By paul

December 29, 2010 4:45 PM | Link to this

Unions are the main reason Ohio has lost jobs and why people are moving out of Ohio. Public employee unions will put many states in bankruptcy, too. Public union employees haven’t had to sacrifice the past 3 or more years while the rest of us lost our jobs or were underemployed. Its time public employee unions man-up and make the sacrifices needed to save these states from going under. All employees need to take a 15% pay cut, start contributing more toward their healthcare; and reform those ridiculous pensions!

By paul

December 29, 2010 12:53 PM | Link to this

Ohio is in the very shape its in due to the republicans. And now we have thrown the keys right back to the very ones who drove us off a cliff. Its no surprise why were in the shape were in and after reading some of these posts it leaves no doubt as to what kind of mentality or the lack thereof it takes to vote for career criminals and corruption like Boehner, Kasich and Portman will bring. Way to go Ohio, not really sure what your were thinking. I think faux noise and the right wing talking heads two year temper tantrum incited the sheeple now were all going to pay.

By Government Teacher

December 24, 2010 2:00 AM | Link to this

Philman- I love it. You want to know what party I am. The students are the same way. I will let you know when we are done discussing the issues. As for your question, I don’t teach them what it should do, I teach them what it does now (maintain a legal and social order, correcting for externalities, providing goods/services, maintaining competition, maintaining the economy and redistribution of income). Mike R.- If you read my earlier post, I teach them that both parties rig the system when given a chance (see my reference to the history of the 3rd District). Watch out for this one but I teach them the trick to preventing the rigging from going on is to have both Democrats and Republicans in power at the same time. History proves this one to be true. It also prevents the government from going too far from one extreme to the other. Divided government on a national level might have stopped Obama’s health care from being passed and might have stopped Bush’s tax cuts from being passed. I am sure that I just angered everyone on the web site. Ha ha, I love stirring the pot in class to get discussions going between students. That gets the students to think and that is the way I run my class.

By Mike R

December 23, 2010 10:50 AM | Link to this

Joanie, I believe you are the one confused—At least when it comes to Sen. Voinovich. Voinovich let himself bounce around like a ping-pong ball in the sport of politics. Rarely did Voinovich stand ground solely on conviction or principle. George wetted his finger and stuck in up in the air to see which way the proverbial “safe” winds were blowing and then proceeded in that direction. Voinovich, like many politicians, was poll driven. Looking out for Ohioans wasn’t a main driver for ole George’s votes. Just look at this past summer when he co-sponsored a bill with Rockefeller that would cost $22 BILLION dollars for Carbon Capture Sequestration. Where or where did George suggest that poison be pumped?? Right here in the Northern Miami Valley—possibly polluting one of our greatest resources—Clean, available, water! Now, you may consider someone possibly poisoning your drinking water as “someone looking out for you,” but most of us don’t.

By Joanie

December 23, 2010 8:45 AM | Link to this

Obviously Sleeve, you have not looked at Boehner’s voting record,or at least comprehended it. Boehner will do nothing to protect his district. He only protects his own self-interests, his wealthy donors. Do you understand that? And, FYI, I’m an Independant. I will miss George Voinovich. Unlike Boehner, he served our state doing what he felt was best for Ohio and the country. I didn’t always agree with him, but I respect him. Boehner is not worthy of respect.

By Philman

December 23, 2010 5:21 AM | Link to this

Dear Government Teacher do you teach your students that the governments role is to ( give to each according to their need, from each according to their ability, or do you teach them to study hard & work hard, to be whatever you want to be in this world?your answer will tell me what party you belong,

By Mike R

December 22, 2010 4:09 PM | Link to this

Gov’t Teacher, I know exactly what gerrymandering is. Somepeople (maybe you?) will also say that it’s all semantics. But if you’re going to teach that Republicans are gerrymandering then you better say the same thing about Dems too. Not that the Dems are simply redrawing congressional districts as required by law—reapportionment. It’s a subtle difference and by painting one party as “rigging” the system to the other as just simply following the law that plants a seed in impressionable minds. I hope I’m wrong, but I have the sense you teach about gerrymandering denoting a negative connotation towards only one party.

By Yahoo

December 22, 2010 3:37 PM | Link to this

Apparently Robyn has no idea who pays the majority of taxes in the USA. The top 25% of earners pay (are you ready for this?) 85% of all Income taxes. Therefore Robyn, it is not “giving to the rich and taking from…everyone else,” It is more like “taking less from the rich and making everyone else a little more responsible for themselves.” When you exceedingly tax those who are successful and have made the right decisions to reward those who have not made the right decisions over and over, you drive those businesses and high end earners out of your area. why has the population dwindled? High Taxes and a policy that drives businesses to states that tax them less, taking some population with them.

By Robyn Harris

December 22, 2010 2:47 PM | Link to this

TO THE VICTORS COME THE SPOILS by EDMUND DANTES It is refreshing to witness a tiny moment of Republican honesty after Mr. Boehner’s endless whining and blubbering about “protecting the children.” This election and the destruction to follow is about one thing, giving to the rich and taking from … , well, pretty much everyone else.

By ohiodale

December 22, 2010 2:41 PM | Link to this

I have two comments. First of all Government Teacher you have no right to state your opinions when teaching, your opininons are irrelavant. You may say you are just one more opinion but since you are a teacher you have a hugh influence on the students and you actually already know this which is why you do it. My wife teaches and never states her opinion period. The point I take from this article is people are leaving high tax states like NY, OH, PA, IL, etc to move to states with no state income taxes. The only reason CA’s population didn’t decline is because of immigrants. This doesn’t surprise me in the least and shouldn’t be of any surprise to anybody else who lives in this state. Ohio will continue to lose population due to the weather, taxes and crime. Whos wants to live in a state with humid summers, cold cloudy winters and the 4th highests taxes in the nation?

By Government Teacher

December 22, 2010 2:17 PM | Link to this

Oh..ok: First of all, I don’t teach a class that any student could have me again after I teach government. Besides, my opinion is not relevant in a class outside the political science realm. In my other classes, I don’t mention my personal opinion of any issue. I tell them my opinion is not relevant to their opinion. Second, if you had read my posts fully, you would see that I enable them to critically think and develop their own opinions. When I do tell them my opinions on the issues, I am just one more opinion in the pool of opinions. They will have the ability to figure out if they agree or disagree with my opinion. Finally, students just want to know what I am. I consider this a win for my teaching because the students are engaged in the class and are paying attention to everything. When they guess, they must justify their guess of my political persuasion based on what they have learned in the class.

By Oh...ok

December 22, 2010 12:01 PM | Link to this

So the Government teacher doesnt pollute the well until after the semester is over. What if you have the same students back for another class teach? You see, a teacher should teach from a neutral viewpoint, and never discuss with the class their political leanings. During class, After class or After the Semester, for if you do, you taint the pool.

By Government Teacher

December 22, 2010 10:59 AM | Link to this

To clarify one point I made in my last comment, I save my political opinions till the end of the semester, not just the end of a discussion or the end of class.

By Government Teacher

December 22, 2010 10:49 AM | Link to this

Mike R.: I teach all the terms for my students to know. We talked about the impact the 2010 election would have on reapportionment for the state prior to and after the election. For the record, gerrymandering is the redrawing of district lines to favor one party over another. I am more than in the bounds to use the term. With all five members of the commission being Republican, if you think anything other than gerrymandering is going to happen, you are as crazy as some of the other people on here. My students know the history of the 3rd District. It was drawn to benefit Democrats (12 terms of Tony Hall)and redrawn to benefit Republicans (6 terms of Mike Turner). Finally, I don’t tell my students what my political affiliation is until after the semester exam has occurred and I don’t give them my opinion on political issues til the end. I give them the chance to guess and most of the time, they guess wrong. My philosophy is to let them make their opinions. I provide both sides of the story so that they can make their own opinions.

By Outta here

December 22, 2010 10:38 AM | Link to this

last one to leave Ohio be sure to shut off the lights

By Anyone home?

December 22, 2010 9:18 AM | Link to this

You socialists are in a panic. Politics will do that to you. Your rise to more power has been cross checked, and you’re in attack mode. I like seeing that in a destructive political movement such as yours. You show your true destructive intent, arrogance, condencention to common sense Americans…and they’re finally paying attention to you. There’s nothing more loathsome to you people than someone making themselves successful without your “help”. A greased rope thrown to someone to pull themselves up is not “help”. People are leaving Ohio to have productive lives elsewhere. Two seats in the U.S. House have left Ohio. You ran a productive state into the ground with your unions, high taxes, and stifling political agenda. The statements you’ve made concerning this article are the gurgling sounds of rage and fury at your loss. I suggest you wipe the snot off your noses and go away, while the state attempts to correct itself…without your “help”.

By wonder why?

December 22, 2010 9:05 AM | Link to this

All one has to do is read these posts and and it becomes clear why everyone is getting the hell out of ohio!!

By The Sleeve

December 22, 2010 9:04 AM | Link to this

Apparently Joanie, you didnt read my post, or at least comprehend it. Boehner has been against earmarks period. He has rejected them for his district. That is true, but what I said was as SPEAKER, or in any high level post in which your party is in control of, you are in a position to PROTECT your area from CUTS to exhisting programs. That is why it is important to have a highranking Rep, be they Dem or Repub, representing your district. To PROTECT it. Now, if you cant understand that, you might want to visit a library, or do some independent reading. This is the problem with people who steadfastly defend a Party, instead of actually thinking for yourself.

By Joanie

December 22, 2010 8:26 AM | Link to this

@The Sleeve, if you think John Boehner will do anything for his district, you have not looked at his voting record. He only protects his millionaire and billionaire campaign contributors and his close friends, lobbyists. If you don’t know this, Sleeve, you haven’t been paying attention to what has really gone on, behind the talking points.

By Yup

December 22, 2010 5:50 AM | Link to this

FWIW, I felt it needed to be said 5 times….lol

By Yup

December 22, 2010 5:47 AM | Link to this

Take a look at americanproudofit and Karon’s posts. This is what the liberally controlled school systems have brought us. People who cant spell, or have any grammar skills.

By Philman

December 22, 2010 5:11 AM | Link to this

I wonder where all the Libs are that always blamed President Bush for the HIGH GAS prices. we are over 3.00 a gal. and not a peep. of course the DDN has seen fit to Silence the people, all of us should call them a demand we get our voice back

By karon

December 22, 2010 12:37 AM | Link to this

Ohio a liberal thinking state???? I find these comments laughable! Ohio has line it self with Haley Barbour a racist from Mississppi , Kasich good friend! Also Governor Christi of New Jersey another friend of Kasich is losing his popularity in New Jersey because he is seen as being a bully governor! Ohio is in for along 4 years! Thanks conservative voters of Ohio!

By Mike R

December 22, 2010 12:07 AM | Link to this

@Gov’t Teacher. “Republicans…gerrymandering?” You’re in the bounds to use such a term, but shouldn’t a teacher show more discretion? How about saying, “reapportionment?” Your original statement shows a bias…do your classroom lectures have a clear bias too??

By Mike R

December 21, 2010 11:43 PM | Link to this

@Americanproudofit, I appreciate your passion. Clinton also had veto power in the time you cited—which is appox. 30% of all the years you referenced. It’s a complex problem, but we’re in a global situation…The Japanese needed to get closer to the “market place” and the vast majority of their U.S. production is non-union. The U.S. gov’t doesn’t give tax breaks for overseas operations—That’s a liberal media myth—In fact the only tax “break” to overseas operations is the hosting company has lower tax rates. In the OECD the U.S. has the 2nd highest tax rate. So, most companies that invest millions, hundreds of millions, and perhaps billions, aren’t going to repatriate their money just to have it taxed.

By tallsandi

December 21, 2010 9:59 PM | Link to this

There ya go all you idiots who figured to make yourselves feel important by not giving your information to the census workers. You cost the government (your money retard) thousands every time they had to come see your stupid %ss and this is what the result is. So moron, feel proud now that you cost the state 2 seats and the government thousands. The illegals sure made sure they were counted.

By Ameicannproudofit

December 21, 2010 9:26 PM | Link to this

Hey truthhurts and the rest of you repukeblicans. Both house’s in the state of ohio have been controlled by your nit witted, narrow minded, can’t think for themselves nit wits, for the last 20 years. so that means,”The high taxes and the anti- busines liberal polices”,are your partys fault. Grow up and use the matter between your ears to examine the facts. Too much Rush, too much Fox. makes a human brain shrink. You guys are the perfect example. In fact, look who has had veto power at the federal level from 1980 thru 2008. you will find it was the repukeblicans. Also on the federal level, the largest spending increase came from your boy W himself. grow up and analyze real facts, not talk radio. The problem with this great country is repukeblicans china freindly, pro big business policy, that gives big American companies tax breaks for producing products overseas. As all the jobs and plants go over seas the tax base goes with it. Hence the taxes go up to cover maintaining roads,schools etc. But hey ! who needs good roads and schools. Whats wrong with making things here. The japanese auto industry does, and they either pay more than unions or prouduce it with union labor, (the toyota corolla, built in Kentucky). Get a life and start acting like a real American, support the middle class. Build it here, union labor, good quality, strong Tax base. In return we can build good infastructure. Use some common sense for once. Oh! and by the way, here is a challenge. when you post your hate responses, don’t use the info from your mindless talkshow hosts, look up the facts and state them in something more than a one liner.

By Government Teacher

December 21, 2010 8:05 PM | Link to this

For the record, the Governor, Secretary of State, Attorney General, and a representative from the Ohio House and Ohio Senate will sit down and redraw the lines for all districts. They will dictate what the new lines will look like and determine which districts will be consolidated. In the next election there might be two or three incumbents running in the same/new district, depending on how the districts are drawn. Democrats will definitely be on the consolidated list since the Republicans totally control the commission doing the gerrymandering.

By why

December 21, 2010 7:01 PM | Link to this

mike r: why would another state take sen. brown? He does more for other sttates by driving bus. and people out of here than he would if he rep. them. good luck with that trade. i can’t think of a state that would want him.

By Mike R

December 21, 2010 6:54 PM | Link to this

@Laura, it is all ‘bout population. So, why did you suggest Boehner to be one of two Republicans to lose their seat?? As far as Dennis Kucinich goes, I actually respect the man. He’s forthright—One of the few politicians from either party. I disagree with his philosphies, but at least he doesn’t play games and hide behind words like Senator Brown. Nor does Dennis flame Tea Party people, Independent voters, or others he has ideological differences with like Brown. I wish we could make a trade with another state…I would gladly give up Senator Brown’s to keep the two Congressional seats.

By Great in Dayton

December 21, 2010 6:10 PM | Link to this

Leave Dennis where he is we need to get rid of Kaptur and another one that might be in a purple area. Kucinich is not going to hurt any of us. We should just make it where he has Cleveland and that is it. The heck with that liberal city. There will be no Republican elected there ever as long it has the same demographics. You got to remember when we draw the lines for the new districts we have to win in those districts. Just give the dems the big city limits and then give everywhere else to us. We could give Columbus to one democrap and Cleveland the other one. We just need to make sure we elect republicans for the next 100 years. Right to Work legislation would work towards that end. That would take money out of the coffers of the dems.

By Laura

December 21, 2010 5:46 PM | Link to this

EDMUND DANTES, The election had nothing to do with the census. The number of representatives a state has is Congress is based on population not how people in the state votes.

By EDMUND DANTES

December 21, 2010 4:46 PM | Link to this

UNLIKELY LAURA…THE DEMS GOT BOOTED FOR A REASON. TO THE VICTORS COME THE SPOILS

By Laura

December 21, 2010 4:33 PM | Link to this

I would also nominate John Boehner and another Republican politician.

By ME

December 21, 2010 4:07 PM | Link to this

Dennis Kucinich, the man who bankrupted Cleveland and ended up livng in his car???

By Yahoo

December 21, 2010 3:25 PM | Link to this

Another example of that tolerant left…thanks superfly for reminding us how tolerant you, and the left are…

By Yahoo

December 21, 2010 3:23 PM | Link to this

Another example of that tolerant left…thanks superfly for reminding us how tolerant you, and the left are…

By SUPERFLY

December 21, 2010 3:19 PM | Link to this

TAKE BOEHNER AND AUSTRIA IF YOU CAN GET STEVE’S NOSE OUT OF BOEHNER’S BUTT. GOD IS ALIVE AND LIVING IN ARGENTINA.

By the tables will turn

December 21, 2010 2:31 PM | Link to this

John Boehner is a cry baby—grow up!

By null

December 21, 2010 2:29 PM | Link to this

It amazes to this moderate how so many conservatives completely ignore all the businesses that closed up shop and people who left Ohio in the few tyears before Obama took office. TheSleeve seems to know that blind partisanship has never solved anything.

By Ted

December 21, 2010 2:04 PM | Link to this

Wish all you want but Boehner is safe as safe can be. Cry if you want because two of your liberal reps will be history. Now this is Change I can Believe In.

By Big Al

December 21, 2010 1:17 PM | Link to this

I wish we could lose Democrats from Montgomery County. Maybe then we’ll have a fiscally responsible county govt that would become pro-business to grow Dayton and the suburbs.

By The Sleeve

December 21, 2010 1:12 PM | Link to this

AS President Obama continually reminded us after he was elected in November 2008, elections have consequences. It just happens to be the Democrats on the receiving end this time. North east Ohio will lose one, as well as probably eastern Columbus. @Joanie, regardless of political affilliation, you should be happy that the new speaker is from this area. Although is is against earmarks, and has rejected them for his own district, he will be in a position to make sure projects dont leave this area. Like WPAFB jobs etc. That is why it is good to have high ranking politicians in your area. Sometimes Joanie, you actually have to put your mind at work, instead of listening to talking points (from either side).

By truthhurts

December 21, 2010 1:12 PM | Link to this

People go where the jobs and opportunities are. High taxes and anti-business liberal policies are to blame in Ohio.

By tiredofit!

December 21, 2010 1:06 PM | Link to this

i wish we could lose boehner and jim jordan. the two are worthless as those titties on those boar hogs.

By Whatever

December 21, 2010 12:52 PM | Link to this

Choosing a politician is the same as choosing a dildo: find the biggest one that will hurt the least.

By The Thinker

December 21, 2010 12:47 PM | Link to this

I recommend Dennis Kucinich and Marcy Kaptur.

By Joanie

December 21, 2010 12:06 PM | Link to this

I wish we would lose John Boehner!