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Sen. Brown compares anti-union governors to Hitler, Stalin

By Jack Torry Washington Bureau

As he waded into the searing controversy of governors in Ohio and Wisconsin trying to curtail the power of public employee unions to bargain, Sen. Sherrod Brown argued that tyrants such as Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin eliminated unions.

In a speech Thursday on the Senate floor, Brown, D-Ohio, said that as he looked at “some of the worst governments that we’ve ever had, do you know one of the first things they did? They went after unions. Hitler didn’t want unions, Stalin didn’t want unions, (former Egyptian President Hosni) Mubarak didn’t want independent unions.’’

See the video here: http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/SenateSession4685/start/11742/stop/11929

Brown then added, “I’m not comparing what’s happened to the workers in Madison or in Columbus to Hitler and Stalin. But I am saying that history teaches us that unions are a very positive force in society that creates a middle class and that protects our freedom.’’

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By Dr Mike

April 11, 2011 2:54 AM | Link to this

Amen, Senator Brown - you are a HERO!! What kind of person want to close unions? Nazis do!! “We must close the union offices, confiscate their money and put their leaders in prison. … -Adolph Hitler, May 2, 1933.

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April 10, 2011 5:33 AM | Link to this

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April 10, 2011 5:33 AM | Link to this

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April 10, 2011 5:22 AM | Link to this

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By Special Ed

March 13, 2011 11:15 AM | Link to this

What an idiot. Doesn’t Sen Brown know that even FDR said public employees have no reasonable right to collective bargaining? The middle class is disappearing, but the cause isn’t a lack of unions. The cause is the taxes required for Sen Brown to repay his political contributors at the AFLCIO, and Public Employees unions.

By D.J. Young

March 11, 2011 3:22 PM | Link to this

Sen. Brown is nothing more than a protein stain in the hind-end of a pair of BVD’s.

By jimbo

March 11, 2011 12:54 AM | Link to this

It is a shame Sen. Brown, like most politicians these days, feels the need to have to temper his views. If he wants to make the comparison, he should man up and do it. Regardless if you agree or not, it does a disservice to voters to turn your opinions to obscure ramblings. Have an opinion and voice it already.

By vicki Lindsay

March 8, 2011 11:41 AM | Link to this

What Sherrod Brown said, that Hitler and Stalin persecuted unions, is an real life, actual, historical fact. IF you would care to read the rest of his remark, you would see that he was not calling our current guv a facist, but pointing out that union busting does indeed have a history of being against workers who try to get a piece of the pie, not just the crumbs.

By Gallimaufry

March 7, 2011 7:02 PM | Link to this

uh…Senor Brown needs to understand the labor movement was and is crawling with communists

By Eric H

March 7, 2011 4:48 PM | Link to this

As been said:”S.Brown is an embarrasment to Ohio”. Brown nothing more then Harry Reid’s whiny lap dog. Anyone that signs anything with out reading it is not too bright between the ears IMHO. Name calling attacks and comparing groups of concenred Americans to Nazi’s or worse is an excellent example of ones intelligence. The Dems will do anything to promote their socialist’s agenda. On the house floor spouting rhetoric that someone wrote for him. TERM LIMITS the only cure for political crimes and idiocies.

By art

March 7, 2011 8:40 AM | Link to this

His support for abortion,he should compare himself to Hitler and Stalin

By Avsec Bostjan

March 7, 2011 3:12 AM | Link to this

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By Fiscal Conservative

March 7, 2011 12:39 AM | Link to this

Everyone is missing the point - its about the money and the taxes we have to pay to meet the high government salaries. Sure going after the teachers union keeps in check the salaries of the women. But what we really need to tackle is the high salaries the government people and contractors make over there at Wright Pat. That’s how we solve the deficit

By tshiverd

March 6, 2011 5:48 PM | Link to this

I have not always a big fan of Sen Brown, but go back and read Hitler’s May 1932 speech when he outlawed the unions. It is scary how similar to what you are hearing Kasich and Wis. Gov’s say. Way to similar! Killing the Middle class will kill the country. and it’s coming.

By big bob

March 6, 2011 3:54 PM | Link to this

to s. brown and others its a laugh when the poor dems whine and complain that the rep. are trying to stop the “democratic” process only when the democrats are Voted out of power!!!!

By big bob

March 6, 2011 3:45 PM | Link to this

hey joe its amusing yhat you refer to “pro-life”people as wackos and nazies!!! what a laugh. by the way to the other morons the first thing the communists and hitler did was to take away individuals guns so the was no malitia to oppose them.

By Leslie

March 6, 2011 1:09 PM | Link to this

Joe, using the usual stupid democrat talking points. The minority issues you refer to were not fighting to take from someone else. They were fighting for equal rights. That is not what the unions are fighting for. Union members have a voice just like non-union members. Problem is the union members have more of a voice using militan tactics. Their voice is demanding to negotiate with elected officials and NOT the taxpayers. If you public employees want to keep your jobs and your benefits, then you need to back off so we can build the private sector and have enough of a workforce to support you.

By ANTI SMOKING BAN

March 6, 2011 12:18 PM | Link to this

Yes its socialist to make all pays the same. Remember this, teachers, cops etc spent money and time to get where they are and they deserve the pay they worked hard to get to. Get off your butts and improve yourselves instead of downing the people who listended to study hard and be all you can be. Why go to school if its just to be a part of the socialist community?

By Joe

March 6, 2011 12:16 PM | Link to this

Leslie with your way of thinking why dont we bring slavery back? African Americans are a minority. Why dont we continue to take rights away from Homosexuals, they are a minority. Why dont we even take away women having the right to vote?

By anti smoking ban

March 6, 2011 12:13 PM | Link to this

Kasich and the legislators are over paid public employees, lets cut their pay and benefits first and don’t forget, first tehy came for the smoker to kill small business

By Leslie

March 6, 2011 12:02 PM | Link to this

13% of Ohioans are in unions. That means that Brown thinks 87% of Ohioans are nazis. Republicans caved into 13% of the population. That is not a democracy. Do 87% of the taxpayers get to sit at the table and negotiate with these public employees to make sure they are not robbing the public sector blind. No! 87% of the state does not have representation. Why are the unions protesting at private residences in Ohio? Is that what we have come to? 13% of the population intiminating and threatening 87% of the population. Guess what the police are standing with the 13%. So don’t tell me about how there will be no one to protect you. The police are standing with the 13% that are intimidating and threatening the other 87%.

By Adam

March 6, 2011 11:42 AM | Link to this

I’m not a big fan of Unions, although they are necessary, they have just gotten to the point where they dont fully represent the worker. As far as GOP Governors go, if they are to be compared to Hitler lets talk about the family value garbage, lets talk about the pro life whackos, lets talk about the gay haters. Those are the Hitler types.

By Adam

March 6, 2011 11:16 AM | Link to this

The only reason I voted for this loser is because I was sick of that whimp Dewine. We got Voinovich out, and replaced him with a great guy in Rob Portman, now we need to get Brown out.

By Paul

March 6, 2011 12:08 AM | Link to this

Sherrod Brown is an EMBARRASSMENT to Ohio.

By Go Sherrod

March 5, 2011 8:44 PM | Link to this

@aim: what exactly is “civil” about taking away someone else’s representation and especially targeting public servants, including emergency workers and teachers? You would rather take “aim” at an unarmed target, I am sure. However, the R’s have talked you into shooting your own foot, you just don’t realize it yet. Yes, Ohio has a budget crunch, but busting the public unions of reasonably paid, educated and experienced professionals is ridiculous and not in anyone’s best interests. If you can still vote Republican after what has happened in the last ten years, you are not being honest, you’re just being a jerk. And Kasich is a case in point. But you go ahead, take “aim”.

By aim

March 5, 2011 7:25 PM | Link to this

What happen to “civility” that the demos & the worse prez ever of the USA preached after the congresswoman was shot?

By Go Sherrod

March 5, 2011 1:27 PM | Link to this

Kasich did not win the Ohio public pension accounts, but he sure tried. He did walk away from the Lehman Bros/Wall Street fiasco with over half of a million dollars in salary and bonus $. Wow. Talk about pay not linked to a failing organization. To be fair, he was honest that he wanted to “break the backs” of the Ohio unions, and especially the teachers’ union, as they did not endorse him in the election. He also thinks he is above the law and shouldn’t get traffic tickets, and that he really thinks police officers are idiots. Hey Repubs — you put another a**hole in office. Keep calling it like you see it, Sherrod.

By ol'briar

March 4, 2011 7:30 PM | Link to this

Your Nazi comments only work to make sure you are a one term politician. I promise to becme actively involved to inure you are not reelected!

By Mike R

March 4, 2011 5:40 PM | Link to this

So, sherred issued a tepid “apology” today. He doesn’t have the testicals to come out and do it on the Senate Floor, video, or any face-to-face meeting. Nope, little sherrod had his press office release his “apology.” If he were truly sorry he would have the balls to do it himself and not hide behind his kiddie press aide.

By sgthvac

March 4, 2011 5:08 PM | Link to this

I borrowed these comments from someone else for the record. “Senator Sherrod Brown is not a Nazi. But he has a history of voting for policies the Nazis championed. But he is not a Nazi. Nor is he Nazi like. However, in Mien Kampf, Hitler himself wrote: As things stand today, the trade unions in my opinion cannot be dispensed with. On the contrary, they are among the most important institutions of the nation’s economic life. Their significance lies not only in the social and political field, but even more in the general field of national politics. A people whose broad masses, through a sound trade-union movement, obtain the satisfaction of their living requirements and at the same time an education, will be tremendously strengthened in its power of resistance in the struggle for existence. Above all, the trade unions are necessary as foundation stones of the future economic parliament or chambers of estates”. The lefties say this because Hitler dissolved the Weimar Republic’s unions and consolidated them into the German equivalent of the AFL-CIO, basing the unions on socialist equality principles. Yes, he dissolved the unions. But he only did so because they weren’t “union enough”. This might shock Sherrod Brown, who shows no signs of being familiar at all with history, that the Nazis also supported universal healthcare, expanded animal welfare laws, support of healthy, organic foods and vegetarianism, a minimum wage, progressive taxation, and tight gun control — policies Sherrod Brown supports too. Sherrod Brown is no more a Nazi than Jim DeMint or Scott Walker. But he is pretty ignorant of history.

By Hank

March 4, 2011 4:51 PM | Link to this

Short answer to describe Brown - “moronic”.

By Jeanie

March 4, 2011 2:03 PM | Link to this

Uh Dale…Hitler killed anyone he thought to be homosexual. The President smokes. He has never stated he is pro-abortion. He may be “pro womens rights”… Try again…

By Navin Johnson

March 4, 2011 1:49 PM | Link to this

Sherry was doing an act for his base. After all, all of this happened on his watch. Kasick is doing exactly what he said when he was running. Where was Brown? Did he sound any alarms? When its all said and done, his little tirade accomplished nothing at all. It was a planned stunt with the intended purpose just to cover his butt.

By Steve

March 4, 2011 1:24 PM | Link to this

What an absurd comment. Individuals in Hitler’s Germany or Stalin’s Russia did not have the opportunity to express their opinion as Sen. Brown did yesterday … they were simply executed. His remarks do nothing to advance the debate on this issue.

By NyukNyukJohn

March 4, 2011 1:03 PM | Link to this

Eventually all discussions devolve into Repubs against Dems. I look at the two parties as I would a coin. I flip a coin and it will be either heads or tails (read it as Repubs or Dems). The truth is that it is the SAME coin. I think it is sad that people use the argument that…It is the (Dems or Repubs) fault. As long as people identify with a polical party instead of discussing the “merits” of what is on the table, then things will never get better in this country. I am an American first. I think and vote independently. It is people who serve that make a great country and not blind allegience to any political party.

By tvwohio

March 4, 2011 12:58 PM | Link to this

Brown went to Ivy League school and doesn’t know or wasn’t taught that both Stalin and Hitler were Socialist. Obama and Brown are more attune to Hitler and Stalin than Kaisch. But again, they had Ivy League Education and do not understand, nor were they taught that Communism and National Socialist Party (NAZI) mimic more the Democrats - Social Medicine, Death committees to decide if your health is worth saving, Union thugs causing chaos (Brown shirts in Germany in 1930’s. Calling others names and putting out non-existant grudges (Goebels) The more I write this the more I think Brown name and the Brown Shirts maybe relatives. Heil Liberal Democrats.

By LT Morgan

March 4, 2011 12:43 PM | Link to this

Here lies the problem,public sector employees are not overpaid,,,,they dont have these huge pensions everyone keeps claiming…Heres the facts… We negotiate to keep everyone safe…We negotiate to keep people employed…What makes everyone believe that we dont know what the budgets are for our communities? we work to develope these budgets…Manage these budgets and gets the best bang for the buck for the citizens that pay these taxes.. Oh and nots not forget that Ohio taxes the homeowners, why not tax everyone so that it is a more evan playing field. Why does the renter get all the benefits? They have a vote,but no skin in the game as Sen. Jones states.

By ohiodale

March 4, 2011 12:35 PM | Link to this

Brown is dead wrong and this argument makes no sense. Just because a person don’t support unions does not make him a soiclaist dictator. Regan didn’t like unions and he was all about freedom. Brown and the liberals use arguments like this because there are so many stupid people (Chazz) who believe what they want to beleive. Now that Brown said this I am even more against the unions. I am pro american and 100% for freedom and I am for this bill. Its funny how the liberals praise dictators all over the world (Catro, Chavez)but use dictators in arguments agaisnt the GOP. Also what about the rights of the tax payers. We are the ones paying the salaries of state workers.

By Problem Solved

March 4, 2011 12:30 PM | Link to this

Paul and TRS-Well said; you are dead on with your comments. Your comments are 100% correct and nicely explained. Thank-you!

By Paul

March 4, 2011 12:15 PM | Link to this

Private sector unions: Corporations pay the bill. Public sector unions: Taxpayers pay the bill Taxpayers need to realize its NOT in their best interest for public employee unions to have collective bargaining…no one is looking out for the taxpayer.

By TRS

March 4, 2011 11:51 AM | Link to this

@Opinion - What you don’t seem to get is the collective bargaining process with public employees is corrupt. The two parties involved in the process both have the same interests. Was OEA or other educational sectors willing to work with the state RE merit pay? Not at all. I recently heard the former school head of the NYC schools being asked what one thing stuck in his mind about his tenure? The answer - the tremendous resistence to change by the public sector unions? Why - because they know the cards are stacked in their favor. As a taxpayer, I want the party representing me in the negotiation to be fervent in protecting my tax dollar. When pro union politicians are in charge, that is not the case, ie who would ever trust Sherrod Brown in a contract negotiation? The reason unions do not want to see the law changed is because they believe all they need do is bid their time and a politician favorable to them can be elected and they can get back all they claim to concede. A change in the law changes the game. The current game is leaving children poorly educated and the state broke. We need a game changer. Good Gov Kasich!

By Problem Solved

March 4, 2011 11:39 AM | Link to this

I can’t keep responding to this. I don’t have Chazz and his union here to represent me if I am caught discussing politics on company time and on their computer while I am getting paid to do a job.

By Paul

March 4, 2011 11:33 AM | Link to this

Most middle-class taxpayers are NOT unionized. So why would anyone think its ok for public employee unions to wheel & deal with the very politicians-who-want-their-vote? The taxpayer literally pays the consequence.. but the taxpayer is Not at the bargaining table! This is not a democrat or republican issue, its a Taxpayer issue. I believe many taxpayers don’t understand the difference between public employee unions— and private sector unions. With public employee unions, our taxdollars are at stake, but taxpayers don’t have a seat at the bargaining table. Even Bill Gates, who’s a liberal, agrees that the pension/benefit packages for public employees is a disaster-waiting-to-happen for States and taxpayers.

By Compare This

March 4, 2011 11:20 AM | Link to this

I compare Sherrod Brown to Huey P. Long-LA. Crooked as they come.

By kinnynobo

March 4, 2011 11:11 AM | Link to this

Again, leftists use the same ‘sad’ comparisons to voice their opininos. You’re becoming a bad joke. Time for Brown to retire.

By An opinion

March 4, 2011 10:59 AM | Link to this

The collective bargaining issue has more to do with dismantling the right of the people to choose to negotiate as a collective for a fair contract than it does in saving $$$ on the state budget. The public service workers were willing to work with the state, but Mr. Kasich and our state representatives have no interest in working with the people to find common ground. It seems that it is ok to keep a hands off approach when dealing with corporate America and put the burden of bringing the country back on track 100% on the backs of the people. America as a whole has to unite to get back on our feet. Our businesses have an obligation to the “bottom line” but must also have some civic responsibility not to abandon workers in America, union or non-union, in favor of 3rd world labor forces we can NEVER be able to compete with. The civic responsibilty will have costs involved in it. We can’t buy their products if we don’t have a wage that allows us to. In the end, dismantling workers rights only serve to expand the divide between the middle and upper class. If you think the HB5 issue and similar plans in other states are only targeting public service, think again.

By Tom F.

March 4, 2011 10:56 AM | Link to this

Hitler and Stalin were both responsible for the murder of millions of people. To compare the civil debate over union powers in Ohio and Wisconsin even obliquely to Hitler and Stalin just shows what a complete a*s Sherrod Brown really is.

By Acta Non Verba

March 4, 2011 10:55 AM | Link to this

If you make less than 200,000 a year, the man is coming for you next! The Republicans have brilliantly orchastrated an “inner-class” war that allows the focus of their real objective to go virtually unnoticed. Instigate the middle class into beating each other up so that the “rich” continue to get richer without sacrificing anything more than the minimum.

By tired of it.

March 4, 2011 10:32 AM | Link to this

i can tell you this much. i didnt vote for john kasich for gov. and will never vote for a republican unless you can show me a republican who will vote the working mans way. this sb5 bill is not only an assault on working people but an insult.the states budget problems are not these state workers fault.period

By Problem Solved

March 4, 2011 10:13 AM | Link to this

Chazz-In most cases private corporations at not totally funded by our tax dollars; that is the main difference between them and a Public Employee Unions. If the Democratic politicians were not able to keep giving the farm away to your union members; who do you think they would vote for? It sure wouldn’t be a nut like Brown who has been owned by the unions from the very start of his political career.

By Paul

March 4, 2011 9:26 AM | Link to this

We always thought Brown was a TOTAL FLAKE, now we have proof! Typical childish Democrat… start the name-calling and tantrums when things don’t go your way! So, Brown doesn’t care about the TAXPAYERS in Ohio, does he? He doesn’t care that the people who Pay for all these ridiculous benefits and pensions for public employees, the TAXPAYERS — have NO SAY when unions bargain. Brown Doesn’t Care about the Taxpayers. Vote Sherrod Out of Office, ALL HE CARES ABOUT ARE THE UNIONS. Sherrod does not care about Ohio or the Taxpayers.

By Chazz

March 4, 2011 9:25 AM | Link to this

To Problem Solved- So its Ok for corporations to be involved in politics , but not the everyday working man or women? Unions do not tell their members how to vote, they put the candidates platforms side by side and let their members decide who they vote for.

By Chazz

March 4, 2011 9:20 AM | Link to this

In regards to the comment by JohnF that in Dayton you are foreced to join the Union. - This is a bold face lie- You are not forced to join a Union or even pay your fair share for representation. I have devoted hours and hours on hearings for non-members, non dues paying workers who find themselves in trouble and are about to lose their job. I reprent them and most of the time they get to keep their job, but they do not pay dues or join the union - they are free loaders

By Problem Solved

March 4, 2011 9:16 AM | Link to this

Make it illegal for Public Employee Unions to financially support any politician and the problem is solved. If this happens;the politicians will loose their financial incentives to support these Unions and then without their pockets being lined with cash they can do what is right and work towards balancing the budgets. The way it is now with the Unions supporting their Democratic puppets is like hiring the Wolves to watch the Hen Houses and using our tax dollars to do it.

By Chazz

March 4, 2011 9:12 AM | Link to this

Great job Senator Brown, you are spot on, and you made it clear you were not comparing KKKasich to any of these people, you were just talking about history, Keep up the good work, I will vote for you to be re-elected

By null

March 4, 2011 9:09 AM | Link to this

@JohnF. Look up some info about the mandatory union membership for public employees. It’s right here in Dayton. It is required for certain public employee positions that you pay dues, and even if you don’t want to be, you are a union member.

By JS

March 4, 2011 9:00 AM | Link to this

Ever wonder why anything can’t get done? We’re all too busy screaming horrific insults, such as Brown did here, to think clearly on the issue and work on a solution. We’ve allowed ourselves to become an adversarial society. We run on conflict. Opposition, not cooperation, is our M.O. The media feeds this beast, and we don’t break the cycle ourselves. We keep feeding that beast. Look at this thread for example. It’s all about demonizing the unions, Dems, or the GOP, or Brown himself. I condemn what he said, certainly. Not the man.

By Perspective

March 4, 2011 8:53 AM | Link to this

@Beth I think your ending statement says it all. If I were to exercise my 1st amendment rights in the crowd at the statehouse I would be attacked because my opinion was different.”You would be run off the grounds. Count on it.” The hate and violence from the left if you disagree with them is unbelievable.

By Jack Roach

March 4, 2011 8:02 AM | Link to this

Hitler killed 11 million. Stalin killed 30 million. Pro-Life Governors have killed zero. Pro-Choice Governors have killed 50 million in America. Deception continues.

By JohnF

March 4, 2011 7:52 AM | Link to this

Repubs are a riot. They scream about free enterprise, then get upset when people have a democratic vote to form a union. They like to spread the myth that people are forced to join a union. I have yet to see that in any contract that I have been offered where there is a union presence. It’s not written into state law that you have to join a union as a condition of employment. Since Repubs have controlled virtually all state offices pretty much uninterrupted since 1996, that means they have negotiated the state contracts. Now they want a ” do-over”. Funny you maggots don’t seem to be asking your communist (all repubs are commies, why else do they ship all jobs to China?) leaders to cut THEIR salaries…repubs- best described as the “Do as I say, not as I do” crowd.

By Beth

March 4, 2011 7:51 AM | Link to this

You go Senator Brown! Yes, Hitler did get rid of unions first. Still, this is America and Ka-sick has to run again for a second term. He has only been in office for two months and look at all the damage he has done. Gone is the possibility of high speed rail in Ohio. His approval rating is dismal. Ka-sick is attacking the very people who voted for him-the middle class. He is also hurting the poor. SB5 targets the pay, the benefits (health, sick and personal leave) and the bargaining rights of working Americans. Ever attend one of the rally’s at the State House? There you will see teachers, fireman, policemen, nurses, penal workers, teamsters, snow plow workers, electricians, plumbers, family members (including children) of union workers, republicans now becoming democrats, libertarians becoming democrats, or just republicans or libertarians protesting the bill—all united in cause because their very lively hood is being attacked. These people are your friends and neighbors. Does Ka-sick think he is a dictator? He is acting like one. His policies are hurting Ohioans. This state will be in such a dismal mess by the by the time his term ends. He will be a one term governor, if he is not impeached before then. To those of you who don’t like Senator Brown, I dare you to attend one of the rally’s at the State House and say what you are saying in this blog to all those people whose jobs are in jeopardy. You would be run off the grounds. Count on it.

By jon/ne

March 4, 2011 7:23 AM | Link to this

This is a simple comment that even Demon brown can understand, His Union’s would have been the FIRST To back Hitler and Stalin and turn against the general population just like their doing Right now. SEGHEIL DEMON BROWN

By jon/ne

March 4, 2011 7:20 AM | Link to this

This is a simple comment that even Demon brown can understand, His Union’s would have been the FIRST To back Hitler and Stalin and turn against the general population just like their doing Right now. SEGHEIL DEMON BROWN

By jon/ne

March 4, 2011 7:16 AM | Link to this

This is a simple comment that even Demon brown can understand, His Union’s would have been the FIRST To back Hitler and Stalin and turn against the general population just like their doing Right now. SEGHEIL DEMON BROWN

By Thelma Slade

March 4, 2011 6:53 AM | Link to this

I see Senator Brown as a bird with one wing flying in circles. He has some nerve relating those who are concerned about union abusiveness to Hitler! The unions do have a history of corruption and I believe there may be some in between the union with GM and the President.

By Navin Johnson

March 4, 2011 6:32 AM | Link to this

Brown was just once again pandering to the ignorant and stupid. Typical left wing rant to get the base to shake their fist and yell, “yeah right, way to go go Sherry-boy”, when they actually have nothing constructive to say.

By Philman

March 4, 2011 5:50 AM | Link to this

Go sherrod You are ALL MESSED UP, First you accuse Republicans of harming the democratic process, Excuse Me but it was the UNIONS That tried to TRample on the peoples right to vote by taking away the secret balot , they wanted everyone to vote openly so the union thugs knew whos house to visit in the middle of the night, and you wondered about the War debt, I SEEM TO REMEMBER IT WAS OBAMA THAT RAN ON THE PROMISE TO END THIS WAR, HOWS THAT GOING?HE WAS GOING TO CLOSE GITMO ALSO HMMMM. I WISH SOME UP AND COMING REPORTER WOULD GIVE US A SCORECARD OF OBAMA’S CAMPAIGN PROMISES.

By JJ

March 4, 2011 4:04 AM | Link to this

There is one difference between Kasich and Hitler: Kasich will be voted out of office in 4 years.

By TRS

March 4, 2011 1:04 AM | Link to this

Ever notice union supporters pretty much have to go back to the 1940s and 1950s to say anything good about them. The fact that they have either destroyed, driven away or hindered progress of virtually everything they’ve touched should be evidence enough to their attitudes. Currently we are locked into an educational system which favors the adults over the students. Unions take dues and contribute them almost exclusive to Dems in hopes they will get elected and be sitting across the negotiation table from them. How could anyone believe this is a proper negotiation when both the Dems and unions are in bed with each other? Ultimately the person getting shafted in this situation has been the taxpayer…but then, thats nothing new for someone like Sherrod Brown. If there is anybody who should be defeated in 2012 for Senate it is he. I thought Metzenbaum was bad but this guy really takes the cake.

By Go Sherrod

March 3, 2011 11:43 PM | Link to this

Wait a minute, Mike. WHO is going to make salaried GM workers whole? I am not gloating, by the way. Are we or are we not talking about the state of Ohio making teachers less than whole? Isn’t that really why you want the unions busted? Besides gloating about a blow struck against the Dems, any Dems. Wall Street bailouts for the wealthy crooks are a-okay, however.

By Josie24

March 3, 2011 11:35 PM | Link to this

As Americans witness the most reckless spending in history, trillions of dollars in debt, and job-killing policies by Obama and the Dems……Brown is ranked the most left leaning liberal in the Senate. Well, he is tied with the admitted socialist Sanders of UT. He knows his chances for re-election are minimal..He believes he can gin up support from the extreme left by using these outrageous, inflammatory comparisons. Ohioians will vote him out of office in 2012 and he can join his buddy Strickland.

By Mike R

March 3, 2011 10:30 PM | Link to this

Dennis, hang on to that thought—The one about “come November.” Yeah, hang on to that for awhile. Do you remember, just 4 months ago we voted? None of the Assembly or Senate seats are up for re-election this year. It is the fall of 2012 where all 99 seats of the Assemby are scheduled for election, and less than half (16) of the Senate seats. You might want to start taking B-Vitamins, Omega-3, Antioxidants, and even ginseng—They’re all good for improved memory. Just write it down. November, 2012, not this year.

By L Berry

March 3, 2011 10:18 PM | Link to this

Senator Brown you owe all GOP Governor’s an apology. You called for civility when dealing with issues, then you do what all Liberal Democratic liars do. Call names, fight, threaten, demand. Thats what you teach your Union Leaders and you follow suit. You can’t spell bi-partiasnship. You want it your way or no way. Hitler was behind the Holicast which slatered over 6 million Jews. So when you liken GOP Governor’s, who are doing the peoples hard work, to Hitler just what do you mean?. Voters in Nov elected GOP candidates because you and the rest of your Liberal pals do nothing but spend spend spend. So wake up pal, your time is coming. 2012 and you will be looking for your welfare checks.

By Cuz

March 3, 2011 9:49 PM | Link to this

Wasn’t it Sen Brown’s party leadership that called for civility? I understand his disagreement with what is happening but I wish he would set a higher standard of conduct in expressing his dissatisfaction.

By Dennis

March 3, 2011 9:42 PM | Link to this

We need more patriots in the U.S. senate and in the Ohio senate. We are headed down a path that will end in people over throwing the republicans and turn this country back to the people and the party that supports the middle class, and that would be the Democrats. Just remember come November SB5 will be repealed and instead of getting some of the stuff in the bill they will get NOTHING. It will be an in your face moment.

By Mike R

March 3, 2011 9:40 PM | Link to this

Ah, go sherrod, either you’re logic is terribly flawed or you haven’t been following the news. Last summer Sherrod Brown was one of many Senators to ask for an investigation why GM salaried workers were given pennies on the dollar while union pensions remained intact. There have been two initial reports—both show potential favortism and illegal activities. So, don’t gloat. I’m guessing the Gov’t will make salaried workers nearly whole and don’t be surprised if the PBGC takes over the union pension liabilities within two years. GM needs to make a payment of nearly $13 BILLION next year to keep pensions afloat…That ain’t gona happen. So, by 2015 retired salaried workers might be collecting bigger retirement checks than union folk. When that happens come back on here and tell us how it is…

By jacj

March 3, 2011 9:20 PM | Link to this

Dear Mr. Brown….Your opinion does not matter what you think does not matter your not relative…this will be the last office you will hold..

By willBill

March 3, 2011 9:16 PM | Link to this

Will some enlightened republican please tell me why Kasich boys can’t wait to put B5 into law when this is the same Gov that gave huge increases to his new cabinet members.In fact do the research and you will be surprised.But for those who love the repub propaganda you will love the numbers .

By mrs. m

March 3, 2011 9:02 PM | Link to this

Hitler supported universal healthcare. Hitler had the Volkswagen invented - “the people’s car” - an affordable form of transportation. Sounds like the Democrats to me. Sen. Sherrod, you said you “are not comparing” - then what the heck ARE you doing? You’re fired in the next election!

By JohnF

March 3, 2011 9:00 PM | Link to this

Spot on commentary by the Senator. I however WILL state that I haven’t met a Republican yet who hasn’t convinced me that they actually care about America. Republicans are Americans, yes that’s true. Are they patriots? No. Cowards? Absolutely.

By parental

March 3, 2011 8:51 PM | Link to this

Brown is THE MOST liberal Senator. Apparently, one of the dumbest too. All he has is comparisons to Hitler? He is an inarticulate dope. One term inarticulate dope.

By An educator

March 3, 2011 8:35 PM | Link to this

The best coverage is Bishoff’s coverage this morning. There you find objective reporting of both merits and defects. Yes, there will be favoritism, nepotism, arbitrary dismissals, lawsuits and very little attention given at some times to performance factors. Thus, the most glaring weakness is that there is no built in accountability guidelines for administrators and management. Is the measure itself a statement of Kasich’s lack of ethics and higher values? What are you thoughts ? I have shared mine.

By An educator

March 3, 2011 8:33 PM | Link to this

The best coverage is Bishoff’s coverage this morning. There you find objective reporting of both merits and defects. Yes, there will be favoritism, nepotism, arbitrary dismissals, lawsuits and very little attention given at some times to performance factors. Thus, the most glaring weakness is that there is no built in accountability guidelines for administrators and management. Is the measure itself a statement of Kasich’s lack of ethics and higher values? What are you thoughts ? I have shared mine.

By Go Sherrod

March 3, 2011 8:23 PM | Link to this

The Repubs are engaging in a concerted effort to shut down the democratic process — if that’s not totalitarian, what is? And don’t talk to me about healthcare reform, you are free to continue with your current over-priced and under-covered plan. You can see the difference a union makes when you consider that union members received more of their pension from GM than their salaried counterparts, who apparently did not have a contract with GM. Your taxes will never be lower than they are now, but your income and benefits can sure be lower, and they will be before the smoke clears from this mess. So just keep stealing from yourselves and future generations. You are so much smarter than the rest of us. How’s that war debt working out for you? Seeing a lot of those benjamins circulating in the local economy? Didn’t think so.

By An educator

March 3, 2011 8:23 PM | Link to this

The most balanced coverage came today in the DDN by Laura Bishoff. I urge everyone to read it. This article speaks of the strengths of this legislation but urges a careful look at its weaknesses. I urge you to read and comment and use it as a basis to give your vieww to your Senator and Representative and administration.

By An educator

March 3, 2011 8:23 PM | Link to this

The most balanced coverage came today in the DDN by Laura Bishoff. I urge everyone to read it. This article speaks of the strengths of this legislation but urges a careful look at its weaknesses. I urge you to read and comment and use it as a basis to give your vieww to your Senator and Representative and administration.

By An educator

March 3, 2011 8:23 PM | Link to this

The most balanced coverage came today in the DDN by Laura Bishoff. I urge everyone to read it. This article speaks of the strengths of this legislation but urges a careful look at its weaknesses. I urge you to read and comment and use it as a basis to give your vieww to your Senator and Representative and administration.

By Mike R

March 3, 2011 8:11 PM | Link to this

earl, Sherrod appears very confused. He’s obviously trying to rally a dwindling base. It won’t work. You’re correct how he would have to classify FDR. In addition, one of the 25 points of the NAZI platform was for universal health care. So, should the public be wary of all the Dems who wanted national health care?

By earl

March 3, 2011 7:53 PM | Link to this

So Sherrod must think that Franklin Delano Roosevelt is like Hitler and Stalin because he opposed public sector unions.

By william

March 3, 2011 7:50 PM | Link to this

Brown should be in hiding with the rest of his cronies, loser

By S. Brown

March 3, 2011 7:47 PM | Link to this

Know what type of people some of our worst world leaders were like? Hitler loved his dog, Blondi, very much. He also was a vegetarian. Stalin was a huge cinema buff, especially Tarzan movies. I’m not comparing all dog lovers, vegetarians, and movie goers to Hitler or Stalin, I’m just saying history teaches us lessons that can be used very powerfully. Draw your own conclusions.

By Philman

March 3, 2011 7:45 PM | Link to this

That is funny Senator, You tax and spend Democrats remind me of Marxisim. you know the ( From each according to their ability. To each according to their need)how did that workout for him..YOU END UP WITH TWO LAZY GROUPS, ONE THAT NEVER DID WANT TO EXERT ANY ENERGY TO MAKE SOMETHING OF THEMSELVES, AND THE FORMER HARD WORKING GROUP ( BECAUSE THEY HAD THE DRIVE TO BE ALL THEY COULD BE AND MAKE ALOT OF MONEY) NOW THEY THROW UP THEIR ARMS IN DISGUST AND LOSE THEIR DRIVE AND ENTHUSISIM..

By jimmie

March 3, 2011 7:29 PM | Link to this

Can anyone read what Brown said and not believe he must be retired from the Senate immediately? He is an embarrassment to the State of Ohio.

By buckeyefan

March 3, 2011 7:02 PM | Link to this

Thanks for being honest Mr. Brown.

By Richard

March 3, 2011 6:56 PM | Link to this

From history, about the Nazis and Hitler: Pastor Martin Niemöller: “First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. “Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist. “Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. “Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me Draw your own conclusions.

By Problem with this...?

March 3, 2011 6:52 PM | Link to this

What you’ve seen/heard and are reacting to by Comrade Brown is a simple ploy used by losers of an argument. The point they make (excessive union pay/perks/benefits/lifelong employment and retirement money) can’t be justified anymore…they/he knows it…so he obfuscates the points of the debate by introducing the “ringer/buzzword”, which immediately removes the point of debate to a name calling session. Classic. Most see through it, as you socialists are finding out…and as this happens I’m sure you’ll fine tune your propaganda machine to cue everyone when violence breaks out. It will be done by the left, but blamed on the right…you have your captured “in service propaganda media” to provide the “truth”….. George Orwell is proud!!…so is Alinsky and Pevin, comrades!

By Mike R

March 3, 2011 6:44 PM | Link to this

@xxx. I know history quite well, thank you. That’s why you and people like Judi and willbill should be appalled at such comparisons. By the way, you should take a grammar lesson. It is “their citizens.” Not “there citizens.”

By willBill

March 3, 2011 6:43 PM | Link to this

What its all about people is freedom.The freedom to join a union or not to join a union.That means the choice should be there.This governor and other republicans want to take that away.So whats next? What other freedoms will they want to take.Think about it.

By Ghost of Lennon

March 3, 2011 6:38 PM | Link to this

But the fool on the hill, Sees the sun going down. And the ears that can hear, Know its just Sherrod Brown.

By xxx

March 3, 2011 6:35 PM | Link to this

Mike R, You should go study some history…They also disarmed there citizens. Possible, repubs are forcing a 2nd recession to rid Obama. To bad it will be on the backs of the working & poor.Great country! Oh yea,Dont give me the Bull$%%^ leave then, at this point I would if I could

By anwar

March 3, 2011 6:34 PM | Link to this

judy judy judy

By Mike R

March 3, 2011 6:34 PM | Link to this

What are you talking about, Judi? Are you saying that Sherrod Brown compares the governors of Ohio and Wisconsin to mass murders all the time?? You don’t find that offensive?? Most sensible people would. And, if he makes those comparisons all the time why isn’t the DDN reporting upon it? @willbill, I watched the video, he compared the Governor to Hitler and Stalin. Fact.

By willBill

March 3, 2011 6:33 PM | Link to this

The state senator who was kicked off the committee for disagreeing on SB5 might have a lot more to say before it’s over,that is unless the statehouse Repubs don’t take him away to a dungeon somewhere.

By earl

March 3, 2011 6:28 PM | Link to this

Sherrod Brown does a very good impersonation of Joe Biden.

By willBill

March 3, 2011 6:24 PM | Link to this

Really? I’ve never read anything about Hitler liking homosexuals,in fact it was just the opposite they were considered part of society that Hitler condemned.I think Kasich is moving toward a dictatorship

By judi

March 3, 2011 6:18 PM | Link to this

MIKER: Where have you been??? FOX news spits this garbage out all the time. Oh, I get it. If it’s against a Dem or liberal, it’s ok. Typical RW hypocrite!

By willBill

March 3, 2011 6:14 PM | Link to this

Actually if you retards really read what he said it was part of history that one of the first things Hitler and Stalin did was to get rid of unions.

By Martin

March 3, 2011 6:11 PM | Link to this

It didn’t take long. Less than two months ago sherry was on the floor lecturing Republicans about toning down the rhetoric. Sherry proved to Ohio voters what we knew all along. He’s a hypocrite.

By Dale

March 3, 2011 6:01 PM | Link to this

Then he would say Obama would be a lot more like hitler for for being pro-abortion, being socialist, promoting homosexuals, have government running private businesses, being anti-smoking and pro auto industry.

By Dale

March 3, 2011 6:01 PM | Link to this

Then he would say Obama would be a lot more like hitler for for being pro-abortion, being socialist, promoting homosexuals, have government running private businesses, being anti-smoking and pro auto industry.

By Dale

March 3, 2011 6:01 PM | Link to this

Then he would say Obama would be a lot more like hitler for for being pro-abortion, being socialist, promoting homosexuals, have government running private businesses, being anti-smoking and pro auto industry.

By Mike R

March 3, 2011 5:57 PM | Link to this

ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING AND DESPICABLE!! I find it completely APPALLING for the names of Hitler or Stalin to be interjected into this political debate! History taught us that both those tyrants either cooked Jews in gas ovens, put bullets in the side of their temples, or starved 20,000,000 to death—each. Is that what Brown is Implying? Sure sounds like it. Well, then Martin Gottlieb, you better pack your bags and head for Kentucky! As a Jew you should be scared to death, ‘cause if Kasich is capable of doing what Sherrod Brown implies, you don’t have much time!

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