By mikerosss

May 3, 2011 3:44 PM | Link to this

My partner and I really enjoyed reading this blog post, I was just itching to know do you trade featured posts? I am always trying to find someone to make trades with and merely thought I would ask.

By wayne

April 26, 2011 7:33 PM | Link to this

I have had mixed feelings on SB5. I am still not sure how I will go when it comes to a vote. But it seems like it is the exact same thing as the health care bill/law. Good points and bad but cobbled together quickly while they had a majority vote. As a result there will be unintended consequences. Reps say you cant trust big govt. on health but you can trust big govt. to determine your salary and benefits. Incompetent teachers? Who hires them? If a team isn’t performing you fire the coach not the players. If a teacher isn’t performing and needs to be fired, why isn’t the principal and supt. held accountable. A tenured teacher may be fired for cause. All it takes is a principal to get out of his office and do a proper evaluation. Pay based on performance. Is it fair to judge a teacher with college prep students the same as a teacher with students who do not wish to be in school, never study and are simply wasting time. Yes there are a lot of things that need changing and restructuring. But teachers generally get less pay than their counterparts in the private sector. You get well qualified people who are willing to work for less because they look to a time when they do get a good retirement benefit. This bill should be reworked to prevent it from causing unintended consequences. When many good teachers quit, it will cost much more to get good people when they start to think that they will have to work for less and have less when they do retire.

By keithfromxenia

April 21, 2011 9:49 AM | Link to this

public employees should not be bargaining with politicians who want their votes. nor should an unelected, unaccountable arbitrator be able to make decisions that force citizens to pay more taxes.

By Navin Johnson

April 21, 2011 9:42 AM | Link to this

Monster, You should be embarrassed, and I am not being sarcastic. I’m growing very tired of hearing teachers whine about the sacrifices they make, and upset by what you feel is a lack of respect for your profession. Until a teacher like you actually takes responsibility for the real long term results of your policies and efforts, you just might be on the road to recover your lost respect. You have done it to yourselves by embracing and following the democratic and union machine without question. You complain about students and parents, but take no responsibility for the system you allowed and took and active part in creating. You are the ones who feel you have the responsibility to feed kids, teach them your version of sexual behavior (bypassing the parents), teaching your liberal political beliefs. Potential police officers in this city can’t pass a basic civil service test. I deal with young people daily, and its appalling how illiterate a good percentage of area of high school graduates actually are. You state that you have been in a position of authority, how did you address student problems? Zero tolerance policies? Is that about the students or about covering your butt? Is that what we get from an administrator with a masters degree? Are today’s kids so difficult to handle, that you have to put them all on Ritalin? Again is that how adminstrators with Masters degrees handle problem students? How many reported sexual instances occur in this state by teachers? Yes Monster, you have a reason to be embarrassed. Watching the behavior of teachers in Wis. and Columbus and the ones who post on these blogs, I have lost respect for you. The policies you helped create and embraced have a direct effect on your results. I’ve yet to see a teacher whose doesn’t cry about the predictament they now find themselves. I will never ever vote for another levy (always did in the past), I will be a active vocal opponent.

By monster

April 21, 2011 8:58 AM | Link to this

Terra Firma: I thought I was a teacher, not a pole dancer. Funny, I don’t remember gyrating,etc… Must not have been very memorable!

By monster

April 21, 2011 8:46 AM | Link to this

I have taught 33 years. I feel good and noble about what I do. I am not getting rich. Others with my education (2masters)didn’t start out at 8300 a yr. I pay union dues and have been the president. We didn’t rob anyone and I did not get rich as president. We pay 15% med, didn’t take raises, negotiated in a positive way with administration. I guess this was the WRONG thing to do? Sorry we EDUCATORS have damaged your children and our economy so badly. (I hope you hear the sarcasm). P.S. I WAS a republican; now I am just embarrassed.

By Perspective

April 20, 2011 9:55 AM | Link to this

Wonder if they’ll still keep whining when the people’s votes pass SB5 ? The left is all about democracy unless the people vote against them,then it’s a bad thing.

By Alleycat

April 20, 2011 3:43 AM | Link to this

It is a lose lose for unions.Whether it passes or fails, the unions will lose…. Thank God.

By To Quentin

April 20, 2011 3:37 AM | Link to this

You make a good point, Partisan politics is all these libs can embrace.They have lost their abilities to analyze based on substance, although they may have never had any ability.

By To Paul

April 20, 2011 3:31 AM | Link to this

Do not worry. They cannot undo what Kasich is doing.The unions only lose bigger if the referendum passes.They are too short sided to see that more teachers will be terminated if it passes.The bill would help them stay employed.

By Paul

April 19, 2011 4:57 PM | Link to this

Kasich is trying to fix Ohio’s problems…and the Democrats and greedy unions are “un-doing” it. This only means more public workers will actually Lose their jobs, because Ohio can’t afford collective bargaining, etc.

By Quentin

April 18, 2011 12:47 PM | Link to this

WJ, ummm, who are the CEOs and etc for the PUBLIC unions? Who are these fat cats getting rich you mentioned in the PUBLIC sector? Or are you unable to address the issue being discussed and prefer to just listen to what some union leader has to say without looking at the actual law and situation because you prefer to side based on political affiliation than facts?

By Squirrellygirl

April 18, 2011 10:47 AM | Link to this

Listen to Union Leader Trumka and his violent language. “We know where you live!” Listen to Union Leader Lerner, caught on tape exposing union plans to sabotage our banks and stockmarkets by asking their followers to not pay their mortgages and cause the banks to fail. This is how the unions plan to stay in business, by creating chaos. Their days of rage around the world “Workers of the World Unite!”—it’s not a coincidence that we are seeing this all at the same time around the world and here in the states. The progressives, this administration, and the unions are using every trick they can find to get more power and hold on to the power they have now. They are not too proud to be involved in criminal activity, and they have proven this to us. The main stream media has ignored this agenda and refuse to report on any adverse news that goes against this political agenda. They are attacking the youngest, the oldest, the weakest Americans and they have no guilt about it. Their hc bill is just another redistribution power grab. Obama’s bombing of Libya on UN’s R2P (Responsibility to Protect) orders and his constant attacks on Israel (as she tries to protect herself against the Palestinians) tell me that Obama does not think of Israel as our ally anymore. If you go to sleep now, you will wake up as Obama bombs Israel on UN’s R2P order. It’s coming. Code Pink is teaming up with Radical Islams to attack Israel and make her defend herself coming in May. UN is ready to attack Israel once that happens based on a retracted report that originally falsely claimed that Israel targeted Palestinian civilians, when Israel didn’t. Even though that report was retracted, UN won’t accept the retracted report and still eyes Israel as their next target. Time for America to withdraw from the UN and stop supporting their agenda to attack all free nations and ignore the torture of the communist nations.

By wj

April 18, 2011 10:25 AM | Link to this

The unions must real bad because they try to make a better life for working families “but the CEO and politicans must be good because they think of only themself.” My guess is that we don’t need and we don’t want the middle class.

By wj

April 18, 2011 10:25 AM | Link to this

The unions must real bad because they try to make a better life for working families “but the CEO and politicans must be good because they think of only themself.” My guess is that we don’t need and we don’t want the middle class.

By To Quentin

April 18, 2011 9:25 AM | Link to this

The injustice system on every level is just another arm of the government monster, hungry for me first benefits.the victims, in this system are dragged through the coals until they stop seeking fairness and justice.this is only one reason SB5 must pass.

By Alleycat

April 18, 2011 9:16 AM | Link to this

The Dept of Ed. Is an insatiable monster sucking the life from this country.It will be abolished in time to maintain solvency.As we work toward this end, unions must be terminated to save billions of taxpayers money.These parasites of the taxpayers will become extinct.

By Quentin

April 18, 2011 9:13 AM | Link to this

The bill actually didn’t go far ENOUGH. Look at all the recent police officers busted doing things against the rules of employement who have been busted several times in the past and KEPT their jobs because the UNIONS demanded it. I wonder if any of those who SUPPORT the repeal of it would change thier minds if they had to deal with one of the officers who would lie to get them convicted or is just too lazy to do the job right. A good example is a freind of mine robbed at gun point last week. He managed to follow them and get the police there but the woman who robbed him claimed he had tried to steal pills from her. Now she had no CCW or right to even HAVE the gun there and he had witnesses as well as the video that would have shown it from the ATM. The DPD officer just said he could either drop it or they would ALL be arrested and no he wouldn’t go talk to the witnesses since they were on the other side of town by then. Instead he would just arrest everyone and let a detective deal with it in a few days when they could get around to it. Yup, that is a well paid public worker protecting your safety. Of course he could have gone ahead and pressed the charges, missed a couple of days of work and lost out on more than she was robbed of at the ATM. Same with my trying to report my ex-wife violating a protective order. It took 5 tries to even get someone to take a report over a week long period of time and then it turned out the county had LOST the order. They said I would have to produce the copy showing they had been served with it but they KNOW the only copy showing that is the one THEY have, you just get a copy showing you actually HAVE and order but it can’t be enforced unless it shows they have been served with it. These are the people the unions protect and ensure have a job. Meanwhile the res of us are supposed to pay more taxes for them while we are struggling.

By Keep Fighting

April 18, 2011 9:08 AM | Link to this

To squirrellygirl The DDN is just like the unions.They do not care to expose truth, only partisan rhetoric.We all know this.We must continue to fight for freedom of speech and speak out, or we have lost our Constitutional rights that the libs work to destroy.

By Squirrellygirl

April 18, 2011 8:43 AM | Link to this

Since there is no edit key, change “our” to “are” in middle of third line of my previous post.

By Squirrellygirl

April 18, 2011 8:41 AM | Link to this

Americans want their children to learn the basics like math, reading, proper English. Instead, we find our children can’t read but our being indoctrinated against Christian and Jewish principles and for socialism and hating America and believing in lies about America and capitalism. We can provide our children with a better education of the basics without funding indoctrination of socialism. We need to starve the socialism and get rid of the teachers who can’t teach the basics. Education in America has not improved since the creation of the Department of Education. I say get rid of it.

By Squirrellygirl

April 18, 2011 8:36 AM | Link to this

I see that DDN left up all of the commenters that attacked me, yet I could not find even one of my posts remaining here. I think DDN believes I don’t have a right to express my opinions because they expose Obama and his administration’s agenda. I believe in God, and I believe that if our nation will turn to God and ask for His forgiveness, he will heal our land. But until then, I believe he has allowed progressives to believe lies because they didn’t want to know the truth. I do believe that people like Obama are posers and pretend to be followers of Christ when they, in truth, don’t know Him, never met Him, and in fact are working against God’s people. Example of UN’s R2P (Resposibility to Protect) from S. Power, wife of our regulatory czar, Cass Sustein and her apparent connection to Obama and the bombing of Libya without Congressional approval, without Libya being an imminent threat to America, and without Libya attacking America. I call for Obama’s impeachment. You can stick your foil hats where the sun doesn’t shine. Progressives have had to go in hiding after President Wilson and President FDR’s reigns of terror, and here they are again threatening us with blood in the streets, days of rage, union thugs beating up senior citizens at town hall meetings, and raiding our medicare and SS funds and redistributing it to their “green” projects. It’s time to stop Obama from sending our tax dollars to foreign countries like Brazil for drilling and jobs there. AG Holder blames Americans for being prejudiced and Obama’s anti-colonial hatred towards Americans can be blamed for redistributing our money out of country. Progressives were voted out last November’s election, and we will get rid of the rest of them next election. No shuttle for Dayton? Why are we not surprised by this?? Obama Politics is use them until they are used up, and then discard them. Just like Obama discarded Rev Wright who gave him “collective salvation”—what a bunch of crap! Congress needs to impeach Obama from bombing Libya w/o approval, and to keep him from bombing Israel who is next on UN’s R2P list. In May, the left wing radicals (Code Pink for one—supported by George Soros’ money) join with the Radical Islams to attack Israel and cause her to defend herself again, and UN will say they are targeting civilians again (the original report was recalled by the writer who said he provided inaccurate details and that Israel wasn’t targeting civilians—but UN won’t accept the refuted report, only the one where it said Israel was targeting Palestinian civilians). One world order, one world money system, Obama, Code Pink, George Soros, Cass Sustein, S. Power. Yahoo search: Bill Ayer, The Weather Underground, Undercover report to find out Obama’s plans for 25 million Americans and death camps.

By Jim

April 18, 2011 7:25 AM | Link to this

Rather than fight the unions, do not elect or support the people who are bad negotiators. Who got the holidays for you? Not the company. Who allowed the great wages and benefit packages. The company. The union and company negotiated, the unions seemed to have done the best so far. Should could there be some adjustment in some sectors, yes there should be. Before you take away from Police and Fire departments ask yourself what you charge to confront a robber with a gun or go into a burning build to safe another life. I guess breaking the unions would bring sports teams under control to. But would the owners give us a break on the tickets?

By Teech

April 17, 2011 8:55 PM | Link to this

I would love to be in the classroom and get to teach the little brats a lesson. The whiny parents that complain about teachers would dread the day I had their brats!

By The people have spoken

April 16, 2011 9:07 PM | Link to this

Union thugs will cost Ohio teachers everything if left unchecked.The people in Ohio have spoken. We will fight back. Bring on your cry baby referendum. We knew you could not take no for an answer, .You never have.

By God bless America

April 16, 2011 8:54 PM | Link to this

Hey Libs Ohio must become Albany in order for teachers to keep their jobs.Stop demonizing the Republicans and Kasich and start teaching the union thugs who only crave power for themselves.They could not care less about the teacher.Push back these devils among us.Support Kasich.

By ScottW.

April 16, 2011 8:06 PM | Link to this

To Jan I will feel incredibly happy.I grew up in catholic schools in the 70s with 38- 40 students in each classroom. Did not hurt me.I have an MBA and want the taxpayer to quit supporting lazy complaining unions.

By In God we Trust..not teachers

April 16, 2011 7:53 PM | Link to this

To Longtimer You would probably be happier in Venezuela or Cuba. I would not want you teaching my daughter.I could not trust what you would indoctrinate in the classroom. The more I hear from libs like you, the more I support vouchers and an end to the public school system, the root of all evil. Besides the Dept. Of Ed. Is raping the taxpayer.

By To Longtimer

April 16, 2011 7:45 PM | Link to this

Wow are you hung up! I am no church goer nor into formal religion.But to be so anti God is not a requirement to teach in Ohio’s public schools.Have you ever heard Ohio’s past motto for years and years….”With God all things are possible”? Even busting the egotistical union leaders who see themselves as rivals to all things great and powerful.Your values are in the gutter.

By Dog Days

April 16, 2011 5:47 PM | Link to this

I once had a dog that would bite you protecting his food dish. It didn’t even matter to him if you were the one feeding him. He also barked at anything he couldn’t recognize. He was a creature of habit… a real simpleton, but I sure did love that dog.

By Jim

April 16, 2011 3:21 PM | Link to this

We have Republican governors attacking the middle class on every issue. Nationally, the Republicans want to end Medicare and Medicaid, while giving more tax breaks to the millionaires and billionaires. We have corporations like GE and Exxon that pay no taxes, while the Republicans refuse to stop oil and Agriculture subsidies to corporations that make billions in profits. The republicans are also trying to dodge all environmental regulations and safety concerns at the state level to allow companies like Massey Energy(coal mine disaster) and BP to operate unchecked. The Republican ideology is fast becoming criminal.

By paul

April 16, 2011 12:46 PM | Link to this

If there was ever any question about the ignorance of those that claim to be right wingers, republicans or conservatives or you wonder why Ohio is in the mess its in, just read their posts and it will come crystal clear. These people are low information ideologs that regurgitate the spin, lies and misinformation spoon fed to them via faux noise, druggie limpbaugh or any other bought and paid for GOP liars. They do this to support their failed and corrupt ideology just like the media sources they follow and the poor excuses for leaders they chose. They dont care about the budget, they dont care about workers or workers rights, they dont care who gets screwed just as long as their poltical ideology is in place. Its ok to spend us into a hole in the ground, its ok to be as corrupt as you can get away with, its ok to take away rights just as long as its a republican doing it. As soon as the rest of us realize what were dealing with then maybe we can make some changes but until then just realize that we will live at the mercy of the multinational corporations that fund and pay for politicians like kasick, boehner, portman, dewine or any of the other power brokers Ohio chose over real public servants. Good luck Ohio, I feel sorry for you, your in a mess and Im not sure you’ll ever get out of it. Ohio historically has been a hot bed of republican corruption anyway and now you have really let the fox in the hen house.

By Jan

April 16, 2011 9:28 AM | Link to this

It is a myth to say that union employees can still bargain over wages and working conditions. The way the bargaining is set up favors management in any dispute. School boards work hand in hand with management, and they decide whose offer to choose when sides can’t decide. Class size is removed from what can be bargained, even though it can affect safety of both teachers and students, it is not considered a working condition. How will parents feel when this law allows class sizes of 35 or 40?

By Comfort/Security

April 16, 2011 9:24 AM | Link to this

I smile reading the panic/anxiety/threatshidden in the comments of the privileged civil servant class. They vote in their political bosses who control the purse strings/money, make sweet back room deals and maintain control of endless supplies of money to feed their pie holes. Employees in private industry are an expense, but offset/reduce their “expense” by producing a product that generates capital. Civil servants are a straight out expense…and now we’ve found out how expensive they are. They don’t like being found out…and the sweet monetary deals they’ve created for thenselves at our expense. The cookie jar is now off limits, non-producers. The protections you’ve enjoyed will soon be gone. Welcome to the real world. Sit down, strap in, shut up, and hold on.

By longtimeredditor

April 16, 2011 9:23 AM | Link to this

Abolish public education? Yes thats what we want all our kids indoctrinated with religous nonsense in private schools. Some of us want our children to learn how to read and write and to learn scientific fact (i.e. evolution). Not a xenophobic rhetoric that a lot of religious zealots want tought to our children. Keep god out of our education system.

By longtimeredditor

April 16, 2011 9:19 AM | Link to this

Abolish public education? Yes thats what we want all our kids indoctrinated with religous nonsense in private schools. Some of us want our children to lear how to read and right and to learn scientific fact (i.e. evolution). Not a xenophobic rhetoric that a lot of religious zealots want tought to our children. Keep god out of our education system.

By Jan

April 16, 2011 9:11 AM | Link to this

Kasich obviously has no respect for public employees like cops and teachers. His comments about a ticket he received was reminiscent of Obama’s police blunder. Increasing spending for charters and vouchers, while paving the way foe unquallified teachers to compete for jobs in Ohio show a disrespect for those already teaching. This is just more class warfare, only coming from Republicans instead of Democrats. How about all politicians stop choosing winners and losers, and pitting Americans against each other?

By Terra Firma

April 16, 2011 8:34 AM | Link to this

Kasich knows of what he is doing.He will make stunning changes that will turn Ohio around.Moving toward the pre union state ushered in by Celeste will be agonizing for the teacher unions who are used to begging, stealing, whining, pouting, threatening, and gyrating to get anything they desire.Just sit back and enjoy the show the unions perform in their death throws.

By Pray For the Tormented

April 16, 2011 8:14 AM | Link to this

We continue our prayer vigil for the tormented teachers who hate speak against legislators, parents, students and taxpayers.They need help and consolation.Their vengeful words show their misery and unhappiness. vengeful tongues are the symptoms of

By Eager to vote

April 16, 2011 7:44 AM | Link to this

Bring on the referendum, union duds. You validate what we all know you are.Sore losers.Neurotic and spoiled with arrested development.

By @SHELLY

April 16, 2011 7:14 AM | Link to this

The 1000 signatures are required to get the referendum process started. 3000 signatures were collected on the first Sun afternoon after Kasich signed the bill into law. 88% (2640) were validated as “real” by Dewine & Husted yesterday. Now collecting the 232,000 can begin. According to some reports 10,000 have signed up to gather signatures - that’s only 25 per person. Most people probably know that many folks. The signatures will be gathered.

By @SHELLY

April 16, 2011 7:08 AM | Link to this

The 1000 signatures that were collected on a Sun afternoon actually numbered 3000 - of which 88% (2640) were validated as “real”. Those were the signatures required to get the process started. DeWine & Husted approved the signatures & petition language yesterday. Some reports say that 10,000 have signed up to gather signatures - that’s only approx 25 signatures per person.

By wildwoodflower

April 16, 2011 6:52 AM | Link to this

Don’t mean to rain on your parade, right wing trolls, but it will be very easy for We Are Ohio to collect the required valid signatures. Have you seen the polls lately? The majority of Ohioans are already realizing what a mistake it was to put the backward thinking Kasich into office. The only good thing he’s done and probably will do, is give the schools back 2 calamity days.

By Kasich gets it.

April 16, 2011 3:03 AM | Link to this

@JerryO What side of stupidity did you wake up on? Of course it is the unions fault.They, not politicians stole taxpayer dollars to enrich themselves, at the abuse of the taxpayer.Bring on the referendum.Oust the parasites who are sucking Ohio dry.

By Alleycat

April 16, 2011 2:57 AM | Link to this

Public education should be abolished.Vouchers are the answer.Notice that all this union complaining from the me me me group of teachers never once addresses the needs of children.The children never are mentioned. It is just constant ridicule of the taxpayer by the bloated overindulgant hungry money grubbing unions.These derelicts cannot be trusted.Save Ohioans billions and yes, bust the unions.

By Elections mean business

April 16, 2011 2:48 AM | Link to this

Parasites such as teachers unions are the problem.We are all deserving of the opportunity yo rid ourselves of their greediness.This is the reason Kasich was elected.It is the will of the majority of Ohioans to clean house of the fat cats before we are all marching around with no freedoms.

By Shelly

April 16, 2011 1:35 AM | Link to this

They have got only 1000 votes so far. What a joke???? I can’t wait till it’s on the ballot and shot down by the middle-class taxpayers who are sick of supporting these parasties. As usual, the leftist DDN headline “Collective Bargaining law repeal effort moves forward” spins the story to make you think it is going to be on the ballot. 1,000 signatures????? Give me a break!!!

By JerryO

April 15, 2011 8:58 PM | Link to this

My complaint with SB5 is that it takes away a right we have. Which of the rights that you cherish will be next. Unions are not to blame. Blame our politicians.

By ToSMH

April 15, 2011 7:52 PM | Link to this

You are all wet.He is working for all of us.This bill must happen in order to save teachers jobs and put our state back in operating shape.Sacrifices must be made.

By Union Bossman

April 15, 2011 7:06 PM | Link to this

This SB5 ticks me off, I can no longer force my public union slaves to pay me my Union dues.

By earl

April 15, 2011 7:04 PM | Link to this

Joe Biden… I mean Leghorn Foghorn.

By Riverstink

April 15, 2011 6:55 PM | Link to this

I am happy to get the chance to vote against this huge escalating future debt that Dick Celeste chained around Ohio’s neck by buying state workers union votes decades ago when he put this into place.

By @earl

April 15, 2011 6:07 PM | Link to this

Yeah, Dumbo and wife Jumbo!

By Weaken union power

April 15, 2011 6:05 PM | Link to this

So what if union power is weakened.Criminals are restrained in jails also.We must fight to preserve a solvent state.That is our right and duty.Get over it, union selfish.

By earl

April 15, 2011 6:01 PM | Link to this

Did I write Barack Obama? I meant Dumbo.

By Union arrested development

April 15, 2011 5:59 PM | Link to this

The union leaders may be the most selfish neurotic group that society has to tolerate.They never matured into adult roles.They are not accountable nor responsible.They are self absorbed greedy takers

By earl

April 15, 2011 5:58 PM | Link to this

If I am approached to sign the petition, I intend on signing the name of a cartoon character…such as Elmer Fudd, or George Jetson, or Barack Obama.

By Leslie shiner union greed

April 15, 2011 5:52 PM | Link to this

Bring on the vote, cry babies.You really can’t accept that your greed has ruined this state.You do not have the character to care, and that is how you can live with yourselves.

By Greed, Greed, Greed

April 15, 2011 5:33 PM | Link to this

It was the greed of labor union leaders that got Ohio, most other states, and the federal government into the financial mess that everyone is now in. Now they want a referendum! They can all go to you know where. I’m a taxpayer and I’m sick of their greed.

By SMH

April 15, 2011 4:58 PM | Link to this

Isn’t it funny how Kasich wants to cut government spending and government jobs, but he is a government worker himself? Is he trying to cut his spending, cut his wages, and raise his insurance costs? Who do you really think Kasich is working for. Its not the middle class he’s for, its the rich.

By Bill

April 15, 2011 4:43 PM | Link to this

For the most part sensible comments. Don’t know about the rodents ‘cause I quit reading anything she said a long time ago. On issues concerning working people’s wages it is only right workers should get a chance to vote on how wages and benefits are determined if it be public or the private sector.

By longtimeredditor

April 15, 2011 4:42 PM | Link to this

Squirrelly girl what you’ve just said … is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

By null

April 15, 2011 4:37 PM | Link to this

bargain for wages Lets get real so lets say the union ask for $15 an hr the city comes back with $10 the union comes back with 13 and the city offers $10 so they cant agree with SB5 the city gets to make the final choice HMMM what offer do you think the go with… Thats not bargain for wages

By RED

April 15, 2011 4:36 PM | Link to this

OMG I can’t believe how two faced Republicans are. Obama should be impeached for helping Lybian citizens but Bush was a hero for jumping into Iraq for no reason. Give me a break. I am so fed up with Republicans making up their own rules.

By SU

April 15, 2011 4:35 PM | Link to this

So when i post something that does not agree with everyone and does not use foul or abusive language it gets taken down? Why? Must be the anti religion comment. But us “evil Progressives” are the ones who want to supress freedom?

By Simple Question

April 15, 2011 4:21 PM | Link to this

This ballot issue should read as follows………………….. “WILL YOU PAY HIGHER TAXES TO FUND BENEFITS THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF MIDDLE CLASS OHIOANS WILL NEVER HAVE?”

By null

April 15, 2011 3:29 PM | Link to this

Can’t wait till November to vote this bill down and show Ka$ich the people need to be listened to.

By bub

April 15, 2011 2:58 PM | Link to this

Does anyone else see the irony in instituting “merit based” systems for teachers (who have to pass hundreds of tests in order to get a degree and certification) and the “dumbing down” of the requirements to become a Police Officer in Dayton? WOW. Also, think of Kasich’s comment about being pulled over by an “idiot” - well, that may very well end up being the case in Dayton. Strange times here in the rust belt.

By SU

April 15, 2011 2:51 PM | Link to this

@D Thank you! It’s nice to see a plain as day no “spin” explanation of the facts. Certainly you are not of the Fox News ilk.

By D

April 15, 2011 2:44 PM | Link to this

To settle a few issues: 1. The state Constitution allows for referendums on laws passed at the state level. This is democracy at its best. If the people don’t really want the law, they will repeal the law. If the people really want the law, then it will be law. Referendums are not allowed at the federal level. You wonder why nothing ever gets done, but the people did not have the opportunity to look at this law when evaluating candidates last year. A referendum gives people a chance to help manage the laws that run them. No one ever claimed democracy was fast or efficient. 2. Obama is allowed to bomb Libya under the auspices of being the commander in chief of the armed forces and his actions also are allowed under the War Powers Act which says that the president is allowed to dispatch troops or make war wherever he wants for sixty days without Congressional approval. The only limitation is that he must inform the leadership in the both houses of Congress within 48 hours of action beginning. He did this. 3. The effort to repeal SB5 can’t choose when it is on the ballot. That is controlled by state law. If the bill were put in place before April 6 and the proper number of signatures were collected, the referendum has to be on the November ballot. If the law was passed after April 6 and the proper signatures were collected, the referendum election would not occur till November 2012.

By su

April 15, 2011 2:16 PM | Link to this

Wow @ignorance and squirrely! I suppose we should all get out our tinfoil hats and make sure those commies don’t get in through Palin’s back yard! The fact of the matter is Scott Walker in WI has been qouted as saying that the “union bills have no effect on state’s budgets.” Its a cash grab to line their pockets from the koch’s. The fact of the matter remains that as this country is skewing more diverse, younger and athiest (i.e. more progressive) The Hardcore conservative movement will fade. This is a last ditch effort to institute as much corporate and faith based legislation into our government before the republicans crazy their way out of our culture for good. I for one dream of that day. So for you squirrely: Have fun in your nationalistic, ethnocentric, 1950’sish hell hole known as merka’

By 448 Kiefaber St

April 15, 2011 1:58 PM | Link to this

Think this through people - Do you really want this on the ballot the same time all the schools and police departments have leavies on the ballot? You may preserve your benefits but for fewer jobs. But when was thinking a requirement of union membership.

By @ Perspective

April 15, 2011 1:55 PM | Link to this

The unions can bargain for wages, but the management makes the final decision, which means that it doesn’t matter if the workers can bargain for wages - they have no power in the bargaining (the management will always decide). It’s pointless, and the current administration and general assembly thinks people are stupid and will fall for that. We are not, however, stupid, and that “you can bargain for wages” BS will not work…………

By Perspective

April 15, 2011 1:33 PM | Link to this

All you naysayers of SB5 don’t even know what it says. Maybe if you read a little bit you would know that “It bans strikes by public workers, institutes a merit pay system, and limits unions to bargaining on wages, terms and conditions.” That’s right the unions can still bargain for wages! So they have to pay more for medical,who doesn’t? So quit with all your tired whining about cops and firemen and teachers making $8 an hour because it isn’t going to happen.

By Jeanie

April 15, 2011 1:17 PM | Link to this

Squirrelly…the only reason we aren’t free anymore is because of supposed “leaders” like Kasich. He doesnt care about us - just himself. He’s out to make a name for himself. The law will be repealed and hopefully he will be recalled.

By C'mon

April 15, 2011 1:15 PM | Link to this

@xxx, It’s not the Dayton PD that is requiring the lower test scores, its’ the Department of Justice. Read up before you throw your thoughts out there. The officers want the best qualified candidates. It’ the big wigs who are trying to change it.

By baddog72

April 15, 2011 1:10 PM | Link to this

If SB 5 was to go into effect today, the results would be a complete disaster. Cities would fire all their cops and firemen and offer them part-time jobs w/o benefits. Kasich added the Casino folks to his list of enemies this week, Mother’s Day is coming up, are they next?

By To Steve and J

April 15, 2011 12:27 PM | Link to this

Call Democratic HQ downtown to find out about signing petition.

By Ignorance

April 15, 2011 11:41 AM | Link to this

Squirrellygirl… I’ve read your numerous posts on all things and all they do is show your ignorance. So please quit making everyone else stupid and stop posting. You will not find anywhere in the Constitution where it says the President can bomb Libya without Congress’ approval. That is because the Constitution was vaguely written centuries ago to allow the Constitution to be flexible enough to meet the needs of current society. The Constitution does name the President Commander-in-Chief of all branches of armed services which allows him to do such things as bomb Libya or get involved in the countries Korean or Vietnam. We are not officially at war with Libya so he does not need Congress’ approval. Just like former presidents didn’t need Congress’ approval to get involved in Korea or Vietnam because we were never officially at war with them. It wasn’t until recently that they changed from “conflicts” to “wars”.

By Dr. Real

April 15, 2011 11:31 AM | Link to this

Let the unionists have their day…we’ll vote for Senate Bill 5 and bring some sanity back to Ohio. We knew it would be a long fight.

By @xxx

April 15, 2011 11:22 AM | Link to this

You hit the nail on the head. Read the DDN article about how hard the Dayton Police are trying to manipulate their tests so that they can hire blacks that wouldn’t have been hired without the additional “interview” they are now adding to the mix. That’s right. My taxes are going to go pay someone for their skin color, not their ability to do the job properly. Police jobs paid with our tax money should be given to the people who perform the best on their tests. So what language do you use in the interviews? Do you speak slang? Wow.

By Steve

April 15, 2011 11:13 AM | Link to this

Sign me up!

By xxx

April 15, 2011 11:13 AM | Link to this

If I was minority, I would’nt care about Sb5. If I lost my job. I would just “interview” and get it back.LOL

By J

April 15, 2011 11:06 AM | Link to this

Where do I sign?