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Mike Brown on Michael Vick
CINCINNATI — For Mike Brown, when it comes to Michael Vick joining the Cincinnati Bengals, it’s not about the dogs now…it’s about queen bees.
“When you have a situation like ours, he’s a very difficult fit,” the Bengals owner said Tuesday afternoon. “Quarterbacks are like queen bees. You can only have one of them before they start stepping on each other and we have ours.
“Carson (Palmer) is the guy.”
After serving 20 months in prison for his involvement in a dogfighting operation that maimed and killed many animals, the former Atlanta Falcons quarterback was conditionally reinstated to the NFL Monday by league commissioner Roger Goodell.
Once the highest paid player in the NFL — and now broke — Vick had been suspended from the league since August of 2007. He’s on three months probation and will be officially mentored by former Indianapolis Colts head coach Tony Dungy.
Goodell said the 29-year-old Vick can be signed by any team and is allowed to practice immediately. Providing he meets stipulations. he could be reinstated by the sixth week of the regular season. He would be allowed to play in the final two preseason games.
At the Bengals annual preseason kick-off luncheon at Paul Brown Stadium, Tuesday, Brown was asked about Goodell’s handling of the situation.
“I think he did exactly the right thing. I’m sort of proud of how he went about it. He split the baby in a pretty impressive fashion.
“I would argue that Michael Vick made a bad error, but what a price he has paid. He’s paid millions of dollars — millions. He lost his reputation and he’s gone to prison. I don’t know what more you could do to a guy than what has been done to him already.
“I’m not one of those who wants to beat on him when he is down. I hope he can reestablish himself and come back. I don’t think he should be forever denied a chance to get back as a productive citizen. I wish him well.
“We haven’t made any calls on him — it just doesn’t fit for (Vick) here in a football sense — but I would think that some team will be out after him and I think he would be signed fairly quickly.
“I hope a team will pick him up and give him a chance to play. Give him a chance to redeem himself. And I think it would be nice if it ends up a good story.”
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By Bob540
August 9, 2009 8:47 PM | Link to this
The question seems to be: “Should the Bengals have interest in Vick?” I say “No”. The baggage that comes along with Vick needs an org that is not saddled with losing and incompetence, as the Bengals are. Cincy needs choir boys for players, not more scandal. A team that goes, say, 18-36 in 3 seasons (a good stretch for the Bengals) needs saints for players. Let winning clubs sign him — they can afford it much more than the Bengals.
By Lance Wright
July 30, 2009 3:16 AM | Link to this
Mr. Vick has paid his debt to society.However,my reservations about him playing in the NFL are related to why Pete Rose isn’t enshrined at Cooperstown:gambling issues!Moral judgements about dogfighting are irrelevant to the “should Vick play in the NFL again” debate in my view.The cash-strapped Vick could certainly be motivated to fix a game for the right price.We all know he’s no stranger to gambling culture.Any thoughts on this subject?
By catzmiao
July 29, 2009 7:49 PM | Link to this
No, PC, you are wrong. Until god comes down and introduces himself personally to me, I can judge. In fact, even if he does, he alledgedly gave me an opinion to voice. I can judge about animal killers all I want. Believe me I won’t watch this P.O.S. of a humanity. I love it when people judge me for judging others - just because someone sat in a cell with three squares and outdoor recess, that might make it okey dokey for the government, but not for torturing dogs or anything else. I hope his welcome to the NFL is cold and consistantly indicative of what we want six figure role models to earn. Americans, by and large, don’t forget this crimes against animals or kids or anything dependant on our care.
By Shane
July 29, 2009 5:39 PM | Link to this
Roger GODdell
By P.C.
July 29, 2009 4:33 PM | Link to this
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. The only one who can judge Vick is GOD. Whatever his punishment will be is up to him. We have all done some things in our lives that we are not proud of and wondered what people would think of us if they knew. Life is about second chances. Weather your mistake be large or small we have all gotten a second chance at some point that we didnt deserve by someones standards. But we got it and are all to graetful for it. I am 39, I have been a Falcons fan for most of my life. I was very hurt by what Vick did to my team and this city. I was mad as hell at about his acts of disgrace and cruelty towards animals and his total lack of respect for animal life. It’s not for me to judge if he can play in the NFL . What if it were you with a family to provide for and only had one mean of doing so? You would want a second chance as well. Don’t like it, don’t watch. By law he has paid he debt to us. Let the chips fall where they may. I wish him well.
By carbunkle
July 29, 2009 1:46 PM | Link to this
Let’s just leave out the animal cruelty aspects of Vick’s crimes (despite my belief that a man who could kill a dog with his bare hands in the ways Vick did is an utter psychopath who would do the same thing to a human being if he thought he could get away with it). We’re still left with two things – Organized Crime over a several year period, and Gambling, lest we forget that dogfighting is not just a gladiatorial funfest for its participants. Two things that ought to anathema to any professional sports organization. The NFL is INSANE for having anything more to do with this guy.
By m
July 29, 2009 1:13 PM | Link to this
Mike Brown is a moron. Palmer is overrated and without a solid running game he will be picking himself up off the turf every play. No mobility= losing season
By m
July 29, 2009 1:12 PM | Link to this
Mike Brown is a moron. Palmer is overrated and without a solid running game he will be picking himself up off the turf every play. No mobility= losing season
By William
July 29, 2009 12:57 PM | Link to this
The most Vick can hope for at this point is a back-up job. I heard there is an opening in Cleveland.
By flipper
July 29, 2009 12:52 PM | Link to this
Mr Big he ain’t no-mo. Well he could fall back on his education to get a job. What’s that? No education. There is another lesson he learned the hard way.
By catzmiao
July 29, 2009 12:09 PM | Link to this
I agree with Shane and City and Coco - animal cruelty is nasty and the number of repeat offenders arrested is always high in those cases. I wouldn’t want my kids having him as a role model and I wouldn’t be one bit surprised if every stadium where he plays becomes a protest spot. According to the indictment, dogs that didn’t show enough fighting spirit, or that lost matches, were put to death by a variety of methods, including shooting, drowning, hanging and electrocution. Prosecutors allege that on one occasion earlier this year, Vick participated in killing eight dogs. That is not a ‘mistake’. That is a disgusting unforgiveable crime.
By wow
July 29, 2009 11:10 AM | Link to this
whats the difference between vick killen a dog or stallworth killen a man
By Shane
July 29, 2009 10:36 AM | Link to this
How is purposely killing animals a “mistake?” That is a word that is thrown around way too often as an excuse.
By Charlie
July 29, 2009 8:11 AM | Link to this
This is to Barry. You a friggin idiot. I wonder if your mother had any kids that developed brains. Just a dog? It’s people like you that allow this type of “event” to continue.
By What A City
July 29, 2009 7:48 AM | Link to this
Nope- no reinstatement. Let him starve. The man did an inhumane thing. It is unforgivable. Find another profession Vick. Sorry I can’t forgive like the rest of you.
By Dolla
July 29, 2009 3:10 AM | Link to this
To be honest, I really think the right choice was made, Vick, made a poor decision, and he’s paid for it… Some times, everyone needs a second chance, at least he wasn’t selling drugs.
By Mike
July 29, 2009 1:30 AM | Link to this
Any truth that Mike Brown is involved in dog fighting? I wouldn’t mind seeing him suspended for a few seasons.
By Tagger
July 29, 2009 1:10 AM | Link to this
Vick should have a second chance. I’m From ATL and was not a fan. The media is to blame and needs to stay out of peoples lives and business. He is a good player over all. To all the Vick hater out there Give the man a second chance you would want one. I’m Happy Vick has a shot at the NFL again if he throws it away the he missed out. Vick is only human. Good luck Vick!!!
By Max
July 29, 2009 12:48 AM | Link to this
Amazing Dr John Roush. You can take any subject in the world, in this case a sports topic and try to turn it into a political topic. Wow you must still be angry over the election huh? LOL I love it
By Disgruntled
July 29, 2009 12:12 AM | Link to this
Sure Mike, whatever you say. I seem to remember a certain “GM” of the Bengals bringing back a a troubled reciever by the name of Chris Henry!! I remember a comment that was made stating that Henry won’t be back, yet you go out and bring him back. Not believing you one bit Mikey!
By Coco
July 28, 2009 11:23 PM | Link to this
I think Michael Vick should not play football ever again-and I am glad the Bengals said no.He’s a sorry excuse for kids to look up to …I’m sure he’ll come out of this just fine-someone will pay this loser more than he’s worth.
By get real
July 28, 2009 8:48 PM | Link to this
Mike Brown doesn’t have a successful history of making the right decision. Mike Vick will be used in a wildcat situation somewhere and help a team to 2 or 3 extra wins. The Bengals are missing the boat again.
By Dr. John Roush
July 28, 2009 7:41 PM | Link to this
Let Obama find him a job, he dabbles in most everything.
By Justin Konicki
July 28, 2009 6:27 PM | Link to this
I think that Carson Palmer is the QB for Cincinnati and that Vick needs to be on a team such as one that needs a solid arm and has a high salary cap. He’s not a “thug”, he had just made a mistake, everyone makes them, the only difference is that his was a little bigger than everyone else’s. He deserves to be in the NFL, he didn’t break a league rule by dog-fighting. He broke a league rule by going to prison. He did his time and that’ that.
By Barry
July 28, 2009 6:20 PM | Link to this
when you consider the number of cows, pigs and chickens that I have killed in the last 44 years, what is a couple of dogs? it isn’t like he killed human babies or anything like that. that being said I hope he gets on a team and wins a bunch of games this year
By Jon
July 28, 2009 5:26 PM | Link to this
Once a thug, always a thug. Can’t change who you are no matter how many times he says differently. Don’t believe it.