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Who won the third debate?
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain sparred verbally for 90 minutes on Wednesday, Oct. 15, in their third and final presidential debate.
The debate at Hofstra University in Hempstead, N.Y., was almost certainly the final face-to-face meeting between the two men before the Nov. 4 election, now less than three weeks away.
The stakes were big for both candidates, but probably more so for McCain who has fallen behind Obama in recent national polls. Obama has passed Obama in most Ohio polls, also, but the race appears to be closer in Ohio than it is nationally.
Here’s a chance to evaluate who did the best job in debate number three.
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By Hank Stamper
October 17, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this
Leslie I invited you to back up what you are saying with factual information from reliable sources and you have failed to do that. Once again I ask: How does cutting back the taxes on families making less than $250k make everyone more dependent on the government??? That keeps the taxpayers money directly in their pocket. And this Joe the Plumber propaganda is flat out ridiculous. If he wants to fulfill his dream of buying the plumbing company he works for he had better start by paying the $1200 in state taxes that he owes and then getting a license to be a plumber. And under Obama’s tax plan, he will eliminate the capital gains tax for small and start-up businesses. If anybody making more than $250k can’t afford to pay an additional $900 per year in taxes, then they don’t know how to manage their money. Gas, food, utilities etc all cost the same regardless of how much you make. It is a flat out fact that a family making over $250k has more disposable income than a family making $35k.By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this
To: Lax20, I guess what I’m trying to convey to you is we all need not be so judgemental so quickly, we all here want the same things, and want to get to the same place. It just seems some take a bumpier way to get there. We all have critized Bush, just as I have at times, but this man faced some real issues that have not been faced by an american president since pearl harbor. For that, and that he tried to do right, I give him credit!!! You know he’s the president, if he wanted too, he could have put “WMD”S all over Iraq to solidify us being there. He didn’t he dealt with the faulty intel or lack of how ever you see it. I’m just so tired of people saying McCain will be Bush for another eight years. McCain’s not Bush and either is Obama, Do you want evryone going around saying that the only reason Obama won was because of Bush, I’d think you would want people to say he won because he was the best man for the job and he has the best plan for the United States of America. If you remember the day of 9/11 we all would have stood next to one another and kicked some butt if we had too, regardless of our views, we hurt and then we were angry. I always tell my seven year old that although this was one of the saddest days of my life, I was able to experience for the first time in a long time the unity that this tragedy created. We all saw so much patriotism and unity that our lives seemed so little compared to the hero’s that gave that day. I would like to feel that way again and maybe my children to experience that also. Well of course without the tragedy, why do we only come together when the bad guys come a knockin….You are entitled to your opinion as I am and the others on this blog. I’m not saying I’m innocent here, i got caught up in this rediculous pointing fingers/name calling just as some of the rest of you….Do we need to be that way, I mean look at what were fighting about, regardless of who wins, america will keep going and just as in the past we will continue to lead by example and be the best in the world. Now make no mistake I’m still voting for McCain, but hey you have chosen your man and thats ok “nobody’s perfect” Just kidding, I respect your choice and others on this blog. Lets not forget the man in the white house does not dictate who we are and/or how american we choose to be….God bless America, she’ll lead the way always!!!!By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this
To: Lax20, I guess what I’m trying to convey to you is we all need not be so judgemental so quickly, we all here want the same things, and want to get to the same place. It just seems some take a bumpier way to get there. We all have critized Bush, just as I have at times, but this man faced some real issues that have not been faced by an american president since pearl harbor. For that, and that he tried to do right, I give him credit!!! You know he’s the president, if he wanted too, he could have put “WMD”S all over Iraq to solidify us being there. He didn’t he dealt with the faulty intel or lack of how ever you see it. I’m just so tired of people saying McCain will be Bush for another eight years. McCain’s not Bush and either is Obama, Do you want evryone going around saying that the only reason Obama won was because of Bush, I’d think you would want people to say he won because he was the best man for the job and he has the best plan for the United States of America. If you remember the day of 9/11 we all would have stood next to one another and kicked some butt if we had too, regardless of our views, we hurt and then we were angry. I always tell my seven year old that although this was one of the saddest days of my life, I was able to experience for the first time in a long time the unity that this tragedy created. We all saw so much patriotism and unity that our lives seemed so little compared to the hero’s that gave that day. I would like to feel that way again and maybe my children to experience that also. Well of course without the tragedy, why do we only come together when the bad guys come a knockin….You are entitled to your opinion as I am and the others on this blog. I’m not saying I’m innocent here, i got caught up in this rediculous pointing fingers/name calling just as some of the rest of you….Do we need to be that way, I mean look at what were fighting about, regardless of who wins, america will keep going and just as in the past we will continue to lead by example and be the best in the world. Now make no mistake I’m still voting for McCain, but hey you have chosen your man and thats ok “nobody’s perfect” Just kidding, I respect your choice and others on this blog. Lets not forget the man in the white house does not dictate who we are and/or how american we choose to be….God bless America, she’ll lead the way always!!!!By Lax20
October 16, 2008 8:17 PM | Link to this
Thinkaboutit: We have conversed earlier in the day. I believe you said,” I’m about ready to rip you apart!!! In your response of course. Freedom of Speech is still alive, unless the Patriot Act precludes it. I am not angry, but very much at peace. As for name calling, I don’t think the phrase’Republican Pumper’ is that derogatory. You might possibly be Leslie, we certainly don’t know, but I would like to clarify some of your statements from this morning. I do not blame Bush for 9/11. He just happen to be the man in office at the time. But the shoe fits on many other issues, that McCain still represents. Neither Bush nor McCain control the Republican Party, but the party does control them and sets the agenda. Unfortunately, guilt by association. This will be McCains downfall.By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this
To: Lax20, Hey bud, why don’t chill on the name calling, it takes a big man to pick on Leslie, she’s entitled to her opinion just as you are. I don’t believe we’ve given up our freedom of speech just yet!!!! Why are you so angry, I mean by your accounts you have already won, you should be happy. Unless of course your not as confident as you would have yourself believe…..By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 7:53 PM | Link to this
To: Lax20, Hey bud, why don’t chill on the name calling, it takes a big man to pick on Leslie, she’s entitled to her opinion just as you are. I don’t believe we’ve given up our freedom of speech just yet!!!! Why are you so angry, I mean by your accounts you have already won, you should be happy. Unless of course your not as confident as you would have yourself believe…..By Lax20
October 16, 2008 7:35 PM | Link to this
Leslie: I think we just erased history. Now we’re about to change history. Who am I? BooHoo, we just got our a$$ kicked. ‘Republican Pumpers’ on Nov. 5, 2008.By Leslie
October 16, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this
Well some of you don’t pay attention or you are new, because I have been here before and I have told you that I was a poor young single mother that got to live the American Dream, I worked and maintained my home on my own. The social programs to help the needy today and under Obama’s plan are designed to keep you on the programs!!! The programs need to be redesigned to help people get on their feet not to become dependent on the government. We are Americans. We are the best people in the world. We are strong, capable and self-reliant. We care, we care so deeply we try to solve all the problems of the world and that is to much for us. It is time to take care of home. John McCain will take care of home and keep us America. Obama wants us all dependent on the government and will change who we are and what we represent. Are you ready to erase your history or rewrite your history?By unknown
October 16, 2008 6:45 PM | Link to this
Nully: I want facts more like this. Obama proposes letting the former two highest tax tiers to expire and revert back to what it used to be. That is instead of 33% & 35%, it would go to 36% & 39.6%. Wow, what an increase that is. For purposes to show how much that would be, an income of $280K would yield an increase of $900 in additional taxes. By the way, the GAO(that’s the General Accounting Office for the mental giants on this blog)put out a report stating that 68% of all US corporations as well as foreign corporations who did business on US soil paid no corporate income taxes from 1997-2005. If my math serves me correctly, that is $0. How dare we ask the corporations to pay their fair share. What would happen if 68% of all Americans did not pay their tax liability like Joe the plumber in Toledo, Ohio failed to do. There happens to be a tax lien on his property for failure to pay. These are facts and easily found on most websites other than “I’m a republican die hard.com”.By Mac
October 16, 2008 6:38 PM | Link to this
Ms. Purrrfect-Thanks so much for the concern of my education/spelling error’s…LOL. Your time would really be better spent, fact checking the presidential candidates.By nully
October 16, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this
unknown, Your far left Senator and his just as liberal running mate have stated many times that the people who make over 250k and corporations can afford to pay the higher taxes. BinBiden said that it is “patriotic” to redistribute wealth. Barry Hussein said last night that corporations will be forced to pay for healthcare because “they can afford it”. What other “facts” do you need?By unknown
October 16, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this
Nully: Until you come up with facts, how can we have an intelligent conversation. Quit repeating the same Republican jibberish that spews out the backside of all the Republicans on this blog. You talk about socialism. Guess what, the biggest act of socialism just occurred by a Treasury Secretary who happens to be Republican and endorsed by a Republican President. Yes, I know a Democratic Congress passed that gift of a bill and they are also on my hit list. All House members and 34 Senators are up for re-election and I am advocating for voting all incumbents out. Facts speak for themselves and I don’t mean the ones from these biased publications. Do you know the specifics of Obama’s tax plan other than what the republican hardliners want you to believe. Think before you speak. Until you can quote me fact, you’re still a big pu$$yBy Ethel S.
October 16, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this
David Broder, a writer for the Washington Post, said recently that whoever wins this election will have the shortest honeymoon in political history because of serious problems we face. Sen. McCain provided the most informative and had the best tax and economic policies of the Third Debate. The example of Joe, the Plumber, showed me that he would have to give up his dream of owning his own business to get a tax cut under Sen. Obama. In other words, Joe, the Plumber would have to be underemployed not to get taxed to death. Sen. McCain said he would pay for his mortgage workouts plan from the $700 bailout package just passed. Now the Gang of Three, Rep. Pelosi, Sen. Reid, and Sen. Obama are talking about another $150 billion economic stimulus package before Congress had any hearings on how successful the first one turned out. So far, it looks like we will racked up more debt from the Dems in control. Sen. McCain’s plan to make education a civil right and set as a high priority an initiative to find the causes and treatment for developmentally disabled children. And the winners of the night and the next four years are Sen. McCain, Gov. Palin, and the American people.By G
October 16, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this
According to Webster’s a Christian is someone who “professes a belief in Jesus as Christ”, not Christ-like. Do any of you have the egotism to claim you are Christ-like? Certainly not me! If we were really like Christ, we wouldn’t need the sacrifice and forgivemness offerred by by him. But enough about religion! It is a matter of personal belief. Freedom of religion and separation of Church and State are gauranteed by our Constitution, though sometimes it doesn’t seem like it.By nully
October 16, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this
Unknown, again you show your ignorance. You have no response to common sense so you fall back on “your ignorant or stupid or a poo poo head” wow again, a lefty response the way I have come to expect.By unknown
October 16, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this
Nully: When you make a ridiculous statement as your post, it warrants that type of response. Things are great in ‘do da land’. Probably much better than in ‘doo-doo land’.By G
October 16, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this
I just counted 7 posts from Leslie all day and who knows how many others under another name. Looks to me like Leslie is the paid blogger. However much McCain is paying you, it’s not enough for selling your soul.By nully
October 16, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this
Unknown, you have given a typical response that I would expect from the uneducated lefties. Either call us names or make fun of us on your little skit shows, that’s all you have. It must feel great living in “do da land”.By unknown
October 16, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this
Nully: We understand and agree. Yes, you are a big pu$$y.By nully
October 16, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
I love it when the socialist says “they can afford it” when he is speaking of the people making over 250k and the big bad corporations. Who is he to decide who can afford it? It is their money to do with as they please so why does he want to put his hands on it? Why do some of you beleive that it is okay to redistribute money? And one more thing, I hear alot of people who are voting for Obiden Hussein often say that they are not a democrat but are “independent”. This shows their ignorance because if they were really of the Independent party they would not be voting for the most liberal in congress. Their vote would be for the real independent Senator McCain. I also hear the argument when I call them on this that “this is America and I can call myself whatever I want”, so from now on I am a gynecologist.By Lax20
October 16, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this
Leslie: You’re not a ‘Republican Pumper’? What did they promise you a McCain breakfast sandwich at McDonalds which is 2 slices of bread and you wish you had some meat.By Hank Stamper
October 16, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this
Leslie I hope you are wearing boots because your BS is getting deeper. Why don’t you do yourself a favor and post ONE reliable source for all this right wing propaganda you are spreading. Or maybe you can explain how cutting taxes for people who make less than $250k will hurt the middle class. Or maybe you can shed a light on how McCain’s plan to tax employer sponsored health insurance to give a $5000 tax credit so people can buy their own health insurance will fix the health care problem. Here is a fact: $5000 will NOT give comprehensive health insurance to a family of 3, and if the deductible is any less than $2500 per person, I can guaranty that there will be no maternity coverage. You speak like a true card carrying republican that makes over $250k and doesn’t have to worry about how much health care costs. If you haven’t realized it yet, it has been the republican party who has been in the White House for the last 8 years and has created the most powerful executive branch in the history of this country. If you want to complain about the use of tax dollars, how about the $343 million dollars spent in Iraq EVERY DAY? I’m still waiting on the discovery of those WMDs. Compare that $343 million per day to the $67 million spent in Afghanistan. Last time I checked, the intelligence reports believe that Bin Laden is in Afghanistan NOT Iraq.By nully
October 16, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this
Where has country music been? I went to the McCain rally and he had some hard rock group playing crap that nobody wanted to hear. Then their final song was some bs rock song that they tried to get the crowd to sing along to. I, along with probably 90% of the crowd want our country music!!!By Obama blogger
October 16, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this
Do you have proof of that Leslie? I mean REAL proof, not something you got from Foxx or some other bogus source, like where you get all your other stuff.By shaen
October 16, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this
Obama won the debate. McCain won a trip to Sun City.By Leslie
October 16, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this
Yes Obama pays people to be on these blogs. There job is to constantly be in your face. You know that training he gave to ACORN. They are suppose to constantly tell you the economy is what is important, people need health insurance and better education. And of course the continuous rhetoric “are you better off than 8 years ago?” “do you want more of the same”. It’s just over and over and you don’t really have conversations with them, certainly not intelligent ones. They are not here to debate, they are simply here to constantly be in your face!By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this
To: Obama blogger, Your right he does not need to pay bloggers, how could he, he uses all his money in negative ads and checks to ACORN…HMmmmmmmBy Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this
To: Obama blogger, Your right he does not need to pay bloggers, how could he, he uses all his money in negative ads and checks to ACORN…HMmmmmmmBy Leslie
October 16, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this
Homeownership is the American Dream, not the American Entitlement. Not everyone is entitled to owning a home… those that work hard, and save money, have decent credit, and have a responsible outlook should be “entitled” to that home! Obama’s plans for this country will put us into more debt, and will have us alienated from the remaining allies we have in the world. God help us all if he becomes President! there is a reason that middle east countries want him in the White House.. He has no foreign relations experience, he has no military experience, who cares if he was educated at Harvard! Does that automatically mean that becasue he was educated at Harvard he should be president?By Obama blogger
October 16, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this
To you-Whinning Republicans-Obama does not need to pay bloggers. How much does McSame pay you?By Leslie
October 16, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this
If anyone remembers Richard Nixon’s line, “Let me make one thing perfectly clear,” you can compare that to Obama’s, “What we need to understand is…” Obama used that line over and over when he was pushed in a corner by McCain or when he was not sure what to say next. Usually, nothing new followed it. When he could not answer McCain because McCain was correct in his criticism, or when Obama did not want to give an answer because it would have verified what McCain was saying, he would use his line and repeat his stump points. Watch the debate again. See the number of times that Obama got a look on his face like a little boy with his hand in the cookie jar. You could tell from that look when McCain was scoring points, at least with Obama. The Obama grins were not showing confidence. They were a way of saying “You are right but I am going to pretend that you are wrong.” McCain had some “strange looks” on his face at times. Study what Obama was saying at the time. McCain’s eyebrows went up in an obvious look of shock once when he knew that Obama was not representing himself correctly. Think about one of the most leftist, socialist members of congress being president along side of powerbrokers Reid and Palosi. Get used to your rights being run over with a bulldozer of socialist taxes and law. There will be nothing, or no one, who will be able to stand up for the citizens. 1. The unborn are doomed. 2. The American dream will be much harder to achive because if an entrepreneur starts becoming successful, he will be “sharing his wealth” with less enterprising people, thus retarding his business’ growth. 3. The Constitution will be torn to shreds by Supreme Court justices who will be creating law (rewriting the Consitutution) instead of interpreting it. 4. Our military protection will be gutted. 5. Will extremist governments be eating from our table and before long, we will be eating out of their hands? We have heard the debates, now you decide. Don’t wait four years to say, “If only I would have voted the other way.”By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
To: Catlover1, We get it already, your a college graduate and your whole family and ex-husband are voting for Obama, we hear you….thank you for voting!!!!By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this
To: Catlover1, We get it already, your a college graduate and your whole family and ex-husband are voting for Obama, we hear you….thank you for voting!!!!By Leslie
October 16, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this
The government is there to help you get on our feet not to take care of you. Social programs in America are suppose to be there in times of need, but the democrats wants the masses to live on the social programs. This is how Obama plans to control the masses. He wants to take away your drive and your free will. Actually he is so arrogant he doesn’t think we can take care of ourselves and doesn’t approve of us, so he wants to have the power to control us and how we live. We have a lot of programs that need to be fixed, but Obama is not the man to fix them. Our social programs have been run by the democrats for decades and they have problems, mostly because people exploit them. We the people of America do care about each other and that is why we help each other. We donate money to how many charities are there now? We donate food, clothes, toys, we give and give. Yet Obama and his crowd say it is not good enough. Obama’s wealthy Hollywoods take all of their help overseas, they don’t help in our country. If you are poor in our country the Hollywoods feel it is your fault. Kind of goes against Obama’s speeches doesn’t it? Hollywoods are always asking for money to feed starving children in some other country never here in America, so obviously Obama and his minions are wong there are no starving children in this country. We the people can take care of ourselves. We the people do not need government to take control! America the land of the free. We are not peasants, we are Americans.By ohiocatlover1
October 16, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this
Leslie, FYI-I am not a paid Obama blogger and I am not a paid volunteer of Obama’s. I just stand by what he says and stands for unlike his opponent. Obama is NOT against America he just doesn’t like the way that this country has gone for the past eight years. Obama kept his cool. My dad is ex-military and he is voting for Obama along with my daughter’s father who is also ex-military. Obama is going to give a tax cut to those Americans who make less than $250,000 per year. Check out Obama’s website at www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/ObamaKeepingAmericas_Promise.pdf before you pass judgement on him.By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this
We all have seen or had to deal with those smooth talking supervisors who pull you in their office and tell you how great you are, but that their going to have to let you go!!and by time your done, your so confused that you thank them and shake thier hand for laying you off. This reminds me of obama, he’s so smooth that he has everyone so confused….you are the person getting ready to lose everything, I hope we don’t but it truly looks scary…..By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this
We all have seen or had to deal with those smooth talking supervisors who pull you in their office and tell you how great you are, but that their going to have to let you go!!and by time your done, your so confused that you thank them and shake thier hand for laying you off. This reminds me of obama, he’s so smooth that he has everyone so confused….you are the person getting ready to lose everything, I hope we don’t but it truly looks scary…..By Tongue In Cheek
October 16, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
“let the people who are in a worst position and/or physically can’t work use those benefits” (think) But that is “socialism”. We wouldn’t want our government to manage care for those who can’t take care of themselves because that would make government too big and make us socialists. Do we really want to make the sick and elderly and unwanted children to not have a choice in what doctors to go to and we definitely wouldn’t want them to wait in emergency rooms for hours like they do in the rest of the world. The best way to help those who can’t help themselves is the free market. And the person who is fighting cancer but doesn’t have insurance because the job they worked at for twenty years doesn’t offer any or doesn’t cover cancer treatment shouldn’t take away the right of the insurance company to make as much profit as possible. The free market will take care of those people in addition to John McCain who will give them free money and tell them to look at prices in the next state. That’s the best solution to help people. You betcha.By aj
October 16, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
The winner of the debate was crystal clear..Barack Obama. He stuck to the issues the entire time and addressed the American people directly throughout the night. He was extremely effective on health care policy and education policy which are extremely important to me. In his closing argument Barack looked at the American people and focussed on their needs for the present and future. John McCain only talked about himself. All of these false posts bringing up bogus right wing talking points is ridiculus. The majority of Americans who viewed the debate last night said Barack won. No, I’m not some dumb, kool-aid sipping liberal. I’m an intelligent American who has done the research and made a conclusive decision based on the substantive facts. It’s refreshing to me to have a president who is brilliant, calm under pressure, thinks before acting, and is willing to bring a voice for working class Americans back to the white house. We’ve already have 8 years of republican ideology and rule and what did that get us? Trillions of dollars in deficit, wars in the middle east, and a failing economy. I challenge you all to make a decision not based on what “ya heard” or what “somebody told ya”. Research for yourselves and be responsible about it. We need fundamental change in leadership, not someone that’s running on failed old republican philosophy for years masquerading as change. Vote OBAMA-BIDEN!By aj
October 16, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
The winner of the debate was crystal clear..Barack Obama. He stuck to the issues the entire time and addressed the American people directly throughout the night. He was extremely effective on health care policy and education policy which are extremely important to me. In his closing argument Barack looked at the American people and focussed on their needs for the present and future. John McCain only talked about himself. All of these false posts bringing up bogus right wing talking points is ridiculus. The majority of Americans who viewed the debate last night said Barack won. No, I’m not some dumb, kool-aid sipping liberal. I’m an intelligent American who has done the research and made a conclusive decision based on the substantive facts. It’s refreshing to me to have a president who is brilliant, calm under pressure, thinks before acting, and is willing to bring a voice for working class Americans back to the white house. We’ve already have 8 years of republican ideology and rule and what did that get us? Trillions of dollars in deficit, wars in the middle east, and a failing economy. I challenge you all to make a decision not based on what “ya heard” or what “somebody told ya”. Research for yourselves and be responsible about it. We need fundamental change in leadership, not someone that’s running on failed old republican philosophy for years masquerading as change. Vote OBAMA-BIDEN!By aj
October 16, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this
The winner of the debate was crystal clear..Barack Obama. He stuck to the issues the entire time and addressed the American people directly throughout the night. He was extremely effective on health care policy and education policy which are extremely important to me. In his closing argument Barack looked at the American people and focussed on their needs for the present and future. John McCain only talked about himself. All of these false posts bringing up bogus right wing talking points is ridiculus. The majority of Americans who viewed the debate last night said Barack won. No, I’m not some dumb, kool-aid sipping liberal. I’m an intelligent American who has done the research and made a conclusive decision based on the substantive facts. It’s refreshing to me to have a president who is brilliant, calm under pressure, thinks before acting, and is willing to bring a voice for working class Americans back to the white house. We’ve already have 8 years of republican ideology and rule and what did that get us? Trillions of dollars in deficit, wars in the middle east, and a failing economy. I challenge you all to make a decision not based on what “ya heard” or what “somebody told ya”. Research for yourselves and be responsible about it. We need fundamental change in leadership, not someone that’s running on failed old republican philosophy for years masquerading as change. Vote OBAMA-BIDEN!By aj
October 16, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
The winner of the debate was crystal clear..Barack Obama. He stuck to the issues the entire time and addressed the American people directly throughout the night. He was extremely effective on health care policy and education policy which are extremely important to me. In his closing argument Barack looked at the American people and focussed on their needs for the present and future. John McCain only talked about himself. All of these false posts bringing up bogus right wing talking points is ridiculus. The majority of Americans who viewed the debate last night said Barack won. No, I’m not some dumb, kool-aid sipping liberal. I’m an intelligent American who has done the research and made a conclusive decision based on the substantive facts. It’s refreshing to me to have a president who is brilliant, calm under pressure, thinks before acting, and is willing to bring a voice for working class Americans back to the white house. We’ve already have 8 years of republican ideology and rule and what did that get us? Trillions of dollars in deficit, wars in the middle east, and a failing economy. I challenge you all to make a decision not based on what “ya heard” or what “somebody told ya”. Research for yourselves and be responsible about it. We need fundamental change in leadership, not someone that’s running on failed old republican philosophy for years masquerading as change. Vote OBAMA-BIDEN!By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
To: Obama/Biden 08 You Wrote:Thinkaboutit: Aren’t you just a noble person? You must make a living sticking up for losers for example: McCain and Ecartman you probably think the Bengals are doing real well this year!!! I actually make a living in public service putting people who prey on others in jail. So no I don’t stick up for losers, I’m just an average guy trying to do the right thing…..So Obama/Biden 08, I’ll get you started, “Insert foot in mouth,,,lololol boy I betcha wish you could take that back!!!! How the bengals are doing does not effect me or my family one bit…Grow-up!!!!By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
To: Obama/Biden 08 You Wrote:Thinkaboutit: Aren’t you just a noble person? You must make a living sticking up for losers for example: McCain and Ecartman you probably think the Bengals are doing real well this year!!! I actually make a living in public service putting people who prey on others in jail. So no I don’t stick up for losers, I’m just an average guy trying to do the right thing…..So Obama/Biden 08, I’ll get you started, “Insert foot in mouth,,,lololol boy I betcha wish you could take that back!!!! How the bengals are doing does not effect me or my family one bit…Grow-up!!!!By Leslie
October 16, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
I see the paid Obama bloggers are here in force. McCain did an excellent job. McCain is a true leader and will protect our country and our liberties. The Obama bloggers want to convince everybody that America is terrible and we are really bad off. Times may be bad, but this is not the worst our country has seen. We are in this mess due to greed and social programs. The democrats platform is to say they are helping the poor and the middle class, reality is they use these lines to make themselves wealthy. Pelosi, Dodd, Barney Frank, & Obama all get wealthy off of the poor. They really don’t help the middle class and the middle class knows that. What makes this election so different is we are either voting for Obama a man that is against all that America stands for or a man that is proud of all that America stands for. McCain will defend our country, our liberties, and our constitution. Obama will throw us under the bus to be King of the World! I prefer the terrorist to be overseas and not on our homeland. Obama will give drivers licenses to 40 million illegal aliens.! Wow that’s working for the middle class and the poor. Wake up people Obama does not care about you. Obama only cares about himself.By You need to keep thinking
October 16, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this
“Let me finish with reminding all of you who has held the majority in Washington” (Thinkaboutit) Mmmmm, not quite. The Republicans held a majority in Congress from 1995-2006, seven of the nine Supreme Court justices have been appointed by Republican presidents and George Bush has been president for eight years. The dems get 2 years in Congress and that gives them a majority?? The truth is politicians on both sides of the aisle have been letting us down for a long time and people that just want to play the blame game and continue to not offer any new solutions will continue to let us down. Could somebody break a promise? Of course - we’re dealing with flawed politicians - but I’d rather accept the promise of a good plan than the guarantee of a bad one.By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
To: Lax20, Give me a break!!! I don’t blame others for my misfortunes, I have always taken responsibility for my four beautiful children and beautiful wife, in fact I have always worked hard sometimes three jobs as well as my wife. We got to where we are by hard work!!! we have never taken public assistance (not that thats wrong) but why take a hand-out when we are totally able to work, let the people who are in a worst position and/or physically can’t work use those benefits. To all those big headed college graduates who say “I have a college degree” well having a college degree doesn’t give you common since!!!this is not a crack on college graduates, I have the utmost resect for those who gave so that they could achieve, this is meant for those who say because they have a college degree “Their opinion is worth more weight” I’m not from Dayton and I also feel sorry for you because you are, but that sums up your blog, I bet you like your mayor too…LMAO…and your ending comment about the bengals sucking???????What does that have to do with anything were talking about today…..Hey everybody Lax20, thinks the Bengals suck…”Oh My gosh what are we going to do!!!!!LOLOLOL Lax20, you need some help Bud!!!!By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
To: Lax20, Give me a break!!! I don’t blame others for my misfortunes, I have always taken responsibility for my four beautiful children and beautiful wife, in fact I have always worked hard sometimes three jobs as well as my wife. We got to where we are by hard work!!! we have never taken public assistance (not that thats wrong) but why take a hand-out when we are totally able to work, let the people who are in a worst position and/or physically can’t work use those benefits. To all those big headed college graduates who say “I have a college degree” well having a college degree doesn’t give you common since!!!this is not a crack on college graduates, I have the utmost resect for those who gave so that they could achieve, this is meant for those who say because they have a college degree “Their opinion is worth more weight” I’m not from Dayton and I also feel sorry for you because you are, but that sums up your blog, I bet you like your mayor too…LMAO…and your ending comment about the bengals sucking???????What does that have to do with anything were talking about today…..Hey everybody Lax20, thinks the Bengals suck…”Oh My gosh what are we going to do!!!!!LOLOLOL Lax20, you need some help Bud!!!!By NYC Kid
October 16, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
I believe that it is intellectually bankrupt and morally wrong to use straw man arguments such as in many of the recent negative campaign ads. It hurts our democracy if our vote is influenced primarily by gross mischaracterizations of the candidate’s positions, voting record and personal history. A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent’s position. To “set up a straw man,” one describes a position that superficially resembles an opponent’s actual view, yet is easier to refute, then attributes that position to the opponent. Why don’t the republicans want us to decide how to cast our vote based on the candidate’s positions? Because an Obama presidency would be better for the majority of Americans. We need to invest in our country. If you think that everything is great in this country right now, then vote for McCain. Don’t be influenced by these thinly veiled appeals to fear of the “other”. If you don’t think Obama is one of us then you have a narrow view of what it is to be an American. If you seriously think he is a terrorist, it will seem strange to you when New York City, the target of the 9/11 attacks, votes overwhelmingly for Obama on November 4th. To those of you who believe you know the true Krygma, the message of Jesus, let that inform your vote. For those of us who do not possess that degree of certainty, we should ask ourselves what do we want for our children? Personally, I wish that no more abortions would be performed in this country. I believe that we were all born with free will and the ultimate responsibility for this decision is the individual’s. This seems to be a complex idea that has be lost in the oversimplified public debate on this issue. Goethe saw man is a battleground, with two grand adversaries claiming ownership, a sly metaphor for humanity’s lack of self-determination. Goethe would say that it is irrelevant whether God or the Devil wins, because in either case Man, Faust, loses. Religion, superstition, mythology—these are determining Man’s nature, depriving him of the free will that is his due.By NYC Kid
October 16, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
I believe that it is intellectually bankrupt and morally wrong to use straw man arguments such as in many of the recent negative campaign ads. It hurts our democracy if our vote is influenced primarily by gross mischaracterizations of the candidate’s positions, voting record and personal history. A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent’s position. To “set up a straw man,” one describes a position that superficially resembles an opponent’s actual view, yet is easier to refute, then attributes that position to the opponent. Why don’t the republicans want us to decide how to cast our vote based on the candidate’s positions? Because an Obama presidency would be better for the majority of Americans. We need to invest in our country. If you think that everything is great in this country right now, then vote for McCain. Don’t be influenced by these thinly veiled appeals to fear of the “other”. If you don’t think Obama is one of us then you have a narrow view of what it is to be an American. If you seriously think he is a terrorist, it will seem strange to you when New York City, the target of the 9/11 attacks, votes overwhelmingly for Obama on November 4th. To those of you who believe you know the true Krygma, the message of Jesus, let that inform your vote. For those of us who do not possess that degree of certainty, we should ask ourselves what do we want for our children? Personally, I wish that no more abortions would be performed in this country. I believe that we were all born with free will and the ultimate responsibility for this decision is the individual’s. This seems to be a complex idea that has be lost in the oversimplified public debate on this issue. Goethe saw man is a battleground, with two grand adversaries claiming ownership, a sly metaphor for humanity’s lack of self-determination. Goethe would say that it is irrelevant whether God or the Devil wins, because in either case Man, Faust, loses. Religion, superstition, mythology—these are determining Man’s nature, depriving him of the free will that is his due.By NYC Kid
October 16, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
I believe that it is intellectually bankrupt and morally wrong to use straw man arguments such as in many of the recent negative campaign ads. It hurts our democracy if our vote is influenced primarily by gross mischaracterizations of the candidate’s positions, voting record and personal history. A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent’s position. To “set up a straw man,” one describes a position that superficially resembles an opponent’s actual view, yet is easier to refute, then attributes that position to the opponent. Why don’t the republicans want us to decide how to cast our vote based on the candidate’s positions? Because an Obama presidency would be better for the majority of Americans. We need to invest in our country. If you think that everything is great in this country right now, then vote for McCain. Don’t be influenced by these thinly veiled appeals to fear of the “other”. If you don’t think Obama is one of us then you have a narrow view of what it is to be an American. If you seriously think he is a terrorist, it will seem strange to you when New York City, the target of the 9/11 attacks, votes overwhelmingly for Obama on November 4th. To those of you who believe you know the true Krygma, the message of Jesus, let that inform your vote. For those of us who do not possess that degree of certainty, we should ask ourselves what do we want for our children? Personally, I wish that no more abortions would be performed in this country. I believe that we were all born with free will and the ultimate responsibility for this decision is the individual’s. This seems to be a complex idea that has be lost in the oversimplified public debate on this issue. Goethe saw man is a battleground, with two grand adversaries claiming ownership, a sly metaphor for humanity’s lack of self-determination. Goethe would say that it is irrelevant whether God or the Devil wins, because in either case Man, Faust, loses. Religion, superstition, mythology—these are determining Man’s nature, depriving him of the free will that is his due.By john
October 16, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this
Turns out that Joe the Plumber would get a TAX CUT under Obama’s plan.By Alice
October 16, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
Ecartman: You totally miss Diane’s point, and arguing with it does you no good since you don’t understand the struggle most working people have day to day with HMOs and insurance companies. You simply attack Obama and can’t explain in ANY way how a McCain admin can positively effect the life of someone like Diane. You criticize Obama as a socialist but offer no other solutions to any of the problems, least of all healthcare. McCain said Obama just wants to throw money at the problems. What is McCain’s healthcare plan? Throwing money at the insurance companies. McCain acknowledges that healthcare costs are too high, so how does giving the taxpayer $5k to give to the insurance co. going to bring the costs down? Allowing us to cross state lines???? THAT’s the big solution???? Poll after poll favored dems and Obama on healthcare. MOST people like Diane don’t want a handout, they want a solution. If Obama’s plan is so bad, all McCain would have to do is come up with something better, but he doesn’t and you DON’T so if you don’t have anything to offer then you don’t have a right to complain.By ohiocatlover1
October 16, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
Sharon, I am NOT a clut follower of Obama’s and I have NOT been brain washed by his campaign people. Obama has a solid plan for this country unlike McCain. So are you saying that my sisters and my dad who are voting for Obama has been brain-washed and a cult follower. I have already voted for Obama.By upper middle class
October 16, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this
My spouse and I are in the upper 10% of the population. We are doing just fine. We will have to postpone our retirement a couple of years because of the stock market, but we will get there. Under the policies of the Bush Administration, with McCain has shown on his own web site that he will continue, the gap between the rich and the poor has grown. The number of people in poverty has grown because of policies that give advantages to the rich. (My family has benefited from them. Thanks, Suckers!) Where are these additional poor people coming from? The Middle Class! You and your kids! And my kids too. My daughter has been a teacher for 4 years and she is struggling. We paid for her undergraduate degree, so she doesn’t have that debt, but what about your kids? She does have to pay for a loan for her Masters, which teachers are required to get to maintain their license. Luckily for her, we are in the position to help her. How about your kids? You may think that we will vote for McCain to continue to reap the benefits of his pro-rich tax plan, but you would be wrong. Those kinds of policies hurt everyone in the long run. The Middle Class is the foundation of our country. We have to grow the Middle Class, not shrink it! Vote Obama/Biden!By ACORN
October 16, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this
I wonder if we illegal aliens will have a say in this election??By John F
October 16, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this
I find the neo-cons on here down right funny. Quick! The black helicopters are coming for you! I just an answer to one question: Why has John McCain hired as the leader of his WH transition team someone who has represented a known terrorist and maker of WMD’s (Saddam Hussein)? Why does McCain associate with known terrorists, and why does he hate this country?By John F
October 16, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this
I find the neo-cons on here down right funny. Quick! The black helicopters are coming for you! I just an answer to one question: Why has John McCain hired as the leader of his WH transition team someone who has represented a known terrorist and maker of WMD’s (Saddam Hussein)? Why does McCain associate with known terrorists, and why does he hate this country?By John
October 16, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
Note in the Joe/Plumber video that Obama is intellectually honest, frankly acknowledges the trade-offs in policy, and listens to the man. McCain expains nothing, and promises anything everything — shrinking taxes and vastly expanded benefits, like the mortgage bailout.By John
October 16, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
Note in the Joe/Plumber video that Obama is intellectually honest, frankly acknowledges the trade-offs in policy, and listens to the man. McCain expains nothing, and promises anything everything — shrinking taxes and vastly expanded benefits, like the mortgage bailout.By John
October 16, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this
Note in the Joe/Plumber video that Obama is intellectually honest, frankly acknowledges the trade-offs in policy, and listens to the man. McCain expains nothing, and promises anything everything — shrinking taxes and vastly expanded benefits, like the mortgage bailout.By The Media Ranger
October 16, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this
CoughKEATINGCoughCoughABRAMOFFCough*By Luke
October 16, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this
The quality of this blog has diminished to the same depths of disgusting despair as McCain’s campaign. Mixing politics with feigned religion, ignorance, sci-fi, conspiracy theories, and bigotry is a shame. Clearly a few bloghogs are commenting to themselves under multiple names. The DDN would serve us well by requiring user accounts with real email addresses in order to post. If you can remember the article associated with this blog, contribute by posting. If you looking for an outlet to spew juvenile, remedial rants, find a bathroom wall. To the issue: Obama has grown stronger while McCain has regressed. Last night was more of an Obama interview with McCain has heckler. It’s no wonder the GOP is beginning to pull funding from McCain’s campaign to help bolster winnable races.By tracey
October 16, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this
Have you noticed that after these debates, the VP nominees have been invited to both the Today Show and Good Morning America? Joe Biden comes and answers questions. Sarah Palin declines each time. That says a lot.By The Media Ranger
October 16, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
What really impresses me about Barack is his ability to stay cool in the face of attacks from a guy who doesn’t know how to hit above the belt. This is important when dealing with some of the world’s nutcase dictators, religious extremists (besides Palin) and fascists who have no interest in joining the world community. So when McCain got up on his high horse and demanded a full accounting of Barack “ties” to Bill Ayers and ACORN, Barack looked people straight in the eye and set the record straight. He’s a better man than I. In the same circumstances, I think I’d say something like this: “Glad to see you’re putting the negative campaigning behind you, Senator. This has been a non-story for weeks, and the American people would rather hear about our thoughts on real issues. So you can cram your demands, and I don’t intend to start naming names and demand that you account for your part in the acts that got them carted off to jail while you slithered off into the shadows. Now, go suck on it!”By tracey
October 16, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
Have you noticed that after these debates, the VP nominees have been invited to both the Today Show and Good Morning America? Joe Biden comes and answers questions. Sarah Palin declines each time. That says a lot.By Ecartman
October 16, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
G dubya- did you see that Ahmadinejad says he won’t meet with Obama without preconditions? LMAOBy ohiocatlover1
October 16, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this
Ann, I have already voted for Obama and I have a college degree. I am working on my second college degree, so are you saying that I don’t have a brain or intelligence. The reason that I voted for Obama is I was worried about sending my daughter to college in four years and Obama has put my concerns at ease. I have one sister who is a doctor and I have another sister who is teacher and they are votihg for Obama to, so are you saying that they along with my dad doesn’t have a brain or intelligence. I think that the country will be better off with Obama as our president then McCain.By Jim Cooper
October 16, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
If Obama wins the white house, we’re going to quit our jobs, sell whatever we can get out of our house, max out our credit cards and move to sunny California. There we’ll buy a house with an ocean front view and not even worry about how to pay for it, because Obama will take care of it. We’ll just sit and wait for YOUR WEALTH TO SPREAD out and pay for our bad decisions. We’ll eat poorly, take chances with our health and run up to the doctor every chance we can for all the “free” medicine that Obama will make sure will be available. Obama will take care of us all. Just like Stalin, Lenin, Krushef, and Putin. Along with the return of the USSR will be the birth of a new country … The USSA. Hiel, Mama Obama! Hiel, Mama Pelosi! Hiel, Mama Reid!By null
October 16, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
For those that fear Socialism…you have just seen your government buy up an insurance company and bail-out banks…this is the Republican version of Socialism…think about it…and do something different. Send a message to Washington—vote Obama/Biden and stand up for yourself. Don’t be a sheep and keep following the wrong crowd and expect different results. Change is coming—be a part of it.By Ecartman
October 16, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this
Diane- “Ask not what my country can do for me…” So you are going to vote for someone solely based on how he panders to your fears. Pay no mind to the fact that terrorists everywhere are heralding his presidency. Pay no mind to the fact that he has lied about his associations from the beginning. Pay no mind to the fact that you are selling your soul to a false messiah based on a few speeches. Did you know he made virtually the same promises to the people in Illinois…they are still waiting. He is an empty suit.By G.DUBYA
October 16, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this
Now some of you morons want to be led by a junior senator with no understanding of foreign policy or economics, and this nitwit says we should attack Pakistan, a nuclear ally. And then he wants to go to Iran and make peace with a terrorist who says he’s going to destroy us. While he’s doing that, he wants to give Iraq to al Qaeda, Afghanistan to the Taliban, Israel to the Palestinians, and your money to the IRS so the government can give welfare to illegal aliens, who he will make into citizens, so they can vote to re-elect him. He also thinks its okay for Iran to have nuclear weapons, and we should stop our foreign aid to Israel Did you sleep through high school? You idiots need to understand that we face a unique enemy. Back during the cold war, there were two major competing political and economic models squaring off. We won that war, but we did so because fundamentally, the Communists wanted to survive, just as we do. We were simply able to outspend and out-tech them. That’s not the case this time. The soldiers of our new enemy don’t care if they survive. In fact, they want to die. That’d be fine, as long as they weren’t also committed to taking as many of you with them as they can. But they are.By Joanie
October 16, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
Except for the annoying smirking, I think McCain actually did a decent job in this debate. His remark that he is not Bush was a good one. Of course, his policies are still the same as Bush’s on many issues. He said he will freeze spending but he will buy mortgages. You can’t do both things. His health care plan is horrible! And Palin! Eeek!! Obama is right to focus on jobs. That’s what we really need. His health care plan is the one that will help everyday Americans. McCain did have a better showing, but he certainly did not convince me. You Republicans need to give up on Acorn/Ayres. Nobody cares. Vote Obama/Biden!By Ecartman
October 16, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this
What will Obama do to our country? Socialism. “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs” (Karl Marx)”I just want to spread the wealth” Paying more tax is “neighborly” Barrack Hussein Obama Paying taxes is “patriotic” Joe BidenBy Diane
October 16, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this
I grew up in a single parent home, my mother struggled to finish college, and worked FT to support me. She developed Multiple Sclerosis as a young woman and couldn’t work. I saw first hand all the struggles that she went through and vowed I would do what I needed to do to make a better life for myself and family. I received my B.S. in 2006 and used student loans to do it. I work full time and have never been on welfare. I don’t have health insurance, and I make “too much money” (25,000) to receive state funded insurance. I have a child that I want to send to college one day. Can any of the McCain supporters tell me how he will help my family? I’m just curious. I’ve listened to all the debates, looked on both candidates websites, and done my research. For me the clear choice is Obama. I don’t make 250,000 a yr. so I won’t be taxed. I’ll be able to afford quality healthcare, and my son will have the opportunity to go to college. I’m not one of those people looking for a hand out, I don’t mind hard work,and I’ve sometimes had to work 2 jobs to make ends meet and to make sure my family is in a safe neighborhood and i’m Ok with that. I don’t see Mcain giving two red cents about regular people like me.By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this
To: Adult Brain, It was a joke refering to the sign stealers (DUH!!) although if I were talking about protecting my property and family, you betcha!!!What will you do when you wake up to find subjects perpetrating a home invasion in your house??? Their not there to bring you cookies!!!You will protect your family as you should by any and all means necessary. If you really believe I would shoot a sign stealer your just as stupid as your screen name “Adult Brain” people can joke and have fun while writing on this blog!!!!Have a great day, may you walk in peace!!!By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this
To: Adult Brain, It was a joke refering to the sign stealers (DUH!!) although if I were talking about protecting my property and family, you betcha!!!What will you do when you wake up to find subjects perpetrating a home invasion in your house??? Their not there to bring you cookies!!!You will protect your family as you should by any and all means necessary. If you really believe I would shoot a sign stealer your just as stupid as your screen name “Adult Brain” people can joke and have fun while writing on this blog!!!!Have a great day, may you walk in peace!!!By null
October 16, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this
What are you afraid of? A bigot is a person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own, and bigotry is the corresponding state of mind. Bigot is often used as a pejorative term against a person who is obstinately devoted to prejudices even when these views are challenged or proven to be false or not universally applicable or acceptable. The origin of the word bigot and bigoterie in English dates back to at least 1598, via Middle French, and started with the sense of “religious hypocrite”, especially a woman. Forms of bigotry may have a related ideology or world views.By No Way
October 16, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this
I’ll say what most people are afraid to say about Obama. I am not 100% sure that he does not have ties to middle eastern terrorists. I’ve done my homework and he has not fully disclosed information regarding his aquaintences. Because there is doubt in my mind about this, even though I like what he has to say, I will not vote for him. That is a chance I will not take.By The Media Ranger
October 16, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this
McCain reminded me of an angry old codger who has just been shut down by a pretty lady in a singles bar. I could just see the wheels turning, thinking about how he can swipe his fourth military jet and crash it into her house.By James
October 16, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this
OK, let’s embrace your fear. What will Obama do to our country if elected President? Become friends with our enemies? Ban Christianity? Arrest republicans? WHAT? Sheesh, enough with Republican fear-mongering; I’ve had enough of that since 2001. This isn’t the Hannity show…By Dixie Lady
October 16, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this
Last night did not really change any view points. As far as Joe the plumber-if he has $250,000 to buy a business he’s got more money than I do or any of my friends. What no license and you intend to run a plumbing business in Ohio- They’d better be checking him out.By M
October 16, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this
I am not saying I am against McCain’s health plan, and I like the suggestions for change from what we have now. But does anyone have similar concerns about his plan — will the average family have the leverage (vs. the leverage a corporation has) to negotiate and keep premium costs from insurance companies affordable and to ensure their family is adequately covered? McCain says you can choose plans from across America — will the average family have the time, the facts and the materials to evaluate 1000s of health plans and pick one that will really be advantageous for them? Will his tax credit to help with insurance costs be a yearly credit, or a one-time credit? And McCain mentions health savings accounts — which can be a good idea — but how can people afford to build up health savings accounts when many can’t even afford health insurance in the first place?By Reademall
October 16, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
I’ve read all the comments, and SCAREDTODEATH’s comment is right on the money. CHECK INTO IT PEOPLE! DON’T MAKE THE WORST MISTAKE OF OUR LIVES!!! Here is the comment:This election has me very worried. So many things to consider. I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with. About six months ago, I started thinking ‘where did the money come from for Obama’. I have two kids, and we were middle class, and money was tight. So I started looking into Obama’s life. Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. ‘Barry’ (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan . During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a ‘round the world’ trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia , next Hyderabad in India , three weeks in Karachi , Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate’s family, then off to Africa to visit his father’s family. My question - Where did he get the money for this trip? When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York. It is at this time he wants everyone to call him Barack - not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia? It’s not cheap! to say the least. Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia , he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000.. a year. Why Chicago ? Why not New York ? He was already living in New York . By ‘chance’ he met Antoin ‘Tony’ Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria , and a real estate developer in Chicago . Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. Rezko, was named ‘Entrepreneur of the Decade’ by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association’. About two years after, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for Law school? More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago . Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented ‘Rezar’ which is Rezko’s firm. Rezko was one of Obama’s first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with ‘seed money’ for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price). With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he get the money for the property? On the same day Rezko’s wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama’s new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko. Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama’s boss. She is now Obama’s chief adviser and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz , Iran ! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy? On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was ‘sacked’ after the press found out he was having regular contacts with ‘Hamas’, which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran . This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama’s visit to Iraq , he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will ‘Take care of things’. Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan ? They are in charge of all those ‘small’ Internet campaign contribution for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East ? And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on ‘This Week’ with George Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, ‘My Muslim faith’. When questioned, ‘he made a mistake’. Some mistake! All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times -Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008. Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own, Why haven’t all of our ‘intelligent’ members of the press been reporting this? A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear - ‘Beware of the enemy from within’!!!By Ecartman
October 16, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this
Alinsky’s radicals found a perfect vehicle for their destruction of the American system and more particularly for taking and maintaining power. That instrument was the Democratic Party. (Newsmax)By adult brain
October 16, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this
Another petrified Republican ranting that Liberals will take their rights away. They definately need the right to protect their home from sign stealers….Blow them away with your shot gun and what an unchristian comment, God bless the right to protect your property. I bet GOD would be so proud of you. Also, Obama did not salute the Star spangled banner which you do not have to. They were not saying the pledge of allegiance and did anyone notice Mccain did not have his flag on his jacket. Wasn’t that another of their comments of Obama not being a patriot. Well he had his on but Mccain did not.By James
October 16, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this
Voting for McCain? Are you kidding me!? I mean, what part of the past 8 years of Republican boondoggle hasn’t changed anyone’s mind? They’re not conservatives, so that can’t be your real vote. How can you vote for that guy? Didn’t any of you watch the debate? How can you take McCain seriously? He yammers on and on and doesn’t listen to an answer. Obama might as well have been talking to a wall, but fortunately he looked directly into the camera and talked the public instead of that patronizing geazer.By Ecartman
October 16, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution. To bring on this reformation requires that the organizer work inside the system, among not only the middle class but the 40 per cent of American families - more than seventy million people - whose income range from $5,000 to $10,000 a year [in 1971]. They cannot be dismissed by labeling them blue collar or hard hat. They will not continue to be relatively passive and slightly challenging. If we fail to communicate with them, if we don’t encourage them to form alliances with us, they will move to the right. Maybe they will anyway, but let’s not let it happen by default.” Saul AlinskyBy adult brain
October 16, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this
Another petrified Republican ranting that Liberals will take their rights away. They definately need the right to protect their home from sign stealers….Blow them away with your shot gun and what an unchristian comment, God bless the right to protect your property. I bet GOD would be so proud of your redneck ways.By Annie
October 16, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this
Only those who lack intelligence and a brain to think for themself would vote for Barrack Hussein Obama. If they would simply get past the “political correctness” of wanting to vote for an African-American and look at the ISSUES, they would actually see what a liberal, over taxing, inexperienced (yet good speaker) he is. I have zero respect for those who cannot see the issues and just for for (or against) race. And yes, I see racism on BOTH sides. I have yet to see or hear of an African/American voting for McCain because they are likely afraid to admit it. Most would feel it is wrong to vote against their race. How stupid is that? AnnaBy Glus
October 16, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this
John F, who will you vote for then??By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this
To: Leslie well said!!! But don’t blame the liberal democrats!!! This is what they do, they hide things, they blame everyone else, they take us for fools!!!!! I will have several Mccain/palin signs in my front yard let some one come amd vandalize my property!!!!They will be met with 12 gauge and his little brother 40 cal….God bless the right to protect your property, well until Obama takes that away too…It’s great to live in Ohio, where the castle law is alive and well….By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this
To: Leslie well said!!! But don’t blame the liberal democrats!!! This is what they do, they hide things, they blame everyone else, they take us for fools!!!!! I will have several Mccain/palin signs in my front yard let some one come amd vandalize my property!!!!They will be met with 12 gauge and his little brother 40 cal….God bless the right to protect your property, well until Obama takes that away too…It’s great to live in Ohio, where the castle law is alive and well….By John F
October 16, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this
I seriously think McCain has Alzheimer’s disease. There is no other way to explain his dramatic pandering to the looney-bin element of his party- the neocons. This group of Jesus freaks are exactly why I quit the Republican party. They hijacked the party and forced true conservatives like myself out. Neo-cons are nothing more than neo-nazis under the banner of “Jesus”…By adultbrain
October 16, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
I am tired of hearing this trumped up charge against ACORN of voter fraud. There is some registration fraud where they are hired and paid to REGISTER people to vote. Of course there are some who illegally make them up to meet quota for $$. Let’s say Joe Smith. This is wrong and should not happen but it is not voter fraud. No one will show up at the poles to vote. There was no Joe Smith.. Thus no voter fraud. People need to check the facts. There is acutally very little voter fraud. Perhaps they need to worry more about people being blocked from voting. Such as if your house is in foreclosure, being stopped from voting or as Ohio had in 2004 not enough voting machines in key Democratic areas. That is called voter manipulation.By adultbrain
October 16, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
I am tired of hearing this trumped up charge against ACORN of voter fraud. There is some registration fraud where they are hired and paid to REGISTER people to vote. Of course there are some who illegally make them up to meet quota for $$. Let’s say Joe Smith. This is wrong and should not happen but it is not voter fraud. No one will show up at the poles to vote. There was no Joe Smith.. Thus no voter fraud. People need to check the facts. There is acutally very little voter fraud. Perhaps they need to worry more about people being blocked from voting. Such as if your house is in foreclosure, being stopped from voting or as Ohio had in 2004 not enough voting machines in key Democratic areas. That is called voter manipulation.By adultbrain
October 16, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
I am tired of hearing this trumped up charge against ACORN of voter fraud. There is some registration fraud where they are hired and paid to REGISTER people to vote. Of course there are some who illegally make them up to meet quota for $$. Let’s say Joe Smith. This is wrong and should not happen but it is not voter fraud. No one will show up at the poles to vote. There was no Joe Smith.. Thus no voter fraud. People need to check the facts. There is acutally very little voter fraud. Perhaps they need to worry more about people being blocked from voting. Such as if your house is in foreclosure, being stopped from voting or as Ohio had in 2004 not enough voting machines in key Democratic areas. That is called voter manipulation.By Leslie
October 16, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this
SCRANTON – The agent in charge of the Secret Service field office in Scranton said allegations that someone yelled “kill him” when presidential hopeful Barack Obama’s name was mentioned during Tuesday’s Sarah Palin rally are unfounded. Agent Bill Slavoski said he was in the audience, along with an undisclosed number of additional secret service agents and other law enforcement officers and not one heard the comment. “I was baffled,” he said after reading the report in Wednesday’s Times-Tribune. Are a few activists on the right getting out of hand? Probably. Between massive ACORN voter fraud, Bill Ayers’ and Jeremiah Wright’s unrepentant hatred of America, and John McCain’s inability to nail Barack Obama on his longtime alliances with all of the above, conservatives have plenty to shout about these days. But a couple of random catcallers do not a mob make. And there’s an overflowing abundance of electoral rage on the left that won’t make it onto your newspaper’s front page. Last month on the Upper West Side of Manhattan, a small, brave contingent of McCain supporters marched through the streets with campaign signs. They were met by a menacing horde of New Yorkers who displayed their disapproval with a barrage of jeers and vulgar gestures. (“The number of middle fingers in the ‘progressive crowd’ is directly proportional to the number of Ph.D. degrees in the 10-block radius,” one of the witnesses wryly observed.) A YouTube video of the confrontation now has nearly half a million views (www.youtube.com and search “Pro-McCain March in Manhattan”). But don’t expect to find it on the nightly news. It doesn’t fit the Angry Right narrative. Neither does the near-riotous reaction of Obama supporters to a McCain-Palin sign in Democrat-dominated Prince George’s County, Md. Buried in a back local section, The Washington Post reported this week that “pandemonium” broke loose when an unsuspecting businessman erected a “Country First. McCain/Palin.” message on the marquee at his Colony South Hotel & Conference Center. “Operators of neighborhood e-mail group lists cried foul to their memberships. The NAACP logged calls. Community leaders demanded boycotts of the hotel, a common venue for Democratic events,” the little-noticed article reported. A black professor called the sign “a stink bomb in the middle of the living room” of Obama land. The poor hotel manager, Alan Vahabzadeh, surrendered. “I didn’t even realize it was going to be like this.” Can’t blame him for missing the fiery hint from Portland, Ore. — where two deranged vandals were arrested after throwing a Molotov cocktail at a McCain yard sign in the middle of the night. Nope, that didn’t make it into the columns of Rich, Dionne or Krugman. Doesn’t fit the Angry Right narrative. Speaking of “violent escalation of rhetoric” you never hear about: Obama supporters in Philadelphia sported “Sarah Palin is a [disgusting vulgarism referring to female genitalia]” T-shirts and yelled, “Let’s stone her, old school” over the weekend. An Internet artist has designated Palin an “M.I.L.P.” — “Mother I’d Like to Punch” — and published a drawing of a man’s fist knocking a tooth out of the Alaska governor’s mouth and the glasses off her face. “ABORT Palin” graffiti has sprouted on the sidewalks of Seattle, and “Abort Sarah Palin” bumper stickers are spreading in Web stores. — Palin-bashing Madonna performs before an audience of thousands, screeching and threatening to “kick her a**.” — Getty Images publishes a photo of a man pointing a fake gun at the head of a cardboard cutout of Palin on display at the Brooklyn Waterfront Artists Coalition building. And no one blinks. Not a peep from the Obamedia. But when Palin simply spotlights Obama’s longtime relationship with Weather Underground terrorist Bill “We Didn’t Do Enough” Ayers? “Inciting violence,” frets NBC reporter Ron Allen. “Concerned … for Sen. Obama’s safety,” agonizes ABC reporter Terry Moran. “Beyond the pale,” cries Obama campaign manager David Plouffe. As if the no-holds-barred Obama campaign has ever had a rhetorical pale to stake.By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
To: Scott, well put my man!!! I’m with you!!! America is going to be very suprised when the republicans vote (legally at that) on Nov. 04,,,Go McCain!!!!By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this
To: Scott, well put my man!!! I’m with you!!! America is going to be very suprised when the republicans vote (legally at that) on Nov. 04,,,Go McCain!!!!By Ecartman
October 16, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this
You’re right, the Bengals are terrible…in part because of all the players with such poor character;)By Jim
October 16, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this
“Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation.” This is a direct quote from John McCain from a 2007 magazine interview. McCain will also tax all of your employee health care benefits given to you by your employer. And McCain says he for the working guy? Really?By Ecartman
October 16, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
My faith isn’t at issue. I never claimed to be anything. My point is that to be “Christian” means to be like Christ. All fall short, as we are mere humans. But no one can seriously assume that Jesus would in any way shape or form support killing babies! Obama voted TWICE to allow botched abortion survivors to die! This is one of many instances of what poor character this man has. I maintain that for this man to call himself “Christian” is a disservice to genuine Christians.By thinaboutit
October 16, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
They said last nite that 47 million ppeople don’t have insurance. That means that 260 million people do!!! So 85% of americans do have insurance. They say unemployment is at 6% so that means 94% of americans have jobs, give or take a few percentage points, sounds like were moving in the right direction!!!!By thinaboutit
October 16, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this
They said last nite that 47 million ppeople don’t have insurance. That means that 260 million people do!!! So 85% of americans do have insurance. They say unemployment is at 6% so that means 94% of americans have jobs, give or take a few percentage points, sounds like were moving in the right direction!!!!By TRS
October 16, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this
From 1964 to the mid 90s, government did “for the least of these” and what happened? It created an underclass which is still struggling to come out rom underneath the entitlement mentality which was created during these times. Is that caring for the poor as Christ would intend NCY Kid - by creating more? Certainly there has been excesses in business but what is the difference between excess in business and excess in governmental bureaucracy? Businesses are forced to change to complete. Buracracies seek to perpetuate themselves for survival. Unions are a perfect example. There is a place for unions because companies need that balance; but, unions which fail to recognize the competitive world and simply want to rebuilt themselves based on the past will make us less competitive. They need an overhaul in the worst way; yet, all they are trying to do is sustain themselves and regain power through legislation and intimidation rather than create a market for themselves as they did in their early days. Now, the most powerful unions are public employees and we all know who pays their salaries - you and I. The debate isn’t whether the “least of these” should be cared for - it is how best to do it? Support them via government or give them the tools to work their way to a better life much like “thinkaboutit” apparently has done. That is the opportunity most poor seek. For those who are unable to do so because of physical or mental issues, society is obliged to care for them. For those that are lazy and want to work the system (and I would believe them to be a very distinct minority of a very few people), then check out Proverbs NYCKid - its speaks about such an attitude as well.By Really?
October 16, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
ANM…It has never been proven who told the vietnamese about his father. It was not there intelligence…another of the POW american ratted McCain out and said the John told him he did. Think about it. Saving his own a*s once again. NOT HONORABLE!!!! Get over your military BS and admit that his military service is doubtful and a serious question…sounds like W…By Scott
October 16, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
Look the election is nearing the corner and so many people are talking about who out shined who in the debates, well we all know Barack Hussein Obama can talk himself out of any situation, we all know that Barack Hussein Obama is the liberal media’s savior. We all know that Hollywood and it’s cronies all think that Barack Hussein Obama is their rising star, and we hear it daily from every liberal democrat how Barack Hussein Obama is going to lead this country in the right direction, We hear how Barack Hussein Obama is the man we need to bring change to Washington. We see how the liberal media attack’s John McCain and calls him just another George W. Bush, and the vicious attacks from the liberal media on Vice Presidential candidate Alaskan Gov. Sarah Palin. Also we hear all the blame laid out upon George W. Bush, how he is the worst President in the history of the Unites States and that he is the reason for the economic woes we are all facing today… Ok .. let’s do a bit of Political Science 101. First of all, the President of the United States can not pass anything through without the approval of Congress, … The Harry Reid - Nancy Pelosi - Do nothing congress is the reason for the economic issues, the wallstreet nightmares, the Freddie and Fannie we can get rich off of giving very high risk very poor credit history American families loans for houses that are way above their means…. I can speak from experience on this one…. stop listening to the media, open your eyes and pay attention what is really going on around here… between the R.I.N.O.’s (Republican in name only…. thanks Pat) and the Do Nothing Congress, the only thing standing in their way of total control is the Minority unpopular republicans such as John Boehner, Steve Chabot, and others that are providing a firewall of protection for US,…. the American citizens to stop all of this left Wing government controls all agenda that the democrats are trying to put into place. it’s not George W., or John “The maverick” McCain” that is the problem, yeah some bad decisions have been made, but what presidency hasn’t…… Well besides the Clinton era, where we now know oral sex is not sex at all and that it is not immoral… but that is a whole other issue, any ways come November I am hearing allot of people on the fence saying we need a complete change, we need to unseat all republicans and get a fully democratically controlled congress, you add Barack Obama as the next President of the United States to this mix, and oh man are we in for it, because nothing will be able to stop their agenda of more government, higher taxes, and fully liberal supreme court….. God help us now! Well people IT”S TIME TO WAKE UP….. How many liberal media reporters or CBS, NBC, CNN, all this Left Wing Liberal media stations have questioned Barack Obama on any of the things that have been brought up, such as his Anti-American hating pastor of 20 YEARS Rev. Jeremiah Wright, or what about how his first election was won because he ran unopposed after his legal cronies knocked all other candidates from the ballot due to technical issues.. How about the Chicago Machine .. Political movement that put him in Office…. Now the new ACORN ties, research people, research… the media is not going to tell us anything and certainly Barack Hussein Obama is not, or as he used to be known “Barry”.. Well I did some research and the things I have found are just completely appalling, this man that the liberals want to be the next President of the United States, the man who thinks it is OK not to place his hand over his heart during the pledge of allegiance or the national anthem… This man whose wife says openly “Finally I for the first time in my life and proud to be called an American.” This is the new Presidential family we want to put into office……. man why can’t people see this man for who he really is….. Now I do not believe he is the Anti-Christ not one bit, and as my brother eloquently put in one of his emails, from Revelations Chap. 13 , this is not what is said……… But I do believe the election of this man and his Anti-hating American agenda will be the destruction of this country that so many of us have worn the uniform proudly for years to protect…By Obama/Biden '08
October 16, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
Thinkaboutit: Aren’t you just a noble person? You must make a living sticking up for losers for example: McCain and Ecartman you probably think the Bengals are doing real well this year!!!By Thinkabouit
October 16, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
To: Obama/Biden 08, So was your man “Clinton” he was an adulterer too. You must have forgotten about all his affairs, what about the one in the white house!!!!LOLOLOL your a joke!!!By Thinkabouit
October 16, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
To: Obama/Biden 08, So was your man “Clinton” he was an adulterer too. You must have forgotten about all his affairs, what about the one in the white house!!!!LOLOLOL your a joke!!!By Jim
October 16, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this
How many of you on this board get health care through their employer? Do you really the government to tax your health care benefits as income as McCain wants? Do you want to have to purchase a family health care plan for 12k while only getting a 5k tax credit? Do you all realize how McCain’s plan is going to impact you financially? John McCain has stated he wants to deregulate the heath care industry just like he did with banking. Our health care is too important to turn it over to the greedy.By Obama/Biden '08
October 16, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this
Ecartman- How dare you question someones faith!!! Last I checked it isn’t up to you. If you live your life so “perfect” then why didn’t you run for President? I guess it is easy for you to turn a blind eye to the fact that your boy McCain was/is an adulterer.By Ecartman
October 16, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
We as Americans cannot allow criminals to subvert our election. That’s why we’re asking you to sign our petition calling on the Secretaries of State in states with potentially fraudulent activity to do everything in their power to ensure that our votes are protected. Please stand up and be counted so that your vote will be counted in November. Sign the petition at defendmyvote.comBy Jim
October 16, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
Thinkaboutit, I don’t know where you’re coming up with the notion that Obama will spend your money. He’s only raising taxes on those making OVER 250k. Also, if you get health insurance through your police department, it’s now going to be considered Taxable Income. A family plan runs around 12k. McCain’s 5k tax credit won’t offset that cost. Don’t you see how he’s pandering to wealthy? Don’t be fooled that somehow McCain is more “patriotic” then Obama. All McCain cares about is lining the pockets of the wealthy.By McCainGirl
October 16, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
Amen Reggie!!!!!By who are you?
October 16, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
I want to vote for NYC Kid, Best I have ever read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1By Crazytimes
October 16, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
Randy..I’m with you..I don’t care for either also but I don’t think I would want Hilary either. We need some one that has proven in the past that they can make a diffence and one that has good morals with a God fearing background and attitude…someone that everyone can trust and have confidence in!By Reggie98ud
October 16, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
Ohiocatlover1: Factcheck.org is a left-wing propaganda tool. No, BO did not start his Presidential campaign in Ayers living room it was BO’s campaign for the Il. State Senate. BO touts his experience as a “Community Organizer” as his big “executive” experience. He was working for ACORN at that time! Something stinks in the Dumbocrat Party, must be the BO!!By Nova
October 16, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
What is going on here is that people have forgotten to put their money where their mouth is. By that I mean that we need to put our tax money into the social welfare programs that aid those that have less than they need. Jesus told us that the most important commandment is to love you neighbor as yourself. Am I loving my neighbor if I gripe and groan about paying 30 percent income tax to help pay for things like pre-natal care for a young mom who chose not to abort? Am I loving my neighbor if I declare that they somehow deserve to be poor while I live high on the hog? And just to go off on a tangent real quick, when did pride stop being a sin?By randy
October 16, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this
to be honest i dont really like either i would have prefered hillaryBy Jim
October 16, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this
Obama clearly has the better ideas on how to take our country forward. McCain wants to privatize and deregulate the health care system. A 5k tax credit will not cover the cost of a decent health care plan, and McCain will TAX your employer paid benefits. This would be disaster for the middle class. McCain talks about lowering taxes, but it’s only for the very wealthy and big companies. He offers nothing for anyone making less then 200k a year. The Republicans use religion to rally their base, while in reality they pander to the wealthy. Obama is the clear choice in this election.By Thinkabouit
October 16, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
My mother raised three children with no help from my dead beat father, yes we were on welfare and without it we would have starved, it is a need for people who need it temporarily!!! I had children at a young age (18). I have never been on welfare, athough laid off twice, my wife once, both at the same time. We didn’t go on welfare we went to work, I worked three jobs while putting myself through the police academy, worked for free for several months as a reserve officer to get experience. We have made sacrifices to get where we are and know Obama wants to spend more of our money, No thanks…My sister put herself through college and graduated she could be making big bucks but no she wants to serve in the military and give back!!! My wife works hard full time and works even harder at home…Like we all do trying to raise our children right!!!We have all had it tough during our lives and we all pay for the corupt politicians who blame the other guy. I don’t blame anyone I’m happy that we had it tough, It makes us appreciate the good things we took for granted….We all have a part in our current situation, and we all have a part in the future…Vote McCain, he is for country and that includes me and my family….God bless our soldiers and our public service brothers and sisters keep up the good work!!!!By Thinkabouit
October 16, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
My mother raised three children with no help from my dead beat father, yes we were on welfare and without it we would have starved, it is a need for people who need it temporarily!!! I had children at a young age (18). I have never been on welfare, athough laid off twice, my wife once, both at the same time. We didn’t go on welfare we went to work, I worked three jobs while putting myself through the police academy, worked for free for several months as a reserve officer to get experience. We have made sacrifices to get where we are and know Obama wants to spend more of our money, No thanks…My sister put herself through college and graduated she could be making big bucks but no she wants to serve in the military and give back!!! My wife works hard full time and works even harder at home…Like we all do trying to raise our children right!!!We have all had it tough during our lives and we all pay for the corupt politicians who blame the other guy. I don’t blame anyone I’m happy that we had it tough, It makes us appreciate the good things we took for granted….We all have a part in our current situation, and we all have a part in the future…Vote McCain, he is for country and that includes me and my family….God bless our soldiers and our public service brothers and sisters keep up the good work!!!!By randy
October 16, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
come on people mccain clearly won this one i dont think its right of obama to keep putting george w bushs mistakes and problems on mccainBy Reaganism
October 16, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this
dan: I didn’t say there were no problems with the current system. Obviously there are problems. But let’s fix those problems by adding proper oversight and regulations when they’re required (i.e. Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac). But imposing new taxes on the majority of companies is not the way (I believe I’ve read something like 95% of all companies have more than $250k in revenue). Cutting of your nose to spite your face is not the way to go here.By Crazytimes
October 16, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this
That is another thing I get tired of hearing….black and white!! Who cares! Just because someone thinks Obama is Muslim or disagrees with his views does not mean they do not like him for his color!! I know for myself if Obama was as white as snow it would not change my opinion about him!By Ecartman
October 16, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
Glus- BO likes to say that the overwhelming no. of small businesses do not make 250k. He is right, but only because that includes people who sell avon, baskets, and babysitters and so on. However, the vast majority of small businesses that have employees DO make 250k or more. Employers aren’t going to just eat the loss. They will raise prices, cut jobs or benefits.By ????
October 16, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
President Bush was on watch and the ship blew (9-11 and the wallstreet meltdown). It does not matter when the ship started sinking, it only matters who is in charge at the time. If Gore had been voted in 2000 then it would have been his problem. Hence Bush will go down as one of the worst President in history aka the lowest approval rating.By Heidi
October 16, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
For all of you democratic hate mongers: If you elect Obama into the whitehouse, he will bring this country down from the inside. FACT- Obama attended Friday prayers at Mosque with his step dad. That sounds Islamic to me. He actually slipped in an interview and said “My Islamic Faith” it is on You Tube- look it up. Ayers said in 2001 that he did not do enough in his bombing- rehabilitate- I think not. You idiots voting for Obama will regret it when this country is given over to the terroists. All of Republican “Mongers” will stand back and say told you so. As for the Economy being Bushes fault- you need to go back and take a college economics class. The economy cycles in 20 year patterns with all time high prices then crashing to allow for a readjustment. All Bush did was put money back in my pocket- What a terrible thing to do. If Obama wins the country will come crashing down within 18 months- Let me guess that will be Bushes fault too.By Heidi
October 16, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
For all of you democratic hate mongers: If you elect Obama into the whitehouse, he will bring this country down from the inside. FACT- Obama attended Friday prayers at Mosque with his step dad. That sounds Islamic to me. He actually slipped in an interview and said “My Islamic Faith” it is on You Tube- look it up. Ayers said in 2001 that he did not do enough in his bombing- rehabilitate- I think not. You idiots voting for Obama will regret it when this country is given over to the terroists. All of Republican “Mongers” will stand back and say told you so. As for the Economy being Bushes fault- you need to go back and take a college economics class. The economy cycles in 20 year patterns with all time high prices then crashing to allow for a readjustment. All Bush did was put money back in my pocket- What a terrible thing to do. If Obama wins the country will come crashing down within 18 months- Let me guess that will be Bushes fault too.By Lax20
October 16, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
Thinkaboutit: Your entire post is what makes me sad to be from Dayton,Ohio. You said in your post the Democrats always have an excuse or cast blame elsewhere. Your narrative summed it up so eloquently. You a typical ‘Republican Pumper’ lived up to my expectations as casting blame in all directions, but your own. Always in denial and never seeing the big picture. I must ‘Pump’ the party line according to you. The dribble is getting old and has no merit. Please read the post put up by Kenny at 9:57AM. He is a true American and has a grasp of what this country needs. Not the same old ‘Republican Pumper’ trash you and your fellow dribblers spew out of your mouths or backside. Remember the Bengals and ‘Republican Pumpers’ have something ino common. Yu are both LOSERS!!!By Mrs.AMoore
October 16, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this
Ecartman…So are your trying to say McCain is a Christian? Although God may not approve of homosexuality and abortion, it’s seems the GOP has made those THE ONLY issues that God apparently cares about. What about LOVE THY NEIGHBOR and THOU SHALT NOT JUDGE? GOP candidates don’t support policies that shine the light of either of these mandates from GOD! Or fornication, for that matter, (ie unwed pregnant daughter) Fornication is a sin too…..but I guess since it doesn’t fit the GOP agenda, God has scraped it too? I am so glad the GOP is an authority for which sins and virtues GOD believes in.By nyc
October 16, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
excuse me I thought you wanted FACTS and the truth is McCain is a hot head and philander who only made in the Navy and in Politics on the backs of others! Even the Reagans turned against and his bad conduct and behavior!By Crazytimes
October 16, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this
Isn’t it amazing that out of all times a recession could happen that it happens close to election time??!!By NYC Kid
October 16, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this
We do not have a free market capitalist economy. BOTH parties redistribute wealth. Republicans take money from taxpayers and give it to defense contractors, oil companies and the healthcare industry. YOU have to decide who needs the help most right now American business or the American people. The last eight years has been a money grab by the banks and the oil companies. Don’t those who work for a living deserve to share in the prosperity of our great country? Do you want to live in a country where parents have to work long hours for low wages and when they finally get home they are too exhausted to give their kids the attention and support they need. how about the redistribution of time? Parents need to have the time to help their children do well in school and make good decisions in life. It is all about what kind of country you want to live in. European countries that Republicans would consider Socialist spend less on education and get better results. We have had elements of Socialism in our country for 100 years. Social Security is everybody’s favorite socialist program. We need to take care of our people to have a country that is a decent place to live. Overworked, overstressed, underinsured parents sending their unprepared kids to violent, underperforming schools will only result in more poverty and crime. Economic inequality and lack of opportunity are two of the factors that produce criminality and political instability. I would rather live in Stockholm than Mexico City. To the people who keep saying that Obama is some kind of Manchurian Candidate Muslim, just stop. If you can’t vote for someone with African ancestry, just say that. If you can’t vote for Obama because he is pro-choice, I can respect your decision but who will help the kids who are already here more? Live is not always so black and white. I believe that many Christians have been led astray by the cynical, divisive politics of recent years. Old Testament judgement and wrath for those who we do not agree with and New Testament love and forgiveness only for those who share our beliefs. The rich that control this country have no problem using religion to tear this country apart. A great distraction while they loot the US Government for all they can get. What should Government do? Ensure some degree of fairness in the economy or give taxpayer money to large corporations who cut jobs and outsource production to low wage countries ruled by dictators to sacrifice good paying American jobs for higher stock prices and big bonuses for themselves. Governments need to enforce the rules in the economy so that big corporations gain too much influence in the society. Big Corporations have lobbyists and pile of cash to influence the government to get the most favorable legislation for them. Our government should represent those who don’t have lobbyists or piles of cash. If you think only Socialists would talk about fairness and concern for the less fortunate, you may have forgotten that in Matthew 25:45 Jesus said “I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me”.By Glus
October 16, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
Slick Barry, either lied or he doesn’t know what he is talking about when he said last night that the majority of small businesses in this country make LESS than $250,000 per year. That is dead wrong. That might be true if you only employ 2 or 3 people. Do the math. By the time you pay 2 or 3 salaries plus your own salary and expenses, and make a profit, you are already at or above $250K. 250K is not much for a successful business to make. I don’t think the majority of small businesses employ 2 or 3 people. I believe he is relying on the fact that most people won’t do the math. If you do the research you will find that the majority of small businesses make OVER $250K. No one has called him on this major flaw on his policy of “income redistribution”.By M
October 16, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
McCain acted like a complete and rude jerk last night. Rolling eyes, smirking — he even had “crazy eyes” a few times — I was wondering if he was going to explode and start choking Obama! I can see the SNL skit now… I think McCain is jealous and resentful of Obama.By Ray
October 16, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
I wonder if anyone here really knows what they are talking about. It’s only natural that Dems root for Obama and GOP for McCain. No one knows the real facts because the left wing media won’t let you know the real truth. Both parties are not bad people and I think both want to help America. They both just have different ideas as how to do it. So, who really knows who would be best? No one in here does, thats for sure. Just quit griping people and just like everything else, grin and bear it. None of us will win what we really want and thats a good every day life.By Iknownow
October 16, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
To: Thinkaboutit, you are a very smart guy, I like the way you articulate yourself……You democrats have helped me to make up my mind with your narrow thinking, I’M voting McCain, does anyone know where I can get some McCain/Palin Signs for my yard.By Iknownow
October 16, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
To: Thinkaboutit, you are a very smart guy, I like the way you articulate yourself……You democrats have helped me to make up my mind with your narrow thinking, I’M voting McCain, does anyone know where I can get some McCain/Palin Signs for my yard.By ????
October 16, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this
There you go. Two possiblities of where the money came from for school. Money from weathy step dad or grandparent. But not all familys will hand out money. So it goes back to SCHOLARSHIPS for being disadvantage and/or for being smart.By Ecartman
October 16, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
Obama may not be the antichrist, he may not be muslim, but he is DEFINITELY NOT a Christian! The only religion he practices is Obamanism. Whatever it takes to move up the ladder. He most certainly isn’t Christian. To say that he is is an insult to real Christians everywhere. WWJD? Would Jesus say that “if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.” Would Jesus support allowing abortion survivors being allowed to die in the trash? Jesus said, “in as much as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.” Obama won’t even help his destitute brother in Kenya. He is a lot of things, but Christian he is not.By Dan
October 16, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this
Reagonism: This is the same philosophy the Bush Administration has and I guess it has worked to perfection. The middle class is becoming non-existent. Most will fall, but some will manage to move up. GAO(General Accounting Office) reported from 1997-2005 that 68% of all corporations paid no corporate income taxes, that means $0. This includes foreign corporations conducting business on US soil. How dare we as Americans ask them to pledge their fair share. What would happen if 68% of Americans did not pay their tax liabilities?By ANM
October 16, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
Really?? : Free Pass!!??? Is that why when he was being held in vietnam they realized who his father was and wanted to release him, he chose to stay behind for 5 MORE YEARS because he refused to leave his men behind??? That’s pretty d*mn honorable if you ask me!!!By nyc really?
October 16, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this
nyc: Really, serious??? You’re telling us to review one of the most extreme liberal magazines in the world to get an unbiased view of a Repubilcan. Why not just ask Obama who he’s voting for and see if he picks McCain…By nyc really?
October 16, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this
nyc: Really, serious??? You’re telling us to review one of the most extreme liberal magazines in the world to get an unbiased view of a Repubilcan. Why not just ask Obama who he’s voting for and see if he picks McCain…By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
To LAX20, Hey bud your right the democrats have only been in control for two years. We can’t blame them!!! YOU READY, I’m getting ready to rip you apart!!!! Ok Bush wasn’t in the white house two years before the economy started to get hit in 2001 or when New York was hit in 2001, but yet you’ll blame him for that…WOW double standard democrat boy!!!Lets not blame any of this on the signing of NAFTA by Clinton (Democrat) lets not blame Clinton for the planning of 9/11 which was planned in its entirety on his watch…Well how could he when his eyes were closed gettin busy in the oval office!!!!You democrats want to blame Bush for everything how typical, yes I agree we could have done better….But guess what McCain isn’t Bush…Did anyone see Obamas face last night when McCain said that??? PRICELESS!!!!Let me finish with reminding all of you who has held the majority in Washington…THE DEMOCRATS, what have they done!!!! I tell you, look at us now!!!! The only thing Obama will do in office is spend four years blaming the other guy!!!!Lets vote McCain and get something done, proven track record, proven patriot, proven american (who does salute the flag!!)this man can get it done….or vote Obama who blames society for his misfortunes, blames everyone else for the problems of the world, who didn’t vote or draft any meaningful legislation why you ask??? cause he didn’t want to hurt his chances of being president… he doesn;t do anything because he doesn’t want to take responsibility when it goes bad!!!! Remember this: It’s it is better to not talk and be thought of as an idiot rather than open your mouth and be known as an idiot!!!This is Obamas way, It is better to do nothing in Washington and not be held responsible then to do many wonderful things and be blamed for a few mistakes….Obama can’t be blamed for doing nothing or can he???? Lets show him on Nov 4th that we want action not inaction…..Vote mcCain!!!!By nyc
October 16, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
Glus get your facts straight the only reason McCain lived thru Hanoi Hilton was because he gave up info including the fact that his Dad was in charge of the Naval Fleet and he did it only to save his own butt. He then proceeded to come home and dump his wife for a younger woman with money. Wow that something to be proud of! He is a crook just like Bush research the Keating 5 and see who got the money!By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
To LAX20, Hey bud your right the democrats have only been in control for two years. We can’t blame them!!! YOU READY, I’m getting ready to rip you apart!!!! Ok Bush wasn’t in the white house two years before the economy started to get hit in 2001 or when New York was hit in 2001, but yet you’ll blame him for that…WOW double standard democrat boy!!!Lets not blame any of this on the signing of NAFTA by Clinton (Democrat) lets not blame Clinton for the planning of 9/11 which was planned in its entirety on his watch…Well how could he when his eyes were closed gettin busy in the oval office!!!!You democrats want to blame Bush for everything how typical, yes I agree we could have done better….But guess what McCain isn’t Bush…Did anyone see Obamas face last night when McCain said that??? PRICELESS!!!!Let me finish with reminding all of you who has held the majority in Washington…THE DEMOCRATS, what have they done!!!! I tell you, look at us now!!!! The only thing Obama will do in office is spend four years blaming the other guy!!!!Lets vote McCain and get something done, proven track record, proven patriot, proven american (who does salute the flag!!)this man can get it done….or vote Obama who blames society for his misfortunes, blames everyone else for the problems of the world, who didn’t vote or draft any meaningful legislation why you ask??? cause he didn’t want to hurt his chances of being president… he doesn;t do anything because he doesn’t want to take responsibility when it goes bad!!!! Remember this: It’s it is better to not talk and be thought of as an idiot rather than open your mouth and be known as an idiot!!!This is Obamas way, It is better to do nothing in Washington and not be held responsible then to do many wonderful things and be blamed for a few mistakes….Obama can’t be blamed for doing nothing or can he???? Lets show him on Nov 4th that we want action not inaction…..Vote mcCain!!!!By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this
To LAX20, Hey bud your right the democrats have only been in control for two years. We can’t blame them!!! YOU READY, I’m getting ready to rip you apart!!!! Ok Bush wasn’t in the white house two years before the economy started to get hit in 2001 or when New York was hit in 2001, but yet you’ll blame him for that…WOW double standard democrat boy!!!Lets not blame any of this on the signing of NAFTA by Clinton (Democrat) lets not blame Clinton for the planning of 9/11 which was planned in its entirety on his watch…Well how could he when his eyes were closed gettin busy in the oval office!!!!You democrats want to blame Bush for everything how typical, yes I agree we could have done better….But guess what McCain isn’t Bush…Did anyone see Obamas face last night when McCain said that??? PRICELESS!!!!Let me finish with reminding all of you who has held the majority in Washington…THE DEMOCRATS, what have they done!!!! I tell you, look at us now!!!! The only thing Obama will do in office is spend four years blaming the other guy!!!!Lets vote McCain and get something done, proven track record, proven patriot, proven american (who does salute the flag!!)this man can get it done….or vote Obama who blames society for his misfortunes, blames everyone else for the problems of the world, who didn’t vote or draft any meaningful legislation why you ask??? cause he didn’t want to hurt his chances of being president… he doesn;t do anything because he doesn’t want to take responsibility when it goes bad!!!! Remember this: It’s it is better to not talk and be thought of as an idiot rather than open your mouth and be known as an idiot!!!This is Obamas way, It is better to do nothing in Washington and not be held responsible then to do many wonderful things and be blamed for a few mistakes….Obama can’t be blamed for doing nothing or can he???? Lets show him on Nov 4th that we want action not inaction…..Vote mcCain!!!!By Mrs.AMoore
October 16, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this
These comments from McCain supporters are laughable. I think many of you need to go and re-read the lines in red in your Bibles. I don’t think Jesus is impressed by the people currently claiming to be acting in His name. And the true Anti-christ will come and the ‘church’ will be fooled by him too. So, if you folks aren’t ‘fooled’ by Obama, then he is not the one you are looking for.By Really?
October 16, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this
GLUS! You are funny…John McCain’s military record is a JOKE and FRAUD!! 894 out of 899? Grandaddy and Daddy were Admirals, he had a free pass! If any other Naval officer would have crashed one plane he would have been a deckhand on a carrier. McCain crashed 2 PLANES BEFORE vietnam. Quit talking about how honorable he is…even classmates who were interviewed said that McCain was like the son of a CEO. Then he decided to cheat and get married into wealth. OBAMA! BE SCARED!By Kenny
October 16, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
Jessica, as a devout Christian myself i find your views extremely short sighted and dissapointing. Both men are honourable i am sure. Christ teaches us to shine the light of the Lord on the path so others may follow…shine it in their eyes and you will blind them…God BlessBy ssilvers@sponclerandtharpe.com
October 16, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
To: ?????? Obama grew up rich, he had a rich Step Dad that was and Oil Exec. & a Grandmother that worked her way up to a bank exec. I didn’t have that I would call that a very well off up bringing. Who’s fooling Who?By nyc
October 16, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
if you want to read an accurate/factual article about the REAL John McCain check out this week’s Rolling Stone www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/makebelievemavericktherealjohnmccain. Also for the record Wilkepedia is NOT always accurate! That would be like only watching FOX News for info. OBAMA already got my vote!By Mark
October 16, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
Our family of four adults of varied political/social philosophies watched the debate together, as we did all the other ones. We make a practice of turning off the TV afterwards without listening to the pundits, and debate the debate ourselves. All of us agreed that McCain won this one, because he consistently challenged Obama on his weak points and stated clearly the difference between his economic and political philosophy and that of Obama. Obama and the Dems are for big government, having the bureaucracy fix and fund everything in America; McCain is for less government, less taxes, pro-business and economic initiative, and more rights/responsibilities for the individual states. He made it clear that he is a federalist. Also, Obama never answered two very important questions from McCain: why did he renege on his signed agreement to accept public campaign funds; and can he justify spending more money than any other candidate in history on negative campaign ads? He also clearly lied about his relationship with Ayers, as statements by people who attended his political coming-out reception at Ayers house attest that it was there. I just wonder if we can trust anything else he says or signs?By ohiocatlover1
October 16, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
Heidi,Obama is NOT Islamic and he is Christian. Obama did not plan his campaign in Ayers’ living room. You need to get your facts straight before you put down Obama. Go Obama/Biden and leave McCain/Palin in the dust. Heidi you should go to www.factscheck.orgBy CKL
October 16, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
Wow, some people need to check the actual facts instead of relying on the false e-mails circulating about both candidates and their running mates. Sites such as SNOPES try to look at these “reports” and presents the facts about many of them.By ????
October 16, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this
scaretodeath: Obama received SCHOLARSHIPS for being disavantage (black and poor) and for being smart. Remember he was not middle class as a young man. He was really below the middle class. Stop trying to add this mystery money tie to the undesirable. We have seen these posting before.By Jessica
October 16, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
For those of you stating that religon should not be a part of your voting then your not a true christian. If you truly live your life for the lord then don’t you think the lord would want you to pick the right person to lead the country. Your right stating the the lord did not push his beliefs on other people however that does not mean that he supports their decisions either. (i.e. gay marriages abortion etc.) He does not believe that you hate them, however, we should not support those choices either. Christians have a responsibility to vote for a person who is morally corect not just based on the economy. Obama is not ready to lead he has no experience and a bunch of empty promises especially when it comes to this economy. Money does not grow on trees you cant just make it appear and make the economy better. He has brainwashed a lot of you with these huge crowd followings, maybe you “so called” christains should look up Anti-Christ in the bible and realize the massive similarities. As in the words of my mother “I do not want voting for Obama on my hands” and I hope you wouldnt either.By Jessica
October 16, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
For those of you stating that religon should not be a part of your voting then your not a true christian. If you truly live your life for the lord then don’t you think the lord would want you to pick the right person to lead the country. Your right stating the the lord did not push his beliefs on other people however that does not mean that he supports their decisions either. (i.e. gay marriages abortion etc.) He does not believe that you hate them, however, we should not support those choices either. Christians have a responsibility to vote for a person who is morally corect not just based on the economy. Obama is not ready to lead he has no experience and a bunch of empty promises especially when it comes to this economy. Money does not grow on trees you cant just make it appear and make the economy better. He has brainwashed a lot of you with these huge crowd followings, maybe you “so called” christains should look up Anti-Christ in the bible and realize the massive similarities. As in the words of my mother “I do not want voting for Obama on my hands” and I hope you wouldnt either.By Jessica
October 16, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
For those of you stating that religon should not be a part of your voting then your not a true christian. If you truly live your life for the lord then don’t you think the lord would want you to pick the right person to lead the country. Your right stating the the lord did not push his beliefs on other people however that does not mean that he supports their decisions either. (i.e. gay marriages abortion etc.) He does not believe that you hate them, however, we should not support those choices either. Christians have a responsibility to vote for a person who is morally corect not just based on the economy. Obama is not ready to lead he has no experience and a bunch of empty promises especially when it comes to this economy. Money does not grow on trees you cant just make it appear and make the economy better. He has brainwashed a lot of you with these huge crowd followings, maybe you “so called” christains should look up Anti-Christ in the bible and realize the massive similarities. As in the words of my mother “I do not want voting for Obama on my hands” and I hope you wouldnt either.By amy
October 16, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
Berg VS Obama and the DNC…Waiting for judge response.. Obama may be going down.By Jessica
October 16, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
For those of you stating that religon should not be a part of your voting then your not a true christian. If you truly live your life for the lord then don’t you think the lord would want you to pick the right person to lead the country. Your right stating the the lord did not push his beliefs on other people however that does not mean that he supports their decisions either. (i.e. gay marriages abortion etc.) He does not believe that you hate them, however, we should not support those choices either. Christians have a responsibility to vote for a person who is morally corect not just based on the economy. Obama is not ready to lead he has no experience and a bunch of empty promises especially when it comes to this economy. Money does not grow on trees you cant just make it appear and make the economy better. He has brainwashed a lot of you with these huge crowd followings, maybe you “so called” christains should look up Anti-Christ in the bible and realize the massive similarities. As in the words of my mother “I do not want voting for Obama on my hands” and I hope you wouldnt either.By nickle
October 16, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
believe that the question of who won the debate and who would be the best president are to different questions. Obama won the “debate” so I elect him captain of the Harvard Law debating team. John McCain proved that he will lead with honor and integrity so I elect him president of the USA!By Qualified Dumocrat
October 16, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
Let’s see; I can’t think for myself, and certainly don’t know how to research; character doesn’t matter; I don’t want to be held responsible for my actions, but I like to blame others for them; I want everything given to me; I don’t want to work for what I have; I don’t know how to use my money, so I’m going to let the Government do it. I’m pretty sure I’m qualified to be a full-pledged Dumocrat. Yes, I’m sure of it.By Kenny
October 16, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
I cannot believe how devisive people have become…and all the while we lose our jobs and homes…we need a leader that will set the right platform for job creation, healthcare, education, poverty alleviation and justice for all in America…a leading light for Americans and the rest of the World…this was not supposed to be about who is Republicans or Democrats…its about what’s right for everyone…black and whiteBy Reaganism
October 16, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this
Dan: If/When the economy reaches the levels of the Great Depression the answer will still NOT be to tax the small businesses and large corporations out of existence and have the new Socialist government decide what we should do, what we should pay and how we run our businesses. (BTW Nancy Pelosi, Great was about the SCALE of the problem, not that it was fun!) The Answer is to allow the great independent American Entrepreneur to grow their businesses. Companies know their own products and services better than the government and they will work to attract the best and smartest employees and will pay them well and will provide them with quality benefits to maintain them. Capitalism, left alone, is self correcting. Companies that lose money go away. Companies that make money grow, hire, grow hire, repeat…By Glus
October 16, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this
Barak Obama admitted he and his wife attended flag burning(s), ( Sun, 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, General Bill Ginn’ USAF (ret.) and wants to change our national anthem. On at least four occasions, John McCain almost died for this country. John fought alongside every race and religion of American soldier, while Barak Obama segregated himself to certain regions. Now he is anxiously waiting when HE can use a race card on John. Are you kidding me?!?!?! This is absurd.By Todd
October 16, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this
I thought McCain did the better job last night.By lax20
October 16, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
I smell LOSERS. The big ‘Republican Pumpers’are back. For you the ‘Pumpers’ aka.. mental giants, the Democrats have only controlled the Congress less than 2 years, what about all this control the Republicans were doing prior to Jan. 2007. Remember the Bengals and ‘Pumpers’ have something in common LOSERS!!!By Really?
October 16, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this
What were you watching? I heard a McCain supporter even say the McCain was too Old, was arrogant, and cynical! Funny, Liar? Read up on McCain REAL biography. He is a fraud and his military background is a joke! He has gotten by all his life with wealth, Name, and women, period! READ a book! He is NOT honorable. How many houses? Cars? Net worth? Crashed 2 planes BEFORE vietnam? YES! Should not have been flying period, but Daddy was Admiral, had a free pass to do what he wanted. ITS TRUE!!!!!!!By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this
Wow, It it is a shame that any one buys into the fact that the state of the economy is any one persons fault. Wake up people, so many people played a role, both democrats and republicans sit in Washington. The Candidates bark on who voted for what, so did hundreds of other politicians, last I knew one vote does not carry the majority. Lets get on with whats important and that is what our next president is going to do!!!Obama admitted last night and said it several times, more taxes on busineses, Can you say more layoffs!! Obama said it several times, we need to spend more money, who’s money??? I dion’t have any money to give you Obama!!!McCain said it best, why would you want to raise taxes on any one right now, Hello, Obama wake up people are losing their jobs, their homes and you want to tax more!!! How can you reduce the taxes of 95% of americans and increase spending??? McCain said lets reform these programs so are money is better spent. Obama wants to get rid of programs that do not work, I wonder which programs that will be???LOL. Please people listen to the candidates, if this man is going to admit three weeks before the election he wants to spend more money, WHAT MONEY!!!!!It was funny how Obama critizes McCain because he doesn’t talk about the economy (Which He does!!) but Obama doesn’t wish to talk about his past whith respect to his racist preacher, his friend Bill Ayers (Domestic Terorist) or his affiliation with Acorn ( voter Registration Fraud magnet) lets talk about the economy which can’t be blamed on me because I didn’t do it, I didn’t do anything. I didn’t help to destroy the economy and I didn’t do anything to help it. Matter of fact most of my votes as a politician were Votes of “present”. You can’t blame me “I DIDN’T DO ANYTHING” and I will continue this all the way to the White House. Not on my watch!!!!!VOTE McCain!!!!By Thinkaboutit
October 16, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this
Wow, It it is a shame that any one buys into the fact that the state of the economy is any one persons fault. Wake up people, so many people played a role, both democrats and republicans sit in Washington. The Candidates bark on who voted for what, so did hundreds of other politicians, last I knew one vote does not carry the majority. Lets get on with whats important and that is what our next president is going to do!!!Obama admitted last night and said it several times, more taxes on busineses, Can you say more layoffs!! Obama said it several times, we need to spend more money, who’s money??? I dion’t have any money to give you Obama!!!McCain said it best, why would you want to raise taxes on any one right now, Hello, Obama wake up people are losing their jobs, their homes and you want to tax more!!! How can you reduce the taxes of 95% of americans and increase spending??? McCain said lets reform these programs so are money is better spent. Obama wants to get rid of programs that do not work, I wonder which programs that will be???LOL. Please people listen to the candidates, if this man is going to admit three weeks before the election he wants to spend more money, WHAT MONEY!!!!!It was funny how Obama critizes McCain because he doesn’t talk about the economy (Which He does!!) but Obama doesn’t wish to talk about his past whith respect to his racist preacher, his friend Bill Ayers (Domestic Terorist) or his affiliation with Acorn ( voter Registration Fraud magnet) lets talk about the economy which can’t be blamed on me because I didn’t do it, I didn’t do anything. I didn’t help to destroy the economy and I didn’t do anything to help it. Matter of fact most of my votes as a politician were Votes of “present”. You can’t blame me “I DIDN’T DO ANYTHING” and I will continue this all the way to the White House. Not on my watch!!!!!VOTE McCain!!!!By stop with the palin
October 16, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this
you simply cannot vote for someone who has palin on the ticket. she actually believes that she needed to be exocised for witches. Witches! she believes the earth is only 5000 years old. she Really Was going to try to get books banned from the library (not matter what she and mccain say, you know in your heart that she really was). please don’t allow her to be the vice president. dont vote for mccain.By Dan
October 16, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this
Reagonism: We haven’t felt the full impact of this financial meltdown. Give it about 90-120 days for the ill effects to be felt. Yes, things were pretty bad during the Carter Administration, but remember he inherited a failing economy from Nixon/Ford.By Glus
October 16, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this
My biggest complaint about the debate is McCain let Obama off the hook. The Bush admininstration keeps getting all of the blame for this economic crisis. McCain needed to talk about the huge part the democrats played in this meltdown when they would not regulate in Fannie and Freddie. If McCain had talked about the role the dems ,along with ACORN, played in the sub-prime mortgage disaster, that would have been the knockout punch. ASLO: If the government takes money from these small businesses, these businesses can’t hire people… then more peole will need welfare. WOW. The dems will get what they want: a society totally dependent on the government for jobs and welfare.By Leslie
October 16, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
McCain won! Obama was nervous, arrogant, and pompous. He had nothing new to say and for the most part just repeated the same rhetoric. McCain finally came out and was himself. And finally put Obama in his place. I was glad when he told Obama he is not Bush. I am so sick of that, McCain is not Bush and never has been and Obama just wants to keep pounding that lie. Obama is a big liar and McCain should have called him on that more. I wish McCain had pushed Obama on his lies and what Obama’s plan really means. McCain did good using Joe the Plumber. I hope people finally start to realize that Obama is anti-capitalist, anti-American. McCain’s plan is very good for America. McCain has the experience and the record to show that he is the one that can fix our Federal Government and preserve our country, our values, and our liberties. Obama has no respect for America or the middle class. Obama manipulates the middle and low income citizens to help him with his real agenda. Take down America and become King of the World. That’s Obama’s dream, that’s his plan. If he is so intelligent how could he not know he sat in a racist American hating church for 20 years, how could he not know Ayers is anti-American and wishes he had done more destruction. An intelligent man that is that unaware of his surrounding sand that naive should not be President. Problem is he was aware and he did know he just doesn’t want the masses to know. How many people would vote in a President that hates America? Would you vote Ayres for President? So Obama is never going to tell you the truth and if he is elected it will be to late. Believe in McCain he will preserve our liberties and keep our homeland safe.By Really??
October 16, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
To all McCain and Republican supporters…say what you will I hope that you are all SCARED!! no apologies, scared of something better! I hope he does everything your scared of. Thats all!By ACORN
October 16, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
John McCain clearly did a better job. Obama talks over and around the issues. McCain does need to pen him to the wall when he does this. McCain should have stayed on an issue until Obama admits he is wrong or has lied. I did not realize that this country had sunk so low as to possibly elect a man that is so far left. A man that wants to raise taxes at a time when the economy is in shambles. A man that believes tax payers should fund legalized abortions. McCain and Palin are a breath of fresh air. They are good Christian candidates. I’m not sure what Obama is. The question should be asked, “Who can you trust in tough times?, and who do you want protecting our freedoms in these dangerous times?”.By Reaganism
October 16, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this
I am a McCain supporter and I felt he edged out Obama, but barely. But, since the media claimed McCain had to have a complete knockout to win there is no way he could. Asking Obama questions about policy and experience is like trying to nail Jell-O to a wall, regardless of the question you’ll always get the same result. Personally I don’t care about Ayers or any of the other “terrorists” (i.e. extreme supporters). I do care about the ecomony. This is NOT the worst economy since the Great Depression. It is the worst economy since Jimmy Carter was in office (look up the numbers). McCain’s plan is very similar to Reagan’s plan and that plan carried us from a deep recession to the good economy of ’90s that Clinton took unearned credit for. This plan works, it’s already proven. Obama’s plan is National Socialism on a scale not seen since the ’40s.By Obama/Biden '08
October 16, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this
To ANM and any like you- You guys can not throw stones if you live in a glass house. Meaning, it is okay for you guys to compare Obama to Ayers and ACORN but McCain can’t be compared to Bush? Give me a break.By ohiocatlover
October 16, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this
I have already early voted for Obama and he has a plan for this country unlike McCain. My dad and my two older sisters are voting for Obama. I was very impressed how Obama kept his cool while McCain was verbally attacking him during this debate. Heidi you should get your facts straight before you call Obama a liar. I had an opportunity to see Obama in person last week and he has put my concerns about sending my daughter to college in four years at rest. GO Obama and Biden leave McCain/Palin in the dust!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!By ohiocatlover
October 16, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this
I have already early voted for Obama and he has a plan for this country unlike McCain. My dad and my two older sisters are voting for Obama. I was very impressed how Obama kept his cool while McCain was verbally attacking him during this debate. Heidi you should get your facts straight before you call Obama a liar. I had an opportunity to see Obama in person last week and he has put my concerns about sending my daughter to college in four years at rest. GO Obama and Biden leave McCain/Palin in the dust!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!By ohiocatlover
October 16, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this
I have already early voted for Obama and he has a plan for this country unlike McCain. My dad and my two older sisters are voting for Obama. I was very impressed how Obama kept his cool while McCain was verbally attacking him during this debate. Heidi you should get your facts straight before you call Obama a liar. I had an opportunity to see Obama in person last week and he has put my concerns about sending my daughter to college in four years at rest. GO Obama and Biden leave McCain/Palin in the dust!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!By Greg V
October 16, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this
Bill Ayers - Co-founded Weather Undergound which bombed the pentagon and other public buildings; Unrepantant terrorist who wishes he would have done more bombings; 1997 Chicago Citizen of the Year; Distinguished Professor. Osama bin Laden - Founded Al-Qaeda which bombed the WTC, the Pentagon, USS Cole, US Embassies; Unrepantant terrosrist who intends to do more bombings; 2001 Time Magazine’s Man of the Year; Distinguished teacher of radical Islam. Notice how similar these two men’s creditials are! Would Barack Obama consider it acceptable to start his political career in the cave of Osama bin Laden? Would Barack Obama consider it acceptable to serve on a board with Osama bin Laden? Barack Obama is such a smooth talker that he probably could convince the American people that a relationship with Osama bin Laden would be no big deal. Barack Obama would just say the following regarding a relationship with Osama bin Laden: I was only 40 years old when Osama bin Laden commited the 9-11 attacks; Osama bin Laden was Time Magazine’s Man of the Year; Osama bin Laden is a distinguished teacher. The sad thing is some Americans would say yeah ok no bid deal. You can be our President. No be blinded by Obama’s eloquence of speech. If he is elected President, the country you know and love will cease to exist as you know it. Don’t thinl it could happen? Did you think 9-11 could happen? What a travesty it would be that we were blinded and this country was taken down from within by our own blindness.By Obama/Biden '08
October 16, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this
Stick a fork in McCain-he’s done. The election is slipping away from McCain and he knows it. People like to say they don’t really pay attention to polls (expecially when you are losing in them) but both candidates are reading them. McCain spent all three debates trying to convince people why he should be the next President. That is why he gets so frustrated during the debates. McCain appears to act like a spoil child not getting attention. McCain does a good job at giving a “We can Speech” but I think “the majority of America”(and thats all that matters) wants to know “How we can.”By Jessica T.
October 16, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this
I thought Mcain did a good job last night. The only good thing about Obama is that he is indeed a very good speaker, the people is not hearing the truth about him. He wants to hurt americans not help us! Im for Mcain all the way!!! Go Mcain- Palin!By uh huh
October 16, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this
if I served on a REC board with Jeffery Dahmer, does that make me any more a cannibal. I’m still not convinced who I’m voting for, but I loved the way Obama answered this Ayers/ACORN crap. Let’s get on with the issues, not tissues.By uh huh
October 16, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this
if I served on a REC board with Jeffery Dahmer, does that make me any more a cannibal. I’m still cont convinced who I’m voting for, but I loved the way Obama answered this Ayers/ACORN crap. Let’s get on with the issues, not tissues.By Jim Ross
October 16, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this
I have read Obams book Dreams of my Father and concluded he is ” as he states in his book” a spy behind white enemy lines. McCains book Wothe the Fighting for. left me with respect for a man with values I have fought for I cannot trust Obama with the connections in congress and ties to Freddie Mac and Fannie May.By Jim Ross
October 16, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this
I have read Obams book Dreams of my Father and concluded he is ” as he states in his book” a spy behind white enemy lines. McCains book Wothe the Fighting for. left me with respect for a man with values I have fought for I cannot trust Obama with the connections in congress and ties to Freddie Mac and Fannie May.By ANM
October 16, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this
Obama’s only strength was to continue to compare McCain to Bush. I loved when McCain looked at him and said, I am NOT George Bush, and if you wanted to run against him you should have ran 4 years ago. In my opinion, Obama did NOT give a sufficient explination about his ties with ACORN and the money he gave to their organization. McCain did acknowledge that Obama is an eloquent speaker but again as Glus said, people are not hearing what he is actually saying. McCain may not be as “smooth” of a talker, but I thought he had a great night last night.By ANM
October 16, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this
Obama’s only strength was to continue to compare McCain to Bush. I loved when McCain looked at him and said, I am NOT George Bush, and if you wanted to run against him you should have ran 4 years ago. In my opinion, Obama did NOT give a sufficient explination about his ties with ACORN and the money he gave to their organization. McCain did acknowledge that Obama is an eloquent speaker but again as Glus said, people are not hearing what he is actually saying. McCain may not be as “smooth” of a talker, but I thought he had a great night last night.By Greg
October 16, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this
I am voting for Senator Obama. If, by some chance, Senator McCain wins- I pray for his good health for one reason- Sarah Palin.By Glus
October 16, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this
LJ you must have watched a different debate. He did not successfuly answer ANY of the accusations in my book. McCain said something about him being an eloquent speaker, but listen to his WORDS. People are SO enamored with him, they do not hear his words.By A Concerned American
October 16, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this
I hate it when people say Obama remained cool up there. The only thing Obama is is a good speaker. There are a lot of good speakers in this world that could have sat up there and done as well, if not better than Obama. I’m leaning towards the experienced McCain. Contrary to what Obama is saying, McCain will bring some change to the White House and that change will be good.By concerned about our country
October 16, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this
I think everyone is in agreement that our economy is bad however what I think that most democratic supporters are doing is blaming the entire Republican Party for the mess and the Democrates are as much to blame as they control congress and the President alone cannot pass anything without their approval. Just because John McCain is Republican doesn’t mean he is responsible for the economic crisis because a Republican President is in office. I think everyone is so desperate for change that they are willing to vote democrate no matter who he is. A smooth talker doesn’t make you a good president actions speak way louder than words. We are not hiring a car salesman we are hiring a President.By concerned about our country
October 16, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this
I think everyone is in agreement that our economy is bad however what I think that most democratic supporters are doing is blaming the entire Republican Party for the mess and the Democrates are as much to blame as they control congress and the President alone cannot pass anything without their approval. Just because John McCain is Republican doesn’t mean he is responsible for the economic crisis because a Republican President is in office. I think everyone is so desperate for change that they are willing to vote democrate no matter who he is. A smooth talker doesn’t make you a good president actions speak way louder than words. We are not hiring a car salesman we are hiring a President.By Toni
October 16, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this
For what I saw, I am extremely proud of both parties for the arguments, they gave, I still am on the fence, however, about who I am going to choose, but honestly and forth right, I enjoyed Senator McCain, I have nothing negative or anything against Barok Obama, I simply just was impressed by both, but more so for me was McCain.By concerned about our country
October 16, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this
I think everyone is in agreement that our economy is bad however what I think that most democratic supporters are doing is blaming the entire Republican Party for the mess and the Democrates are as much to blame as they control congress and the President alone cannot pass anything without their approval. Just because John McCain is Republican doesn’t mean he is responsible for the economic crisis because a Republican President is in office. I think everyone is so desperate for change that they are willing to vote democrate no matter who he is. A smooth talker doesn’t make you a good president actions speak way louder than words. We are not hiring a car salesman we are hiring a President.By Former Buckeye
October 16, 2008 8:26 AM | Link to this
Obama was cool, because he is inexperienced, emotionally he is out of touch… He is clueless.. This Acorn fraud has NOBAMA written all over it…. He PAID for votes and he is an idiot. He is a muslim and dont let him fool you.By LJ
October 16, 2008 8:21 AM | Link to this
Although Sen. McCain did much better in this debate than in the two prior ones, Sen. Obama stayed cool and calm under the constant attack of his opponent. He successfuly answered all the accusations, and proved himself to be, once again, the type of person we need in today’s world. Thoughtful, intelligent, and able to maintain his composure under fire. Sen. McCain appeared to be desperate to try to show the audience how “bad” Sen. Obama would be, and spent very little time on how “good” he would be. Like his recent television ads, he appeared all negative all the time. Sen. Obama won this debate, no question.By Unsecided Voter
October 16, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this
I thought Senator McCain was exceptional. He was calm, and garcious towards Obama. He got in many excellent points on issue differences, which focused on healthcare and the economy and taxes wonderfully. He was composed and only got angry when he spoke about Lewis’s comments. In Columbus, a panel of CNN indepednents and undecided were going with McCain about 3 out of 4.The same on Fox in Miami, with about a 4 out of 6 difference. The moderator said there was no money for Obama’s plans, and he acknowledged it was wealth distribution. A voye for Obama is a vote for worsening the economy and the job market. I am voting for John McCain.By Truth
October 16, 2008 8:02 AM | Link to this
Dear Bobbie and whomever else agrees with his previous statement, Based on your comment it doesn’t seem you’ve been following the debates. If so, you would have seen when Biden was asked about his and Obama’s views concerning homosexual marriages and he said they are clearly against that, however they are not against the civil rights of those individuals. Also, many so-called Christians (not specifically referring to you) seem to forget what the bible says about forgiveness, love and compassion. Jesus Christ never forced the Word of God on anyone, He simply lived it and preached it, it was always the decision of those who saw His lifestyle and heard His truth concerning the decision left to be made. Just because a person is against abortion or not does not make them a Christian and looking at McCain’s character alone doesn’t represent the fruits of the Spirit the Bible clearly outline in Galatians chapter 5. I don’t personally know if either candidate is a Christian so I based my decision on who to vote for on what they are “really” going to benefit me and my family and I hope everyone does.By Joe
October 16, 2008 7:59 AM | Link to this
Since when does it matter who won? This was a debate, not a popularity contest, which appears to be what the media has made it. I don’t think what McCain or Obama has said will influence anything. It’s the almighty media machine that will determine the winner!By lax20
October 16, 2008 7:58 AM | Link to this
Bobbie: You can ask your pastor about those issues you mentioned, but he can’t answer if he wants to keep his church non-profit status with the IRS. In case you did not know, it is forbidden to have clergy advise its parishioners on how to vote. If the clergy tells parishioners on how to vote and it is reported, the church will lose its non-profit status and all proceeds going to the church are subject to income taxes. This is what is meant by the phrase “Separation of Church and State”. Which means, government isn’t in the sin business and church isn’t involved in the political process.By BOBBIE
October 16, 2008 7:45 AM | Link to this
COME ON PEOPLE PLEASE! CHECK THE ISSUES…MORAL AND SOCIAL! VOTE FOR WHAT YOU REALLY BELIEVE IN! SO OBAMA IS A GOOD SPEAKER…WOOPEE… ASK YOUR PASTOR WHAT HE THINKS GOD THINKS ABOUT OBAMA’S LIBERAL STAND ON HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA AND ABORTION! I TRULY WISH WE HAD A BLACK CANDIDATE THAT HAD THE MORAL VALUES AND STANDARDS THAT MOST HARD WORKING CHRISTIAN AMERICANS DO…THIS IS NOT ABOUT RACE…IT IS ABOUT CHARACTER.By Tom
October 16, 2008 7:35 AM | Link to this
The funny thing is that Joe the plumber isn’t even registered to vote! We can disagree on whose tax policy might be better, but there’s no doubt that Obama has the better temperment, and by far the more qualified running mate. Obama won all three debates, Biden won the VP debate, McCain has no coherent plan, and is a bitter, angry old man. Palin has no business being anywhere near the national stage, and there is a clear choice in this election. OBAMA/BIDENBy lax20
October 16, 2008 7:10 AM | Link to this
A riddle: What does a ‘Republican Pumper’ and the Cincinnati Bengals have in common? Answer: They are both LOSERS!!By lax20
October 16, 2008 6:50 AM | Link to this
The ‘Republican Pumpers’ are always in denial. I keep hearing, I don’t want income taxes to go up on businesses. They create so many jobs for me. Hello!! Dayton metro area has an unemployment rate of 7.2%. Dayton area is #5 on list of top 10 dying cities. Your quality of life basically sucks. These great businesses have supplied too many jobs for all of you. By the way, most of you ‘Pumpers’ haven’t felt the impact of this economic fiasco you created. I know it was those pesky Democrats or maybe even those ‘parachute jumping ninja turtles’. By the way GAO(that is the General Accounting Office for you mental giants on this board) researched and found that 68% of all US corporations and some foreign companies, never paid a dime of corporate income taxes from 1997-2005. Boo Hoo let’s not make our generous giving corporations pay their fair share. That’s right,the GAO is one of those government left wing socialist organizations manipulating statistics again. You ‘Pumpers’ have all the answers. You are certainly too smart for me.By Steve
October 16, 2008 6:49 AM | Link to this
Slick Barry was oh so slippery and smooth in his delivery last night. He has drastically improved his delivery. Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko, Rev. Wright, Louis Farrakhan, Father Flagler, Khalid Al-Mansour, ACORN etc mean nothing to the main stream Medias “education” of the American people. They will continue to burry these stories even though Barry has a long history of questionable associations and poor judgments and radical beliefs. I have at this late date in the game; STILL NOT heard an adequate explanation of any of them. I see a slick talker with a scary background that in my mind has not been explored. He could sell people a turd and they would gobble it up and love it. ….LemmingsBy VietVet
October 16, 2008 6:44 AM | Link to this
Did you notice how angry and annoyed McCain seemed during the debate? Now, imagine him as President, dealing with other nations (or with Congress) and losing it when it doesn’t go his way.The man has too many anger issues to be in control as President.Each time he spoke, he started out answering the question asked, but quickly went into attack mode as he continued his answer. He also has trouble staying on subject and seems to wander when asked a question.Obama seemed to be more in control with his demeanor and his answers.I admire McCain’s military service and believe we all should respect his POW experience, but I have a disagreement with his politics.He seems to have made a friend with “Joe the Plumber” since he talked about him so much. Good for you, John! That’s at least one vote for you.By justme52
October 16, 2008 6:37 AM | Link to this
everyone thinks McCain looked angry..Sure i bet he is as we all are..BOOBAMA is lying and your are all falling for it ..BRAIN WASHED.. you people that are following him like a cult member…SCARY…GO McCAIN/PALIN I think i will dress as a dummiecrat for Halloween and scare people ..BOOBy Nova
October 16, 2008 6:25 AM | Link to this
Who does John McCain think he is? Laughing at a woman’s health as a reason to end a pregnancy? WHAT is wrong with him? Is he ready to rank a woman’s children in order of importance for her? Hey, John, we need to be in good health to care for the children we already have, you complete moron!!! And McCain needs to be careful when he preaches so hard against possible “class warfare” as some of us wouldn’t mind a little of that right about now. When my children have to occasionally go without protein of any kind at the dinner table so that I can stretch my food dollar and my nine-year old is already over his lifetime cap for what our insurance will pay on braces, while old John and Cindy McCain own SEVEN houses, a little “spreading of the wealth” doesn’t seem so unreasonable to ME.By Nova
October 16, 2008 6:21 AM | Link to this
Who does John McCain think he is? Laughing at a woman’s health as a reason to end a pregnancy? WHAT is wrong with him? Is he ready to rank a woman’s children in order of importance for her? Hey, John, we need to be in good health to care for the children we already have, you complete moron!!! And McCain needs to be careful when he preaches so hard against possible “class warfare” as some of us wouldn’t mind a little of that right about now. When my children have to occasionally go without protein of any kind at the dinner table so that I can stretch my food dollar and old John McCain owns SEVEN houses!!! A little “spreading of the wealth” doesn’t seem so unreasonable to me.By Nova
October 16, 2008 6:14 AM | Link to this
For those who mistakenly think that further taxing business will be “a disaster” for this country, WE ARE ALREADY IN A DISASTER!!!! McCain has to be careful when he strongly warns against “class warfare” as some of us would not mind a little of that at this point. And McCain laughing at a woman’s health as a reason to stop a pregnancy? What is wrong with him? What if you already have children and your current pregnancy might leave you in very ill health, perhaps PERMANENTLY? Who do you choose? The baby in your stomach or the children you love and need to be in good health to care for? Being a mother means making hard choices sometimes and only the woman, her husband,and her doctor should be involved in those choices. Now unless McCain thinks he can rank a woman’s children in order of importance for her, he needs to shut up. Unless you yourself have been in a position of having to make that decision you can have no idea of exactly what it is like. He comes off as EXTREMELY callous and thoughtless.By shaen
October 16, 2008 5:55 AM | Link to this
All indications are that Obama won the last debate. McCain cannot distance himself from Bush or Bush policies. McCain’s attempt at bringing up Ayers really did not work. This issue is old, dead and holds no water. Since McCain also spoke at an Acorn event, that issue is also dead. Guilt by association is weak. One could also bring up McCain’s associations; his father-in-law and mob connections, his wife/drug addict/embezzler. Palin and the secession party. But, in reality, it isn’t needed. As far as issues go, the Obama health plan is better; using the FEHB. Which is not completely “socialized” All federal employees get it with a wide range of insurance providers. It is a republican lie to think that the FEHB is socialized medicine. The lie is normally used because the republican lobbyists don’t like the idea. The McCain plan sucks and supports his lobbyist base. McCain’s push for nuclear energy is because of his ties to Halliburton and Bechtel; they would build the plants. His ties to the oil companies are obvious. Trickle down economics may not work anymore and yes, we may need a short period of socialism with a jobs package to get our economy moving. No jobs, no middle class. Most people I know make less than $250,000. But perhaps a flat tax would be better, say 10 percent. No deductions/no loopholes. Or, eliminate the IRS and have a national sales tax, say 10 percent on every purchase.By scaredtodeath
October 16, 2008 5:54 AM | Link to this
This election has me very worried. So many things to consider. I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with. About six months ago, I started thinking ‘where did the money come from for Obama’. I have two kids, and we were middle class, and money was tight. So I started looking into Obama’s life. Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. ‘Barry’ (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan . During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a ‘round the world’ trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia , next Hyderabad in India , three weeks in Karachi , Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate’s family, then off to Africa to visit his father’s family. My question - Where did he get the money for this trip? When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York. It is at this time he wants everyone to call him Barack - not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia? It’s not cheap! to say the least. Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia , he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000.. a year. Why Chicago ? Why not New York ? He was already living in New York . By ‘chance’ he met Antoin ‘Tony’ Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria , and a real estate developer in Chicago . Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. Rezko, was named ‘Entrepreneur of the Decade’ by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association’. About two years after, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for Law school? More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago . Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented ‘Rezar’ which is Rezko’s firm. Rezko was one of Obama’s first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with ‘seed money’ for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price). With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he get the money for the property? On the same day Rezko’s wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama’s new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko. Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama’s boss. She is now Obama’s chief adviser and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz , Iran ! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy? On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was ‘sacked’ after the press found out he was having regular contacts with ‘Hamas’, which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran . This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama’s visit to Iraq , he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will ‘Take care of things’. Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan ? They are in charge of all those ‘small’ Internet campaign contribution for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East ? And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on ‘This Week’ with George Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, ‘My Muslim faith’. When questioned, ‘he made a mistake’. Some mistake! All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times -Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008. Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own, Why haven’t all of our ‘intelligent’ members of the press been reporting this? A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear - ‘Beware of the enemy from within’!!!By Jan
October 16, 2008 5:07 AM | Link to this
Obama’s plan on taxing businesses, big or small, is a disaster in this economy. Business profits are what allow businesses to expand, branch out into other areas, and hire new workers. Reducing business profits means reducing new jobs. What good is a tax cut going to do you if businesses start to go under, or cut jobs because they are in a difficult economy and paying more taxes? I am sure the money from employment would be greater than the money from a tax cut. Another issue, when Obama says that 95% of working Americans would get a tax cut, how is this possible when 95% of working Americans don’t pay taxes? Does this mean that more money will be handed out to those who don’t pay taxes in the first place? That is what it sounds like. When this country starts acting like Russia, redestributing the wealth as Obama said to the plummer, we take the initiative to work harder, longer, better out of the system. We take out the incentive for success and actually penalize it. We become like Russia and collapse. Great plan, ObamaBy voter
October 16, 2008 1:50 AM | Link to this
McCain will keep taxes low. Obama is a phony and sometimes you should be judged by the company you keep. Ayers got off on a technicality and his wife was also a terrorist. I could never vote for Obama.By ms.miyagi
October 16, 2008 1:39 AM | Link to this
Hope and love surpasses fear and hate. This is the country I want my children to know: “People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed, and redeemed; never throw out anyone.” ~Audrey Hepburn Obama/Biden 08!By not so fast
October 16, 2008 1:23 AM | Link to this
McCain isn’t a friend of Ayers and didn’t launch his political career in his home - I don’t think ANY Republican ever did. McCain didn’t pay $800,000 to ACORN to “register” voters, or train them. The Annenburgs were a Republican family who always supported R’s. Their foundation was “highjacked” by Ayers and Obama and used to radicalize education in S. Chicago. The good name of the Annenburgs gave cover to Ayers & Obama to waste $180 million with no improvement to schools. Ayers is still a radical scholar with strong ties to the Chicago political machine (where the DNC is now located).By james
October 16, 2008 1:10 AM | Link to this
Seriously, if someone applied for a job as manager of a company you own and love and they had Obama’s background and associates, would you turn over your company to them? I couldn’t, and that’s what we’re being asked to do.By nobama
October 16, 2008 1:02 AM | Link to this
THere will be no tax break. He has too many plans for low income and we will all pay for it. Big Government.By Matthew
October 16, 2008 1:01 AM | Link to this
McCain will tax your employer paid health benefits. I personally can’t afford that for myself and my family. As for Acorn—-Heck, McCain was a big supporter of Acorn himself. It’s crazy for McCain to make an issue out of something he always supported. As for Ayers——Ayers was funded by a big Republican and Conservative Annenberg Foundation—-they vetted him and endorsed him and funded his educational program. Ayers is someone Republicans and Democrats have worked with in Illinois. Obama only had the most indirect and limited interaction with Ayers. Anyone who lets McCain distract them from the real problems we face in our great nation will be sorry. McCain has no solutions, he is just more of the Same Bush policies.By Karri
October 16, 2008 12:55 AM | Link to this
Ummm Thomas, it’s Obama who will tax more if you make over $250,000.By too tricky
October 16, 2008 12:54 AM | Link to this
Obama’s got too many skeletens in the closet. He thinks he’s too much a celebrity to have to explain them. I just want to know why he never saw or heard “racist” Wright, or the radical side of Ayers & Dohrn, or the corruption of Rezko, etc. Did he not see anything wrong because he agrees with them?By JeffD
October 16, 2008 12:52 AM | Link to this
If everybody would just stop and think about it for just one minute, you would know Obama is lying about his tax plan too… He keeps saying 95% of Americans will get a tax break… well how can that be if 35% of Americans already dont pay any taxes at all?? Quit blindly listening to what he says and do some research!By not distracted
October 16, 2008 12:51 AM | Link to this
Had Enough, Ayres hosted Obamas first fundraiser in his district to become a Senator, not just served on a Bipartisan committee together. You call other people hate mongerers, but call me a nut??? Why immature name calling. I have my opinion just like you. Goodnight.By Thomas
October 16, 2008 12:49 AM | Link to this
Crap! I wish I hadn’t voted early! If I had known that McCain was going to tax the crap out of my grocery store because it makes more than 250 thousand dollars a year, I never would have voted for him! 250 thousand isn’t that much money when you realize that you’re sinking a good chunk of that money back into ordering more merchandise. I really hope I don’t have to lay someone off now.By Denise
October 16, 2008 12:46 AM | Link to this
Obama is right-it’s about jobs. If you have a decent job with health insurance that isn’t taxed like McCain wants, you can pay your mortgage.By melissa
October 16, 2008 12:40 AM | Link to this
I thought McCain hit more issues and Obama was defensive all night. Obama talks well but keeps changing positions over the past year - what will he decide next January? He has no record to speak of to really know him, except for all of these unsavory people and groups. He just doesn’t seem real or sincere - he’s like an actor just playing a part and trying to convince the audience he’s real. He has no passion about anything - again like a robot or something. I don’t know, I just don’t get what he’s really all about. That concerns me.By had enough
October 16, 2008 12:39 AM | Link to this
to not distracted: I have read and researched all I’ve found is unsubstantiated accusations from a hate-mongering b—— and nuts like you. I think it is appropriate for a community leader like Obama to have served on a BIPARTISAN committee on education reform with a professor of education. I think it is approptiate for an attorney to represent a group along with other lawyers. McCain has not presented any evidence that anything occurred beyond what Obama has stated. If he really could show proof, he would be shouting it out on Foxx. I am “not distracted” by McCain’s attempts to hide the fact that his campaign doesn’t offer what we need.By byebye
October 16, 2008 12:39 AM | Link to this
Well if Obama wins the election I can kiss my yearly piddly tax return goodbye, my neighbor who chooses to work part time who gets the earned income credit will get it. And the woman on welfare with 10 kids will get yours. Spread the wealth, right?By Andrea
October 16, 2008 12:37 AM | Link to this
Obviously Bush and McCain aren’t the same person. Bu if it hugs a Bush and votes 95% with a Bush it is—for all intents and purposes—a Bush. We can’t afford 4 more years on this path!!! We need a change!!!!!By Tom
October 16, 2008 12:34 AM | Link to this
If we are going to talk voter fraud (which is NOT the same as voter registration fraud), then let’s talk about how Ken Blackwell and the Republicans stole the 2004 election, right here in Ohio. They locked up the ballots in Warren county, would not let any press or international observers watch, and stole the election from John Kerry. ACORN has nothing to do with voter fraud, just registration fraud. There is a HUGE difference between criminal behavior (Ken Blackwell) and pretending to register fake people to get more money. Mickey Mouse didn’t vote in 2004, and there is NO PROOF that any of these fraudulent registrations have been anywhere near casting an actual ballot. Sending out flyers in black neighborhoods that the date of the election has changed, or threatening people that they will be arrested on outstanding child support, or failing to provide working polling machines in predominantly Democratic districts… these are examples of voter fraud. Voter registration fraud isn’t the same. And Obama still won the debate, and will win the election in a landslide. Yes we can!By not distracted
October 16, 2008 12:29 AM | Link to this
Oh boy. Jim in Dayton. Please please please look up Bill Ayres in something like Wikipedia. Yes he is a professor, but he was a terrorist, a fugitive from justice and went to prison. No kool aid in this mouth. You need to research, don’t be so naive. It’s worth at least checking into.By Joanie
October 16, 2008 12:25 AM | Link to this
Look at how bad the foreclosure crisis is in Dayton. Thank Barney, Chris, and ACORN. Now ACORN is involved with voter fraud everywhere. Obama is tied to ACORN not only now ($800k) but his community organizer & lawyer days. Can NOT trust his judgement or words!By Vegas
October 16, 2008 12:23 AM | Link to this
Sarah Palin is a “know nothing” idiot. Period. She’s an empty dress. A joke! McCain is desperate and clearly has anger management issues. His body language stunk and he spent too much time attacking Obama and not attacking our issues. I do not want John McCain anywhere near the White House. I don’t want him near the red phone. No way, no how, no McCain. McCain’s first answer” Outright liberalism…he’s no real conservative…buying mortgages for irresponsible people”, it’s a sign that his is in fact mimicking his opponent. He has no ideas. No vision. He is not a leader. This ACORN business is a joke, too. The dummies filling in any names are bad apples. If you’re going to tie Obama to ACORN, you might as well throw McCain in there, too. McCain was their keynote speaker about 2 years back. He praised them. We can knit pick all day. If Jesus was on the ballot, I’d vote for him. Some people might not, they’d think he was a liberal, Arab dressing person. Since Jesus isn’t on the ballot…I’m voting Obama. McCain tried to play God too much. Him and Palin all they do is throw stones, like they are holier than Thou. There is PLENTY to talk about with McCain/Palin, but I’d rather talk about the issues. Obama is on the right side of all the issues. We need a fresh new start and Obama’s our man. President Obama, I love it!By jOe
October 16, 2008 12:19 AM | Link to this
I’m gonna vote for Joe the Plumber. NOBAMA.By Dan
October 16, 2008 12:19 AM | Link to this
Hannah-You are absolutely correct. The makings of this financial disaster just didn’t occur overnight as many ‘Republican Pumpers’ suggest and truly believe. The ‘Pumpers’ always seem to blame someone else or have an excuse. Remember losers have excuses, winners have solutions.By Jim in Dayton
October 16, 2008 12:18 AM | Link to this
Not distracted, Ayers is a Professor. If he was a terrorist, he’d be in jail. Spit out the kool-aid, my friend. If you really want to research a terrorist, research Sarah Palin’s connection to AKIP. She was a member of AKIP twice. The founder of AKIP hated America and was killed by the FBI while trying to bring explosives into the US. Sarah Palin is an anti-American secessionist. If there’s a “terrorist” running, it’s Sarah Palin. I beg you, do your homework.By Tom
October 16, 2008 12:14 AM | Link to this
Obama won the debate, and he is correct on every major issue. The costs of health care would be better if there were more shared risk. The larger the pool of people in a single insurance plan, the cheaper it is for everyone. Competition just makes insurance companies and their CEO’s rich. Obama gets it, McCain does not. Obama was calm, confident, presidential, and McCain was rude, interrupted multiple times, and still won’t look Obama in the eye when he spews the Ayres/ACORN garbage. Vote for Obama. I’m going tomorrow to the polls!By Hannah
October 16, 2008 12:13 AM | Link to this
Pat — you claim the Democrats brought this recession? REALLY? You need to get an education. Ronald Reagan started the deregulation, and McCain and his republican buddies kept the ball rolling. It always astounds me when people with internet access can post absolute crap (must be a Fox News viewer) - and not even do the research on the internet that will prove your BS totally wrong.By Dan
October 16, 2008 12:10 AM | Link to this
The post by ‘Had Enough’ sums up what this election is all about. People have seen what the Republicans have offered and they didn’t like the swift kick in the backside and pay outs to their corporate buddies, while many Americans struggle. It is time for a change and pray that this change will help the people like ‘Has Enough’.By Steve
October 16, 2008 12:10 AM | Link to this
Why? Why wouldn’t you be concerned about this??? Well, I don’t care about what he did at 8 years during a school project because that is not going to effect my FINANCIAL FUTURE. I am voting for MR OBAMA because he is calm, collected and I like his plan for the country. He is what I would like to see as my President.By not distracted
October 16, 2008 12:09 AM | Link to this
McCain is not the one saying concrete things about Obama and Acorn / Ayres. Investigate! Research! Read! It is public knowledge. How can someone say this is of no concern to them? A terrorist tie is of no concern? It is to me.By doubtful
October 16, 2008 12:08 AM | Link to this
McCain said he would have a spending freeze. He also said he would buy mortgages. These are mutually excusive. You can’t do both.By Hannah
October 16, 2008 12:05 AM | Link to this
McCain needs to pack it in - he’s embarrassing himself by his blustering arrogance and flat our REFUSAL to really address the PROBLEMS the country is facing thanks to the greed and cronyism of the Republican Party. He’s NO maverick, especially NOW, when he flat out lies about his actions in curtailing the RW nutbars that are screaming for Obama to be killed. He spent more time trying to pick a fight with Obama , instead of addressing the very REAL problems facing this country. Do you really WANT a president who holds grudges, who takes exception to anything he doesn’t like? Do you REALLY want this arrogant OLD man being that close to the red phone? I sure as hell don’t. He needs to take his behind home to Arizona, and set up a chair on his porch, so he can scream at the kids in the street who get too close to his property. That’s about ALL he’s good for at this point. His AGE and his TEMPERMENT prove he CANNOT manage the office and make the hard decisions ahead. And he can take Caribou Barbie with him.By had enough
October 16, 2008 12:02 AM | Link to this
I haven’t heard anything concrete from McCain to support the innuendo about Ayres and Acorn. I don’t care about Ayres and Acorn. I care about my son getting laid off and his family not having health insurance. McCain hasn’t said anything to reassure me about them. I’m voting for Obama.By Center Field
October 16, 2008 12:02 AM | Link to this
People, realize this; both candidates will spend money. You have to ask yourselves, who will spend it the best? Just please, please try to look at what the candidates say, not what your latest forwarded email does. Let your vote be based on fact, not rhetoric, racism or lies. It’s not hard to find the truth (hint: it’s not in your email inbox). I have faith in the goodness and intelligence of humanity, but some of the things I’ve seen and heard during this election make me wonder.By Margenull
October 16, 2008 12:01 AM | Link to this
Obama won fair and square. Stayed calm while McCain reminded me of a Banty Rooster.By girish
October 16, 2008 12:00 AM | Link to this
Estimate the cost of a Presidency on your family. A candidate who offers tax-cut to the wealthiest, might cost you 20%…… McCain supporters good luck and god bless. Obama supporters please volunteer if you can. And remember to “Make an effort to be kind. Before you know it, you’ll find that being kind becomes effortless.”By notdistracted
October 15, 2008 11:57 PM | Link to this
How is Ayres a distraction issue??? Why wouldn’t you be concerned about his link to Ayres? I guess I just don’t understand. Open your eyes people it is real. Obama has previously lied about his relationship with him…why? Why wouldn’t you be concerned about this??? Distraction??By grima
October 15, 2008 11:55 PM | Link to this
PAT - keep drinking that kool aid. GWB and HIS hand picked cronies brought us this Recession; this economic 9/11 with its own economic Patriot Act (that conveniently had been sitting on the shelf for months)By Vairy
October 15, 2008 11:54 PM | Link to this
My youngest son blinks alot and it doesn’t mean a thing. Stop being so petty. Heck even obama blinked alot. McCain did win tonight but as I said on another board all the MSM will do is talk about how they think obama did. People should really think before voting, and they should think about the facts of what it will do if our taxes get raised during a crisis like we are going though now. Use your vote wisely and vote for the person that will NOT raise our taxes. McCain/Palin has my voteBy Heidi D
October 15, 2008 11:53 PM | Link to this
John McCain and Sarah Palin ALL THE WAY! Obama is a pathological liar.By Heidi D
October 15, 2008 11:53 PM | Link to this
John McCain and Sarah Palin ALL THE WAY! Obama is a pathological liar.By Heidi D
October 15, 2008 11:53 PM | Link to this
John McCain and Sarah Palin ALL THE WAY! Obama is a pathological liar.By Heidi D
October 15, 2008 11:53 PM | Link to this
John McCain and Sarah Palin ALL THE WAY! Obama is a pathological liar.By girish
October 15, 2008 11:53 PM | Link to this
McCain supporters good luck and god bless. Obama supporters please volunteer if you can. And remember to “Make an effort to be kind. Before you know it, you’ll find that being kind becomes effortless.”By imo
October 15, 2008 11:53 PM | Link to this
McCain LOST! He was grasping at straws…All his bull $hit distraction issues Ayers etc. got choped and handed to him! That pissed McAngry off….lolBy Heidi D
October 15, 2008 11:53 PM | Link to this
John McCain and Sarah Palin ALL THE WAY! Obama is a pathological liar.By imo
October 15, 2008 11:53 PM | Link to this
McCain LOST! He was grasping at straws…All his bull $hit distraction issues Ayers etc. got choped and handed to him! That pissed McAngry off….lolBy imo
October 15, 2008 11:52 PM | Link to this
McCain LOST! He was grasping at straws…All his bull $hit distraction issues Ayers etc. set choped and handed to him! That pissed McAngry off….lolBy Heidi D
October 15, 2008 11:51 PM | Link to this
John McCain and Sarah Palin ALL THE WAY! Obama is a pathological liar.By Dan
October 15, 2008 11:51 PM | Link to this
Jim in Dayton-I applaud you from another Vietnam Vet.By whyowhy
October 15, 2008 11:51 PM | Link to this
Sarah Palin does seem kind of inexperienced compared to Joe Biden, just like Obama seems unexperienced compared to John McCain. Obama needs to go back to Illinois & practice for a few years.By Vegas
October 15, 2008 11:49 PM | Link to this
Someone needs to get Sharon off of this site. Clearly, Obama won the debate. He’s focused on issues. Period. McCain was so angry looking the entire night and he’s a smart-alic. He does too much huffing, puffing, flailing his arms, rolling his eyes, batting his eyes and he’s so tight and wound up. I don’t want that going around the world representing us, standing next to other world leaders that look presidential. Obama looks like a President of the USA. He just has it. He’s not negative. McCain lies almost all the time. I’ve stopped listening to him. He doesn’t really believe in country first…country club first…Obama believes in country first that’s why he picked a better VP than Palin. I don’t want that woman anywhere near the White House. Obama understands much more than McCain thinks. McCain is out of touch and out of time and I hope I can vote the republicans out this year. It is time to change. It is time to turn the page. I can’t wait, the world can’t wait. Let’s do it! President Obama!!!!!!!!!By Dan
October 15, 2008 11:48 PM | Link to this
Tina-The Congress has been Democratic for less than 2 years. I’m not advocating they put in a stellar performance, but less than 2 years is not too long. The Republicans have done this country a disservice and change is in order. I do believe most of America feels the same way. In light of what has occurred recently, party loyalty shouldn’t even play a role. Remember it’s not whats best for the Party, but what is best for America.By Pat
October 15, 2008 11:48 PM | Link to this
Sarah Palin has more Executive Experience than Obama and her state is virtully the same population as the one Biden represents. In fact Palin got more votes as a mayor than Biden did when he was a presidental candidate.By Ms. Purrrrfect
October 15, 2008 11:48 PM | Link to this
Mac - While it’s obvious you are for John McCain, you might want to consider voting for Obama and his plan for “Education” because while reading your comments,this is what I discovered: (1) Reads: “Your definitely the right man…” SHOULD READ: YOU’RE definitely..” (2) Reads: “Just plain blinded by their hatered.” SHOULD READ: HATRED (3) Reads: “A Good Stewart for our money..” SHOULD READ: STEWARD So…now…wake up Mac!!!!!By Jim in Dayton
October 15, 2008 11:45 PM | Link to this
My father fought in Vietnam twice. He retired as a Lt. Colonel from the US Army. I didn’t fight, but I served 18 years. I think it’s unAmerican as hell to vote based on party or race. I will be voting for Barack Obama, as will my father. Anyone who thinks Sarah Palin is capable of running things is voting for party. She needs to go back to Alaska and work on seceding and having ceremonies to protect her from witches.By Pat
October 15, 2008 11:45 PM | Link to this
Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi and their Democrat majorites brought us this recession.By Jim in Dayton
October 15, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this
My father fought in Vietnam twice. He retired as a Lt. Colonel from the US Army. I didn’t fight, but I served 18 years. I think it’s unAmerican as hell to vote based on party or race. I will be voting for Barack Obama, as will my father. Anyone who thinks Sarah Palin is capable of running things is voting for party. She needs to go back to Alaska and work on seceding and having ceremonies to protect her from witches.By M005E
October 15, 2008 11:41 PM | Link to this
One example of Obama’s voodoo math: He said he will force health insures to lower premiums and then force them to insure pre-existing conditions. Folks it ain’t gonna happen. Insurer can’t afford it. Please don’t vote for this clown.By Tina
October 15, 2008 11:37 PM | Link to this
Dan, it makes a difference to me, that’s why I’m voting for McCain. And to answer your question, the house majority controls most everything. The house majority has been democrat for too long now. Time for change.By Sharon/independent
October 15, 2008 11:34 PM | Link to this
Sen John McCain clearly won the debate. I think some people have been brain washed or something to Obama cult following. Something isn’t right here.By Sharon/independent
October 15, 2008 11:34 PM | Link to this
Sen John McCain clearly won the debate. I think some people have been brain washed or something to Obama cult following. Something isn’t right here.By Sharon/independent
October 15, 2008 11:34 PM | Link to this
Sen John McCain clearly won the debate. I think some people have been brain washed or something to Obama cult following. Something isn’t right here.By Sharon/independent
October 15, 2008 11:34 PM | Link to this
Sen John McCain clearly won the debate. I think some people have been brain washed or something to Obama cult following. Something isn’t right here.By Sharon/independent
October 15, 2008 11:34 PM | Link to this
Sen John McCain clearly won the debate. I think some people have been brain washed or something to Obama cult following. Something isn’t right here.By Sharon/independent
October 15, 2008 11:34 PM | Link to this
Sen John McCain clearly won the debate. I think some people have been brain washed or something to Obama cult following. Something isn’t right here.By Obvious
October 15, 2008 11:33 PM | Link to this
McCain isn’t able to tell the difference between autism and downs-syndrome.By Sharon/independent
October 15, 2008 11:32 PM | Link to this
Sen John McCain clearly won the debate. I think some people have been brain washed or something to Obama cult following. Something isn’t right here.By Sharon/independent
October 15, 2008 11:32 PM | Link to this
Sen John McCain clearly won the debate. I think some people have been brain washed or something to Obama cult following. Something isn’t right here.By Sharon/independent
October 15, 2008 11:32 PM | Link to this
Sen John McCain clearly won the debate. I think some people have been brain washed or something to Obama cult following. Something isn’t right here.By HappyNow
October 15, 2008 11:32 PM | Link to this
DDN Headlines: Voinovich urges Justice Department to investigate ACORN Voting lawsuit charges ACORN with “corrupt activity” Obama paid them $, worked for them as attorney, he is linked to them. Even if John McCain is not your choice, at least he is not linked to ACORN.By Sharon/independent
October 15, 2008 11:31 PM | Link to this
Sen John McCain clearly won the debate. I think some people have been brain washed or something to Obama cult following. Something isn’t right here.By Dan
October 15, 2008 11:31 PM | Link to this
Tina-Does it make a difference? Answer this one question. Does the candidate control the party or does the party control the candidate? I believe we all know the answer. Another Republican will surely repeat our chaotic 8 years. Nothing will change, but the face.By Mac
October 15, 2008 11:25 PM | Link to this
Nice job McCain! Your definitely the right man to lead us in these terrible times. Anybody who can’t see that now, is just plain blinded by their hatered. A Good Stwart of our money does not waste it on things like ear marks and the organization Acorn. Nor do you raise taxes on anybody in a time of CRISIS…wake up people!By Tina
October 15, 2008 11:22 PM | Link to this
Dan, under who’s watch? John McCain or George Bush? I’m not voting for George Bush, he’s not running…By Dan
October 15, 2008 11:20 PM | Link to this
McCain-Isn’t that a breakfast sandwich at McDonalds with 2 slices of bread and you wish you had a sausage patty?By NO JOKE
October 15, 2008 11:14 PM | Link to this
OBAMA, IS IT A CHANCE YOU’RE WILLING TO TAKE?By Mac
October 15, 2008 11:13 PM | Link to this
Way to go McCain!!! Your definitely the right man to lead us in these terrible times. Anybody who can’t see that now is just plain blinded by their hatered. A Good Stewart of our money is not someone who wastes it on pork and organizations like Acorn. Yep thats just what we need in a time of CRISIS…wake up people!By Dan
October 15, 2008 11:12 PM | Link to this
Hey Tina how about the terrorist disguised as Wall St. Bankers who just sold out America for Greed under you know whose ‘watch’. I’m sure some were Paulson’s buddies.By Chris
October 15, 2008 11:10 PM | Link to this
Obama is clearly on the right side of the issues. If you are for jobs, a strong economy, affordable health care, and an effective means to educate it’s young people then Obama is the only logical choice. Obama won the debate because he understands the needs of the majority and not those of the elite minority.By Tina
October 15, 2008 11:08 PM | Link to this
Even if McCain didn’t look right, say the right things, are you willing to have the next President of the United States linked to a terrorist? William Ayres and his wife hosted Obama’s 1st fundraiser in his district to become a Senator! Not a chance I’m gonna take…By Dan
October 15, 2008 11:08 PM | Link to this
The gullibility factor worked for Bush for 8 years. Why not OBAMA?By Stephanie
October 15, 2008 11:05 PM | Link to this
McCain appeared as though he were an aristocrat…rich, well-fed, and polished for a life in politics since birth. He appeared to be struggling with the task of not only communicating with, but genuinely attempting to understand and put himself in the place of the average American. His body language suggested arrogance, as well as the words he chose tonight.By M005E
October 15, 2008 11:04 PM | Link to this
Wow, doesn’t anybody listen to Obama?? Anyone who cares about this country, the economy, jobs, capitalism, life, family, education or any other issues that matter would be foolish to vote for him. McCain was the clear winner. Unfortunately the mainstream media is in bed with Obama and the electorate is gullible enough to believe it. By the times the the truth comes out about lies and voter fraud, the election will be over.By Stephanie
October 15, 2008 11:03 PM | Link to this
McCain appeared as though he were an aristocrat…rich, well-fed, and polished for a life in politics since birth. He appeared to be struggling with the task of not only communicating with, but genuinely attempting to understand and put himself in the place of the average American. His body language suggested arrogance, as well as the words he chose tonight.By GINA
October 15, 2008 11:01 PM | Link to this
Maybe not joke, but Obama did work for William Ayres for 8 YEARS. Ayres appointed him as first Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge right before he ran for Il Senator. FACT CHECK THAT!By judy straniere-ford
October 15, 2008 11:00 PM | Link to this
Obama won this debate—mccain shows too much anger,He does blinkto much and was not answering the questions—kept on attacking Obama—would not want Mccain as a leader in a tense situation and Palin??? she is a joke. She needsot back to the rodeo—yeehah!By Ecartman
October 15, 2008 11:00 PM | Link to this
Obama = change…that we can’t affordBy lax20
October 15, 2008 10:59 PM | Link to this
Hey Heidi isn’t that a German name. Your family wasn’t from NAZI heritage were they. How does it feel?By Dennis Kelly
October 15, 2008 10:59 PM | Link to this
How very sad is it that one of these guys will lead us into the next depression and there’s not a thing either of them can do about it. In the meantime, let’s get rid of every incumbent we can and clean out the House in particular. I wish I could wake up and it would be 2010 - the next two years are going to be brutal!!By Now Decided
October 15, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this
McCain has the same smugness that George Bush has when debating somebody who has policy views opposed to his own. The way he behaves when Obama is answering indicates a sense of intellectual superiority and disdain. This mirrors the demeanor of our outgoing President who rationalized the military engagement of Iraq under false pretenses despite what his intelligence community told him, and has sustained that engagement over public sentiment at the ruination of our American economy. It is time for change and McCain is not change.By Joke
October 15, 2008 10:53 PM | Link to this
www.factcheck.org….Obama DID NOT start his campaign in a living room with Ayers!!By Jennifer
October 15, 2008 10:51 PM | Link to this
How could anyone Republican or Dem think McCain won any of the debates. The guy needs to retire already, seriously. Look what the Bush voters and now McCain supporters have already done to our country. Country 1st my a$$. GOBAMA!By Heidi
October 15, 2008 10:48 PM | Link to this
John McCain clearly won the debate. He required Obama to give straightforward answers and Obama failed. Where did Obama plan his campaign? He did not deny planning it in the terrorist’s living room all he said was that Ayers was not currently involved. We cannot trust Obama because of his Islamic background and obvious terrorist ties. Go McCain-Palin!!!By SpringfieldBusinessOwner
October 15, 2008 10:48 PM | Link to this
John McCain convince me tonight…I can’t afford to pay more taxes and Obama was wrong. Most small businesses make over 250,000 a year gross and we will pay more taxes under Obama. No thanks…ObamaBy Heidi
October 15, 2008 10:48 PM | Link to this
John McCain clearly won the debate. He required Obama to give straightforward answers and Obama failed. Where did Obama plan his campaign? He did not deny planning it in the terrorist’s living room all he said was that Ayers was not currently involved. We cannot trust Obama because of his Islamic background and obvious terrorist ties. Go McCain-Palin!!!By sandy
October 15, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this
McCain blinked so much he seemed like he was lying. He seemed desperate.By null
October 15, 2008 10:45 PM | Link to this
McCain seemed quick to pull the trigger and jump the gun. He showed his arrogance by rolling his eyes a lot of times and smirking. He was the beginner of most attacks. Obama kept his cool and stayed on the issues. This undecided voter is now for Obama!