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By Former restaurant customer

June 3, 2010 3:56 PM | Link to this

Or maybe you just enjoy threatening women and children with a gun, since I’m a mom.

By Former restaurant customer

June 3, 2010 3:40 PM | Link to this

Dear “tighty whities”, if anyone ever really confronted you, you would soil your drawers faster than a BP exec. I’m not leaving anywhere, but my small fanily and my disposable income will be going to a grocery store. Or do you intend to “carry” there, too? **head.

By KevinJ

June 3, 2010 2:37 PM | Link to this

I’ve carried concealed for the last 30 years. The only times I don’t are when metal detectors are an issue. I don’t have a CCW permit and never will. I should not have to ask permission of my government to legally defend myself. A better crime deterent would be for everyone to carry in the open. Lastly, it’s better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

By Mr. Paul Kersey

June 3, 2010 6:43 AM | Link to this

I’d like to say that I believe in the 2nd Amendment & I work in some of the crime areas in the Miami Valley (Salem Ave. areas) I carry a firearm everyday espeacially over there. It’s no big deal, unless you want to do me harm, I hope you don’t but over in that area all bets are off. Everyone in the State of Ohio better get use to firearms cause thay are here to stay and this law WILL pass and go on the books of the ORC

By Righty Tighty

June 2, 2010 6:15 PM | Link to this

Dear “Restarant customer,” the borders are open - just leave now. Run for your life! The world is going to end since Ohio is now a s**t state. Quick - get out while you can! Hurry, now. Run, Forrest, run!

By Restaurant customer

June 2, 2010 3:47 PM | Link to this

The headline should be “Open Season on Common Sense.” Congratulations, Ohio, you are officially a s**t state.

By Yeah, yeah, yea, yea

June 2, 2010 7:34 AM | Link to this

We’ve heard all the rhetoric before. Remember when Ohio’s CCW was passed, the leftists said there would be gun fights at noon downtown, blood rolling down the streets, thousands of innocents slaughtered each day. Well, where is it? Violent crime is down. IN YOUR FACE LEFTY!

By Dave

June 2, 2010 1:11 AM | Link to this

Everyone that is anti-gun just look at the countries that took away guns. Bad idea…

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By John

June 1, 2010 6:17 PM | Link to this

I can see by reading several of the posts that there is a great deal of misunderstanding, ignorance, and just outright anti gun sentiment out there. The bill would permit restaurant carry in establishments that serve alcohol, not bars. CHL holders are the last bunch that would risk a felony. Why go through the training and rigorous background checks if their intention wasn’t to be responsible? It’s the criminal element who has no regard for the law and they are the very reason we carry. Paranoid? Why should I be? I’m carrying……….

By Ha ha ha ha

June 1, 2010 5:34 PM | Link to this

Laughable is the right name for that crackhead. Is that you, Babara Boxer?

By laughable

June 1, 2010 9:07 AM | Link to this

This country which is full of drug addicts and drunks should be very fearful of idiots packing a gun. The Constitution needs updated. Laws that are 235 years old are outdated and bizarre. (Laughable) is a better word. I can see it now. Daddy gets drunk at the local bar, comes home and leaves the guns on the front seat of the pick up truck. Ten year old boys blows the head off the neighbor kid. Hide and watch.

By Laughable

June 1, 2010 8:54 AM | Link to this

I wish people would take the second amendment and shove it up their a*s. It is not 1776. The Wanna be cops and robbers in this country. The NRA is a bunch of a holes. We do not have to shoot our next meal anymore. Be prepared for many more Colombine’s. Most of the people packing are a bunch of goons who should not be allowed to cary a water gun. So Watch out. Remember….the guy wearing a gun to mow. (Laughable) Sad though.

By Laughable

June 1, 2010 8:54 AM | Link to this

I wish people would take the second amendment and shove it up their a*s. It is not 1776. The Wanna be cops and robbers in this country. The NRA is a bunch of a holes. We do not have to shoot our next meal anymore. Be prepared for many more Colombine’s. Most of the people packing are a bunch of goons who should not be allowed to cary a water gun. So Watch out. Remember….the guy wearing a gun to mow. (Laughable) Sad though.

By Bill

June 1, 2010 7:37 AM | Link to this

Self defense is the number one human right.

By Sheila

June 1, 2010 7:30 AM | Link to this

If you are a rapist and you had your choice of me (gorgeous, armed, and trained) and Leftwing Lucie (homely with patuli and an Obama sticker) - who you gonna choose as your victim?

By Restaurant customer

May 31, 2010 5:32 PM | Link to this

I have NEVER been in a position, especially at a neighborhood place, where I wish I had a gun. I don’t know ANYONE who I would call competent to carry a gun. I DEFINITELY can’t bring my family to a restaurant that allows handguns. The proliferation of guns leads to people shooting each other over parking spaces (true crime), and contributes to crimes against police officers. Finally, discretion is the better part of valor, so all of you yodeling yokels don’t meet anyone’s definition.

By Tom

May 31, 2010 3:41 PM | Link to this

Most of U need to chill with the BAD comments about this Law trying to come in. Im a CCW holder and if I have that” I CAN PROTECT ” My family & others from a person that isn’t in the right fram of mind. The BAD person isn’t going to OBEY the laws so “Y” should I let them have the upper hand on me first ???.. Some of u need to pull your head up out of the sand and quit being SISSYs and stand up to help fighting crime. For those say something about the frickers thing. IF THE GUY HAD BETTER KNOWLEDGE ON HOW TO CARRY A GUN HE WOULDN’T HAD THE INCIDENT. I’ve been carrying for years and never had no incident. Not to say I wouldn’t have one in the future.

By Joe

May 31, 2010 1:43 PM | Link to this

Well, Larry, I see you’re a practicing mass-population psychologist. You think we’re all nuts. Fine, your opinion. Just tell me the answers to these two questions: 1. Are you more afraid of the person who’s carrying a concealed firearm in a bar but not drinking (even though off duty cops are carrying theirs and ARE drinking) or are you more afraid of the drunk who just left the bar and gets behind the wheel of his car. 2. When did I give up the right to defend myself? If the bar doesn’t want me to bring a firearm into their establishment, they can tape a “No guns” sign to the door and I won’t bring it in. Just remember, Larry, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away…

By tallsandi

May 31, 2010 10:26 AM | Link to this

What a lame brained idea. No one needs a gun in a bar. You are not denied your 2nd amendment rights by not being able to have a gun in a bar where people are getting drunk and stupid. Absolutley retarded idea.

By restaurant customer

May 30, 2010 9:50 PM | Link to this

I miss the days when we were just arguing about smoking cigarettes in restaurants! Now I might be shot if someone drops their gun in the bathroom or doesn’t get good service.

By james

May 30, 2010 7:41 PM | Link to this

well, guns in bars makes it safer for all.if you are anti-gun just say so, then chl people will let the bad guy do you any way he can,dont worry iam sure they will get him soner or later.never mind the damage he did to you or yours.

By james

May 30, 2010 7:41 PM | Link to this

well, guns in bars makes it safer for all.if you are anti-gun just say so, then chl people will let the bad guy do you any way he can,dont worry iam sure they will get him soner or later.never mind the damage he did to you or yours.

By larry

May 30, 2010 5:12 PM | Link to this

I love the State and the Concealed Carry NUT CASES, that want this law. Probably all of these NUT CASES are DRUNKS OR DRINKERS and the Wild West will be REBORN. Can,t smoke, NO FREE DRINKS IN OHIO CASINOS, BUT, hey United States Citizens, come to OHIO, You can carry your gun in the bars

By Dutch

May 30, 2010 9:03 AM | Link to this

Senator Jones, the pro-family, pro-neighborhood conservative from Springboro thinks this is a good idea? ‘Scuse me, Senator - I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but the schools in your district are kind of a mess. Maybe you should focus on your constituents actual problems and issues -instead of making sure Lewshus can carry his widowmaker into Frickers?

By Dave

May 29, 2010 4:46 PM | Link to this

Anarchy? Are you serious? I bet if someone broke in your house you would want a gun… If someone breaks in your house with a gun or a knife he or she can make you and your family do what ever he or she wants..

By throw the bums out

May 29, 2010 1:02 PM | Link to this

once again the DULLARD elected officals of this state want to impose the will of a minority ie;NRA & CCW on the majority. WAKE UP OHIO!!! throw these bums out!!!CALL YOUR STATE OFFICALS!!! DDN stand up for the the people with some common sense.STOP THIS INSANITY!!people with guns leads to ANARCHY!

By D. E.

May 29, 2010 10:03 AM | Link to this

I’m all for the second amendment. However, I would rather hear about so many more important things that our legislature is working on. This seems to be an issue that would be on the back burner while so many serious issues were addressed!

By Retired Sgt

May 29, 2010 9:44 AM | Link to this

One word-NO…Better yet, HELL NO!. Just a few months ago there was an accidental discharge of a firearm in a FRickers on Miller Ln. A young man improperly handling the firearm in the establishment. If you are going to a biz with alcohol, leave your gun at home or locked in the trunk. This is the stupidest idea I think I have ever heard.

By Hornet96

May 29, 2010 8:26 AM | Link to this

Wow, I wonder how my parents and grandparents and their grandparents and so on have survived so long. With it being so dangerous to go outside without a gun they should already be dead, myself included. I am a gun owner, and lifetime NRA member. I have never been afraid to go outside without a gun. If I were, I wouldn’t deserve to be an American. Stop living in fear.

By c smith

May 29, 2010 8:07 AM | Link to this

yes i have my cc,,but i cant do that,,,but we have an opean carry …which u can duh…so the law needs to be changed…as long as u dont drink…

By smoke & mirrors

May 29, 2010 7:42 AM | Link to this

Yes..let people carry guns in bars or where ever.You see all the shootings in bars anyway.Look at Trotwood a guy was killed and 3-4 others wounded last year.The no guns law didn’t stop that shooting.

By Man Time

May 29, 2010 12:33 AM | Link to this

Little baby boycott is sure going to show the NRA - isn’t he/she/it? I do support restaurants that have the sign welcoming carriers and I do not eat in the target ranges for bad people that have the no gun sign. I have not eaten in one for years. I just don’t feel safe where there is a sign that implies it’s a free-for-all zone for bad people. Sorry, if you have one of those no-gun signs, I go somewhere else.

By a voice

May 29, 2010 12:19 AM | Link to this

@guns kill people— It is totally legal to open carry as you suggest. But, when sheeple see somebody carrying openly they call the police. Nobody wants to be harassed by police for exercising their constitutional rights. So we choose to carry concealed. The police prefer this. Fewer inducing panic (false) charges that way. Good idea though.

By Bad People Kill People

May 29, 2010 12:13 AM | Link to this

Bad people kill people - not guns. Only idiots are capable of conceiving otherwise. Only tyrants want to disarm good citizens. Just look throughtout history. Only tyrants.

By a voice

May 29, 2010 12:06 AM | Link to this

Nice distortion DDN. The bill specifically states that you can carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol as long as you aren’t drinking and aren’t in the part that is specifically for drinking. It doesn’t allow you to carry in a bar. Can you start hiring people who can actually read?

By guns kill people

May 28, 2010 10:05 PM | Link to this

If people are legally allowed to carry guns, then why do they need to be concealed? Wear it on a holster so I know you have one.

By Great idea

May 28, 2010 4:36 PM | Link to this

I think its a great idea. People are going to carry guns to these places anyway. Why not let people who are doing it legally and for their own safety and safety of others. When people go to rob someone and get shot because they had a license to carry and conceal criminals will think twice about what they do. I love the idea.

By Great idea

May 28, 2010 4:36 PM | Link to this

I think its a great idea. People are going to carry guns to these places anyway. Why not let people who are doing it legally and for their own safety and safety of others. When people go to rob someone and get shot because they had a license to carry and conceal criminals will think twice about what they do. I love the idea.

By Anthony DiSabatino

May 28, 2010 4:34 PM | Link to this

People with conceal carry licenses are law abiding, decent citizens who are exercising their right to protect themselves and family. They pass background checks. I’d rather have a gun in their hands when I’m eating at a restaurant than someone else who has bad intent. Anyone who is concerned about the matter should speak with someone who has a conceal carry license and they would perhaps have their fears or worries allayed. I think calling license owners ‘rednecks’ is an erroneous, ignorant categorization. Get to know some before you speak.

By Back to Arkansas

May 28, 2010 4:06 PM | Link to this

I’m going back to Arkansas or maybe Texas. Too many rednecks in Ohio, especially the politicians.

By mim

May 28, 2010 11:31 AM | Link to this

I’m better with a crossbow—hope that’s not a problem.

By Rob

May 28, 2010 10:35 AM | Link to this

Concealed Carry is for people who understand that when seconds count, the cops are only minutes away…

By Not rare...

May 28, 2010 10:12 AM | Link to this

I ordered a medium rare steak in a restaurant. It was served rare to me. I heard “moo” when I cut into it. If this law was in effect I could have shot the poor thing and sent it back to the chef.

By Lawrence

May 28, 2010 9:58 AM | Link to this

Contrary to common sense, the opposition to the concealed carry amendment came disproportionately from black Senators representing largely urban and inner-city communities. Since crime has such a devastating effect on these communities, one would think that those who purport to represent them would desire to empower the honest and law abiding citizens of these areas, giving them the ability to defend themselves against the tide of violence and lawlessness. The specious and disingenuous reasoning of those who stood against passage of this amendment is at best puzzling.

By Bigs

May 28, 2010 9:39 AM | Link to this

Concealed Carry works! In 2003 the year before concealed carry was legal in Ohio ther were 6479 violent crimes in The Cincy metro area. In 2009 there were 3976 violent crimes. This 61% drop in violent crime happened at a time when police forces were laying off and the economy was tanking. The thuggs out there know more and more people are carrying. That is the number one reason violent crime is down. Look at the FBI statistics against the legalization of concealed carry!

By null

May 28, 2010 9:26 AM | Link to this

Those who go through the troubles of getting the conceal license likely respect what it means and are not going to be a problem. Sounds like a good law is being passed here.

By Bill

May 28, 2010 9:21 AM | Link to this

With some of the comments here, I can understand why the anti-gun people are laughing on the side. Carrying a concealed weapon is serious stuff, you should act and talk like it is! For me I intend to carry anywhere it’s legal. Do I want to use my weapon, NO! But I will if I have to.

By Eddie

May 28, 2010 9:21 AM | Link to this

So what if I’m gay… I’m proud of the fact. My lover “booklover553” and I are so afraid of the big guns… we only like the small ones.

By Henry

May 28, 2010 9:14 AM | Link to this

Drunk rednecks with guns in saloons. Another good reason to stay home.

By Permit holder

May 28, 2010 9:04 AM | Link to this

I will never understand the belief of people that not allowing Concealed Carry will fix gun crime and make people safer. Permit holders are far more responsible than you give us credit. Don’t worry about gunfights as we only need to fire 2 quick rounds at close range. The distance and time in a justified shooting is very short.

By Anon

May 28, 2010 9:01 AM | Link to this

The people who shoot people in bars and restaurants are the ones who wouldn’t care if there was a law saying they couldn’t carry in there anyway.

By Jack

May 28, 2010 8:20 AM | Link to this

These anti-gun people are hysterical idiots who think if the wish hard enough, all the bad people will leave them alone. Most are middle or upper income folks who have a lawn service so they can dine at some upper crust establishment. They have no clue what life is about. When they get robbed they act like a scared little deer in the headlights. They don’t live or work in high crime areas. Some won’t even drive through one! All the idiots that predicted daily gun battles when Ohio enacted concealed carry were wrong weren’t they! It didn’t happen. Now the idiots are saying the same thing again with this new legislation.

By Raymond

May 28, 2010 7:30 AM | Link to this

Just remember as great as our LEO’s are they can’t protect you from harm 24/7. If someone assaults you or brings you in harms way they can only go after a SUSPECT after you have been harmed. My wife and I just received our concealed carry license’s we are buy no means fanatics about our rights to carry a weapon, just we decided with all the things going on in this NEW WORLD, we wanted the option to protect our selves. Would rather live in a community of Licensed and trained concealed carry permit owners than a community of illegal gun owners..

By Antis are NUTS!

May 28, 2010 7:29 AM | Link to this

There are two types of people: gun toters and targets. Which would you rather be?

By Bugsey

May 28, 2010 7:06 AM | Link to this

Don’t know what the big deal is, Ive been pack-en for years thats why its called concealed. think I’m gonna knock on door and yell I have a gun in my pants and I’m coming in. wow people.

By null

May 28, 2010 6:35 AM | Link to this

here we go again, another RIGHT trying to be taken away by a group of people who don’t know what they are talking about. No matter what the subject matter is ,WE should defend our RIGHTS and if the law is broken take action at that time. That’s why your car is capable of going over the speed limit and the speed limit is 55, get it. It’s also a loaded gun but I don’t see anyone protesting to try to to get the automakers to put limits on the speed of the cars.

By JustMe

May 28, 2010 6:20 AM | Link to this

Vet, I like that, “the men are talking” wish I would have thought of it. I do believe that when it comes to infringing on our rights that non-vets are meant to be seen and not heard.

By JustMe

May 28, 2010 6:10 AM | Link to this

I can’t help but be amazed at the number of people who say they feel safer in public when only the criminals are the ones who are carrying guns. Here is a recent fact, violent crime is down in Ohio, is it because the economy is so bad that criminals can’t afford bullets or is it because criminals can no longer feel safe in the knowledge they are the only one in the place with a gun? I guess it could be that people are finally becoming human, doubtful but possible. When Ohio passed the smoking ban I started taking my dining business out of state since I like to enjoy a cigarette after eating. So I think that if I was afraid of the good guys carrying guns I would just lock myself in a closet. If you have ever stood behind me in line at the bank or grocery you were next to a good guy carrying a gun, sorry I scared you.

By vet

May 28, 2010 5:48 AM | Link to this

I am not sure what everyone is so upset about or defensive about. Perhaps some of you men did not serve in the military. Don’t worry, the Vets and the gun owners will take care of you and your prius driving friends. Men will protect the girls and the girly men. Just don’t worry your pretty little heads about it. The men are talking.

By Anders

May 27, 2010 10:41 PM | Link to this

booklover553, it sounds like you have done extensive research on this topic. I assume you prefer the Derringer carrier to the Glockster.

By John

May 27, 2010 10:12 PM | Link to this

The law should never keep me from defending myself. Those are rights protected by the Second Amendment of the Constitution. If people wish to drink alcohol in bars or anywhere else they should not be carrying firearms. Thank you Dayton Daily News for allowing me to express this opinion.

By Ogre

May 27, 2010 9:59 PM | Link to this

People! Get a frickin’ grip! If you need to carry a gun for whatever legitimate reason, then carry one. If you don’t need to carry one, then don’t carry one just because it’s your right. Carrying a gun for no other reason than to make a political statement just makes you look like a fanatic idiot. In ohio, you can legally open carry in most places. If you want to carry concealed, you can do that too with a modest investment in some training and a background check. People making generalizations about owning guns being related to male endowment are also idiots. And Nate, few people carry “revolvers” anymore (they only hold six rounds). Most people carry semi-automatic handguns because they are slimmer and can be concealed easier. Get your frickin’ terminology right.

By tired of it.

May 27, 2010 9:42 PM | Link to this

another failure of the Bush administration!

By Jambalaya Man

May 27, 2010 9:04 PM | Link to this

The right to carry wherever I feel like is afforded me by Constitution. I have some uncertainty about my sexuality, but having the gun at my side helps me make up for it. If I need a gun to feel like a normal person, then it’s my darn right no matter what you libs say

By boycott

May 27, 2010 8:51 PM | Link to this

A boycott of all restaurants and bars needs to be organized by anti-gun groups. Show the NRA that we can vote with our cash.

By Matt

May 27, 2010 7:29 PM | Link to this

Did any of you read this article? It means I could now carry in a bar or restaurant that serves alcohol as long as I’m not drinking. And yes, I will shoot anybody who insults the Steelers. ANYBODY.

By chris

May 27, 2010 7:05 PM | Link to this

I am not giving you a tip… and why don’t you just give me all your money while we are at it.

By Grypie

May 27, 2010 6:58 PM | Link to this

If they are gonna pass this law, they also need todo mental checks, why the hell do you need a gun at a bar, sounds like the murder rate is goping up in Dayton, escpecially since 10% of law enforcement is retiring, also if your on welfare you shouldn’t be allowed to have that option!

By Question

May 27, 2010 6:58 PM | Link to this

Why are there so many tandom shootings nowadays. I dont remember reading about this sort of thing happening in the recent past

By Does it Matter?

May 27, 2010 6:54 PM | Link to this

People drunk in bars…with guns, does it bother anyone?!?!?! And what exactly constitutes a bar, does BW3s count, its a family restaurant afterall. I guess I’ll just order delivery from now on. Better my odds of not geeting shot in the crossfire during a shootout over someone insulting somebody’s NFL team.

By Jason

May 27, 2010 5:53 PM | Link to this

Eddie… police only clean up teh mess of crime after the fact. Evil and violence do exist and involuntarily impact innocent people. Stop crying that some people choose to lawfully defend themselves EVERYWHERE they go. If you dont want to , then dont. But keep your nose out of the business of others. Dont commit violence and you will never see a concealed carry holder’s gun. Think otherwise? Then CONTACT YOUR POLITICAL REPRESENTATIVES instead of crying on internet forums.

By just wondering

May 27, 2010 5:48 PM | Link to this

To Eddie and Booklover553. I wonder what you would do if someone pulled a knife or gun and demanded your money.Would you ask to see the size of his pxxxs.just wondering. You two are on the wrong web site.The one you need is called gay to stay

By Nurse

May 27, 2010 5:47 PM | Link to this

Four of the nurses in my unit carry legally - and two more are planning to get a CCW license this month.

By Matt

May 27, 2010 5:17 PM | Link to this

Hey Tom, welcome to 5 years ago. Guns are everywhere. More people than you think are carrying. Accept it.

By Tom

May 27, 2010 5:13 PM | Link to this

Is this type law important? Our gulf is ruined, our economy is in trouble, our jobs are gone, … Is this all our elected offical can do? Why the hell you need guns in public places?

By Tom

May 27, 2010 5:13 PM | Link to this

Is this type law important? Our gulf is ruined, our economy is in trouble, our jobs are gone, … Is this all our elected offical can do? Why the hell you need guns in public places?

By Jambalaya Man

May 27, 2010 5:03 PM | Link to this

booklover553 Eddie Is the dong the only thing that you can think about.

By Jambalaya Man

May 27, 2010 5:00 PM | Link to this

I find it so funny that this is a discussion about the right to carry a weapon and all that “Eddie” and “booklover553” can think about is the male sex organ. With a a book in one have what is in the other one ?

By Matt

May 27, 2010 4:59 PM | Link to this

No, it’s about my right to defend myself wherever I might be. Also my p__is

By Jambalaya Man

May 27, 2010 4:57 PM | Link to this

The old saying is still true…. It’s better to have and not need than to need and not have. I carry all the time. Wake up and get your head out of your a_ _. This is not the old west.. it is a time when evil is everywhere around us. I will not walk this earth in fear. I protect my life and my family’s lives. Period End of Discussion.

By booklover553

May 27, 2010 4:52 PM | Link to this

The bigger the gun, the smaller the p***s.

By Eddie

May 27, 2010 4:45 PM | Link to this

“Are there people really upset that they can’t have their revolver strapped to them at all times? What is this, the old West?” Yes, it’s to make up for a certain lack of manhood.

By Nate

May 27, 2010 4:37 PM | Link to this

Are there people really upset that they can’t have their revolver strapped to them at all times? What is this, the old West?