporate taxes, increased taxes on the wealthy, universal health care which will be supported by the upper class) these are SOCIALIST ideas. I use the term socialism, because that is exactly what it is. These all sound very nice in theory until you realize that the tax hikes are going to tank financial growth, stiffle small businessees, drastically raise unemployment as companies try to maintain profit margins, and it will skyrocket the price of energy (just like the democratic congress has enabled over the last two years). How exactly did these ideals work out for the old CCCP? You are pulling the exact same thing Obama has been doing for months now. Instead of legitimately arguing my point on how his fiscal policy will destabilize the economy and lead to widespread layoffs, you say “That’s not fair, you’re mean, go away” and refuse to actually refute legitimate questions. At least give me a standard MoveOn.org response and i’ll show you the swiss cheese like holes in their argument as well.

By Alice

September 22, 2008 9:58 PM | Link to this

Ben, posting the same thing in many posts doesn’t make it any less true. Your reference to socialism (not to mention the use of the term “Obamabot”) and equating it somehow to this race is an example of what you accuse me of. Every election cycle people like you resort to name-calling and an annoying inclination to label other Americans as elitist, socialist/communist/marxist (as if it was the same thing), liberal, uppity, european, blah blah blah… please, Ben, as a FREETHINKER, come up with something more original or get another candidate to support.

By Ben

September 22, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Alice, you have posted the exact thing in several blog topics. It is clear that you are just an Obamabot that rehashes what they tell you to say without seeing any of the inherent flaws. Socilism promotes that type of behavior, whereas capitalism is all about free thought, free market, and being the best you can be.

By TRS

September 22, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

I quote “to transform government, we must fundamentally replace a failed intellectual structure, a failed interest group system, and a failed political process”. Government is sick. So is Wall Street; however, change just for the sake of change is not good. The change Obama/Biden advocates is to reform one sick entity, Wall Street, (and if history is any indication over regulate it) while at the same time unleashing and making the other entity - government, more powerful and involved in our lives. They have repackaged and updated big government liberalism as a cure when historically we only need to go back a couple decades and see its failure in this country or look at Europe and see its ineptitude there. Frankly, the change McCain/Palin bring may not be much better but certainly is more paletable in that it seeks to restrict the harm government can do while at the same time regulating, but not over regulating the ills of Wall Street. If you think government is a good solution you need only look at Congress’ cluelessness last week in the Wall Street crisis and you can see they simply are inept. Thats who you want to give more power with your money?? Your Healthcare?? Actually for those that are open minded enough to listen, American Solutions day is Saturday. It is a 527 non partisan (yes, Newt Gingrich heads it) and will not have polticians, but American people presenting their thoughts and solutions. You can catch it in DISH, DirecTV or the internet. In truth, it is not going to be the politicians from either party that fix things - it will be the American people, their ideas, resources, enginuity and desires that will make it happen and an engaged electorite which will force government to change.

By Alice

September 22, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Congress was controlled by Republicans from 1995 to 2007. Seven of our nine Supreme Court Justices were appointed by Republican Presidents. George Bush has been president for eight years. Now McCain expects us to believe that he’s not really a Republican and that, as a Republican, he can clean up the damage they have done. Vote for real change and for REAL progress. Obama/Biden 08

By redmama

September 22, 2008 1:29 AM | Link to this

Is anyone else getting nervous about this ticket? I won’t make a final decision until I see Palin myself, but the more I hear, the more she sounds just as secretive as Cheney. I’ve been waiting for there to be a woman in the white house, but is she the right one?

By Jim

September 22, 2008 12:20 AM | Link to this

Welcome back to Ohio Senator McCain. I was wondering if Obama has ever been in a fist fight. I know he sounds like he could talk and smile his way out of everything. I know McCain besides his pow status got into several fights at Naval Academy. This is a question I know the news media would never ask. Anybody besides me a little curious?

By TRS

September 21, 2008 11:07 PM | Link to this

motherjones - not there’s an impartial website. Want to read about no regulation go to villagevoice.com and read about Andrew Cuomo who set the wheels of this mess in motion. Want to know why it wasn’t addressed - because it would have meant cracking down on the subprime market and as David Brooks put it that would be saying “don’t lend money to poor people”. We all know who would have demogogued that! As for the surplus, Clinton’s dot com bubble and 9/11 wiped that out long before Iraq. I’m not saying all is rosey or that all was done well; but, the Dems have their hands all over this mess. Have you heard them calling for an investigation?

By william worrell

September 21, 2008 9:59 PM | Link to this

Democrats left Bush and the Republicans a surplus . No regulation John Mccain and his economic advisor Phil Gramm left us with no regulations ,no money and now a massive deficit and jobless figures creeping up. Four more years of Mccain and Palin and we can all move to Cuba see www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/09/9718mccainlehmancrisisgramm