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Who won the presidential debate?

Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama spent an hour and half debating the financial crisis and foreign affairs on Friday, Sept. 26.

What voters think of their performances could have a big impact on which candidate becomes the next president.

Here’s your chance to give your opinion on who won.           [an error occurred while processing this directive]

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By mwm

September 28, 2008 6:38 PM | Link to this

Bush could not have gotten a security clearance due to his DWI, drug and alcohol use. Republicans have trouble with Obama because he has none of the baggage that McCain and other long term members of congress have. (keating 5 included) So, they attack anyone he may have talked to. If that is the case, Bush would have been flatly denied a security clearance due to his families association with the BinLadin family.

By John Doe

September 28, 2008 6:32 PM | Link to this

If Obama wins we are damned. Putin and Marxism will be here. The communism Russia believes in is really socialism. Ayres will probably be Treasury Secretary. And you Democrats think you have it bad now. Just wait. Only a ja would vote for Osama Obama

By Think about Obama's Background

September 28, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

Folks no one applying for a job with the federal government could get a security clearance with the associations Obama has in his background. His friendship with some of these people would keep him from getting a GS level job. What are you people thinking? You’re going to trust him with the future of this country while he’s friends with a terrorist? Come on. It was cool when he started running, it’s not now. He is the Manchurian candidate if ever there was one.

By GoTigerz

September 28, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

Thanks for that reminder, Valdar. My vet friends tell me the very same. Back to the debates: I’m a communication trainer. I’m a proud product of Ohio’s strong high school and college Speech and Debate system. Today, I work with people who are making presentations, interacting with the media, or preparing to be on-camera. I’m also an Obama supporter. That said, I think it was very clear that Barack was completely comfortable in his space, and tried to engage his opponent by speaking directly to him. Even the moderator encouraged this, as this is what a “debate” should be. McCain, however, was focused on the camera, on delivering his talking-points and, by not making eye contact with his opponent, he gave a couple unfortunate messages: 1) he was not comfortable and therefore afraid of direct address with Barack; 2) he felt that even being on the same stage as Obama was an affront and he could not control his anger; 3) he was unprepared. On those basic “debate skills” alone…Obama won.

By McCain won

September 28, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

I think McCain won hands down and there’s plent of examples of that. I want to know why DDN put “Expert” around the prof’s title, had it been Obama who won, it would have been EXPERT SAYS! all in caps. What’s up with that?

By Valdar

September 28, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

Actually the article was copied from vetvoice.com for those wishing to read the entire article.

By Valdar

September 28, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

Below is copied directly from vetvote.org which is veterans. And my oldest brother, who was a POW with a 100% disability said he would NEVER vote for McCain—before I found his reply strange, but not now. Article: In tonight’s debate John McCain said “I know the veterans, I know them well, and I know that they know that I’ll take care of them, and I have been proud of their support and their recognition of my service to the veterans, and I love them, and I’ll take care of them, and they know that I’ll take care of them.” From Vetvote.org: Truth be told, this is not the case. McCain has a lackluster voting record when it comes to veterans’ issues, and America’s veterans know it. The Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America have given McCain a grade of “D” when it comes to voting in their interest. The Disabled American Veterans have given McCain a 20 percent rating when it comes to voting in the interest of disabled veterans. So citizens of Dayton, please think carefully…do you want 4 more years of Bush/Cheney/Rove? McCain has voted 94% with Bush the last 8 years. And think what the vets are are saying.

By doc

September 28, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

Who won the debate is meaningless. Obama is going to win in November. I’m republican but I can see the hand writing on the wall. Like it or not Bush and Carter are the worst President each party has ever produced.

By GoTigerz

September 28, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

There’s a difference between using the occasional verbalized pause to find the right word, and stuttering and stammering to remember how to pronounce “nuclear.” It’s time we got an educated and literate person into the White House again to, among other things, reestablish Learning as a goal for our children and ourselves—not as something called “elitist.”

By conservativeone

September 28, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

Unbiased, obviously you have not been following this election closely or you would not have made that comment about Obama studdering. All you have to do is listen to him without a teleprompter and the guy can’t get more than a few words out without uh,ah, uh,ahing all over the place! OMG how this man even got to where he is today is beyond my comprehension! He has absolutely no experience whatsoever, he CAN NOT take any criticism whatsoever, he is so self-centered it is unbelievable! My Lord, what I’d give for mainstream media to ask him some really tough questions! This man is unbelievable and his VP nominee is a total loser!

By conservativeone

September 28, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

If America makes the mistake of voting in Obama, then America will get exactly what they deserve! Of course, if he loses, it will turn into a “racial” issue. If he wins, every little critism towards him in office will be a “racial” issue. Go ahead America, vote Obama in office. Allow him to destroy what is left of this great country. Then, in 4 years, hopefully a strong conservative will run, take office and lead America back in the right direction. In the meantime, however, be prepared for the next absolutely horrible four years!

By Vincent

September 28, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Please, my fellow Daytonians and Ohioans don’t let us down again. You can not honestly think McCain is the better candidate for president. Look down deep inside your hearts and your pocket books. Do you make $250K a year or more? No. Do you think that oil companies need another $4billion dollar tax cut on top of there record profits? No. Do you think that all spending on federal programs should be frozen except for defense spending? No. Have these current programs been working? No. Are you better off than you where 8 to 10 years ago? Take a look at your home and property values. This is the leadership we are under now and McCain and the GOP want everything to remain status quo. If McCain is such a good man, and I am not saying he’s not, how come he could not look Barack Obama in the eye while addressing him? McCain knows that Barack is making the the right decisions. Please don’t let your GOP pride hurt me or my fellow Daytonians anymore. I beg you to do the right thing. Barack Obama is certainly a better candidate. His plan is outlined here barackobama.com/plan. It’s a very straight forward plan. Barack Obama is a true american. His father was an immigrant with a funny name like my grandfather and his family. Obama may not have the most experience but, do we need the kind of experience that has led us down the path we are on now. No. No to McCain, No to the GOP, No to big oil and big corparations and No to the republican un-truths. Yes to Obama and Bidden, Yes to to taxcuts for the middle class. Yes lets stop spending $10billion a month in Iraq and spend the money here at home. How much experience did JFK have when he was elected? Who won the debate? Barack Obama I know it and you do too. Thankyou all, I love this city and this state and I want to save it. Don’t let your pride get in the way.

By Luke

September 28, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

The political process has degenerated due to man’s weakness to focus on the drama rather than the issues. Not only is this election about the obvious (war, energy, economy, environment, choice) it’s also about the government’s accountability to its citizens. As Bush/Cheney has stonewalled public oversight into their policies and decisions, so now has McCain/Palin stonewalled the political process in Alaska. The people demand accountability. The people demand truth. The democrats and republicans are short on both, but it’s clear to me there’s only one candidate that will begin restoring the credibility and integrity of this great nation we love so dearly.

By lilmaude

September 28, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

I have a hard time believing a man that sits in a church for 20 years listening to a preacher and have him marry he and his wife and babtise his children then when the preacher is in the spotlight for his horible teachings, Obama decides he didn’t hear any of it and then separates himself from him when it starts hurting his chances to be in the white house. If he can lie about hearing what that man was teaching then what else is he going to lie about? He didn’t look at McCain when he was talking either. He looked at him when McCain was talking. He repeatedly told McCain that he was right…lol McCain was better than Obama and McCain sure didn’t look like an old man in that debate.

By Kenvir

September 28, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

In my opinion neither candidate looked up to par during the debate. And either way we go we’re in for some hard times ahead. I look for one of the candidates to win the popular vote and one to win the Electorial College.

By Paula

September 28, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

With out a doubt it was Barack Obama who won the debate. McCain is pro-war, killing thousands of our children. But pro-life???? He is ready to push that red button. He is an angry man and it shows. How could we trust a man that wouldn’t look at Barack Obama during the debates? Barack isn’t the enemy!! Is this how he will act during a talk with world leaders!!! Just because McCain is a war hero (which I respect) doesn’t give him credence for president. Barack Obama will give you and I the best America possible. He is a very brilliant man. Do your research and you’ll be voting for Barack Obama with me.

By Dan

September 28, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

Valdar I commend you on your statements. I have said this repeatedly on these blogs, only to get responses as to it being someone elses fault. The inability to realize why life in general sucks in Dayton will continue to bring on hard times. I see another article has appeared in todays paper concerning the hardship Dayton homeowners are confronted with. Remember voting by party allegiance doesn’t put money in the bank and food on the table. It will determine the future for you and your family.

By Jim

September 28, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

I felt Obama was nothing but class. He has a clear grasp of the issues facing most Americans, while McCain, who talks a good show, is really out of touch. Look, McCain’s cowboy approach will not work in a global culture.While McCain had some touching stories, they are always looking back at the past. I also look at how McCain has conducted his campaign, and it smells of George Bush. His inner circle, his tactics, his approach, all from Bush’s playbook. The other problem McCain has is Sarah Palin. The Genie comes out of the bottle Thursday night, and McCain’s lack of judgment will be exposed.

By Alice

September 28, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

What is John McCain’s agenda for his presidency? After the debate - is it only to distort Obama’s record and mock him. Why he is so silent about giving details about how he will lead our country?

By lilmaude

September 28, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

What are Obammas changes and how is he going to get all of these changes done? Why is it that everyone is so sure that McCain is going to follow everything that Bush has done. I believe that McCain has went against Bush several times. People are voting for party instead of who will be the most experinced for us. In this day and time voting for party or to make history is a dangerous vote!

By Valdar

September 28, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

Ohio and the citizens of Ohio are hurting with jobs lost, factory closing and the downturn of the economy. Last time, it was the votes from Ohio that extended the rule of Bush/Cheney/Rove. You can decide in November, do you want more of the same with Bush/Cheney/McCain and more jobs lost and more people losing their homes—or, perhaps, just perhaps, vote for a change and hope that Ohio will begin to gain back some jobs. Or we can vote for the same thing that we have had for the last 8 years with continual job lost and more homes lost…we can decide. Let’s hope that we forget party lines and vote for the change that will rid us of the Bush/Cheney/? disaster and begin to gain back some of the pride that Americans have shown in the past.

By lilmaude

September 28, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

This election has become a joke. When you can put a person that has absolutly no experience and stutters when he asked anything of impotance and call him material to run this country. How can he dare to say what our american soldiers needs or don’t need? He has never served in the american service of any branch.Hes not ready! Come back in 10 years and talk to us.

By lilmaude

September 28, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

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By lilmaude

September 28, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

Hmmmm, very interesting thoughts on here. I don’t think either one of them won anything. McCain didn’t look at Obamma but O

By Nikki

September 28, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

John McCain was so rude throughout the entire debate. His defensiveness and disrespectful smirking reminded me of the current pretender & chief. I guess when you know everything and never make any mistakes there is no reason to give anyone else the chance to talk. People are right- McSame…those who agree with keeping things McSame should be embarrassed about there innability to see that things MUST change in all areas of our system for the good of all Americans. To keep things McSame will only perpetuate the ongoing demise of our system and our place in the world. I am ready for innovation and to lead the world in a positive light with hope and prosperity.

By Jayne

September 28, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this

My goodness! If I didn’t know better,from reading this thread I’d think Congressional Democrats and their President nominee, walk on water. I suggest before posting that Republicans blocked every bill beneficial to the human race, you actually study Congressional legislation and voting records. You just might be very surprised AND an informed voter! Regards, A Registered Democrat who votes Independently

By Democratic Party

September 28, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this

hjon, you claim the Dems have tried to pass legislation, but a closer looks reveals that legislation to be radical left wing babble, not bills that help the American public and further the cause of our Republic.

By Derek

September 28, 2008 7:41 AM | Link to this

Barking Spider, perhaps you should cut down on personal attacks, it sure makes you sound like a moron. On topic though, I believe that Obama won the debate. I never saw a superior performance out of McCain throughout the entire debate. I guess if you are devoted to a McCain then I guess he wins everything.

By deb

September 28, 2008 7:24 AM | Link to this

During the Olympics, “Sunday Morning on CBS” had a story about the Haier Corp(electronics/appliances such as microwaves, & fridges) - from China - but run by Americans. They are located in S Carolina and employee over 200,000 people - mainly folks who used to work in the textile industry before these jobs went overseas. The piece ended w/ this statement: “Americans helped to globalize the world, but they forgot to globalize themselves” One of those Ah-Ha moments for me…There is no longer us & them…. I want a President who can help globalize this country….

By Chris

September 28, 2008 3:49 AM | Link to this

The Democrats are in power in the house and the jobs in Dayton still go overseas. John McCain is a true American and will help bring back jobs to the good old USA. McCain/Palin so you can sleep safe at night.

By Barking Spider

September 28, 2008 3:00 AM | Link to this

As totally stupid as the American public is (to elect Bush/Cheney twice), the people of Ohio — the corn hole state — are even dumber. Corn fed bunch of ignorant hicks. Go on and show the rest of the nation how far your heards are up yer @sses, you Buckeyes, and vote republican again. We’re all so very much better off now after 8 years of this loser Failure-in-Chief you gave us. Come on your buncha briars, do it again, make us proud. What a laughing stock of backward ignorance this state is. The whole world is laughing! The whole world is laughing!

By liberal nut

September 28, 2008 12:54 AM | Link to this

OH-MY-*!!!i cannot believe the ignorance/half truths/and just plain bigotry expressed on this string!!!! the question was who did better at the debate.. McCain was disoriented and fixated on only the programs he had been breifed on..whenever a off-subject question came up,he kept hammering the same old retoric-refusing to let obama make his point.. ..i guess we have so many old -white-(german) people in this area,their minds are so closed- they can’t hear anything but what they want to hear..it’s truly sad.. —IT’S NOT A BLACK/WHITE THING,OR A LEFT/RIGHT,LIBERAL/CONCERVATIVE THING,….IT’S A RIGHT/WRONG THING!!!! ..those who want MORE of what we now have-with EVERYTHING about america-the -less-than-beautiful-part,(economy,unemployment,banks,wall street,the auto industry(who should be making the cars we need)then,to bail out wall street,while the c.e.o.’s walk with billions,by all means,give McCain your vote,then we can all meet and roast marshmellows over the coals,after what’s left of america burns to the ground..maybe it’ll even glow?!!

By hjon

September 28, 2008 12:34 AM | Link to this

Eric, Republicans blocked most change legislation including, stem cell research, childrens health insurance, timeline to get out of Iraq several times, alternative energy bill, Immigration bill, 9/11 commission reforms that Bush would not fund and more. Shows how misinformed you are. Democrats tried, republicans blocked, then you say they did nothing.

By Eric

September 28, 2008 12:26 AM | Link to this

First off, I’m not a dumb Hick or a racist if I don’t vote for Obama. I personally am completely disgusted with both parties right now. I wish for one second our politicains would stop pointing fingers and fix something. I am personally voting for McCain. Mainly for one reason. In 2006 the democrats campained on a “change” platform and have done NOTHING. So why should we believe Obama? I’m not voting to elect someone. I’m voting to keep someone out of the White House, which is sad.

By hjon

September 28, 2008 12:19 AM | Link to this

For those who will vote for McCain I’d like to know what you think he will do for you personally to help you. Will he give you a tax cut? Be honest. If you didn’t get much of a tax cut under Bush, Why do you think McCain will be better? Republicans for McCain, do you like paying $4.00 gas, $4.00 milk? Did Bush hit you wallet hard? All you Bush 2004 voters, like what you got? Proud of your vote? What did Bush do for you personally? Willing to make the same mistake again? I’d rather have someone with great ideas as president(Obama) than one with experience(Bush, McCain) who has bad ideas!!

By Obama supporter

September 28, 2008 12:02 AM | Link to this

The debate was a draw or Obama was the winner. McCain seemed cold and did not even look at Obama once. Anyone who thinks McCain won the debate evidently supports the war in Iraq and thinks Iraq is the central front in the war on terrorism. Polls have shown for years that more people want to end the war in Iraq and agree that Afganistan is the central front in the war on terrorism. If McCain won the debate how come almost 80% of Americans think were on the wrong track? Your all voting for McCain just because he’s a republican, not what he will actually do for you, which is nothing, unless your rich or an oil company.

By Alice

September 27, 2008 11:33 PM | Link to this

For the love of God, do the right thing DDN… moderate this site.

By Leslie

September 27, 2008 11:28 PM | Link to this

Good night Ohio. It’s been fun and frustrating but not surprising. The people of Ohio sold their selves to the government years ago, before Bush. I am not from Ohio and never wanted to stay here, but my husband is. He was right it used to be a good state, taxes were reasonable, cost of living was good, and there were a lot of good businesses. But Ohio became a state with the attitude that this was not good enough and started taxing business and citizens til we could not afford anymore. Business started leaving and so did people, even the young. I do not see a change here. I just see more people wanting the government to think for them and take care of them. And apparently this is becoming a national thing. I guess I have to accept and get with it and see what country can offer me the best employment deal. I’m sorry and sad to say that is where we have become. A global community that means you have to look beyond the states and maybe move out of country because all of the jobs are moving out of America. Again good night it has been fun, but sad.

By Jim

September 27, 2008 11:26 PM | Link to this

”. vote right vote white vote McCain” (God’s gift to humanity) It seems this guy pretty well sums up what it means to be a Republican.

By God's gift to humanity

September 27, 2008 10:58 PM | Link to this

For the love of God, do the right thing Ohio…. vote right vote white vote McCain

By Leslie

September 27, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this

We do everything we can to extend life. The American population is scared of death. We spend billions in research to keep us alive and then all we do is disrespect our elders. We leave them hanging out to dry. When you democrats make you disgusting comments about McCains age you are not being what the democrats supposedly represent. You are disrespecting your elders. Through this election I have seen so much about race discrimination and how horrible. But the old age comments about McCain are ok. I don’t get it. I guess I am like McCain I don’t get it. I studied the Japanese culture in college. I respect the Japanese culture. They have great respect for their elders. The knowledge and experience of their elders the Japanese respect, but in America as much as we protest we severly disrespect our elders. The native Americans respected their elders. I am 48 and my father is 77. Obama is 47 and McCain is 72 so know it is not Grandpa it is father.

By Luke

September 27, 2008 10:30 PM | Link to this

More like Father and great, great, great, great, grand pappy. McCain is reliving the cold war. He certainly does know those iron curtain characters well. Why is it that if you’re unhappy with Bush and tired of American falling apart you’re all of a sudden an America hater? And sorry if I’m not a zenophobe trying to pass the blame of Wall Street and the Govt onto the poorest population in our country. Republican politician’s love illegal immigrants. They can spew all their hate towards them while the US economy gains from their contributions, which includes over $400 billion to the US GDP and $9 billion to Social Security yearly.

By fromohio

September 27, 2008 10:26 PM | Link to this

Ohio voted for Bush twice. So, don’t be surprised that this state will be the laughing stock again by giving the white house to Mcain despite its desastrous situation. Shame on us.

By Leslie

September 27, 2008 9:59 PM | Link to this

The debates were like watching father and son. You had McCain the father, with the little smiles as the young kid talked. Knowing what the kid was talking about because at one time he too was young and believed. Then there was Obama showing that teenage frustration from not being listened to and believed. But the father came back, son I understand I too believed once, but that is not reality. Here is where we are and this is what we need to do. I know what you think and that is great, but let’s do this first and then we can move forward from there.

By Leslie

September 27, 2008 9:47 PM | Link to this

max - oz, if that’s the case why are so many people flooding to get here? Why do we have a 40 million illegal immigration population problem? Why is our goverment ready to give 150 million visas to foreigners wanting to come to America? What country do you come from because we will be happy to send all the American hating people living in our country to yours? Country first get rid of all that does not believe in America and the American dream.

By max - oz

September 27, 2008 9:25 PM | Link to this

Is America now just full of hicks?? Reading these comments is rediculous!! If Obama doesn’t win this election by 20 points, you hillbillies don’t deserve him. Get your kids off the Playstation and start reading books as you guys are getting dumber by the minute! I’m embarrassed for the educated Americans who don’t have sex with their siblings… you can move over here if it gets any worse. We generally vote for the smart guy and our economy is fine. Doors open!

By max - oz

September 27, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this

Is America now just full of hicks?? Reading these comments is rediculous!! If Obama doesn’t win this election by 20 points, you hillbillies don’t deserve him. Get your kids off the Playstation and start reading books as you guys are getting dumber by the minute! I’m embarrassed for the educated Americans who don’t have sex with their siblings… you can move over here if it gets any worse. We generally vote for the smart guy and our economy is fine. Doors open!

By Harry

September 27, 2008 9:17 PM | Link to this

I am a Rep.I’ve seen enough in 8 years to convince me enough is enough. I see folks my age, 3 yrs from paying off a home, losing their jobs, scrimping on 2-3 min wage jobs, zero health care and no $$$ to afford $1200 COBRA per month. McCain is too far up the rest of Washingtons a*s for me to trust another Rep. my vote goes to Obama, it is time to give someone else a chance to make our lives better.

By Jim

September 27, 2008 9:09 PM | Link to this

” to call Senator McCain by his first name, and most noticably he called President Bush “your President, instead of “the President” or “our President.”(Country First”. Isn’t it strange that this point seems to bother Country First but Bush and McCain bringing the country to the brink of economic ruin and treating the Constitution as a dishrag and while they had nothing else to do, they managed to kill 4100 fine young men for no reason at all, this doesn’t seem to bother Country First. So Country first says: “He lacks protocol - not ready to lead.” Seems to me that Sen. Obama can lead us anywhere and he has the right or call McCain and Bush lying murderers if he wants. They should be called what they are.

By GQ

September 27, 2008 9:03 PM | Link to this

Earlier today, I asked that those who are Obama supporters, who were ‘only’ repeating the same party line that they reconsider their position. So here is my next question: If one attends a church for 20 years, does that mean that you are in agreement with the teachings of that church? Many of us Christians, who have lived around the country, often times switch churches when the preaching conflicts with our moral core. You know – if the preacher or pastor does not abide by the ‘Golden Rule of the New Testament’ or the 10 Commandments of the Old testament, we move on and pray for those are being led by those who do not follow in the steps of Christ. Well let’s consider the base teachings that attracted and kept Obama coming back, and where he had his children baptized. “While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism.” [Black Theology and Black Power, p. 15] “…What we need is the divine love as expressed in black power, which is the power of blacks to destroy their oppressors, here and now, by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject God’s love.” [A Black Theology of Liberation, p. 70] So I ask again: If one attends a church for 20 years, does that mean that you are in agreement with the teachings of that church? Maybe we need to ask Obama if these were the teachings that make up his moral code?

By Country_First

September 27, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this

In addition to listening to a candidate’s position on important issues, I also pay attention to the candidate’s mannerisms. It is part of my own formula in deciding whether a candidate will earn my vote.

By Amy

September 27, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this

Newsflash! McCain campaign reports: “Palin win’s VP debate!” It was nice of John to join Obama and Jim last night. Is this blog about the debate or is it a pissing contest? For some, I wonder if there isn’t a better outlet for bigoted, illogical, paranoid, discourse. As with the typical conspiracy theorist, many of you can pat yourselves on the back and celebrate uncovering such great perplexing mysteries. What’s next? Obama is an alien sent from the Lord Vader himself to destroy the American way of life? And if you’re wondering, yes, God told me to post this comment.

By Country_First

September 27, 2008 8:36 PM | Link to this

Obama called the moderator by his first name, and one time that was incorrect. He continued to call Senator McCain by his first name, and most noticably he called President Bush “your President, instead of “the President” or “our President.” Wonder if he would do that with world leaders. He lacks protocol….not ready to lead.

By toomuchtv

September 27, 2008 8:09 PM | Link to this

Bristo is a tramp, and she does not have a clue who the baby daddy. mccain’s hand won’t reach his heart, the troll. Sara-please don’t name the grandbaby, those ghetto names you use make no sense. are you still smoking weed, get some more relevant education b/f running for veep.

By Leslie

September 27, 2008 8:06 PM | Link to this

Obama’s foreign policy: 1st Meet with President of Mexico. I am so sorry and embarrassed of my white ancestors for stealing your land and raping your women. I give you California, Texas, Arizona, Nevada, and New Mexico. Let me know what other states you want and I will immediately evacuate all Americans from those states as well and those states will be yours. 2. Meet with Chavez. I am so sorry. I come from a disgusting country that is vile and we kill woman and children for no reason. What can I do for you to make you like America again? How much would you like for that oil? You just say the word I will do anything for you, because we have been so bad and mean to you. 3. Meet with Leader of Iran. I am so sorry. I come from a disgusting terrorist country. We kill women and children and steal for our own greed. What can I do for you to make you like me? You want Israel? You can have it. What else? Just say the word and it is yours? 4. Meet with Russia. I am so sorry. My white ancestors were horrible people and I come from a disgusting country that continues to hold you back. You should have used the bomb on them. I love the communist fundamentals. The wealthy will support America and we will not have any labor classes just a pool of laborers to do your bidding. As long as they don’t have to pay taxes the little people are happy. I would like you to help me model this new America. They are lazy greedy people that will be fine as long as we take care of them, nothing special just give them what they need TV, internet, food, shelter and they will work for us. We will then be able to talk with other countries, you know China will be on board. Look how disciplined China has their people. With this control we will be world leaders and we will be the future! 4. Meet with Africa Honey I’m home! Everything worked out well. I broke up America. I control the world now. Sit back relax I’ll be shipping you servants soon.

By Karyn

September 27, 2008 7:59 PM | Link to this

And with that, I’m out. lol.

By Karyn

September 27, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this

Valdar-thank you for enlightening our friend. And your response is exactly what my husband said when I mentioned it to him. Happened when he was in Iraq, only with Bush. “think about it:” Sweetie, thanks, but I don’t need your protection. My brother’s (who also served in the military) is a police officer, and I know many of them in my area. ;) One even lives by me.

By Becky

September 27, 2008 7:18 PM | Link to this

Leslie: He IS doing his job as a presidential candidate. Right now he absolutely has to concentrate on doing everything to beat that nutty old man. There is nothing else more important for him to be doing now. The Senate has been working on this for awhile now without either McCain or McBush and they don’t need their help now,except to cast votes. The Senate has said they don’t want presidential politics injected into the mix and rightly so.

By Leslie

September 27, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

If Obama means well why is he not in Washington doing his job as the Head of the Democratic Party. Why is he not there telling the democrats to quit adding spending to the bail out. The rush for this bail out is for foreign nationals, not for American citizens. The democrats are more worried about how this financial crisis affects the foreigners than the American taxpayers. If Obama was concerned about you he would be talking to that top 10% which are wealthy and have them invest in these failed securities instead he supports the taxpayers to fund this.

By Valdar

September 27, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this

I did some research and found the actual email from Kerns of MTOA—you need to read it. And some other facts: and here is what is said: It is against the military directive for someone active in the military in uniform to appear to be involved in a political event. If there were truly military there and he (Obama) told them they could not be photographed with him, it would be for THEIR protection, not his. And then from the New York Times, Sunday, September 28, 2008: On the heels of a directive to soldiers from America’s top military official to stay out of politics, Senator John McCain acknowledged that his use of Gen. David H. Petraeus’s picture in a fund-raising pitch was not appropriate. And a part of the directive from the Joint Force Quarterly, dated July 2008: From the Chairman: Military Must Stay Apolitical By Adm. Mike Mullen During just about every trip I make to the field and to the fleet, I get asked about the challenges I will face leading the military through this upcoming Presidential transition: the last lines of the directive: Keeping our politics private is a good first step. The only things we should be wearing on our sleeves are our military insignia. Full directive on JCS.MIL

By Lars

September 27, 2008 6:21 PM | Link to this

Come on people…didn’t you pay attention in Government class? Congress is where all the action is! The president can’t do squat without approval from Congress. And if you’ll think for a moment, you’ll remember that the “best of times” recently in our great nation is when Congress is one party and the President is the other party. So if you want things to improve, please consider this when voting.

By Todd

September 27, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

I voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004 and am very sorry I did. What a disappointment! This time I plan to vote for Obama. I’ve been researching where he stands on issues on his website and now this debate made it final. He is much smarter than I thought. He isn’t perfect - I disagree with him on several issues but he is way better than Bush or McCain. McCain kept saying he voted with Bush and campaigned for Bush during the primary to get the base to vote for him. Now that we’re into the general election he keeps talking about how many times he disagreed with Bush. What a phony! He won’t be enough different from Bush to suit me. I think Obama is at least an intelligent man who means well.

By thinkaboutit

September 27, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

To Vader and Karyn, lets not forget that Obama wrote these things in his own book…..Hello,,,”in his own words” thats all the proof I need…

By thinkaboutit

September 27, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

To Vader and Karyn, lets not forget that Obama wrote these things in his own book…..Hello,,,”in his own words” thats all the proof I need…

By thinkaboutit

September 27, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

To Vader and Karyn, lets not forget that Obama wrote these things in his own book…..Hello,,,”in his own words” thats all the proof I need…

By thinkaboutit

September 27, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

Karyn, I very much respect your husband and father as soldiers, and trust me my eyes are wide open especially when im on the street at night protecting our great citizens like you while you sleep making sure Mr. Bad guy does not come into your home and/or being the first person their should you call for help!!!!! Bad things happen to make us appreciate the good things we take for granted….How can you support a man who thinks it would be beneath him to take a picture with your husband or father in uniform. We all are americans first, soldiers/law enforcement officers second.

By thinkaboutit

September 27, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

Karyn, I very much respect your husband and father as soldiers, and trust me my eyes are wide open especially when im on the street at night protecting our great citizens like you while you sleep making sure Mr. Bad guy does not come into your home and/or being the first person their should you call for help!!!!! Bad things happen to make us appreciate the good things we take for granted….How can you support a man who thinks it would be beneath him to take a picture with your husband or father in uniform. We all are americans first, soldiers/law enforcement officers second.

By Valdar

September 27, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this

Thanks Karyn. I was trying to present sites where things can be checked like factchecks.org or snopes.com, but it seems that some do not want to check the facts. No more comments from me, but some people might wish to learn the truth and check some the URL’s listed above. At least we have freedom and choice to vote the way we wish, and to read the books we wish and watch the movies we wish and pray as we wish. Let’s hope that these freedoms do continue and all on here will support that these freedoms do continue.

By thinkabouit

September 27, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this

Karyn, obviously your not reading….I understand you are a republican…I’m defending the fact that you say I’m using some kind of scare tactics,I’m sorry the truth scares you. So I’ll write my point once again and say I don’t have to research something I saw and heard with “my” own eyes and ears….To Karyn, First it is you that needs to research “Snopes.com” are you kidding me!!! I saw the interview with my own eyes and ears with george stephennopolis, (Yes, I know I spelled his last name wrong) and for the thing in Michigan, being a police officer I was disgusted and yes again I was advised by a very reliable source, a fellow LE colleague who was there. So Karyn it is you who needs to wake up!!!! happy researching!!!!! b

By thinkabouit

September 27, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this

Karyn, obviously your not reading….I understand you are a republican…I’m defending the fact that you say I’m using some kind of scare tactics,I’m sorry the truth scares you. So I’ll write my point once again and say I don’t have to research something I saw and heard with “my” own eyes and ears….To Karyn, First it is you that needs to research “Snopes.com” are you kidding me!!! I saw the interview with my own eyes and ears with george stephennopolis, (Yes, I know I spelled his last name wrong) and for the thing in Michigan, being a police officer I was disgusted and yes again I was advised by a very reliable source, a fellow LE colleague who was there. So Karyn it is you who needs to wake up!!!! happy researching!!!!! b

By Karyn

September 27, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

“Think about it:” My eyes are wide open. Maybe yours aren’t, since you seem to have missed where I said I AM A REPUBLICAN!! I also grew up on politics, with a father who was career military, and a husband who has 20 years in, with 3 overseas deployments in the past 8 years. I am just not stupid enough to believe all the conservative slander that goes around without doing some fact checking first. The things you are repeating as Gods truth have been long debunked. I’d rather have people be truly informed than having someone try to scare them into voting for their candidate. McCain has been shown to have lied or stretched the truth numerous times. My husband used to work Republican campaigns and says they’re all liars. ~shrug~ So we do the educated thing and research, not just believe everything that our conservative friends forward in an email that has a milli-grain of truth. And quite frankly, the conservative christians frighten me more than someone whose father was Muslim. I’ve gone to different churches for services several times with friends, and I’m still a Christian.

By Leslie

September 27, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this

Illegal immigrants are a big part of this housing problem. The democrats pushed for legislation that allowed illegal immigrants to buy homes and homes they could not afford. The democrats are holding strong on the bail out, cause they want money to go to the illegal immigrants. So yeah, illegal immigrants do have a lot to do with our financial crisis. The democrats also pushed for legislation to relax regulation on mortgages. You see they think it is discriminatory cause low income people could not afford to buy a house. So they got legislation to make it easier for low income to buy houses they could not afford. Obama and the democrats want the government to buy these houses so that they can give them to illegal immigrants and low income citizens. This will not fix our problem. If you are so ready to give it all away and let the government control your life then lets use the 700 billion of money we don’t even have and buy everybodys house and we can all live for free.

By thinkaboutit

September 27, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

To Vader/Valdor,Did you Know?? when obama was in Michigan he would not get off his bus until secret service told all the law enforcement officers to stand behind his bus so obama was not photographed by the media around any law enforcement and/or military personnel. “WOW” I bet those guys were happy to protect Obama. Did you know? when Obama was on an interview he accidently refered to his religeon as being Islam and then was corrected about his claims to be christian, Obama then says “oh yea thats what I meant” in a another interview he made a statement that he has been to 47 states and he still has one more making it 48 states. (Islam has 48 states, US has 50) you people better wake up and wake up quick your being sold by a smooth talker. If you don’t belive the above, please research it. it’s true. Don’t be sold by the young smooth talker. Not to mention the picture of Obama with Hilary Clinton and Gov. Richardson saluting the flag while Osama is not, refusing to salute the american flag, Wow what a disgrace for a man who wants to represent the same. To those who said Osama Obama has a flag pin,,,give me a break…the man only changes things when he sees the backlash…Come on Nov 4th…let the people speak…I wish I could be with Osama Obama when the room goes quiet….there’s always 2012 bud.

By thinkaboutit

September 27, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

To Vader/Valdor,Did you Know?? when obama was in Michigan he would not get off his bus until secret service told all the law enforcement officers to stand behind his bus so obama was not photographed by the media around any law enforcement and/or military personnel. “WOW” I bet those guys were happy to protect Obama. Did you know? when Obama was on an interview he accidently refered to his religeon as being Islam and then was corrected about his claims to be christian, Obama then says “oh yea thats what I meant” in a another interview he made a statement that he has been to 47 states and he still has one more making it 48 states. (Islam has 48 states, US has 50) you people better wake up and wake up quick your being sold by a smooth talker. If you don’t belive the above, please research it. it’s true. Don’t be sold by the young smooth talker. Not to mention the picture of Obama with Hilary Clinton and Gov. Richardson saluting the flag while Osama is not, refusing to salute the american flag, Wow what a disgrace for a man who wants to represent the same. To those who said Osama Obama has a flag pin,,,give me a break…the man only changes things when he sees the backlash…Come on Nov 4th…let the people speak…I wish I could be with Osama Obama when the room goes quiet….there’s always 2012 bud.

By Jaymo

September 27, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this

Two wars, financial market crashes, education and health care has gone down the crapper, and all some folks care about is religious doctrine and immigrants? Unplug yourselves from fantasy and check your IRA and bank accounts. Unless, of course, you’re one of the 5% of American’s who are so wealthy you haven’t been effected.

By Tom

September 27, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

its a fact that Obama’s dad was a muslim then turned athiest. so he does have muslim in his background.

By Valdar

September 27, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

I cannot believe that these old emails stories originally put out by Obama Haters are still floating about, and some people still believe them and are repeating them. People, if you have received some of these emails and some of this nonsense about Obama being a Moslem, not saluting the flag, taking the flag from his plane, and many other nonsense things like wanting to raise taxes (only on those making over $250,000 and $600,000 per year but lowering on those below $250,000), supporting illegal aliens (McCain and Obama are in almost complete agreement here but McCain sponsored the bill in Congress), etc. All of these can be checked on factcheck.org or other web sites. For example, here is the one on the flag being removed from the plane: Did Obama replace the U.S. flag on the tail of his campaign plane with his campaign symbol? Yes. Obama’s newly designed campaign plane features the campaign’s logo on the tail. However, a larger image of the U.S. flag appears on the sides of the plane. If you wish to vote for McCain, you have that choice, that freedom, but please do not just pass untruths about unless you have checked them out carefully. As good Christians, shouldn’t we always try to put forth the truth? Right?

By Tom

September 27, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

“But then blog was about the debates, not religion….or was I wrong?” you better believe its about religion when you’re thinking of letting a muslim run our country!

By CONNIE

September 27, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

My problem with Obama is that he wants to take care of the people who are losing their houses because they can’t afford them. I don’t want to pay for someone who can’t afford a house because I don’t own a house because i can’t afford it. I don’t live among my means but all these people who want obama wants a hand out and that is the problem with this country. No one has to take responsibility for their mistakes. Remember after socialism is communism. with obama we will become a socialist country.

By Ethel S.

September 27, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this

I am very impressed by the way Sen. McCain covered the national security issues. He has met so many heads of states. But who I am most proud of is the conservative GOP members of Congress who are holding off the biggest most massive bailout of Wall Street the Congress has ever had. I understand that Sen. McCain met with that GOP group prior to coming to the debates because of Sen. McCain’s knowledge and experience of how to stand up for what is right. Wall Street does not need any bailouts paid for by the taxpayers. If this bailout goes through by the Dem. Congress, then Sen. Obama will be unable to deliver on his promises too. That is why experience is so important along with the courage to stand up to special interests for the benefit of us all. Sen. McCain has both the experience and courage to stand up for accountability and responsible spending. I wonder how many of those fat cat Wall Street types graduated from Ivy League schools and how many graduated from state schools? Sen. McCain won the debate because of his command of the issues. And I hope those young GOP members of Congress kept up the good fight against the bailout if we have to pay for it. And Sen. McCain’s example of being a war hero, maverick, and leader is truly inspiring. Vote McCain/Palin.

By thinkaboutit

September 27, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

“Wow” GQ you really ruffled some feathers. I agree with you, Obama is a liar…most politicians are and Mccain probably has lied a time or two. Obama is very open about it and doesn’t do it very well. I only say this how can anyone vote “ever” for a man who will not put his hand on his heart during the star spangled banor or the pledge of allegience, that is “people” the worst show of respect to the men and women who died for our country. Let me say, it is because of those who gave the ultimate sacrifice that we can enjoy everything from our freedom of religeon to posting our opinions as we have done today. lets not forget if it were not for our ancestors who gave all, obama’s daddy may not have been allowed in the U.S. hence he would not have been where he is….he is the biggest racist/hipacrit I have ever seen. I will continue to give money to Mccain and will definitely vote mccain along with my family and extended family…Obama will never win Ohio….

By thinkaboutit

September 27, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

“Wow” GQ you really ruffled some feathers. I agree with you, Obama is a liar…most politicians are and Mccain probably has lied a time or two. Obama is very open about it and doesn’t do it very well. I only say this how can anyone vote “ever” for a man who will not put his hand on his heart during the star spangled banor or the pledge of allegience, that is “people” the worst show of respect to the men and women who died for our country. Let me say, it is because of those who gave the ultimate sacrifice that we can enjoy everything from our freedom of religeon to posting our opinions as we have done today. lets not forget if it were not for our ancestors who gave all, obama’s daddy may not have been allowed in the U.S. hence he would not have been where he is….he is the biggest racist/hipacrit I have ever seen. I will continue to give money to Mccain and will definitely vote mccain along with my family and extended family…Obama will never win Ohio….

By none

September 27, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

“Obama has a flag pin. Where is McCain’s?” Obama wont place his hand over his heart while the national anthem is sung and you’re impressed he has a pin. what do you mean Obama isnt muslim???? do some research! he has muslim in his background.

By CONNIE

September 27, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

My problem with Obama is that he wants to take care of the people who are losing their houses because they can’t afford them. I don’t want to pay for someone who can’t afford a house because I don’t own a house because i can’t afford it. I don’t live among my means but all these people who want obama wants a hand out and that is the problem with this country. No one has to take responsibility for their mistakes. Remember after socialism is communism. with obama we will become a socialist country.

By im voting for McCain

September 27, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

“Obama has a flag pin. Where is McCain’s?” Obama wont place his hand over his heart while the national anthem is sung and you’re impressed he has a pin.

By Valdar

September 27, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

This is to GQ about Obama and his religion and people lying. First, Obama’s religion should not be a factor, but his honest, integrity, dignity and concern for the American People should be concerns. But it is a proven fact that you well know that Obama is a Christian. But I do like your line about someone who repeats a lie time after time until it becomes fact. What do you have to say on McCain’s choice of Palin? What about the lie about the Bridge to Nowhere that she repeats, over and over and over…the first time to the world here in Dayton, Ohio? Or speaking of lying, what about McCain’s lie to David Letterman about leaving immediately for Washington and could not do his interview—but Letterman then showed McCain doing an interview with Couric at the very time McCain was scheduled to do Letterman’s interview. Sure a small lie but still a lie. Obama’s religion should not be mentioned just like Palin’s pastor who is noted for finding and casting out witches, should not be mentioned. One should be careful or one might find that Ms. Palin will cast them into the water. But then blog was about the debates, not religion….or was I wrong?

By Leslie

September 27, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

Latest news - the democrats are still holding onto bail out money going to community housing organizations, LaRaza and ACORN. Democrats refuse to give up giving illegal aliens housing. I was a poor single mother that worked her way to middle class. I guess that was a waste of my time. I should have stayed poor and waited for the democrats and Obama to come along and give me give my a home. I guess I will just stop paying my mortgage. Everybody don’t pay your mortage Obama and the democrats will take care of you.

By Paul

September 27, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

Sorry GQ, your duplicate posts are what’s repetitious. You and McCain can lecture all you want from your easy chair while Obama leads this country out of the depths of despair Bush has brought us to.

By Becky

September 27, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

GQ: For pete’s sake! Who cares what his religion is? Why waste your time with that old, outmoded argument??? Only people who already think like you will agree with you. The people who know better will not be convinced by your ridiculous reasoning. Aren’t there some issues about the 2 candidates you could discuss?

By Mom

September 27, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

According to the polls done after the debate more undecided voters moved to Obama than McCain. Many said their opinion of him improved. I think that’s because not that many people get out to rallies or pay much attention to politics so they had no idea of Obama’s ideas or his intelligence. This debate did Obama a lot of good and I expect to see him even more ahead in the polls in the next few days. I’m a 61 year old white woman in the Belmont area of Dayton so I suppose I’m in the minority in voting for Obama in my neighborhood.

By GQ

September 27, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this

So in order to break through to those on this blog, I am going to build up to a point. <> Those supporting Obama are repetitious which indicates a lack of original thought. <> As a businessman traveling to communist China – those in power, both at the managerial level or in government must repeat the party line. (period! or else) <> So too it seems those here are repeating a story until so many start using it until it becomes fact. If all are liars, who should we trust? So let’s find one liar, and the rest can hide their heads in shame. Here is the simple question to those that claim Obama was not raised a Muslim… was Obama raised a Muslim or a Christian? The liar in the blog dispels the truth of his Muslim upbringing by saying he also went to a Catholic school. In his book, he says he went to the Mosque to pray with his friends – BUT nowhere do you read that he went to a Catholic service or received any of the sacraments. In a catholic school, a non-catholic is not allowed to participate in those events in rituals, whereas Obama participated in Muslim tradition in a Muslim manner. And as for Dr. Cole’s version of Christianity – it too doesn’t pass muster, as it specifically preaches hatred of the white man, and not turning one’s cheek. I hope that if I can convince just one of the blinded then I will have done some good for all.

By GQ

September 27, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this

So in order to break through to those on this blog, I am going to build up to a point. <> Those supporting Obama are repetitious which indicates a lack of original thought. <> As a businessman traveling to communist China – those in power, both at the managerial level or in government must repeat the party line. (period! or else) <> So too it seems those here are repeating a story until so many start using it until it becomes fact. If all are liars, who should we trust? So let’s find one liar, and the rest can hide their heads in shame. Here is the simple question to those that claim Obama was not raised a Muslim… was Obama raised a Muslim or a Christian? The liar in the blog dispels the truth of his Muslim upbringing by saying he also went to a Catholic school. In his book, he says he went to the Mosque to pray with his friends – BUT nowhere do you read that he went to a Catholic service or received any of the sacraments. In a catholic school, a non-catholic is not allowed to participate in those events in rituals, whereas Obama participated in Muslim tradition in a Muslim manner. And as for Dr. Cole’s version of Christianity – it too doesn’t pass muster, as it specifically preaches hatred of the white man, and not turning one’s cheek. I hope that if I can convince just one of the blinded then I will have done some good for all.

By Valdar

September 27, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

Many people had their minds made up about who won the debate before the debate as McCain’s camp put out in New York….that he had won and it appeared before the debate. But about taxes for corporation…listen to what was said and the get the facts…corporations do not pay the highest taxes here. Jobs move overseas because of hourly salaries, not taxes on corporations. And Obama saying that McCain was/is right on points…well this shows that Obama has character and dignity…two very good characteristics to have in a world leader. Not looking at the other person or providing common support—well, not very dignitified and would not set well when dealing with world leaders. Is it? As the POLLS say, Obama won this debate. And ask the Vets how they feel about McCain..when he mentioned the vets. Ask them.

By Joanie

September 27, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

There was no hands down winner. The McCain supporters think he won, most of the Obama supporters think he won. I am an Obama supporter and the debates didn’t effect my decision. There is much false information posted here and I am not going to bother to point out the many errors, because McOld’s supporters wouldn’t pay any attention. After looking at both candidates’ policies, I simply agree with Obama’s policies and disagree with McSame’s and Bush’s. It’s the undecideds votes who will elect the President and I doubt that this debate decided many people. McBush’s strength is supposedly foreign policy, though Obama held his own,but he is weak in the economy. We’ll see what happens in the next 2 debates and the town hall.

By thinkaboutit

September 27, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

To what, the statement was meant to represent people who have children in either the military or law enforcement. So I meant what I said God Bless our brave men, women, and children in military and/or law enforcment. It’s a pretty simple statement actually, i’m sorry you had trouble getting the point. next time i’ll send you a coloring book.

By thinkaboutit

September 27, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

To what, the statement was meant to represent people who have children in either the military or law enforcement. So I meant what I said God Bless our brave men, women, and children in military and/or law enforcment. It’s a pretty simple statement actually, i’m sorry you had trouble getting the point. next time i’ll send you a coloring book.

By what?

September 27, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

yes, thinkaboutit. god bless our children in uniform. not only military children, but police children as well. wait, what?!?

By Butler County Dem

September 27, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

Ah! Thank god outside of this area the nation has moved into the 21st Century and understands that change and diversity are healthy for a society. So much for this sorry place being a bellwether of anything but limited minds intent on maintaining a status quo that no longer exits! Viva Obama!

By thinkaboutit

September 27, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

To Donna, appology accepted, I respect your honesty, sometimes our words get little mis construed. you bring up some good issues. I hope everyone else can stay focused on the issues, and vote your conscience. What a powerful thing we have in voting, which is and always will be protected by men, women and children in uniform not only military but also our brave men and women in law enforcement. God bless the U.S.A….

By thinkaboutit

September 27, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

To Donna, appology accepted, I respect your honesty, sometimes our words get little mis construed. you bring up some good issues. I hope everyone else can stay focused on the issues, and vote your conscience. What a powerful thing we have in voting, which is and always will be protected by men, women and children in uniform not only military but also our brave men and women in law enforcement. God bless the U.S.A….

By Donna

September 27, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

I am sorry I came across as using the race card, I am a white middle class american female who meant to address those who cannot see pass color. I can. Also I would like to comment that Obama’s four items that have been introduced in this bailout plan protecting our middle class in America has been used as the basis in this bailout plan which was brought up in the debate, and yes that shows he has a voice in Washington and with the finalizing of this vote.

By thinkaboutit

September 27, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

To Julie, please read closer or a little slower, I meant minority as far as the people blogging believe obama or Mccain won the debate, it was not racial minority, although we see where your head is way to make yourself look silly….

By thinkaboutit

September 27, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

To Julie, please read closer or a little slower, I meant minority as far as the people blogging believe obama or Mccain won the debate, it was not racial minority, although we see where your head is way to make yourself look silly….

By Laura

September 27, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

Obama clearly won the debate last night because he addressed the problems facing our country unlike his opponent who just talked about his military service and how he is going to cut spending. I think we need a change in this country for the better because I have a teenage daughter who is going to be going off to college in four years and I am concerned about the cost of college. As a volunteer for Obama’s campaign, I am going to do everything I can to get him elected president in November.

By CONNIE

September 27, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

Did any of you in dayton hear what McCain said about lowering the tax on big corporation because now they are paying 35% tax and he would lower it to 11% why so that the jobs stay here in the USA not overseas as where they are going now. Big companies save money on taxes they will bring more jobs to this country. But you tax them like Obama wants and there won’t be any jobs here they all will be overseas. But people just here Obama talk about the middle class-there won’t be middle class but just people on the unemployment lines. Vote McCain and the reason he didn’t look at Obama last night was because Obama couldn’t call him by his name. But Obama did say 8-10 times that John was right. Obama is going to help anyone he is the 2nd highest campainer to receive money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and these 2 companies are getting bailed out by us but the money went into Obama and Sen Dodd pockets. Please people wake up.

By Paula

September 27, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

Obama won the debate.He showed he can reach across the aisle by acknowledging a few statements where he could agree with his opponents view.He looked his opponent in the eye with dignity and yet respect.He voiced his opinions and backed them up with substance in his answers.He spelled out his ideas of inclusion that are needed in the bailout.He had a Presidential temperment throughout.McCain blew it big time.

By Julie

September 27, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

thinkaboutit, I’m a white, middle-aged female and I think Obama won the debate. I’m not a minority.

By Steven Cordeaux

September 27, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

I love the race card being used. Blacks have used this crutch for decades and I am sorry friends, but it’s a tired act. I will not vote for Obama and it has nothing to do with race. Obama embraces Marxist philosophies, and that is a VERY scary thing. If Colin Powell, Condi Rice, or Herman Cain were running I would vote for them at the drop of a hat. So muchg for the race theory. I guess if you don’t vote for McCain you are a racist and an age bigot.

By thinkaboutit

September 27, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

I can see why you people who represent the minority on this blog, would say Obama won the debate, I think he should win every debate his best contribution to this election is talk. He is all talk, Mccain was the one who said hey wait minute we need to ack on this stock market crisis and immediately got involved, Obama was the “call me if you need me” guy. Hello Obama we need you “DA”. Maybe they can give him a bat signal or something so he knows when to show up for work…Obama= Talk,Talk and more Talk. Heck I remember some of the most popular guys in high school were the ones who threw a good party!!! look at them now!! Obama thows a good party whith music and all, lets see him do his job, like Mccain.

By thinkaboutit

September 27, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

I can see why you people who represent the minority on this blog, would say Obama won the debate, I think he should win every debate his best contribution to this election is talk. He is all talk, Mccain was the one who said hey wait minute we need to ack on this stock market crisis and immediately got involved, Obama was the “call me if you need me” guy. Hello Obama we need you “DA”. Maybe they can give him a bat signal or something so he knows when to show up for work…Obama= Talk,Talk and more Talk. Heck I remember some of the most popular guys in high school were the ones who threw a good party!!! look at them now!! Obama thows a good party whith music and all, lets see him do his job, like Mccain.

By Garland Kramer

September 27, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

dag1312: Dayton is in ruins because of our ignorant, do nothing, Democrat mayor. The woman is more concerned with buying goofy hats then she is running the city. Do we really want a president that will do to America what McClin has done to Dayton? I think not. Obama is a token black candidate with no real ideas or direction. The middle class cannot afford to vote for a man who will raise our taxes. A vote for Obama, is a vote for the death of this country.

By Leslie

September 27, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

Why does someone always have to throw out race. If you don’t support Obama you must be racist, it certainly can’t be because you don’t agree with him. This man is not a uniter. Look what has been happening. You can’t disagree with Obama or you are racist. You can’t have an opinion against Obama or you are racist. Yeah he is really uniting us. Did he unite congress on the bailout plan? Has Obama even tried? NO!!!! Why does he not show us that he is a uniter? Now is the time to show his ability, but where is he? He is the head of the democratic party, why is he not there working to get them to compromise? Is it because he does not want to compromise. Obama’s way or the highway?

By thinkaboutit

September 27, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

To Donna, your are the first on this blog to make this a race issue!!!! it’s not about race if Colin Powell was running I would vote ten times for him. The problem is that everyone on this blog has brought up some really good points for both sides. But your scared and have nothing to really say to support your views, so you make it racial, I agree with you after 232 years to be exact it is ashame that you would float the race card….

By thinkaboutit

September 27, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

To Donna, your are the first on this blog to make this a race issue!!!! it’s not about race if Colin Powell was running I would vote ten times for him. The problem is that everyone on this blog has brought up some really good points for both sides. But your scared and have nothing to really say to support your views, so you make it racial, I agree with you after 232 years to be exact it is ashame that you would float the race card….

By Larry

September 27, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

Alice, I most certianly was leaning toard Senator Obama up until this weeks happenings. For some reason I couldn’t even convince my parents I was leaning toard Senator Obama because we NEED something different in order to have a different result. I thought Senator Obama was that person. He, unfortunatly, has not shown that in the passed week.

By Alice

September 27, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this

Sorry, Larry, your most recent statement just made it clear that you were never on the fence leaning towards Obama, just the same Republican BS trying to appear to be independent on a message board. Further, it is more respectful to look someone in the eyes and call them by their name.

By karon

September 27, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

If you like war vote for Mcain and Palin! If you are concerned about your job please vote OBAMA!

By Donna

September 27, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

The bottom line is this after 200 years in our country we still have bigets who do not appreciate the fact that Obama is not only ready to run our country, but is respected in our country and won the debate against a man who could not even look him in the eye while he shook his hand, or at anytime. I am ashamed after 200 years we cannot see beyond color when most of our children can.

By Larry

September 27, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

Sorry, Allice, it is about Respect and who has accomplished working across the isle. Not someone who has no record, or doesn’t want anyone to know it, so will only vote Present instead of taking a stand one the positive or negative side of an issue. It isn’t enough to just tell the world you are present in the White House. Someone like Senator McCain HAS made the difficult, and sometimes unpopular, decisions. Senator Obama has no record, only a speach on what he would do. Not to mention he was not able to state what he would cut in this difficult economic time out of his budget. Senator McCain was able to name multiple programs. It was bold and not all so popular.

By Gary

September 27, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

Teacher - Please get your facts straight. Obama is not a muslim. There is too much misinformation going around this election. Speak to the real facts.

By Alice

September 27, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

The bottom line is this - the stronger Obama gets in this race the more paranoid delusional neurotics will be on this board spouting more fear-driven bigotry against muslims using BS to label the opposition as terrorist/socialist/communist/marxist/liberal eastern elitist. It always come back to this when they don’t have anything substantial to argue: call him a muslim and/or terrorist and blame the media.

By teacher

September 27, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

The bottom line is this….is this country ready for a muslim leader????? They hate everyone, even other muslims. The Christians and Jews are just the first ethnic groups that they would like to eradicate.

By Larry

September 27, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

I was on the fence leaning toward Obama since his sweeping victory in the primary. This first debate and the happenings leading up to it have given me more to think about. As I see it, Senator McCain has it together. He knows when to focus on the important items of the day (proper/good plan to correct many years of lax enforcement of regulations in the mortgage industy) Senator McCain was respectfull while Senator Obama did not show Senator McCain any respect by talking to him by his first name. Get with it my fellow Americans. We can’t have someone as President of the USA who is so arrogant as to not give the respect a person deserves. Will he be calling presidents of other nations by their first names also?

By Alice

September 27, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

Hardly God’s Gift: Did you even see the aftermath of Katrina? Maybe it has something to do with unequal opportunity in America. I could list pay scales too - if white males tend to have higher pay for the same jobs, does that mean they’re smarter than everyone else????

By Alice

September 27, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

Hardly God’s Gift: Did you even see the aftermath of Katrina? Maybe it has something to do with unequal opportunity in America. I could list pay scales too - if white males tend to have higher pay for the same jobs, does that mean they’re smarter than everyone else????

By God's gift to humanity

September 27, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

Karyn - Did you know that blacks make up 13% of the population and yet they account for 37.2% of the welfare recipients? Whites are only slightly ahead at 38.8% What does that tell you? VOTE MCCAIN!!

By Mark

September 27, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

Obama did a great job of calling McCain on his false facts. Obama look cool and collected and did not let McCain’s digs get to him he just kept to his message; You like the last 8 years, you better off now then you were 8 years ago? Then vote for McCain if not then choose Obama. Keep it up Obama, next up Palin and Biden, can’t wait to see that one.

By Mom

September 27, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

Did anyone else notice when McCain was struggling to say Ahmadinejad’s name Obama quietly said “That’s a tough one”. Even in a debate Obama showed respect and empathy for his opponent. Same thing when he looked directly at him when he spoke to him. McCain never once looked at Obama during the debate. Now think of each of them negotiating with a world leader. Who do you think would get the best results - the guy who is so mad and disrespectful he can’t even look at his opponent or the one who tries to lay a common groundwork for agreement even while disagreeing? I was on the fence but Obama blew me away. McCain would be as dangerous as Bush. Please, folks, no more Bush or Bush-like.

By thinkaboutit

September 27, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

To Karyn, First it is you that needs to research “Snopes.com” are you kidding me!!! I saw the interview with my own eyes and ears with george stephennopolis, (Yes, I know I spelled his last name wrong) and for the thing in Michigan, being a police officer I was disgusted and yes again I was advised by a very reliable source, a fellow LE colleague who was there. So Karyn it is you who needs to wake up!!!! happy researching!!!!!

By Karyn

September 27, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Think about it: Do you even read Snopes.com? The Islam/Muslim thing was proven false long ago. Trying to incite fear in people is not the way to win people over to McCain. I’m Republican and I can’t believe the crap that some of you other republicans believe.

By zaxl

September 27, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

McCain had a strong emotional appeal, especially for veterans, to whom he directed much of his attention. However, he did a poor job at courting independents and swing voters, which is what he needs to do to win in November. Obama was a little cold, but he knew his facts better and delivered his message clearly. Obama for the win.

By Leslie

September 27, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

I felt both did good. But for me McCain did better. McCain has been there and he has tried to get the parties to work together. With McCain as President he will be in the position to get the democrats and republicans to work together. He will finally be able to get people to listen. He will be able to get the proper compromises on bills. McCain does support the military and the veterans if you look at the bills he did not support it was because of the other bloating put in the bills that he could not in all good conscious allow. Remember a bill rarely is about one issue. We are in this economic mess today because of Bush and the democrats. Bush’s baby was the Iraq war and in order to get the democrats to vote on war bills he succumbed to the democrats allowing them to add legislation to give illegals and citizens mortgages they could not afford. Now the democrats are trying to get $600 million for more than 100,000 illegals to keep their homes, as well as the citizens that could not afford their homes. They want to give $600 million of this bailout to La Raza and ACORN. Boehner and McCain are fighting that and Bush wants them to give in. So I ask you, if the democrats are fighting for illegal aliens to own homes and live in them are they representing you? Obama did not feel he needed to be there because he supports that. So is that the change we want? Is that Obama’s foreign policy? So do we in Ohio want to fill all of our vacant houses by giving them to illegal aliens? They also want to help the foreign nationals that have invested in our country. What! People we have been sold. McCain wants to bring us back to the fundamentals of our forefathers and Obama wants us to feel quilty and be ashamed of our forefathers. We are the only people not allowed to be proud of our country. We are told we have no country we stole it. Obama and the democrats apparently feel we are evil and have no right to this country. So I ask you do you know what country you belong to if not America? Are we the people of no country. If your history embarrasses you and you are ashamed then vote Obama.

By thinkaboutit

September 27, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

Did you Know?? when obama was in Michigan he would not get off his bus until secret service told all the law enforcement officers to stand behind his bus so obama was not photographed by the media around any law enforcement and/or military personnel. “WOW” I bet those guys were happy to protect Obama. Did you know? when Obama was on an interview he accidently refered to his religeon as being Islam and then was corrected about his claims to be christian, Obama then says “oh yea thats what I meant” in a another interview he made a statement that he has been to 47 states and he still has one more making it 48 states. (Islam has 48 states, US has 50) you people better wake up and wake up quick your being sold by a smooth talker. If you don’t belive the above, please research it. it’s true. Don’t be sold by the young smooth talker.

By Lee

September 27, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

Obama is a pathetic empty suit who is being propped up by radical leftists. The “curtin” has been pulled open on this modern day “wizard of oz”…an empty Icon. Wake up America!

By Dea

September 27, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

Thank you Tony I so agree Poor James doesn’t know the difference between Osama and Obama that is frightening. Is there any reason why a Harvard Law graduate whose father was from Kenya went to help on the south side of Chicago (ever been there?) to help people and can get no resect from so many? I believe that Obama will be the next President and lead this country in to a place we need to be proud and strong and those who cast a vote for McCain hold onto out dated ideas that beat a horse to death and have proven are not working. The mentality that communication is useless with other human beings is very stubbornly asserted by McCain. Great leaders are able to wrap there minds around the future and McCain just wants to storytell about the past. It no longer applies. Can anyone say Time for Change?

By Mack

September 27, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

They’re both the same. I’m voting Libertarian. I’m making a rebel stand.

By james

September 27, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

Its not even a debate who won. Mccain held his own for 45 minutes covering the economy and shocked me back to childhood on how experience and knowledgable and passionate he is in foreign affairs. Obama did not stand a chance and it was uncomfortable to see how so out of his league obama was on so many international topics. Also, I caught something very disturbing that no one has brought up…Obama stated that we aka, the US need to give Iraq back its country. Is he implying that our troops are dying over there to steal a country? btw, this is the very line that aqueda and osama has used in their video tapes…what’s up? I’m not sure i want a president that will regurgitate the same views as osama…considered that the man killed about 3000 innocent americans in the hearts of our cities.

By Pat

September 27, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

Obama didn’t look too intelligent when he had to read the name of the fallen soldier off his bracelet because he could not remember the hero’s name. Not commander-in-chief material.

By james

September 27, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

Its not even a debate who won. Mccain held his own for 45 minutes covering the economy and shocked me back to childhood on how experience and knowledgable and passionate he is in foreign affairs. Obama did not stand a chance and it was uncomfortable to see how so out of his league obama was on so many international topics. Also, I caught something very disturbing that no one has brought up…Obama stated that we aka, the US need to give Iraq back its country. Is he implying that our troops are dying over there to steal a country? btw, this is the very line that aqueda and osama has used in their video tapes…what’s up? I’m not sure i want a president that will regurgitate the same views as osama…considered that the man killed about 3000 innocent americans in the hearts of our cities.

By Jim

September 27, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

Anyone notice how Obama once called McCain “Tom” and then again later he called him “Jim”?

By God's gift to humanity

September 27, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

Julie, do you know why NObama didn’t say anything new? Because he doesn’t know what he’s doing! He’s not qualified to run a city, let alone a country. You know what’s right. Vote McCain!!

By Karyn

September 27, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

Hey God’s gift to mankind: the majority of welfare recipients are white. Do some research instead of running your racist mouth.

By Julie

September 27, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

I was waiting for McCain to say something new. Nothing, same old tired stories. Obama came across as the more intelligent of the two.

By Tony

September 27, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

After reading these comments I can not belive all these people saw the same debate that I watched. I find it very frightning that people with this level of intelligence are allowed to vote. McCain sounded like a bumper sticker ad man with no real substance to any of his comments. Obama won the debate!

By dag1312

September 27, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

The people of Dayton are so hillarious. The city is in ruins b/c so many jobs have left and will keep leaving. There are numerours posts on here attacking Obama for race and religion. Are you kidding. McCain is an ADULTER and is no more a Christian than a man on the moon. There are many ways to attack BOTH candidates but race and religion ARE NOT IT. The biggest things the people of mDayton should be worried about are the economy and jobs…period. READ the tax proposals. Ask yourselves why your jobs are leaving. None of this has to do with race or religion…its policy. The people who continue to inject race and religion are dispicable. But what else should I expect from the people of Dayton/Ohio. You guys are still trying to fight smoking bans and not having to wear a helmet while riding a motorcycle. Truly UNBELIEVABLE!

By Jaymo

September 27, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

Who won the debate? Whoever’s performance won over voters. Both did fine as far as their bases go. But who won over the undecided? I’m really not sure. It depends on whether the undecided are paying attention or whether they will allow themselves to be swayed by propaganda. As inept as the democratic party is, I find it hard to believe voters can continue to ignore the train wreck the republicans have put America on. I’m getting the sense Obama will take the undecided and third party votes as well.

By Pat

September 27, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

My favorite moment in the debate was when McCain talked about how important the bracelet of a fallen soldier is to him. Then Obama studdered and said like a jealous school boy on the playground…”.ah..I have a bracelet too!” Then he could not remember the fallen soldier’s name and had to read it. Obama is NOT worthy to be commander in chief.

By Pat

September 27, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

Most memorable moment? McCain talked about the bracelet he wears that reminds him of a fallen soldier. Obama studdered around and like a jealous schoolboy on the playground said “but..ah..I have a bracelet too!” Then he forgot the fallen soldier’s name and had to read it. It was so telling - the bracelet is only a prop to Obama who demonstrates NO respect for our soldiers.

By Ken

September 27, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

McCain won hands down. Obama looked angry and defensive as he denied charges that could be proven on tape. Hopefully, McCain will be elected and save our country from this ally of William Ayers (Goodle him)

By Change is Coming

September 27, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

Lynn, the Keating 5 scandal that McCain was a prime player within does indicate at the very least that he is not equipped to handle the complex and delicate economic issues that face our country. He displayed extremely poor judgment that had a negative impact on many (including Middletonians) middle-class Americans. McCain has consistently displayed his disregard for the middle-class (notice that he failed to say middle-class once during the debate). A vote for McCain is a vote for the rich and the greedy; 10+ homes, 14+ cars. I will vote for the person with one car and one house.

By Rob

September 27, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

Is this 2008 or 1984? Voters should use logic and reason to guide them rather than fear and an obedience to a political party that abuses religious faith and man’s weakness of bigotry.

By Warren Wallace

September 27, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

McCain won and he is a true America….

By Lynn

September 27, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

Change is Coming, when you mentioned the Keating Five, you left out the fact that the independent counsel, Democrat Robert Bennett, recommended (after completing his investigation) that John McCain and John Glenn be dropped from the investigation for lack of evidence. The Senate Ethics Committee refused to do so. Both senators were cleared of the charges but were criticized for exercising poor judgment.

By Bully

September 27, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

McCain showed his true temperment last night. Mr. Bully reactive elitist. His emotion was pure anger the whole time. That is what this Country needs a 72 year old time bomb running things. Obama at least showed more respect and thought than McCain. Disrespect toward the American people has been the republican platform for the last 8 years and McCain was 90% behind that. He is an old dog trying new tricks. Look at his choice for VP that is some true thinking. McCain is about Party first, Country second and OHIO dead last.

By Walt

September 27, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

Sorry, I just cannot vote for a candidate that has a “Bucket List” and another Veep who is a “Buckethead” ! ! !

By TRS

September 27, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

Dan - thanks for the clarification. I agree with the change concept; however, I’m not fond of the idea of “changing back”. While recently visiting a friend of mine who deals with financial issues he showed me some Time magizine covers which looked like they were written this year; however, they were from the 70s and the Ford/Carter years. Those were not good times. That is my concern with Obama and the Democrats. If this financial crisis proves anything, where money gathers so does greed and corruption. Obama and the Dems propose that more money be brought into Washington for dispursement to where the politicians believe it should go. Already we have seen them try to seed ACORN, a corrupt organization which has been convicted of vote fraud in several states. That is a disaster waiting to happen. This mess is not a failure of capitalism; rather, government involving itself in it. The government’s hands are all over the Fannie/Freddie mess by requiring a % of subprime loans which drove the market to lend money to those who could not afford it. I don’t doubt the good intentions of the politicians but as the saying goes “the path to hell is paved with good intentions”. Certainly, the free market has its flaws as well; but, it certainly functions with a greater efficiency that the government. Updated oversight is needed but I also fear the Dems will want to overregulate; thus, choking off investment. That has been their pattern when given charge of the country. As for change, today on DirectTV and DISH as well as the internet, American Solutions is bringing forth folks from across the country as well as a few politicians from both parties to discuss some solutions. Some ideas will be on how to reform government to make it better work for us - others will involve the free market. I don’t know what ideas are coming forth but I do believe its worth being open enough to listen.

By Bill Ayers

September 27, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

The only difference between Obama and Osama is the BS. Unless you want higher taxes, the Koran in public schools, christianity outlawed, Al Quaida in our streets your vote should go to John McCain. McCain loves America, Barack Hussein Obama despises America.

By chris

September 27, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

McCain clearly won the debate, Nobama sputtered though looking less then confident. Having lived in Chicago for 14 years, I saw first hand what a “community organizer” can do to harm a city, don’t let it happen to the nation. Best part, when Nobamacouldn’t remember the name on the braclet obviously given to him by a staffer along with a brief bio just prior to the debate. What a joke, he will never be MY president.

By james

September 27, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

Obama supports leaving the war in Iraq which would be a huge mistake, do we really want another 9/11? if we do just vote this idiot in and this is coming from a 25 year old guy who served in Iraq. WE need to saty we odnt need this deaths for nothing and we dont need a war in our backyard. Obama is an idiot and no sense to when a war is necassary. It is necassary and John McCain is Necassary.

By Change is Coming

September 27, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

James: You speak like McCain is the only one with experience. All forms of experience are not positive in shaping how one would operate in future responsibilities. Look critically at McCain’s experiences; what are his experiences with economic facets of government? Keating five ring any bells? Furthermore, last night Obama showed, without doubt, a keen understanding of foreign policy issues that are informed by his experiences. Lastly, the job of the president is to surround themselves with the best and brightest to help inform important decisions. Is Palin the best and brightest in Middletown, much less the United States? Be honest. Rosa, republicans have controlled the executing branch for the last 8 years and the legislative branch for 6 of the last 8 years. Republicans had led us down the road of economic crisis.

By Jeffrey

September 27, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

I was somewhat in favor of Obama before the debate but after seeing them both together it’s definitely Obama for me. McCain is going to keep us in Iraq till he feels we’ve “won”. Obama made some excellent points about how the economy is tied up with the money spent in this war, even aside from the fact that the war is just plain wrong. Plus McCain has an embarrassing running mate. She cannot be allowed to be VP. That can’t happen.

By transplant

September 27, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

Jan, Thank you for listing the educational resumes for the candidates. I am an advocate for education and have three degrees — two of them advanced, including a law degree. As you likely know, educational background does not necessarily translate to being a quality leader. Experience is far more critical — Obama’s inexperience regarding foreign affairs was apparent last night. Obama supporters should be hoping that he gets another chance to show the public that he can lead this country during times of war. Hopefully for Obama, his advisors will prepare him better for the next debate.

By Chris

September 27, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

As people are busy being hateful (see the racist comments being listed) the world continues to be on very unstable ground. It seems to be very inconsistent and hypocritical to say that we live in a Christian society while so many hold racist views. Furthermore, the people who continue to harbor such views continue to hold themselves, their children and their country behind. The epitome of ignorance. Vote for the best candidate, regardless of race.

By James

September 27, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

Becky there is ONE major reason to Vote for John McCain and not Barack Obama..Hes a better candidate. True Mccain does havent the charisma and great speeches but he has one thing that Obama is lacking from the start, experience.

By Becky

September 27, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

Favorite part: the bracelet standoff. McCain always tells that tired old story about his bracelet and about the mother saying to not let her son die in vain. Obama very wisely turned that on its head when he said he had a bracelet from a mother who told him to not let another mother go through what she went through. So McCain’s story is not put to rest. Most focus groups and pundits said Obama won or at least tied McCain in an area where he was supposed to be the best by far. Now there is NO reason not to vote Obama. He showed he’s smarter than McCain.

By sweet

September 27, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

To R J So you are saying that McCain can’t use his fingers..POOR POOR excuse..You are behind times too..How in the H+++ do you think millions of disabled people are able to use and understand how to use the computer.. nonsense !! So you are saying if he can’t use his hands he cannot SIGN any bills that would come across his desk in the White House?? “Oh Honey Honey.. Cindy could you please come here for a minute.. I need you to sign my name on this document”Pleassseee! Get real..You are acting like Bush now..

By Rosa

September 27, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

Ok Obama voters how do you get Bush has ruined the US in the last 8 years. Your Congress makes the decisions and it is a Democratic Majority. Vote in Obama, keep the Democrats in charge and we will all be way worse than we are right now. No jobs, no house and sure hope you can grow your own food!

By Jim

September 27, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

“Military folks will not forget that.”(Pat) I think what military folks won’t forget is that the soldier was dead and his mother asked Sen. Obama to make sure that fate didn’t happen to other soldiers sent to be killed for the lies and the greed and the vanity of people like Bush and McCain. I don’t think military folks will forget that McCanin and Bush were against proper armor and supplies for our troops and against Sen. Webb’s GI Bill for the men that Bush and McCain didn’t care about killing and wounding. I don’t think the military folk will forget that the vast amount of the financial support coming into the Presidential campaigns from the military is going to Sen. Obama. I don’t think the military folk will forget that the VFW and other veterans organizations rate McCain at 20% in handling veteran’s affairs and Sen. Obama at 80%. I don’t think military folk will forget that Sen. Obama wanted to stop the senseless killing before it started, while Sen. McCain wanted it to start and doesn’t care how long it goes on. I think that military folk saw that Sen. Obama was perfectly correct in telling Sen. McCain what McCain did wrong and what Sen. Obama would do to correct Bush and McCain mistakes. I don’t think military folk will forget that 4100 families of military folk are in mourning because of the stupidity and arrogance and incompetence of people like Bush and McCain. And I don’t think military floks will forget that people like Pat didn’t care enough about military families to stop Bush and McCain. Yeh, Pat, Military Folks won’t forget.

By God's gift to mankind

September 27, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

Who really want’s a black president? If that happens, we’ll all eventually have to pay more for the unwed, pregnant black women on welfare. NOBama doesn’t have a clue! DO NOT MAKE A MISTAKE! VOTE MCCAIN!!!!

By Becky

September 27, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

Favorite part: the bracelet standoff. McCain always tells that tired old story about his bracelet and about the mother saying to not let her son die in vain. Obama very wisely turned that on its head when he said he had a bracelet from a mother who told him to not let another mother go through what she went through. So McCain’s story is not put to rest. Most focus groups and pundits said Obama won or at least tied McCain in an area where he was supposed to be the best by far. Now there is NO reason not to vote Obama. He showed he’s smarter than McCain.

By Scott

September 27, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

I was on the fence until last night’s debate and I’m not certain there was a clear winner. However, there was one man who looked optimistic, tried to engage with his opponent before going on the attack, and appeared very presidential. The other candidate spent most of the debate hunched over, looking angry and defensive, and would not even face his opponent. I am leaning towards the formed.

By Julie

September 27, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

What within the McCain/Republican/Bush platform is so attractive to working-class/middle-class people? For the last 8 years we have seen jobs leave Ohio, continual conflict within the world, gas prices explode, home prices crash, price of college increase…nothing that has occurred has improve our lives, our children lives, our parents lives. And now, 8 years later many intend to vote for another 4 years of the same failed Bush policies? Why? Think critically about this…as the quality of our lives will be critically influenced by another bad choice. Vote for Barack Obama.

By Scott

September 27, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

I was on the fence until last night’s debate and I’m not certain there was a clear winner. However, there was one man who looked optimistic, tried to engage with his opponent before going on the attack, and appeared very presidential. The other candidate spent most of the debate hunched over, looking angry and defensive, and would not even face his opponent. I am leaning towards the formed.

By R J..Miamisburg

September 27, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

who ever posted about McCain not knowing how to use a computer, ARE YOU Aware his fingers were broken by the NVA while a POW?? His body was broken , legs every part of his body.. He can’t raise his hands to comb his hair, thus Cindy does it for him each day. THEN you want to complain about not being able to use a computer! PLESSSSSEEEE.. McCain won over all. Pope Barack the First, used the YEARS of Bush is enough line 8 or 9 times last night. WELL Pope Barack, Bush is not running again. WE all don’t have a clue as to what each would bring to the Oval Office. HOWEVER I put it this way McCain-26 years in Congress/Senate-22 years Navy. Barack Obama 3 and a half years in the US Senate-NO Military Service. NOW WHO WOULD YOU WANT to answer the phone at 3 am> Mr Uh uh hmm uh hm uh well I said that Russia should uh uh uh hmm step back and sing Koobbaya with us..? AND he did it in such a forcefull way he is now taking credit for stopping Russia from total taking over of Georiga. I say it in a very strong way he did. Yep Mr Pope Barack the First, . One question, IF Barack wins and screws up the next 4 years, HOW many years would it be before another Black Man would run for Pres? I ask not to make me seem a racist, but to show that Barack if he does win, has to prove anyone can do the job. OK I know that does sound racist, which I am not. It is what people are thinking, I am just saying it.

By God's gift to mankind

September 27, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

Did I hear NObama say “Allah Akbar!” last night?

By Pat

September 27, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

Most memorable quote from the debate? “.ah..ah.. I’ve got a bracelet too…..” Obama could not remember the name of the service man who died. The man’s mother gave the bracelet to Obama BUT Obama does not care enough to even know the man’s name without reading it. Military folks will not forget that.

By Intelligent

September 27, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

You are not right in the head if you actually think McCain will make the country a better place.

By Chris

September 27, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

It is sad to see so many folks think and vote in ways opposite to what is in their best interest. For the last 8 years we have been exploited by a Republican led government. Last night we were able to see hope of change in the words, demeanor and character of Barack Obama. I hope 51% of voting Ohioians see this.

By mwm

September 27, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

McCain is a republican. The republican party is considered to be a pack of liars and criminals this year. In Washington state, Dino Rossi is running for governor.. He is being listed as “GOP” party, versus “Republican” on the ballot. At Rossi’s request and a judges decision. This is an example of how bad the republican title appears to americans. Social conservatives have lost what little clout they had. Socializing Wall Street goes against their ideology. It also make them look hypocritical. The republican stand on foreign policy has been a failure. The evangelicals have also lost respect… Due to their ideology being connected to so many scandals. McCain is in the mindset of staying the course. His views in the debate are from the past and show no future direction for our country. His running mate is a ditz, moreover, she is an ornament with no substance or intelligence. McCain has no concept of the middle class and the problems in society. He is out of touch with the common man. These were debate subjects.

By Roger

September 27, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

Please go to Obama’s official website if you have questions and want real answers. There is a section called debunking the lies—-here is a section on his name and religion. www.barakobama.com Barack Obama has never been Muslim and never practiced Islam. But rumors about his religion intended to frighten some voters persist, and they mostly return to one point of fact: his name. “Barack” is the candidate’s Kenyan father’s name; Obama’s middle name, “Hussein,” is his grandfather’s name. Obama has described his father as atheist or agnostic. His Kansan mom, whose grandparents were devout Protestants, lived a secular life. Obama’s only personal contact with Islam came as a boy when he moved to Jakarta, Indonesia, with a stepfather who mixed his Islam with Hindu and Animist traditions. In five years there, Obama attended a Roman Catholic school, then a public elementary school, where he sat through a class each week of religious studies. As an adult, Obama turned to Christianity in the late ’80s in Chicago, at Trinity United Church of Christ, where he was baptized, married‹and baptized his kids. As a new U.S. senator, Obama took his oath on the family Bible.” Read this Article

By oldertipp

September 27, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

when i look at the ballot this year, i dont think i will see bush on the ticket.nobama and mccain, nobama has nothing new to say uh uh uh and more uh he has done NOTHING to prove he can do antyhing uh uh uh

By Josh

September 27, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this

Before this debate, I was only against Obama. The electoral system, without any doubt, selected the wrong candidates. Now, post-debate it is absolutely crystal clear to me that McCain may actually have a chance, being the more qualified choice of the two. McCain speaks on experience even though both candidates were quick to avoid relevant and pointed questions from Lehrer. If you notice the comments posted below, the Obama supporters really can not back with fact any reason for why Barrack Obama won the debate other than emotions. Obama was stumbling, sweating and did not look as relaxed as McCain. Afghanistan was used as a “blind spot” to leverage his platform as to why American strategists are avoiding the effort against Bin Laden. Who’s blind? He then continues to put national security at risk by ‘placing the Taliban, Bin Laden and Pakistan in our sights and crushing them’. This leaves no room for diplomacy (Reagan’s Peace through Strength) or understanding that the CIA, NSA and other agencies ARE working diligently to thwart further efforts around the globe by Al Qaeda strongholds and the countries that protect the terrorists. I missed the first part of the debate over the National Crisis on Wall Street- but it was more than enough to see the last 75 minutes of the debacle instigating blame game tactics against other politicos and non-mercenaries. I actually wondered halfway through how we could allow such negativity to be conducted between two persons seeking to fill a critical administration that guides the fate of the Country over the next four years. I will still vote against taxes and bigger government. After all, it really is not in the best interest of our fellow Americans or our Constitution to have our government determine our level of health care nor that taxpayers will pay for mistakes of financial institutions. Last time I checked, we are still better off than nearly every country on this planet. All because of our Capitalist Constitution and great Human Rights. Keep us free and leave us with our own decisions to determine who gets our hard earned money.

By truth

September 27, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

Ann, Carter 1977…Clinton 1995. That’s the reason we are in the mess we are today with subprime lending. Do some research.

By Jan

September 27, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

Educational backgrounds for all 4 candidates: OBAMA spent 2 years studying Politics and Public Policy in LA at Occidental College; received a B.A. in Political Science with a specialization in International Relations in NY from Columbia University; and finally from Harvard University he received a Juris Doctor, J.D., Magna C*m Laude, and was also Editor-in-Chief of the Harvard Law Review. BIDEN received a B.A. in History and a B.A. in Political Science from the University of Deleware, and also received a Juris Doctor, J.D., from the Syracuse University College of Law. McCAIN attended the United States Naval Academy, finishing with a class ranking of 894 of 899. PALIN attended Hawaii Pacific University for 1 semester, studying Business Administration; attended 2 semesters at North Idaho College in General Studies; attended the University of Idaho for 2 semesters studying Journalism; attended Matanuska-Susitna College for 1 semester; and finally attended the University of Idaho for 3 semesters, receiving a B.A. in Journalism. In this era of education being so important, it’s a clear choice for me.

By Ann Coulter

September 27, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

McCain won the debate, barely. He could have taken Obama an the Dems apart of the analogy the biggest earmark program in history which destroyed the value of every American’s home in the country, was Clinton and the Dems mandating Freddie Mac and Mae have 50% of their loans given to those who used foodstamps and welfare receipts to pay for monthly mortgages they couldn’t afford. It would have been powerful, true, and given him a bounce. I think McCain was calm and very knowledgable on forign affairs, a clear winner there. Obama continually ducked the question on what he’d have to cut in the event the bailout now will limit his funds. He was asked twice, and he skirted the issue, except to ficus on energy. Yet, he said energy was the number 1 priority for rebuilding Michigan and Ohio. Folks, Obama is a con man. A hawk on Pakistan, and a dove on Iran. Wrong position Obama, Israel will react as they know you’ll be talking while a cloud of dust encompasses half the world.

By Hand down

September 27, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

McCain won hands down. I am a twentysomething voting repubican. No way will I be deceived by Obamas lies, scetchy “friendships,” and his scetchy faith. SOmeone said Obama is a baptist - WHAT!?! He is not - those who attend the UCC Church are not also practicing Baptist’s. His faith is so confusing because he is lying about it. Satan is the author of confusion…enough said.

By God's gift to mankind

September 27, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

McCain better win, or we’ll all have to learn to speak arabic. NObama’s father was a radical muslim. And you know how the old saying goes… the apple doesn’t fall from the tree.

By God's gift to mankind

September 27, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

McCain better win, or we’ll all have to learn to speak arabic. NObama’s father was a radical muslim. And you know how the old saying goes… the apple doesn’t fall from the tree.

By Jim

September 27, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this

Obama clearly won on substance and style, but the real test for the McCain camp comes next Thursday when Palin has to face real pitching, not slow pitch Hannity. The Genie will come out of the bottle and the entire country will see that McCain is using Palin to dupe the voter. It took Sarah Palin 6 years to get a 4 year Bachelors Degree and she enrolled into 5 different colleges over 6 years to get it. She definitely is not the best or the brightest that America deserves.

By rickdog

September 27, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

Hands down…McCAIN WON AS HE WILL WIN THIS ELECTION!! Cant wait to see PALIN POWER next week

By ohdave

September 27, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this

One candidate in the debate kept his cool and looked presidential. The other was a snarling mad dog who alternated between smirking and wanting to bite your ear off. He was less erratic than his behavior of the past week, but that’s hardly a victory…he still managed to get easily confused by the names of world leaders and simple facts (the insane warmonger Kissinger DID support direct talks with Iran, despite McCuckoo’s protestations to the contrary, a guy who’s trying to run to the right of the Henry Kissinger on foreign policy???).

By Disgusted

September 27, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this

Barack Hussein Obama isn’t going to change anything. He has no record of accomplishing 1 single piece of relevant legislation in his entire political career. What does the man do? I’ll tell ya what he does. He gives speeches! Other than that he does nothing. The people of Illinois elected him to the Senate, they are paying him a salary, and yet, he doesn’t do anything but talk about what he is going to do. He voted present over one hundred times. What the hell is that? Being present isn’t good enough. Make a decision for christ sakes. Your either for it or against it. The man is an idiot. The dems have been telling poor America for 30 years we are the party that loves you. We are going to give you this, we are going to give you that. Are you people that stupid to keep believing them? This whole economic crisis we are in is the fault of the Democratic Party. They pressured Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to give loans to people they knew couldn’t afford them. Why was the economy so great when Clinton was President. Because we were building millions of homes that people couldn’t afford. Now we are really going to pay for it. Some how though, George Bush will get the blame. Never mind that the Dems are really in control. Was the war in Iraq mismanaged? Yes! We all know it. Get over it. We got bigger problems to deal with at the moment. Our soldiers deserve a United States not a Divided States. If we don’t pull together soon the American way of life is nothing but a footnote in history. Obama is too far to the left to bring us together. McCain is the one in the middle. Quit comparing him to Bush. Bush has been President in some difficult times. I think he has done a pretty good job. Maybe not perfect but he did what he thought was best for our country. He takes more abuse than he deserves. I don’t care what the rest of the world thinks of him. He is our President, not theirs. This country has shown enough restraint overseas. It’s time we really take the gloves off. If we don’t. It’s only a matter of time before a dirty bomb or a real nuke goes off in New York.

By Raoul

September 27, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this

This debate had no clear cut winner. Both candidates did reasonably well. Aside from that, one can get a good glimpse of how America might look if Obama is elected by taking a close look at Dayton. The recent power outage elicited no local leadership from our Mayor, but the gates were flung wide open to all the food stamp ‘victim’s who did not even have to show receipts, or prove thier power was really out. Dayton is known far and wide as the place to go to get food stamps. Go ahead, vote the Democrats in, and you will see such a move towards complete socialism that America will never be the same.

By Conley

September 27, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

To all of those wanting McCain for president, How could you be so nieve to suggest another Bush 4 years in office, something stinks and it’s not fish.

By sweet

September 27, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this

I know that Obama won the debate … The turning point was when McCain was trying to get personal with the soldiers bracelet..But, Obama said I have a bracelet too..( I am in touch with the mothers out there too)..Don’t let my son’s death be in vain vs Don’t let another mom’s son DIE and go what we went through… War vs Peace.. McCain tried to talk about all the countries he had been to.. Trying to impress us..Why did he not even LOOK at Obama?? It was a DEBATE..Was he that afraid??All he could do was say Obama didn’t understand.Well we understand…McCain can’t even get on the computer to see how he is doing in this race! He doesn’t know how!He is so out of touch..We need a change from the same ole stuff..We need Obama..Can’t wait for the next debate to hear from the Moose killin’ Mama !

By Jim

September 27, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this

I thought Obama clearly won on substance and style. He was clear, and had a grasp of all the issues. I don’t believe this a game changer though. The game changer will be next Thursday when Sarah Palin will show the entire country the poor judgment of John McCain in trying to pull a political gimmick. The Genie comes out of the bottle on Palin next Thursday.

By Ron

September 27, 2008 8:03 AM | Link to this

McCain won, and looked Presidental while Obama mumbled a lot. It irked me that the moderator let Obama talk and talk and talk while shutting down McCain.

By barking bulldog

September 27, 2008 8:00 AM | Link to this

Barak Obama was disrepsectful by calling Senator McCain “John”. I am sure that is was a calculated thing to do -either to irritate McCain or to somehow elevate the muslem democrat to McCain’s stature. Just shows you that the Democrats are always needing gimmicks - because they are so far removed from normal society - we’re usually clinging to our guns and religion. To all you life losers who have made bad life choices - drugs, alcohol, undereducated, unmarried pregnancies, lazy slobs - you are the people the democrats pander to. They need you to promote class warfare - because its certainly not your fault that you’re in the position you’re in. Your a victim and the government in its infinite always right policies will help you, cloth you, provide you with “free medical” care, will give you money and housing and life is great because you won’t have to pay for it. You won’t have to contribute in any way to society, you can smoke your cigs and b***h about the “man” whose screwing you and getting “rich” in the process. The Democrats are “takers” that take from the successful and most can never take too much. People our country is in the shape it - because of our federal government. Throw all the bastards out both Republicans and Democrats - but most importantly - elect anybody but Obama. If he calls Senator McCain “John” shall not McCain return the favor and call him by his name “barak hussain obama”? Obama rose through the democratic machine and is a liar to say he will promote change. Our country is destroying itself and he’s only going to accelerate the process.

By Blessed

September 27, 2008 7:54 AM | Link to this

I AM PRAYING THAT OBAMA WILL CONTINUE TO GET THE SUPPORT HE NEEDS TO WIN THIS RACE. MCCAIN IS MORE OF THE SAME GEORGE BUSH, AND WE WILL NOT HAVE IT. FURTHERMORE, ALL OF YOU WHO ARE UNDECIDED OR EVEN BLINDSIDED BETTER WAKE UP. KEEP OBAMA IN PRAYER.

By SC

September 27, 2008 7:42 AM | Link to this

It was so refreshing to listen to a presidential candidate that was articulate, passionate and concerned about the people. Obama will make a wonderful president. One of my favorite parts of the debate was early on when they were debating the economy and Obama pointed out something along the lines of that the economy has been struggling for a long time (which he has been pointing out) if you asked average Americans, but it’s only now when it is squeezing the rich people that we consider it a crisis. He is truly a candidate concerned about the people.

By numbskull72

September 27, 2008 7:41 AM | Link to this

Hey God’s Gift…Do you actually believe what is coming from your keyboard? Support who you wish to support, but Obama is NOT a muslim, he is baptist. Your diatribe just proves how uninformed you are. You look at someone’s name and say “A-HA! Sounds funny to me, he must be Muslim!” If his name was Larry Smith would you be saying this?

By M005E

September 27, 2008 7:36 AM | Link to this

Where you people listening to the save debate? We already know that Obama’s economic policies are anti-capitolism, anti-free market. Now he proved that He does not have a clue about foreign relations. And he IS the most libereal Sentator on the hill.

By hamiltonboy

September 27, 2008 7:35 AM | Link to this

I hope Obama wins we can not afford more of the same Bush polices of the past 8 years, Mccain has bush’s campaign aids leding his campains, the gentelmen who run mccains campaign run big oil companys you decide

By mwm

September 27, 2008 6:56 AM | Link to this

Agree with steve. McCain is using ideas and tactics that are outdated. And, many do remember the failures of VietNam. And, many also are tired of being reminded of McCain being a former POW. It does not matter in this election. Diplomacy is something that has not been used effectively during the Bush failure. And, using lies to start a war, does not help foster good relations. Great Presidents have had the ability to talk to our adversaries. And, strike agreements with them, while protecting our interests. Bush and McCain lack that ability. And, Palin is nothing more than ornamental. Could be used in photo ops but, lacks substance and is inept. The Obama/Biden team will be able to manage our economy, foreign relations and domestic issues properly. Without proper diplomacy, our country will continue to suffer.

By danielle

September 27, 2008 6:53 AM | Link to this

I think hands down John Mcain won the debate. Obama lied way to much about his own previous statements. People do your research. I think Obama was so well prepped that it did not make any sense, because he went against everything he had previously said??

By Steve

September 27, 2008 5:47 AM | Link to this

As an American living and working overseas, I cannot follow the day to day events of the presidential campaign. The debate offered me a great insight to each of the candidates. My opinion is that Obama won the debate on substance and style. McCain, by not looking at his opponent and with some confusing and repetitious answers/comments, did not seem like a leader who could look to the future in a country that needs to prepare for some major changes (structural as middle class jobs continue to be outsourced and financial as we continue with asset sales to pay for consumption in the long term). It is interesting reading all of the comments because as someone who was born, raised and educated in the Midwest and has worked and lived overseas for 15 years of my 30 year professional career, it seems to me that we need a leader that will not think in terms of a military response with every event in the world. Eisenhower was correct that our biggest risk was the military-industrial complex. A strong US economy leads to a powerful nation that in the hearts, minds, souls, strategies and tactics of other world powers (population and leadership). Each of the candidates should realize that “it is the economy stupid” and that wars are inflationary and cheap money (plus non stop printing of new money to finance unnecessary military spending) has caused much of our economic problems today. This administration will go down in history as the most damaging to our economic and political systems every (even beats out Hoover).

By concerned one

September 27, 2008 5:47 AM | Link to this

could Obama have shown his inexperience anymore than he did last night. He may have looked good and handled himself well in the debate, but his answers frankly scare the hell out of me. I bet every terrorist cell in the world is praying he wins.

By Jon

September 27, 2008 5:25 AM | Link to this

I thought both candidates did well in explaining their positions and viewpoints. What continues to concern me though, is how McCain’s foreign policy ideas are so muscular/military based and without any real diplomatic solutions or ideas. If elected, he is going to be George W on steroids on the war front, and thats scary.

By Chris

September 27, 2008 5:10 AM | Link to this

You’ll all be bumping your heads on the floor five times a day if Obama wins. If McCain wins you’ll all be free and safe. McCain/Palin in 08

By Robert

September 27, 2008 4:32 AM | Link to this

Barack Obama clearly won the debate because McCain could not separate himself from the policies of George Bush. The more McCain rambled on while his face twitching at the same time made him appear as an angry old man. And lets face it, he is not pleasant to look at. Saturday Night Live will have a field day.

By Bill

September 27, 2008 4:19 AM | Link to this

As a historic republican, I am saddened by the poor performance of our presidential candidate and especially in his choice for a running mate. I agree that the government needs less regulation in regards to our financial affairs, but they have tragically made all of us worse off over the past several years. Us republicans are lucky that Barack is down the middle -not too liberal. I think we’ve lost this one already.

By ken

September 27, 2008 2:37 AM | Link to this

Looked like Obama won this round. Obama focused on the 21st century and how national security is tied into a strong economy and community here at home. McCain still has a 20th century mindset and used his experience to tell us how great he is instead of how he would use it to move us forward. He reminded me of Nikita Khruschev banging a shoe on the podium at the UN saying we will bury you. Felt much more comfortable with Obama’s answers and demeanor.

By MK

September 27, 2008 2:32 AM | Link to this

Wow…to “teacher’s comment below me…. Honestly that was literally THE dumbest comment I have EVER read…1st he’s NOT Muslim, and 2nd, Muslims do NOT want to eradicate Christians and Jews. Where the hell did you get that information from?! If you were not so ignorant you might have know that minute little fact that Jews and Christians are “people of the book” in the Islamic religion…lol, and no Muslims do NOT hate other Muslims. I have a couple of Muslim friends and let me tell you, the radical ones that you see portrayed by CNN, Fox, and the media controlled by Rupert Murdoch (anti Muslim/strong Zionist believer who basically owns the worlds news) are not good representatives of Islam. Next time before you open your mouth, make sure you have your facts right you racist. People like you should NOT be allowed to vote, but unfortunately the constitution does not rule out ignorant idiots. MK

By george

September 27, 2008 2:26 AM | Link to this

I thought I was going to spill my beverage when Hussaine Obama tried to to say he had a braclet too but could not remember the name and had to read the name. Of course he had no idea anyway. This is your Ivy leaguer

By @ Fred

September 27, 2008 2:23 AM | Link to this

You are 100% correct!! Truer words cannot be spoken!

By fred

September 27, 2008 2:12 AM | Link to this

The younger generation just does not get it. A goverment that gives you everything also is taking away your rights. It sounds so tempting to get a bargain college education and pay no taxes and have affordable health care for everyone. But to have these things the goverment will own you and you have sold out your freedom. A little boost is great but higher learning is an earned privilege that comes from working hard and being the best you can be. I know you can get lost between the cracks of democrocy but having a constitution that protects your every right and a flag that flies for freedom is the real issues. With the economical train wreck it is easy to lose sight of freedom. Vote your heart and be proud you have the right to make your own informed decision. Pray for America and it’s leaders. Don’t get caught up in your own personal wants. We have made it this far and will continue to be the best nation ever.

By HuberTucky

September 27, 2008 2:03 AM | Link to this

Advantage Obama: New thoughts, progressive ideas, and solutions. Coherent. McCain: repetitive, talking of the past, tired, same old same old, 4 more years of Bush. McCain is such a yawner. Obama is exciting and intelligent. McCain is just too old and tapped out. Time for a change and that will happen come November. I wish they’d have included nader in this debate…he’d have kept them on their toes!

By tracy mitchell-dayton ohio

September 27, 2008 1:59 AM | Link to this

john mccain needs to grow up. he acted like a child tonight. all he did was avoid every question asked by tearing down Obama. I need a president that can answer a question without pointing a finger like my 7 year old does.

By Dan

September 27, 2008 1:49 AM | Link to this

Doc-Not one. What rock did the dude claiming Obama is Muslim crawl out from. They don’t get the big picture and how they have been manipulated due to their party allegiance. Being a former Daytonian, I am sometimes embarrassed by the ignorance that has been displayed on this blog.

By Ricky

September 27, 2008 1:42 AM | Link to this

Who is a Muslim? Also, this is going to be the last election republicans are going to be competitive for some time. Like Clinton said earlier this week, the vast majority of new voters are going to swing to the left. As a young voter, I can’t relate to McCain. He talks about events in the 60’s. That doesn’t really matter to me at this point. After 9-11, he wanted to bomb Afghanistan…and Iraq, Iran and Syria. Young voters aren’t so trigger happy. Neither are minorities, who will soon be the majority. McCain is old, stuffy, boring and just dull. He represents his party well.

By doc

September 27, 2008 1:36 AM | Link to this

Dan: You look at the comments of these idiots here and tell me how many of them you think understand what I wrote? You got people who think Obama is a Muslim, people who think McCain is a racist and people who are arguring over which party is best. If most americans had sense they would be signing recall petitions as was write. Something very bad is going to have to occur before these mindless melon heads get it.

By Lynn

September 27, 2008 1:33 AM | Link to this

Oh, yes, the ever-popular “racial bias” charge. And, of course, it’s being leveled with absolutely no proof. As always, too many liberals choose to believe that not supporting Obama could be based on anything other than race. Obama’s policies aren’t “new”. They’re just a re-hash of liberal policies through the years, many of which are based on the idea that the American people require the government to both do their thinking for them and to provide them with everything they might want.

By mjm

September 27, 2008 1:30 AM | Link to this

Time to start precluding anyone who went to Harvard or Yale. Sick of those clowns. How about a regular state University/College person?

By Dan

September 27, 2008 1:24 AM | Link to this

Doc-You are absolutely 100% correct. The importance of this election is not on the presidential side, but the Congressional elections with the entire House of Representatives up for re-election and 34 members of the Senate. Your opinion on the bailout of corporate America has fallen on deaf ears. 80% of all constituents do not wish to bailout the Wall St bankers. I hear many express the concerns of terrorism, my friends what has just occurred is one of the most heinous terrorist acts one can commit. Their actions have and will destroy peoples lives and Congress will allow them to get away with it. Guess what, these were Americans who are doing this. I suggest you wake up and smell the coffee. Your members of Congress are only concerned about saving the skin of their corporate cronies and lobbyist. Your member of Congress only concern is how he or she can perpetuate their stay in Washington. I recommend you send a message and vote your incumbent out regardless of party affiliation. It is time for the people to take back the Peoples House and rid ourselves of the cancer that the professional politicians inflict upon us. Send the message’THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE WILL BE HEARD. It is your right and your duty. Pass it on. Tell your friends and neighbors

By teacher

September 27, 2008 1:22 AM | Link to this

The bottom line is this….is this country ready for a muslim leader????? They hate everyone, even other muslims. The Christians and Jews are just the first ethnic groups that they would like to eradicate.

By Dea Baldwin

September 27, 2008 1:01 AM | Link to this

No toss up for me I feel that Ohio must be afraid of something positive and new and something that came from Harvard Law School must be a bit frightening…intimidating gee I wonder why else stubborn people don’t grasp change. I can look around and see the plain, dull energy that supports McCain. I will cast my vote early for OBAMA. He will be a great leader against all the odds of OHIO’S rural mindset and mis information and racial bias.

By schar

September 27, 2008 1:00 AM | Link to this

Two questions bother me a lot. First on the question of the surge, the media and everyone else seem to be tongue-tied. When it was first proposed no one knew the exact number of troops to be sent to Baghdad and how much of the resources would be committed there. And so it was difficult to say how the surge would impact the future outcomes of the Iraq War. Also what came first the surge or the War? If almost everyone agrees that the Iraq War was a terrible mistake costing the nation trillions of dollars and achieving absolutely nothing, instead bringing tons of ill-will from around the world, why not focus more on the WAR, instead on one silly aspect of surge? Today’s financial crisis was in a way mothered by the Iraq War and there is not a word about this. Second, relying on experience, rather than wisdom, is not wise. One may have all the experience in the world, but may be making the worst decisions, whereas one may have ZERO experience and still may be making absolutely masterly decisions. The Obama case is a great example. Also take the decisions made by the Bush-Cheney administration. Are they the greatest? Are we going to be cursed by four more years of the Bushy years thanks to Ohio’s brilliant minds? Have as much of McCain-Palin in your state but don’t make the whole country of 300 million suffer. They have suffered enough! Please…. Also it is possible that stock prices will go through the roof if Obama wins on 11/04/2008. Why do the media not bring out these facts? Schar

By nick

September 27, 2008 12:59 AM | Link to this

We have young Mr. Obama, 146 days as a jr senator & no military experience, he did organize communities and we have John McCain, graduate of the military academy, commander and pilot and pow in a war with over 23 yrs in congress…ok, go figure!!

By doc

September 27, 2008 12:50 AM | Link to this

The comments here are interesting. Most of you show why we are in the state we’re in. Supidity. I’m more likely to vote for McCain than Obama, but the question of who won the debate was correctly answered by Dick Morris.(Obama) The point of this forum is to show who won, not who you perfer. I bet most of you have no idea of what your senate-congressional leaders vote on or their positions. Like sheep you just vote down the party line. You keep putting the same crooks in office. Our current economic crisis is a joint party effort. If you really wanted change you’d vote of your imcumbent legislator and put the other person on you dem/repub ticket in. That would send a message that could not be ignored. Instead of doing something meaningful you idiots bicker back and forth over some meaningless Presidential election. McLin is indeed horrible, but so was Taft. Instead of understanding how to effect change (voting out most of this entire congress and senate) you brainless squid people are here insulting each other along party lines. What a bunch of losers. If justice were served none of you should be allowed to have children.

By Dan

September 27, 2008 12:45 AM | Link to this

TRS-No I am not from Detroit, I was born and raised in the Dayton area. I agree with GM being a poorly run corporation by allowing the union to breed inefficiency. I don’t quite agree with the greediness of the union. When GM moved a lot of their operation overseas, I didn’t see the cost of their cars and trucks come down. It was more like corporate greed, which, unfortunately, allowed us to get into this situation of a financial meltdown. I must look at the entire picture and in most of the now defunct rust belt, the quality of life is not what one would wish for. I am suggesting possibly a change is needed because the status quo is not quite cutting it. I like to remind people it is their future and their families future and party loyalty doesn’t put money in the bank and food on the table.

By qa_user

September 27, 2008 12:43 AM | Link to this

McCain is stuck in the past. 10 years from now when Iraq is still at war he’ll recall how back in ‘08 the surge worked. It’s a treat to see the first black president debate the old guard GOP. Palin better work on defending against the recall back in AK.

By gail

September 27, 2008 12:39 AM | Link to this

OBAMA- of course. McCain, I think has a medical problem, he repeated the same sentences 3-4 times, like his mind was wondering or something. Yes, he is a great war hero because he was captured, experience is good, but the experience McCain talks about is the same that has lead us to the present situation. Eight years of downhill surviving is enough for me. We DO NOT want a replay of the past administration, we will not survive. OBAMA FOR SURVIVAL

By Alice

September 27, 2008 12:37 AM | Link to this

Most post polls are showing that Obama won the debate. Although I thought both candidates did well - I thought Obama came off slightly better. He gets a strong response from independents and obviously dems on economics and held his own on foreign policy against his experienced opponent.

By TRS

September 27, 2008 12:33 AM | Link to this

So where you from Dan - Detroit? We certainly don’t need an electronic carpetbagger lecturing us poor souls in Dayton. For the record, the issues of Dayton revolve around a poorly ran company, GM - and greedy unions. As for the debate, most seem to feel McCain did better. The reality is those who support Obama will say he won and vice versa.

By Hugh G. Rection

September 27, 2008 12:19 AM | Link to this

Hey Ashley, LEARN TO SPELL. Or is Busch your favorite beer? With mastery of the English language, you might learn effecitve argument. Simply saying Senator McCain is another President Bush is an over-simplification. Because the opposite argument is Obama is just another Carter. Or Mugabe. Yeah, he turned Rhodesia into Zimbabwae, complete with hyperinflation.

By Ohio Native

September 27, 2008 12:18 AM | Link to this

America won the debate by John McCain submitting to his participation. Senator McCain tried “rolling the dice” by suspending his campaign and going to Washington D.C. to win popular public opinion and lost. Ohio’s residents need a President who can improve the economy and help create a positive environment for all Americans.

By Diane Feinstein

September 27, 2008 12:11 AM | Link to this

McCain did over 9000 per cent better than Obama!

By willyboy

September 27, 2008 12:11 AM | Link to this

Real quick comment at the midway point of the debate: I am seriously concerned about John McCain’s health. He both looks bad and sounds bad; he has discontinuities of thought. I hope it is nothing more than fatigue - certainly understandable - but it makes me worry. OK, I’ll give the debate to Obama; ‘suppose there’s no surprise there. McCain scored a few good points, but Obama had the majority. And I still say McCain is not 100% and hope it’s nothing more than fatigue. On the coverage, I like the CNN inclusion of the “reaction meter” which helped me feel confident in the Obama “win”, but I also prefer the CSPAN constant split screen coverage.

By Arock

September 27, 2008 12:03 AM | Link to this

Don’t make me call your boss!

By keith

September 27, 2008 12:01 AM | Link to this

whats the name on the braclet

By jody

September 27, 2008 12:00 AM | Link to this

What debate? There was a debate? Sorry, I was watching something much more important: The Louisville/UConn football game.

By Thomas

September 26, 2008 11:57 PM | Link to this

Hey Ashley, what kind of change, exactly? Just because something is different, that doesn’t make it better…or worse for that matter. Obama talks a lot about hope and change, but what is he really going to change? He’s just a typical politician…

By Andy

September 26, 2008 11:57 PM | Link to this

McCain won this one easily. Dumb-o-crats will lose again this fall.

By Andy

September 26, 2008 11:53 PM | Link to this

Just shows how liberal and stupid the Dayton dumb-o-crats really are. McCain was superb and did you notice that Obama never looks straight at a camera, always shifting from left to right? And why would you vote for a man whose VP thinks TV was around in the 1930s? My vote and my family’s is for McCain.

By Thomas

September 26, 2008 11:53 PM | Link to this

Hey Dan, Dayton has been living under great Democratic leaders like Rhine McLin long enough to know who what happens when enough people vote for a person because of his/her skin color. Thanks for playing though.

By Mary

September 26, 2008 11:52 PM | Link to this

McCain came off as the more experienced, thoughtfull,educated and capable candidate! McCain will cut spending. Obama has all these grandiose and expensive plans…Does he know about the bailout.LOL. He needs an ECONOMICS lesson ASAP!

By Ashley

September 26, 2008 11:51 PM | Link to this

I didnt watch it. But do we really want another President Busch in office. If you vote for McCain thats what you are going to get. If you want Change then vote for Obama.

By Jim

September 26, 2008 11:50 PM | Link to this

I felt Obama won hands down. He clearly nailed McCain on the war and the economy. He also was able to look McCain in the eye, which McCain couldn’t do. McCain is look backward, Obama is a look forward.

By Doug Wiedeman

September 26, 2008 11:50 PM | Link to this

McCain’s salient point of the night was when he was posing the scenario of “President Obama” meeting with the leader of Iran. The leader of Iran declares he will wipe the stinking corpse of Israel from the map. “President Obama” replies uh-uh. Now what?

By Unbiased

September 26, 2008 11:37 PM | Link to this

Ted…everyone stutters from time to time. Pay closer attention and you would have realized that the nervous one was McCain. If you really pay attention and to the details like body language, gesturing, etc., you would have noticed the quiver in McCains voice. He didnt sound very confident.

By Ted

September 26, 2008 11:31 PM | Link to this

The only stuttering I heard was from Obama - no telepromter!

By Liz

September 26, 2008 11:30 PM | Link to this

McCain won hands down. Experience, experience, experience. After we have recovered from our economic difficulties, I’d hate to see us in a vulnerable position in regards to global security due to Obama’s overwhelming INexperience. McCain presents realistic and attainable goals while Obama’s fairy wish list is unclear. Politics (sadly, unlike real life) is a different playground than many of us comprehend. Obama is a great man, I would like to see him run when he gets more experience under his belt. McCain shows flexibility in his thinking and spoke often toward the future. Obama resorts to ticking off points and dwelling in the past. The world is a dynamic place, change is upon us in every direction. McCain’s foundation is strong, his leadership skills are honed, and I truly believe that he is competent not only nationally but globally. As a registered Democrat, I’m going with experience this election and voting John McCain.

By neutral

September 26, 2008 11:17 PM | Link to this

McCain won this debate. He showed he has a much broder base of knowledge about foriegn affairs than Obama.

By Kris

September 26, 2008 11:12 PM | Link to this

When even the mostly liberal viewership of DDN.COM votes that McCain won, I’d say he won.

By anghiari

September 26, 2008 11:09 PM | Link to this

source: huffpost.com 9/26/08 Linda Bergthhold “Just now in the presidential debates, McCain said that Obama doesn’t know strategy. I blogged on this a few weeks ago. McCain is wrong. In Senator Obama’s speech on foreign policy today in Washington D.C. called “A New Strategy for a New World”, he demonstrated that he understands the role of strategy vs. tactics. But does McCain? Under fire from McCain for talking about Iraq before he visits there next week, Obama also demonstrated the he understands the role of a leader — to lay out a strategy in broad principles and let the generals fill in the tactics to achieve that strategy. The great Chinese General Sun Tzu knew the difference in 500 B.C. when he declared, “Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat. In addition, back when the discussion of strategy v. tactics in Iraq was highlighted in the media, I noted the following: McCain, on the other hand, responded mainly in tactical terms — “I know how to win a war” he said. Yes, the “how to” is important. But the “what to do” is even more important. Americans may not be too familiar with the differences between strategy and tactics, subjected as we have been for the past eight years to the “strategery” of George Bush’s administration, which has been a series of actions taken without a greater strategy in mind. The Surge itself was a tactic, not a strategy, and as a tactic it appears to have reduced violence. What Obama did today was to put the Surge into the wider context of a foreign policy strategy American desperately needs to implement. Who do you trust to know more about real strategy? McCain and (Palin)?? Or Obama, who was right on the war in the first place. And by the way — why isn’t McCain wearing a FLAG PIN tonight? Come on, folks. This is a travesty! Obama has a flag pin. Where is McCain’s?

By Dan

September 26, 2008 11:09 PM | Link to this

Life must be wonderful for all you Daytonians with 7.2% unemployment and a metro area that is #4 on Forbes top 10 list of dying cities. With the looks of things to come you could be looking at 12-15% unemployment. By the way how is your 401k plan or maybe a pension plan if its still being offered. Basically people you have to look at your lives and ask is it great or does it suck. From the stats I see it doesn’t look great. Cast a vote for someone that may represent you as an American and improve your quality of life. It doesn’t seem to have happened during this century. Just a thought.

By william worrell

September 26, 2008 11:05 PM | Link to this

Mccain always votes against veterans and for wall street hoodlums see his record here May 2006: McCain voted against an amendment that would provide $20 million to the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) for health care facilities. April 2006: McCain was one of only 13 Senators to vote against $430,000,000 for the Department of Veteran Affairs for Medical Services for outpatient care and treatment for veterans. March 2006: McCain voted against increasing Veterans medical services funding by $1.5 billion in FY 2007 to be paid for by closing corporate tax loopholes. March 2004: McCain once again voted for abusive tax loopholes over veterans when he voted against creating a reserve fund to allow for an increase in Veterans’ medical care by $1.8 billion by eliminating abusive tax loopholes. Jeez, McCain really loves those tax loopholes for corporations, since he voted for them over our veterans’ needs.

By Jim

September 26, 2008 11:05 PM | Link to this

Obama made McCain look really old. All McCain could do was stutter and keep hammering his 20+ years of doing that or his 20+ years of doing this…on and on. Meanwhile Obama told us what he wants to do. Get out of Iraq, fix health care and free us from oil. McCain said a lot but really said nothing….. how can you say otherwise?

By anghiari

September 26, 2008 11:03 PM | Link to this

Senator McCain is a great war hero and a terrible candidate for President in 2008. Republicans swiftboated him in 2000 in the South Carolina Primary with a whisper campaign that his adopted daughter was really his illegitmate daughter by a black woman. It killed his chances to catch Bush in Michigan and he was out of the primary. You people on this post didn’t think he was so great 8 years ago. Look at how smart you were eight years ago when you threw this war hero over for a guy who flew over Texas for his military duty. My point is your record of choosing the right guy at the right time isn’t so great. George Bush has been a royal disaster and McCain is mimicing Bush’s policies. I could care less if you guys choose to vote against your own personal and financial interests and prefer to vote Party over Country. But the rest of us are not willing to suffer through another incompetent corrupt Republican adminstration simply because you will not vote for a honorable, honest and very smart guy because he’s a Democrat! Your loss, our gain!

By Liam

September 26, 2008 11:02 PM | Link to this

Obama clearly won. What was up with McCain not even being able to address him directly as he was asked? SNL ought to have a field day with McCain’s performance. My family was laughing hysterically by the end.

By Patrick

September 26, 2008 11:00 PM | Link to this

Obama, easy, what a great leader. Mcsame didn’t even look Obama in the eyes. Not a great leader!!

By Unbiased

September 26, 2008 10:59 PM | Link to this

I thought it was rather cowardly that McCain wouldnt look at Obama when he was speaking like Obama was doing to him. If he cant look at someone in a debate, how will he stand up to someone under pressure.

By Dennis Kelly

September 26, 2008 10:58 PM | Link to this

McCain said at least seven times to Obama, “you don’t seem to understand!”. Obama talks well, but has no ideas that come together - often he seems to just be talking in circles without an outcome anyone could grasp. I find it ironic Obama was so anxious for this debate - he clearly was unprepared and outclassed by a proven experienced leader.

By ralph

September 26, 2008 10:55 PM | Link to this

McCain won the debate. What a great leader. Experience and integrity show.

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