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Report: 8,900 Ohio deaths could result from no health care reform
Failure to enact health care reform this year will lead to about 8,900 premature deaths of Ohioans between 25 and 64 years old in the next decade, according to a report released on Tuesday, March 2, by Families USA, a consumer health group.
The report - “Lives on the Line: The Deadly Cost of Delaying Health Reform” - says that at the national level the number of deaths per day would increase from 68 per day in 2010 to 84 per day in 2019.
The report uses a methodology developed in an earlier report from the Institute of Medicine to estimate national and state deaths due to lack of health coverage, a press release said.
The report also says that:
*In the 15 years since health care reform last was debated, more than 290,000 Americans from 25-64 years old died prematurely due to lack of health coverage.
*During the next 10 years Ohio is projected to have the 8th largest number of premature deaths due to lack of coverage. The others in the top 10 are: California (34,600); Texas (31,700); Florida (25.400); New York (13,900); Georgia (11,500); North Carolina (9,600); Illinois (9,400); Louisiana (7,700) and Michigan (7,600).
Release of the reports comes as Congress continues to debate health care reform after last week’s summit convened by President Barack Obama.
“Failure to pass health care reform - in effect, doing nothing to make health coverage and care affordable - result in a huge and terrible cost,” Ron Pollack, executive director of Families USA, said in a press release.
“We can measure that cost in many important terms like escalating health care costs and unaffordable increases in premiums, but we should recognize the ultimate, inexcusable consequence - lost lives.”
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By volunteer
March 3, 2010 12:40 PM | Link to this
To Ace: Yes, I know lots of people with high blood pressure have jobs. My husband has high blood pressure and works full-time. He also has health insurance to pay for his meds. Untreated hypertension can cause angina, arrhthmia, kidney failure, choroidopathy, to name just a few problems. Getting a better education is a simplistic answer, but not such a simple accomplishment. And health problems that prevent a person from being able to be employed also could prevent her from getting the better education you think will solve her problems, though that is not necessarily true. there are many, many people with education who are out of work. My friend has a MAster’s Degree and no job. She’s applied everywhere, even for jobs much below her educational level. They tell her she’s overqualified, but there are too many applicants for the jobs she is qualified for.
By 2010
March 3, 2010 7:28 AM | Link to this
What a crock. Think of all the people that die every day with health care.
By middsteve
March 2, 2010 9:11 PM | Link to this
Just one more scare tactic from the libs when they really want things their way.Blood in the streets(gun control),Fla. under water,drowned polar bears(global warming),we’re all gonna die,8900 a month dead(no health care).YADA,YADA,YADA.
By middsteve
March 2, 2010 9:11 PM | Link to this
Just one more scare tactic from the libs when they really want things their way.Blood in the streets(gun control),Fla. under water,drowned polar bears(global warming),we’re all gonna die,8900 a month dead(no health care).YADA,YADA,YADA.
By middsteve
March 2, 2010 9:11 PM | Link to this
Just one more scare tactic from the libs when they really want things their way.Blood in the streets(gun control),Fla. under water,drowned polar bears(global warming),we’re all gonna die,8900 a month dead(no health care).YADA,YADA,YADA.
By Ace
March 2, 2010 2:42 PM | Link to this
justthefacts, Maybe you didnt catch my drift, the source of the data we are debating is from Families USA, which is a pro universal health care front. Their website has a “how many people have lost health care since 2008” counter. Man they were pulling at my heart strings with that one. Families USA is a liberal front putting out progressive propaganda, nuff said.
By justthefacts
March 2, 2010 2:15 PM | Link to this
Ace: The source of the story is provided right there in the article. Or did you actually read the article before you began commenting? Here’s some help. To research the source you copy it’s name directly from the article into a Google search. I suggest you do the same with the source methodology which is also provided. Note, neither is “NewsBusters”. Get back to me when you’re finished and let me know what in either in your opinion support your ridiculous and thoroughly illogical comments you’ve already made here. Thanks!
By Ace
March 2, 2010 1:07 PM | Link to this
justthefacts, You dog on Sgt for his source, yet you don’t do the same with the source of the data we are debating. Typical lib, what a hypocrite.
By justthefacts
March 2, 2010 1:04 PM | Link to this
Retired Sg:. Anyone who thinks “NewsBusters” is a unbiased journalistic source doesn’t have a clue about the difference between facts and right-wing propaganda. Your apparent inability to perform the most limited of critical analysis of your sources is a complete giveaway. I’m sure it makes you very happy to read propaganda that you agree with in no small part because doing so makes you feel like you’re right, doesn’t it? You’re not! Thanks for playing though and have a nice day!
By Ace
March 2, 2010 1:04 PM | Link to this
Volunteer, why did that woman with high blood pressure not have a job. At some point in time she must have chose not to get a better education, which would allow her to have a job that offered insurance or would allow her to pay for it. People all over the US have high blood pressure and insurance, they are called responsible. Kay-Kay unless you’re ten, maybe you should choose to get a better education.
By TRS
March 2, 2010 12:47 PM | Link to this
For the first time in this country, we will be passing onto the next generations a company that offers less opportunity than we were afforded, all because we want it all. No where in the equation does true cost enter the picture. Bills are fashioned so they will pass the financial muster of CBO, tricks are played such as the Dr fix and everything naively thinks that we can furnish healthcare for all w/o it costing a dime. The system is broke - it needs to be improved upon but it should be within the confines of what we can afford, not what we want.
By Retired Sgt
March 2, 2010 12:25 PM | Link to this
To Just the FACTS: no lying here. Those ARE the facts. the 45,000 deaths /yr canard..The study is scewed to favor the point of the people wanting Public HC Option. Newsbusters article explaining EXACTLY WHO did the study: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2009/11/21/abcs-johnson-recites-canard-lack-health-insurance-kills-45-000-annually I have seen the study, I have seen how they conducted it, I have seen how they correlated the data. This is not the first time I have entered the debate about this issue. I have facts on MY side, you have opinions. You are incorrect.
By volunteer
March 2, 2010 11:42 AM | Link to this
I have seen for myself people who do not have health coverage while working in a local free clinic. I saw a woman who was unable to pay for her meds for extreme hereditary high blood pressure because she didn’t have health insurance. If she had helath insurance, she would have been able to treat this disease and therefore hold down a job. No job-no insurance. No insurance-no job. I have seen people with TWO jobs, but no insurance from either. I volunteer at a soup kitchen and have arrived to find a diabetic woman passed out on the steps. You can’t accurately characterize people without health insurance as just lazy and careless.
By middsteve
March 2, 2010 11:41 AM | Link to this
More twisted left side stats and logic . Useless info at best,lies at worst.
By justthefacts
March 2, 2010 11:32 AM | Link to this
Retired Sgt: When you have to lie to present your “arguments” you lose. The study only includes preventable deaths which were caused by lack of access to health care due to lack of health insurance to pay for it. It has nothing to do with “car accidents” or other deaths that are unrelated to lack of health care due to lack of insurance to pay for it.
By theshawn
March 2, 2010 11:31 AM | Link to this
The world is overpopulated as it is. So what if a few more thousand die without a bogus “right” to healthcare. We all die, passing laws that MIGHT postpone a few deaths doesn’t make us wonderful. Many of us with healthcare postpone treatment, having “free” medical care guarantees nothing. I’d love the see the real rational behind these figures quoted as factual here. But the DDN and sheeple don’t dare question it.
By Retired Sgt
March 2, 2010 11:17 AM | Link to this
2 million americans die each year, 48,000 without health insurance. So, by these stats, MORE people die WITH health insurance than without. Additionally, in these stats (That have been cited ad nauseum), the correlation between death and hc insurance is not listed. Example: man dies in a car accident, dead at the scene. He had no health ins. This would be cited in the stats (died due to lack of health care coverage). The lack of coverage had nothing to do with the death, but it will be listed in that category. The sad fact is that newspaper outlets, like the DDN, refuse to acknowledge these very simple facts. Another agenda driven media outlet..
By kay-kay
March 2, 2010 11:17 AM | Link to this
You need to stop(ACE).I’m tried of hearing about people not taking care of themself.who cares about people who not work.Still give them health care that way people wont died.Have a heart and yes i do work and have blue cross blue shield.I pray that everyone will have it.
By Retired Sgt
March 2, 2010 11:16 AM | Link to this
2 million americans die each year, 48,000 without health insurance. So, by these stats, MORE people die WITH health insurance than without. Additionally, in these stats (That have been cited ad nauseum), the correlation between death and hc insurance is not listed. Example: man dies in a car accident, dead at the scene. He had no health ins. This would be cited in the stats (died due to lack of health care coverage). The lack of coverage had nothing to do with the death, but it will be listed in that category. The sad fact is that newspaper outlets, like the DDN, refuse to acknowledge these very simple facts. Another agenda driven media outlet..
By justthefacts
March 2, 2010 10:57 AM | Link to this
Ace, get your facts right. The causes of death you state are just as high in the population that has health insurance. The link between a lack of health coverage and premature death occurs for several reasons: * The uninsured are less likely to have a usual source of care outside the emergency room; * The uninsured often go without screenings and preventive care; and * The uninsured often delay or forgo needed medical care.
By Rick
March 2, 2010 10:55 AM | Link to this
This article is not journalism, it is pure advocacy. It does not present any opposing view. The premise is preposterous, sort of like the mythical three million homeless that the press touted during the Bush I administration. (The coverage of them evaporated upon the inauguration of President Clinton.) Then, like now, the mainstream media functions as a transmission service for liberals.
By Displaced Daytonians
March 2, 2010 10:54 AM | Link to this
8,900 will die from “lack of health coverage”. Yet, 12,400 will die from waiting in line for services from the new health care plan. That doesn’t sound like a good number to me.
By Displaced Daytonian
March 2, 2010 10:50 AM | Link to this
Last time I checked “lack of health coverage” is not a valid cause of death on a death certificate.
By parental
March 2, 2010 10:44 AM | Link to this
The study the DDN sited was conducted by an organization that is backing ObamaCare, loves the thought of government management of your health care and has trashed every idea brought up by Republicans. They are not unbiased. The numbers they present are certainly exagerated. This group does’t even think you are smart enought to decide how to manage your own health care. Check out their website for yourself. See if this is a non-partisan study.
By manbearpig
March 2, 2010 10:36 AM | Link to this
Living is itself a terminal situation that none of us can escape. People need to take responsibility for themselves and stop expecting other people to pay their way. I have lived very frugally and also I have kept myself in good shape for 46 years but I pay ALOT in taxes to support people that do not do either.
By Ace
March 2, 2010 10:34 AM | Link to this
DDN, your bleeding heart is getting all over my shoes.
By Ace
March 2, 2010 10:32 AM | Link to this
Most of those 8,900 people have made choices in their lives that prevented them from getting the health care they require. They either did not watch their weight, they smoked and drank too much, did drugs and overdosed, or were just too lazy to actually do the work it takes to take care of themselves or their family. Like my mom always says, “Choose the action, choose the consequence.”