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The income tax is a progressive tax in which those with the most income pay the most. The idea of eliminating it is just another Republican give-away to the rich. Proponents tell us that such a give-away will draw businesses and investment to the state, thereby ultimately increasing state revenues. This is the same supply-side economics non-sense that Republicans have peddled for the last 30 years. At the national and state level, these policies have in fact been ruinous to the American middle class, who rely on government services like higher education. It is an outrage that Republicans would dare propose more tax cuts for the rich at a time when state services are already being decimated by cutbacks. This bill should be vigorously resisted by all who care about the wellbeing of ordinary Ohioans.

By Lu

January 15, 2010 4:22 PM | Link to this

Ken, you were obviously under a rock during the reign of G.W. Bush. Democraps and Republican’ts are both full of sh*t and working for corporate interests. When are we going to be smart enough to learn that the party affiliation doesn’t effing matter. We need to stop paying our representatives or cut their pay almost completely — that way no one is motivated by money but by serving the people they represent. I would be proud to volunteer for a position like that.

By F the income tax

January 15, 2010 4:11 PM | Link to this

Income tax is STEALING. What I could make in 40 years, I now have to make it in 60 years because of all the tax RAPING of my bank account!! What we could’ve made with ONE parent working we now have to have TWO people working to make the same. Don’t tax MY skill, you didn’t earn it, I DID.

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December 30, 2009 9:01 PM | Link to this

D, your funny. You knew, like all of us the Dems would do what they are doing, ruining our country at warp speed, but somehow you blame the tea party folks and republicans? Take a look in the mirror, stings like a mother, and just wait until Cap & Tax, and Health Care when you pay and don’t get srvice for 4 years, and illegals become legal…. As long as Obama can serve $100/lb Kobe Beef at his parties, though. We can all eat cake.

By null

December 30, 2009 8:52 PM | Link to this

Good luck! I hope he can push it forward. Like PJ O’Rourke said “Giving money & power to politicians, is like giving whiskey & car keys to teenagers”. Politicians are used to the power & money and to see them give it up……well it seems unlikley. Liberals like top shelf liquor, they aren’t going back to PBR’s.

By D

December 25, 2009 9:21 AM | Link to this

To you so called conservatives with a short term memory: Ohio has been run by the Republicans for 16 years before Strickland,nothing was done. CAT tax was put in place before Strickland, nothing was said. The Ohio Supreme Court is now all Republican,what now? The Bush admin. spent billions$, where were you a few years ago? Strickland and Obama simply inherited a Republican mess. Where were you “tea baggers” a few years ago? A bunch of sore losers who want this country and state to fail so you can say,”see what happens when you elect democrats”. All of you FK OFF!!

By ptstick

December 23, 2009 10:20 PM | Link to this

this will never be approved - ohio is rated 47th in highest taxes which we have to pay in all states- recently grocerices appealed CAT tax as additional sales tax and our supreme count said we could not afford to repaid it-the bottom line is if you live in oh then expect the democrats to stick it to you

By Wolf

December 23, 2009 8:58 PM | Link to this

Hey InconvenientFacts - why are you so persistent on knowing the details of how eliminating the tax would work? You should just accept the same answer as you did from the Democrat health care shills: “it will work, trust us”.

By Mike G.

December 23, 2009 8:55 PM | Link to this

This works well in other states and municipalities - sales and use tax is a much more fair system..

By daniel

December 23, 2009 8:31 PM | Link to this

take away all the money for the low lifes and maybe they will work and quit living off of other peoples money!!! ever notice where all the low lifes live? close to where the cities are that take care of them!!

By drunken orangetree

December 23, 2009 5:48 PM | Link to this

All member nations of the EU have substantial, progressive income taxes, as well as VATs. I’m all for putting both in place.

By New Carlisle Ohio

December 23, 2009 5:34 PM | Link to this

Small City’s like New carlisle reap no benefit from State tax dollars I would support higher local taxes offset by lower State and federal tax Great idea

By copyboy

December 23, 2009 5:12 PM | Link to this

A pipe dream. In states with no income taxes, like Texas and Florida, governors lure business and industry with property tax abatements and improvements such as roads, rail spurs, etc. But since states don’t pay for those prizes, local cities and school districts get stuck for it. How about it Huber, Springboro and Beavercreek — ready for 3,000 new students or so, and no new property tax base?

By InconvenientFacts

December 23, 2009 4:55 PM | Link to this

“No state income tax. A VAT (value added tax can replace that)… VATs are what subsidize all socialist European government programs, and they are better off than we are.” Now I’m confused. Are you seriously suggesting we adopt a model of funding government you admit is socialist? I thought Republicans didn’t LIKE socialism.

By InconvenientFacts

December 23, 2009 4:52 PM | Link to this

“Eliminating the state income tax can work and did in the past. Communities should fund their own police, fire and schools. Communities use to be responsible for their communities and funded their own services. Eliminate the state income tax and then you have more money to invest in your community.” So, Leslie: tell me this: If this proposal goes through and when it’s all totaled up, will we be paying the same amount of tax as today? More? Less? Whatever your answer is, how do you KNOW that it’s correct? Gut feel and wishful thinking is not sufficient.

By Mike

December 23, 2009 4:38 PM | Link to this

I like this idea. And a thought for the libs - maybe flattening the taxes would provide a little incentive to the lazy to go to work and make something of themselves rather than relying on others to provide for them. Liberalism stops working once they run out of other people’s money.

By Leslie

December 23, 2009 4:26 PM | Link to this

Eliminating the state income tax can work and did in the past. Communities should fund their own police, fire and schools. Communities use to be responsible for their communities and funded their own services. Eliminate the state income tax and then you have more money to invest in your community. Just like the federal income tax should be reduced so that we have more money in our pockets and more for our community and for our state. Instead we pay more to the federal government so they can spend it on whatever they want instead of our communities. The state government uses the taxes for whatever they want as well. Income tax has become corrupt with our politicians playing political games to get their way.

By Travis Aker

December 23, 2009 4:25 PM | Link to this

I know Beavercreek doesn’t have a income tax,thats the reason why they have more business there than say in Dayton or Springfield,even the sales tax is lower in Greene County.

By InconvenientFacts

December 23, 2009 4:24 PM | Link to this

“The last time the ‘poor’ voted in a school levy, or library levy based on property taxes, they didn’t pay it. ” Sorry, but this is incorrect. Just because “the poor” don’t write a check labeled “property tax”, that does NOT mean they don’t pay property tax. It’s part of their rent. The owner of the property pays it on their behalf.

By FreedomWriter

December 23, 2009 4:23 PM | Link to this

We all know that will never happen. Giving the people oh No-hio a break on paying anything sounds like the worst joke ive ever heard. And if he wasnt so serious, i`d think it funny. I think he better wake up and smell the ripple.

By InconvenientFacts

December 23, 2009 4:20 PM | Link to this

As far as I’m concerned, any proposal for eliminating the income tax needs to explicitly detail exactly how the budget will be balanced without it. Ideally, those details will be part of the law. Cuts? Cuts are fine, as long as you list them and explain how we will manage without whatever gets cut.

By fortressdayton

December 23, 2009 4:19 PM | Link to this

No state income tax. A VAT (value added tax can replace that). As for the statement that these taxes are regressive and somnehoe punish the poor, that is rubbish. The last time the ‘poor’ voted in a school levy, or library levy based on property taxes, they didn’t pay it. Now THAT is punishment. I am working poor and resent the implication that anyone who has anything somehow doesn’t deserve to enjoy it without confiscation, for that is what taxes are. VATs are what subsidize all socialist European government programs, and they are better off than we are. Of course…the unemployed are put to work sweeping streets, and that is as it should be. Welfare is theft and so are unnecessary taxes. No income tax!

By John

December 23, 2009 3:58 PM | Link to this

We never had this tax untill 1971. How did we manage? Less spending apparently. I like this idiot.

By grumpy

December 23, 2009 3:55 PM | Link to this

The income tax needs to be flattened, not eliminated. All Ohioans ought to have some skin in the game and pay an income tax regardless of income. I’m thinking a flat 2.5% across the board tax, with no deductions at all. If you make 10,000 dollars, you pay 250 dollars to the state. If you make 100,000 dollars, you pay 2,500 dollars to the state.

By Right

December 23, 2009 3:51 PM | Link to this

During this depression the government has protected many from feeling the pain…. Government workers (State Local and Federal), Wall Street, Unions (but not the union workers), People on welfare, Health care workers, Banks, Everyone else who is a taxpayer has felt the pain of this depression.

By lastmanstanding

December 23, 2009 3:51 PM | Link to this

If the public would only investigate the Fair Tax and the advantages of this system. State and Federal income taxes are a confiscation of wealth by our government. The Fair Tax puts each citizen in control of his/her taxes based upon purchases. The Fair Tax also takes care of those below the poverty level. It would also increase the state coffers by eliminating tax evasion and deductions by higher wage earners. But we continue to have short sighted individuals like Tomas that believes more in government than a real free market. To quote Tomas, “What an idiot.”

By Joe

December 23, 2009 3:46 PM | Link to this

While I am always in favor of lowering taxes, I don’t think lowering the state income tax will do as much to attract business as lowering other taxes. State income tax is paid by employees, not companies. You need to reduce or eliminate the taxes paid by the companies.

By Business Leader

December 23, 2009 3:27 PM | Link to this

If you eliminate state income tax we won’t be able to fund police, fire and schools to just name a few areas were these funds go toward. TN has more “business friendly environment” because it’s a non right to work state, meaning no oraginized labor and considerably lower wages for all workers. Eliminating a tax concept to bring business doesn’t work it’s just a simple minded GOP sound bite.

By drunken orangetree

December 23, 2009 3:09 PM | Link to this

Business friendly Tennessee? TN and OH have virtually identical unemployment. Wright State costs about $500/yr less to attend than Middle Tennessee State. Poverty rate in OH in 2008 was 13.3%, it was 15.5% in TN. Median household income in OH is $46.6K, in TN it’s $42.4K. Infant mortality rate: 7.74 in Ohio, 9.03 in TN. Yea, cut income taxes. What a great idea.

By Tim

December 23, 2009 2:02 PM | Link to this

Hey, a thinking politician! What a rarity. I lived in TN and I can tell you it’s much more business, (& in general)friendly than Ohio. Why do you think most of the intelligent people have already left? I’m happy to see ONE intelligent one stayed.

By Random

December 23, 2009 1:57 PM | Link to this

Steve, the sales tax and real-estate taxes are not regressive taxes. They are flat taxes. The percentage does not go up or down depending on the dollar amount being taxed. In many respects the flat tax is a “fairer” tax than the progressive income tax we have.

By JB

December 23, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this

The only thing that’s idiotic about it is taking 10 years to get rid of it. The state government is bloated to the gills - I’d fire half of them tomorrow - there’s your savings. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDPtm0-JjD8

By Steve Brack

December 23, 2009 1:32 PM | Link to this

That would leave Ohio relying on ad valorem & excise taxes, the vast majority of the revenue of which is from real estate & sales taxes, both regressive taxes that punish the poor for being poor and shield the rich from having to pay their proportional share of the cost of government.

By Tomas

December 23, 2009 1:26 PM | Link to this

What an idiot!