By Squirrellygirl

May 20, 2011 1:22 PM | Link to this

I hope God raptures His church before Obama starts World War III with his stabbing Israel in the back and commanding them to give up their land they gained in ‘67 war. Israel can’t do this because they won’t be able to defend themselves against their enemies THAT SURROUND THEIR COUNTRY AND SAY THAT THEY WANT TO KILL EVERY JEW. I don’t think Obama considers Jews people. He is anti-Jew, anti-Japanese, anti-colonial (anti-Brittain)…If I’m still here next election, and there’s a vote to repeal SB-5, I vote against the repeal. That’s all I can say right now. But I truly believe America will be blown off the map by then. Venezuela is building nuclear bomb aimed at us with Russia’s help. Obama has done nothing to make this country more secure. Also, don’t forget Obama bombed Pakistan, another country that already has nuclear bombs. He’s got us in 3 wars now, so I believe we can now call Obama the WAR PRESIDENT!

By Cat Slobber

May 17, 2011 9:20 PM | Link to this

@ Bean Counter, So I give you the World Health Org. and 3 different wolrdwide publications but they are “vague references”. That’s right I forgot, if FAUX news didn’t say it, it never happend. Bottom line is we have more uninsured people everyday and you and I are paying for them through taxes and higher premiums. Obama Care may not be the answer in its current form but at least they’re trying which is something that hasn’t happend since Clinton was in office.

By Astragalus

May 17, 2011 2:38 PM | Link to this

Health care isn’t universal. If you need care in Germany you start at the Apotheke (not a drugstore, Apothekes only provide medications) You describe symptoms or show the clerk your problem, and the medication you need may be given to you. Many times a trip to the Dr is avoided. This would be equivalent to going to the pharmacist, saying AHHHH, and leaving with antibiotics, illegal in the U.S. BTW, in Germany herbal remedies are considered drugs and are rated for safety and efficacy. So much for comparing German and U.S health care.

By Quentin

May 17, 2011 11:05 AM | Link to this

If the Obamacare idea is so great, why are the states, politicians, unions and companies that pushed so hard for it all suddenly getting waivers? Also why did they require it be passed before people could actually READ the law? If anyone on the conservative end tried to do anything like that then the MSM would be all over them for it and you would see violent protests against it. This time we had union members who were told by their masters to be FOR it who were violent and beating up those who dared ask questions and oppose it unless they could find out about the laws BEFORE they were passed. Now those same leaders are getting all their people exempted from the laws they were beating people up for NOT wanting forced on them.

By Squirrellygirl

May 17, 2011 10:37 AM | Link to this

Cat Slobber forgets that unborn babies get “screwed” with Obama’s hc plan. I guess babies aren’t people just like the Jews weren’t considered people back when Hitler was trying to make them extinct. The minority who call themselves “progressives” are trying to nudge or push all Americans into their socialist box. It won’t work. We know freedom and we won’t give it up to let the government “take care” of us. And BTW, you and Bill Ayers WILL answer to God for your intents and plans for 25 million Americans who won’t be “re-educated” to socialism. President Obama should be ashamed of himself, but he is narcissistic. I’ve been praying for him to make good decisions for Americans in spite of himself.

By Bean Counter

May 17, 2011 10:35 AM | Link to this

Slobber, Again, please cite the specific study or studies you are refering to. I asked for specifics, and I get a generalization. Never claimed they came from the Obama Adm., although he has become thge poster child of partisan misinformation. Again, I challenge your information. As I stated before, I challenge your “facts” reagarding health care costs from around the world. They DO differ in many ways because there are no universal standards. Add that to agenda driven politicians and publications you get your distorted view of reality. Come on slobber, you made some very strong statements, now back it up with something other than vague references and name calling.

By Cat Slobber

May 17, 2011 10:15 AM | Link to this

@Bean Counter, That’s 25+ years in Healthcare Technology \ Administration so yeah I stand by my statement. As for the numbers, they were released by the WHO and printed several times in USA Today, Newsweek, US News and World report. The numbers are not from the Obama Administration or have anything to do with ObamaCare. they are just FACTS about Healthcare costs versus benefit from around the world and we are getiing screwed with the current system and so far he’s the only one trying to do anything about it.

By Squirrellygirl

May 17, 2011 10:09 AM | Link to this

I would like to add my signature to get rid of this fiasco hc bill that forces redistribution of wealth, makes it mandatory to purchase hc which is unconstitutional, makes it mandatory for me to pay for murder of unborn babies, provides for death panels when they run out of money and have to ration money, and only gives waivers to unions and others who are “in bed” with this current progressive socialist administration.

By Squirrellygirl

May 17, 2011 9:55 AM | Link to this

Raiel, regarding “@WhatAboutBob?” are you disputing the facts about Obama’s hc fiasco bill? Americans are not going to lay down and let this president steal away our freedom of choice. He can’t make us purchase something, especially when he is giving unions which he is in bed with 1500 waivers. Conspiracy theories? How about down right chicago style thugery!

By Bean Counter

May 17, 2011 6:32 AM | Link to this

Slobber, I stand by my statement. Cite where you get your facts. be specific, please. 25 years in a field does not automatically equal expert status. In this day and of Orwellian/Obamian doublespeak “facts” are relative and easily manipulated and distorted, as Obama’s health care exemption fiasco indicates.

By Paul

May 17, 2011 12:23 AM | Link to this

Its so contradictory. Obama makes it a “mandate” that everyone buy insurance… and then “exempts” thousands of businesses from it! ObamaCare is a prime example of the total Incompetence of Obama and his administration.

By Bo Peep

May 16, 2011 10:53 PM | Link to this

Mama always said you cannot argue with crazy.

By Philman

May 16, 2011 9:54 PM | Link to this

This Obamacare is SOOOO GOOD that he (obama) has given Waivers to around 1500 companies & Unions, mostly unions and of the latest 200 , a large portion of them were from San Francisco, Nancy ( we have to pass the obamacare bill to see whats in it )Pelosi’s district, how rich, and the liberal media is silent..they were also silent about Nancy voting to exempt Americam Somoa, where her husbands company is located, from the Federal minimum wage increase last year, THESE LIBERAL LIARS GET A PASS FROM MEDIA ABOUT THEIR FALSE CLAIMS TO BE FOR THE LITTLE GUY..

By Cateyes

May 16, 2011 8:58 PM | Link to this

Awesome!!! Who is actually going to be covered by this socialists healthcare, that will bankrupt America, when all the states and working citizens exempt themselves from Obamacare???? 200 more waivers granted yesterday for companies that cannot afford Obamacare. This one term president is a joke.

By Becky

May 16, 2011 8:12 PM | Link to this

The people who will choose to not buy health insurance are the ones who won’t be able to pay for their own health care needs. They will just go to the hospital and they will have to take care of them, as they do now. That is not fair. Make them buy insurance!

By Insured Person

May 16, 2011 6:47 PM | Link to this

I’m wondering what will happen if the people who don’t want to be compelled to purchase health insurance happen to be involved in a serious automobile accident, are rushed to the hospital, and incur thousands of dollars in medical expenses? Who pays their tab? Oh wait, I think I know. It gets passed on to the people who have insurance.

By Cat Slobber

May 16, 2011 6:44 PM | Link to this

@ Bean Counter I did the research with my 25+ years of working in HealthCare. The facts I posted below are just that FACTS. Don’t you just hate it when those get in the way…. @ Distorted Perspective, Liberal??? I voted for Reagan and McCain, so exactly how Liberal does that make me?????

By raiel

May 16, 2011 5:06 PM | Link to this

@WhatAboutBob? And I’m also guessing that you think Obama faked the moon landing. Let me know if you have any ideas that aren’t crazy conspiracy ideas that have already been debunked. Thank you.

By LucyLouise

May 16, 2011 5:03 PM | Link to this

Those that want to live under socialism/communism should move to a country that is run under those guidelines. We are a “Republic” and that is the way we want it to stay. The reason that our elitist government allows so many illegals in the country is that they don’t care. They just want to get out of the hell-hole where they were born.

By omegaraiel

May 16, 2011 5:01 PM | Link to this

I’ll put down @jrock as a “Yes” for “I want to pay higher premiums.”

By omegaraiel

May 16, 2011 5:01 PM | Link to this

I’ll put down @jrock as a “Yes” for “I don’t want to pay higher premiums.”

By jrock

May 16, 2011 4:18 PM | Link to this

About the health care mandate. That government is best which governs least.

By raiel

May 16, 2011 4:10 PM | Link to this

If the Ohio ignores the individual mandate, our health care premiums will never decrease. I am tired of paying higher costs because people get free care at hospitals which pass those costs onto other patients. If you want to pay higher costs, then vote to exempt Ohio from the mandate. It’s the only part of the HCR designed to significantly reduce cost.

By WhatAboutBob?

May 16, 2011 3:52 PM | Link to this

Bob: “If Jesus picked sides…..read Mark’s testimony about the eye of a camel.” So…are you saying the eye of the camel is mandatory forced redistribution of wealth using the health care bill? Seriously, Bob, that’s a stretch. Honestly, I know you are trying to say rich people won’t go to heaven, but that’s not what this verse means. The love of money is a sin, not money itself. If you love money more than God, then no, you won’t make it into heaven. There’s no way you can force this scripture and manipulate it to mean that if Americans don’t pass mandatory hc, they won’t go to heaven. You are assuming that mandatory hc will be fair, but it won’t. It will kill off the unborn babies because abortion is paid for under Obama’s hc plan. Also, it will kill off our elderly who are sick, because Obama’s plan provides for emergency shortfall of money, and to limit funding to whom Obama and his cohorts deem fit. That will be politically driven, totally unfair, and no, all republicans are not going to hell because they hate the hc bill. Wow… Bob, were you being a comic here, or were you serious?

By Bean Counter

May 16, 2011 3:17 PM | Link to this

Slobber, funny that you mention apples to apples. Do some research. You shouldn’t assume the Math you refer to measures apples to apples. They do not. How do they catagorize when life begins? Accidental deaths, gun deaths, ect. Check it out, it may enlighten you. Measuring methods are not universal.

By bob

May 16, 2011 3:14 PM | Link to this

Yes,leave it in the employers hands.That way,I can “retire” at 74,have no better coverage than those NOT employed and be thrown to the dogs upon retirement.Baby-boomers are getting screwed into the ground by Republicans.Their arrogance towards working America is appalling.If Jesus picked sides…..read Mark’s testimony about the eye of a camel

By Perspective

May 16, 2011 3:09 PM | Link to this

Obviously Cat Slobber can’t read. This Bill will not keep anyone from participating in Obama’s healthcare plan IF THEY WANT TO. What it will do is keep the Federal govt. from MAKING YOU BUY INSURANCE if you don’t want to. BTW Kitty Drool how nice of you to open your post with an insult. Typical left wing style.You preach tolerance and yet you HATE ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH YOU.

By judi wants a cracker

May 16, 2011 3:02 PM | Link to this

Republicans, Republicans, Koch Brothers, Koch Brothers, awk! awk! awk!

By Jimminy Crickets

May 16, 2011 2:53 PM | Link to this

Why does every bill have to be a constitutional amendment? Just like the smoking ban and look what that did to business’ and it is in the constitution, way to go GOP

By Cat Slobber

May 16, 2011 2:12 PM | Link to this

@ The Kid, Last time I checked the UAE is not a major industrialized nation. So come back when you want to compare apples to apples……

By the kid

May 16, 2011 1:55 PM | Link to this

Hey catslobber, in the UAE they also have a longer life expectancy. They also tell women who to marry and make them cover their heads when they leave their house. Maybe we can try that around here to increase our life expectancy.

By sam jones

May 16, 2011 1:38 PM | Link to this

@ Judi…..it is Bush’s fault for the bad weather here in ohio……and it is also Bush’s fault fast rail service is not coming here…..

By Perspective

May 16, 2011 1:33 PM | Link to this

Man all you haters just love to hate. Did you even read the article? This Bill will exempt you from HAVING TO BUY insurance.It has nothing to do with taking insurance away. If you feel you want to obey Obama’s unconstitutional healthcare law YOU STILL CAN. All it means is the Obama administration cannot FORCE you to buy insurance.Quit hating so much and start reading.

By YouMakeMyHeadHurt!

May 16, 2011 1:15 PM | Link to this

Jesus would say, if a man doesn’t work, neither shall he eat. It’s in there, you just have to read it. Nowhere is forced redistribution of wealth endorsed by Jesus. Nowhere. You people who say it is against Jesus apparently haven’t cared enough about Jesus to read the Word of God for yourselves. Perhaps you should find another church that encourages you to read the Bible for yourself. Just sayin…if you haven’t read the Bible, how do you know what YOUR preacher is preaching is actually the Word of God or just his skewed opinion of it, and maybe your preacher hasn’t read the Word of God.

By Judi

May 16, 2011 1:10 PM | Link to this

Ohio is putting another nail in it’s coffin. thank you Repubs for “having your way” with the citizens who live here. No jobs, no good educators, no fast rail, bad environment, older population, bad weather, NO AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE, no big corporations…….but LOTS of privatization for Kasich and buddies the Koch Brothers. You Teabaggers have been duped!

By tb

May 16, 2011 12:53 PM | Link to this

We cannot let this be passed. This is not christian…So all those who claim they believe in Jesus, ask yourself what would jesus do..i’m ashamed of ohio for all that is being turned back to the 50’s.

By Mel

May 16, 2011 12:51 PM | Link to this

Hey Steven. That moving idea also applies to you. See ya and good luck

By Cat Slobber

May 16, 2011 12:37 PM | Link to this

The SHEEPLE just don’t get it. There were 35 million uninsured when this debate started back during the DUHbya 8 years of do nothing about it. Now there’s over 50 million uninsured and rising. We are the only major industrialized nation in the world that still does it this way and we pay 2.5 times per capita as much for healthcare than the next closest nation. (Germany) Yet all of those supposedly inferior socialized medicine countries have longer life expectancies. DO THE MATH………

By steven

May 16, 2011 12:36 PM | Link to this

Tomas, You could always move, there are other states in the union…

By Tomas

May 16, 2011 12:24 PM | Link to this

It figures that this “I wanna be in the 1950’s” gang is trying this. I hope they do not get a debilitating illness that drains their savings accounts since they COULD have had health care. This is the most regressive state in the union.