Residents ignore watering ban; boil order possible
Monday, June 11, 2007
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BEAVERCREEK — Greene County residents are ignoring a watering ban issued Saturday, and county officials fear they will have to issue a boil alert by Monday night.
"If people did not water their lawns, there would not be a problem. We just can't keep up," said Karen Hawk, spokeswoman for the Greene County sanitary engineer.
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Water towers that serve Beavercreek and Sugarcreek Twp. are dangerously low because of high demand, and the system is at risk of losing pressure, she said. The Environmental Protection Agency requires a boil alert and water testing for systems that lose pressure because the water has a higher risk of contamination.
The watering ban was implemented Saturday evening for all residential and business water customers after a request for residents to water lawns on an even/odd schedule did not work, Hawk said.
The county will turn off any irrigation systems it finds running, she said.
Residents and businesses on wells are not affected by the ban.
The problem isn't a lack of water, but not enough pumping capacity, she said.
"We have not been able to keep water in the towers," Hawk said.
The county plans to open another well this fall, but has had a hard time keeping up with residential growth.
"We can approve 10,000 houses in the time it takes to dig and get one well on line," she said. "We are always playing catch up."
Contact this reporter at (937) 225-2212 or cmagan@coxohio.com.





Comments
By Beavercreeker
June 15, 2007 1:41 AM | Link to this
Simply put, it’s the county’s fault. The three communities under the water ban have experienced rapid growth since the early 1990’s. Beavercreek at 5% and Sugarcreek at 7%. With all the new housing going in it’s a no-brainer that more water would be needed. Beavercreek sits over one of the largest water reserves in the whole county. For goodness sake, Rt 35 through Beavercreek is bordered by a wetland zone! Yet adding wells has been lower on the priority list than it should have been. Why?
By Beavercreeker
June 15, 2007 1:37 AM | Link to this
Simply put, it’s the county’s fault. The three communities under the water ban have experienced rapid growth since the early 1990’s. Beavercreek at 5% and Sugarcreek at 7%. With all the new housing going in it’s a no-brainer that more water would be needed. Beavercreek sits over one of the largest water reserves in the whole county. For goodness sake, Rt 35 through Beavercreek is bordered by a wetland zone! Yet adding wells has been lower on the priority list than it should have been. Why?
By Water water everywhere - but not a drop to drink ..
June 13, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this
3 weeks without rain causes a “drought” .. wow .. luckily the 3rd world countries that rely on rains that come only every 3-5 YEARS don’t have our planners. 6 Words - ” Utility ” ” Abundant ” ” Resource ” ” Pay ” ” Service ” ” Deliver “. This is not about conservation its about lack of planning.
By Not so Greene
June 13, 2007 12:19 AM | Link to this
I’m very unhappy about the water situation in Greene County. Not only do I NOT want to watch my grass turn brown and ugly, but I’m heartbroken about the fact that I spent time and money on flowers and new bushes that I now have to let die. I truly enjoy keeping my yard and gardens nice looking. It’s not like we do this all year long - we only plant and water outdoors for four months of the year. My understanding is that it is not a water shortage that’s causing the problem, but a lack of pumping equipment to keep up with increased demand. I thought that the reason we PAY SO MUCH MORE for our water compared to surrounding communities, was because of rapid development in Greene County. Well apparently we aren’t paying enough to keep up with new development, or else the money is not being used for wisely. Now, I’m wondering why new electronic water meter readers were just installed in our neighborhood, instead of the money being used for new pumps. I’m also wondering why it took THREE men to install each meter reader. Is Greene County Sanitary Engineering going to be able to reduce the number of meter reading personnel, or is it going to take three men to read each meter? I also fee that Greene County SED has always had poor customer policies. They don’t give us enough time between when we get our bill and when the payment is due; they charge high late payment fees, and they will turn off your water at the drop of a hat. What a bunch of drips. I’m fed up and dried up in Greene County.
By Ruthannadanna
June 12, 2007 10:44 PM | Link to this
To all: yes, communication is the key. If city governments make the problem real, the constituents will follow. You have to be honest. Those of us transplants down south (GA, FL) who have had virtually no rain are paying 200 bucks a month for water…and that does not necessarily include irrigation. I think we watered our lawn with non-potable water a couple times and YIKES. Be thankful for the rain you have ‘cause there are those of us (transplants) who wish for the Miami Valley rains.
By wrightflyer
June 12, 2007 10:26 PM | Link to this
Despite all of this bickering about city/county officials, I still feel they did a poor job of informing the public. And don’t give that conserve more often crap, because, and this may come as a surprise to some of you, I do conserve water. I don’t let the faucet run when I shave or brush. We water maybe every 2-4 days and only where it’s needed. Quit stereotyping every homer in Beavercreek as a stuck-up water snob.
By Alchemy
June 12, 2007 7:16 PM | Link to this
The problem is pointing blame to elected officials and such. Sure they could have kept a better eye on the situation, but you also could have not watered your grass every day.
Stop ruining it for those who choose to try to keep this planet a little more inhabitable for our descendants. Quit competing with the neighbors on how well your lawn looks. Frankly, you are the only one that really cares how green it looks. I only care if you let it turn into an overgrown mess that looks like crap.
By Alchemy
June 12, 2007 7:12 PM | Link to this
What I do know is, it is stupid. Sure, if you have some flowers, using rain water, or shower water on them is a good idea. By the way, soap tends to nourish plants in the correct amounts. Sometimes fill a watering can out of the tap and give the plants a little help in bad times. The thing is, I live in Bellbrook. I was washing clothes last night for work, which were lighter in color. Now those clothes are mottled with rust stains. I am sure it will come out, but that is not the point.
By Alchemy
June 12, 2007 7:06 PM | Link to this
You know people…..it is easy to know the natural color of the grass in Ohio. Springtime, during our “rainy season” the grass is luch, green, thick…all of those nice things. Summertime is when the grass goes brown and brittle. Hmmm, notice the pattern? The grass comes back every year and keeps doing what it always does.
The problem is that people feel the need to have that green grass. I am not sure if this is some elitist ritual in which you try to show how rich you are or not.cont’d
By Alchemy
June 12, 2007 7:05 PM | Link to this
You know people…..it is easy to know the natural color of the grass in Ohio. Springtime, during our “rainy season” the grass is luch, green, thick…all of those nice things. Summertime is when the grass goes brown and brittle. Hmmm, notice the pattern? The grass comes back every year and keeps doing what it always does.
The problem is that people feel the need to have that green grass. I am not sure if this is some elitist ritual in which you try to show how rich you are or not.cont’d
By Flanders
June 12, 2007 6:24 PM | Link to this
Everyone taking this issue out on elected officials does not understand the situation. Every 3 years or so, we experience droughtlike conditions; however, this is the worst I’ve recalled in years. The County’s pumps normally can handle demand. I doubt many of you would approve the burdening cost of additional pumps/larger pumps if you realized the County didn’t normally need them.
By D
June 12, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this
I agree with MeToo, john and fenwah…..that the city and it’s engineering staff should be the ones responsible for the lack of water pressure in Beavercreek. They continue to build, build, build but cannot keep up with the pressure, so everyone using water at the same time makes it look as though the water levels are low when actually it’s just the water pressure. New water tower in October in B’creek? Shouldn’t that tower have been put in BEFORE the Greene, and all this new housing???
By Buzz
June 12, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this
This is all George Bush and Bill Clinton’s fault!
By Griffin
June 12, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this
OK, so I am admittedly a tree-hugger from Yellow Springs. I installed two rain barrels at our ‘new-to-us’ home this weekend. After I move our laundry room, I am installing a tank for the grey water under our deck. All of this will cost me about $300 dollars and supply me with FREE water to water all of my plants while helping to take a load off of our strained drainage systems. We live in Greene. Let’s start thinking green.
By MS
June 12, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this
Everyone will be sorry when they don’t have water to take a bath. Everyone needs to conserve water. I conserve water even when there is no problem.You can water your lawns with buckets of water collected from your shower, dishwashing, etc. Get real people!We are all spoiled! We have destroyed the Earth and now we are paying for it.
By MS
June 12, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this
Everyone will be sorry when they don’t have water to take a bath. Everyone needs to conserve water. I conserve water even when there is no problem.You can water your lawns with buckets of water collected from your shower, dishwashing, etc. Get real people!We are all spoiled! We have destroyed the Earth and now we are paying for it.
By Marie
June 12, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this
OK…Let’s all take a DEEP breath…It is NOT our fault that the water is unavailable at this time to the City of Beavercreek. Let’s face it …we could find a million reasons why we should/could change our conservation habits. This problem has nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats or high/low income communities. It IS the City of Beavercreek’s elected officials that need to STOP this madness. We need to elect NEW PEOPLE that do not find it politically incorrect to do THE RIGHT THING!!
By whocares
June 12, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this
well we must have no even have known about the ban or whatever, because we just emptied our pool and filled it back up with new watere for this summer…ha, oops
By RoadRager
June 12, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this
Ah.. Conservative Green… Thats kinda like “Bi-Polar”…. or “Military Intelligence”? AAACCCKKKK!!! Conservative Green is People!!! Or maybe that was Soylent Green… Same difference…
By RoadRager
June 12, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this
Phew!… I thought he’d never leave… See what he did… He got me all indignant, when that is supposed to be MY JOB of getting people pissed off (Browse around other blogs for examples :) ) Difference being I try to do it without telling people to put particular parts of their body on to particular parts of mine… Well… At least not in as crass a manor.
By painfultruth
June 12, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this
To Conservative Green. I like my half-acre in the southern suburbs. I have nice green grass, and plenty of flowers. What’s it like where you live, bare dirt, broken glass and crack vials? How nice for you! It’s funny the complainers always seem to have nothing. Jealousy seems a problem for you, doesn’t it?
By MeToo
June 12, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this
RE: By jr June 12, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this we are all taking about lawns i haven’t heard anyone talking about all the pools that got filled? im sure that is where most of the water went they just haven’t been able to catch back up from that.
There is no ban on filling our pools. That’s why I’m filling up my pool and watering my grass from there. That’s legal right? HAHA!
By painfultruth
June 12, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this
Plain truth is just jealous of all the successful people. Obviously, neither high school or college was in his life-plan. Now, all he can do is complain about others that actually made something of themselves. How pathetic. He doesn’t understand that there ARE some people better than others! He needs to call Jerry Springer, as he’s a FINE candidate for the 1-800-Jerry crowd!
By Conservative Green
June 12, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this
You poor, petty, suburban kings reigning loud over your postage stamp-sized piece of nothing. When faced with a way to cooperatively save yourselves or face unwanted consequences, you opt to blame big brother telling you what to do. You probably also consider yourselves die-hard conservatives. How very nice to twist a philosophy of personal responsibility and conservation and equate it to your own personal greed and laziness at the expense of your neighbors. You are ruining America.
By jr
June 12, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this
we are all taking about lawns i haven’t heard anyone talking about all the pools that got filled? im sure that is where most of the water went they just haven’t been able to catch back up from that.
By the plain truth
June 12, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this
Alright kids it doesn’e seem like we are having fun anymore so I’ll grant your wish and bid you farewell. Before I go just a couple things 1. To the hater- Witty as always. I just believe you may have my wife mixed up with your mother with the traffic and and all. Road Rager- Clever devil you. Although it would be biggest Dumbass on the blog not in the blog. (how do you get in the blog?) Nice try dumbass. Adios!!!!!
By to plain truth
June 12, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this
to Plain Truth:
you are making this way too easy…. it is obvious that you a jealous b***h who hates anyone that has made more of their life other than being on workers comp all your life. I’m sure you have an oval driveway in front of your trailer with all the traffic from your wife…hopefully now we can stay on topic and solve the water issues of greene county. and finally the majority of creek residents know who are parents are…do you? don’t be a hater.
By RoadRager
June 12, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this
Ah Ha!! Now we have it.. The polls are closed and the results are in… And the winner of the Ignorant-White Trash-3rd Grade Vocabulary-Award is…. !!the plain truth !! (applause).. Along with this prestigeous award you also get a years suplly of Spam & Eggs and Propane refills for your trailer… Thanks you for playing and remember… You can’t win if you don’t play… We’ll see you next time on, “Who is the Biggest Dumbass in the Blog”
By Dry here to
June 12, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this
Just do like butler County has done. the more water you use the higher your bill. You should see the shock water waster got when they opened their water bills and they where $300 and up. I am sure they will find the shut off valve to the auto sprinkler then. Here in my area we have had even less rain. My rain gauge in my yard has had less then an inch since March. I have a very brown yard. I worry about a brush fire.
By RoadRager
June 12, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this
TO Plain Truth and the likes… Why are you even in this conversation , They arent talking about East 5th Street water supplies… I am detecting a bit of envy in your incoherent ramblings. Everyone has a stick in thier butt… blah blah blah. Yeah there are some like that but there are the likes in Oakwood (but why?) and Centerville as well… Unless you live in Beavercreek or Bellbrook or one of the affected areas, you need to just close your envious septic-tank suck-hole… You Tool…
By LS
June 12, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this
“The plain truth,” Are you really interested in this topic or are you just here to get off by insulting other posters and inflaming people from other cities? You are rude, offensive and need to get a life. Go sit in a corner and grow up!
By michael
June 12, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this
I see that it is more important to have a green lawn so you can mow it more often than it is to have water available for drinking or fire fighting. So Greene County residents clearly deserve to have to boil their water and watch their houses burn down. And Beavercreek is run by idiots to sell them water when they could end up with the same problem.
By LS
June 12, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this
Sam, while water evaporates and returns as rain, the majority ends up as seawater. Not very useful, considering it’s toxic to humans. Much of the water we actually ARE using comes from natural aquifers that have existed for millions of years. We are draining them at an alarming rate & the water won’t be replaceable in our lifetime. Result? We’ll rely more on ground (rain) water. Next, ponds, streams, rivers and lakes will go, because Americans are wasteful & unwilling to be inconvenienced
By MeToo
June 12, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this
By fenwah
June 12, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this
BigEd…on your comment about the businesses on Grange Hall / Research Blvd. Those areas use wells for their outside watering…not city water. I used to lease some office space in that area and one of my questions was if I had to pay for the watering of the grass outside my office. It was all from a well. “
FYI, the County is also asking those on well systems to conserve as well. I would think this includes watering lawns.
By CLJ
June 12, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this
Thank you Cowboy about the interesting information about Xeriscaping! I wasn’t aware of it! Hmmm…maybe The Beavercreek City Council needs to seriously consider environement-friendly alterantives such as this one for the future—as really all of us Americans need to do! Thanks for sharing, and Greene County Sanitary Engineering, check out the weblink from Wikipedia on xeriscaping! I’d be willing to try it! CLJ (and I live in Beavercreek)
By fenwah
June 12, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this
BigEd…on your comment about the businesses on Grange Hall / Research Blvd. Those areas use wells for their outside watering…not city water. I used to lease some office space in that area and one of my questions was if I had to pay for the watering of the grass outside my office. It was all from a well.
By KG
June 12, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this
Put the Republicans and Democrats aside and look at ‘the people’ We already know the problem, quit your B**g and find a solution. You’re all whining but how many of you have volunteered your time to work on committees or attend the necessary meetings. No one wants to get involved until ‘crunch time’ then everyone has an opinion, usually negative. Quit whining and get involved, positivley. Plan for the futue.
By fenwah
June 12, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this
The Beavercreek Golf Club would be bankrupt if they used city water to water their golf course. They use wells…which have no effect on the city water… and the water in the well is virtually free (just have to pay for the electricity to pump the water out of the well).
By fenwah
June 12, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this
A Greene County sanitary engineer shut off all of our irrigation systems last night in our neighborhood. Everyone I talked to seemed to be fine with the water restriction.
I agree with many of the posters here though. Beavercreek continues to build a plethoria of houses, condos, and apartments along with all the new businesses surrounding those areas. The planning and zoning commission needs to communicate with the sanitary engineering people better so this problem doesn’t happen again.
By Suzy
June 12, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this
Cutting lawns at a higher length will promote a deeper root system and requuire less water as well. There are ways to use the resources we have through better land husbandry. We live in a disposable society, time to realize we do not have limitless resources.There is a difference between renewable and limitless. Better management from EVERYONE will erradicate many of the shortages we face now.
By Suzy
June 12, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this
There are many ways to water your lawn without breaking the bank ..so to speak. Drip hoses are an excellent alternative to a sprinkler, the sprinkler wastes water to evaporation, drip hoses do not.along with the use of mulch can save many beds. Used water for dishes, laundry and showers could be reused for agriculture purposes, you may need to check with city ordinances before putting a recycling system in use.Some car washes use a recycling system.
By MeToo
June 12, 2007 9:09 AM | Link to this
If Greene County and City of Beavercreek officials knew of the impending water crisis, why didn’t they even go to the minimal trouble of notifying the local Beavercreek News of the water restrictions and possible ban? I re-read the papers for last Friday and Saturday to see if I missed something and, you guessed it, NOTHING. Somebody was incompetent and dropped the ball and now we residents are being accused of being selfish and “ignoring” the ban! Whose job was it to notify us? Fire ‘em!
By john
June 12, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this
I have lived in Beavercreek for 32 years. Every summer in the 1980’s there was a watering ban. The city claimed it needed funding for more wells. In the 1990’s the problem seemed to be cleared up. Why has it returned? We are not going throug a long term drought. The Beavercreek mall and the Green are consuming more water than any lawns in Beavercreek. Just think how many resturants us water to wash dishes, cook and serve beverages. They should be funding new water resources for the city.
By MeToo
June 12, 2007 8:44 AM | Link to this
I don’t have a problem following a ban, but I believe this is far more about the overloading of the County’s water systems all of the new developments in Beavercreek. Our “planners” are not planning. Our “council” is not counselling. The decision makers are doing what fits best in their own wallets to the detriment of all Beavercreek and Beavercreek Township residents. There are only a couple of people on our current council with the strength to stand up to the good ole boys and say ENOUGH!
By to Narko
June 12, 2007 8:33 AM | Link to this
to: Narko
the only difference between water usage in b-creek and the “inner city” is that the inner city steals the hydrants for scrap where us in b-creek prefer to leave them for the fireman. also you don’t see too many hydrants opened up in b-creek to bathing purposes….
then again, it could just be a republican thing.. stick to teaching the drunken hag McLin on how to read…must be a democrat thing huh narko?????? water vs. drunken hag mayor….???/
By Shawn
June 12, 2007 8:24 AM | Link to this
I played 9 holes last night at Beavercreek Golf Club and at 9 p.m. their sprinklers came on.
By CJ
June 12, 2007 8:02 AM | Link to this
Anyone have any suggestions for those of us with new lawns what to do so we don’t lose them. We have already lost part if it last year.
By Dan
June 12, 2007 8:00 AM | Link to this
By painfultruth
June 11, 2007 7:26 AM | Link to this
Michael, some residents actually take pride in home ownership and like to maintain their property. I suppose you never wash your car as it will be cleaner after a rain. Do you feel the same about taking a shower, or will you get cleaner after it rains?
Painfultruth, What is more important to you, a pretty lawn or human life? Your debate with Michael holds no water. (Pun intended)
By CJ
June 12, 2007 7:51 AM | Link to this
According to what I just read the ban is also on commercial properties.
By Dan
June 12, 2007 7:48 AM | Link to this
By tonya
June 11, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this
well, Im gonna continue watering my flowers and lawn anyways. I spent too much money on stuff this year. They are gonna have to catch me first!!
It is THIS kind of attitude that will make the problem worse! I hope they DO catch you and others like you. What would do my heart good is that while your lawn and landscaping flourish, YOU and your cohorts end up dehydrated and in the hospital. It would serve you right!
By Chuck
June 12, 2007 7:39 AM | Link to this
Big Ed. Sir did you miss the ‘residential’ part of the ban. Republicans rarely restrict themselves. We seem to love to use convienient definitions. Example, a roadside improvised bomb is a ‘terrorist’ weapon, where 5 or 6 thousand nukes are not.
By Chuck
June 12, 2007 7:33 AM | Link to this
The buffalo were allowed to be slaughtered in their millions in order to “break the economy of the plains indian”, which the Federal Govt wanted. The same human rights crusaders that put the Conferderacy to the torch. This country isn’t big on the truth. Beavercreek needs to be sure that they can handle new developement BEFORE developing.I have a private well, I will water my vegetables as I need to.
By Big Ed
June 12, 2007 7:30 AM | Link to this
I drove by the office complex at Grange Hall road and Research Blvd. last night and the sprinklers were all on. If the city isn’t enforcing the bans for the big commercial users, why do they expect the common homeowners to pay attention?
By Beavercreek Resident
June 12, 2007 7:18 AM | Link to this
One thing to keep in mind is that not all homes in Beavercreek are on city water. Some homes are like mine - we use city water inside the house and we have the well hooked up for outside use so not everyone is breaking the ban. After saying that - I’m sure the inspectors know what areas are strickly on city water and hopefully will enforce it in those areas and check on areas that have wells. I have no problem with them asking me if I’m using well water.
By painfultruth
June 12, 2007 7:18 AM | Link to this
Get the facts straight. Beavercreek made little announcement of the watering ban. Why wasn’t this all over the news on Sunday if it was such a problem? Beavercreek wanted expansion and development, which they have had over the past few years. Now, it’s the fault of “homeowners” because there isn’t enough pumping capacity? And you people want the government to provide your health care? Typical government employee response and decision making are the problem, not people watering their lawns!
By CJ
June 12, 2007 7:04 AM | Link to this
My neighbor has been watering his lawn non stop for two days what are the fines etc and where are the people to regulate the new ban. If everyone had just paid attention to the odd/even we would not be in this situation.
By Beavercreek Resident
June 12, 2007 6:14 AM | Link to this
Beavercreek needs to develop better planning on future developments so this problem will not happen again. My question is - how is the ban being enforced and if fines are imposed where does that money go. To be honest I think if a home or business catches on fire and is unable to be put out due to this situation any homeowner fined for water use during the time of the fire should be held accountable.
By Ace
June 12, 2007 5:47 AM | Link to this
We humans are wasteful creatures by nature. Let’s go back two hundred years. We hunted the Buffalo till their numbers are now in the few thousands. We took land from a people that knew how to treat this planet with respect. We are now wasting water to make our lawns look pretty, and we also waste gasoline by being so “LAZY” that we do not want to get our of our cars to bank, order food from places like McDonalds, etc.. We need to cut back on our wasteful habits, or the will be nothing left.
By William
June 12, 2007 5:21 AM | Link to this
Greene county officials just don’t know how to plan anything now they are taking water away from the Belbrook community to cover themselves. Yet new housing developments continue and golf courses and govt buildings continue to have greene grass when the people who live here have to go through the ban, which was poorly advertised.
By Samson
June 12, 2007 5:15 AM | Link to this
Some lawns in the restricted areas may be green, while our water is brown in Bellbrook, just like our lawn. The brown water is due to the tap-in to keep the water flowing in Beavercreek, causing us to have to boil our water to keep lawns green. Turning off the water while you brush your teeth and shave can save lots of water, but it does take effort.
By JC
June 12, 2007 3:48 AM | Link to this
I also agree that Greene County should have seen this coming with all of the building that they are permitting. Painfulthruth/PJ: It will really suck when you can’t use the toilet at your house, but, hey, at least the pride you took in your yard will show! We aren’t watering our lawn, so, no, we haven’t mowed because that would lead to an ugly dead lawn. Chuck: I’m Republican, my house was built in 1957, I get no more tax breaks than you. Therefore, I don’t get your point.
By wrightflyer
June 11, 2007 11:54 PM | Link to this
That’s what I read in the DDN (sorry I can’t give you a date. I would if I could). And yes, I realize they have a sewage problem. And no, I (as a county resident) don’t want to pay for their new system. Also, the developers do live here. Oberer and Bob Mills (all those offices near the mall) own huge homes in the city.
By hall
June 11, 2007 11:22 PM | Link to this
wrightflyer: Check with Sugarcreek Twp officials. They did stop development due to infrastructure problems, specifically lack of capacity with their sewer systems.
By Chuck
June 11, 2007 11:20 PM | Link to this
Now is past the time when all the Republican types with the big tax breaks, that keep building and building to make their fortunes bigger should paying for new wells, storage tanks, and sewage improvements and all other entitlements made necessary by their building. Bet those developers live elsewhere.
By Chuck
June 11, 2007 11:19 PM | Link to this
Now is past the time when all the Republican types with the big tax breaks, that keep building and building to make their fortunes bigger should paying for new wells, storage tanks, and sewage improvements and all other entitlements made necessary by their building. Bet those developers live elsewhere.
By Mike
June 11, 2007 8:41 PM | Link to this
Wow! The fact that officials announced a watering ban on Saturday night speaks volumes about their planning capabilities, or lack thereof. Why would anyone believe they’re going to reach enough people to decrease significantly the number of lawns being watered with an announcement at that time? If these “officials” couldn’t see this coming and communicate the issue more effectively than this, how can we ever trust them to take a long view for infrastructure development? Time for new leadership
By JGL
June 11, 2007 8:09 PM | Link to this
The little green truck (with the little green men?) from Greene County Sanitary Engineering just passed by my house…on the prowl…
By wrightflyer
June 11, 2007 7:56 PM | Link to this
That’s why we invested in a filter. We used to live on well water, but when we moved, the supplier changed. Now I wonder if I can rely on that supplier.
Also, under greene county’s website, the ban information can be found under the sanitary engineering dept. link. Funny how that works, it being there and not under soil and water conservation.
By RoadRager
June 11, 2007 7:45 PM | Link to this
Speaking of Levys, I live in Beavercreek and my tap water smells like it came right out of a LEVY!!!
By wrightflyer
June 11, 2007 7:32 PM | Link to this
RoadRager, first, Sugarcreek put a hold on developments to rewrite their zoning codes, not because of infrastructure problems.
Otherwise, I’d give both our county and city officials an F for failing to see this coming. Is there even a reason we have heads to these departments if city leaders won’t listen to what they are saying? Then there’s what others have already said about the notices. I didn’t hear of the odd/even restrictions until Thur. and the ban until Sunday and only throughDDN
By wrightflyer
June 11, 2007 7:31 PM | Link to this
RoadRager, first, Sugarcreek put a hold on developments to rewrite their zoning codes, not because of infrastructure problems.
Otherwise, I’d give both our county and city officials an F for failing to see this coming. Is there even a reason we have heads to these departments if city leaders won’t listen to what they are saying? Then there’s what others have already said about the notices. I didn’t hear of the odd/even restrictions until Thur. and the ban until Sunday and only throughDDN
By will I. water
June 11, 2007 7:10 PM | Link to this
Let me guess…..next we need a HUGE and I mean ENORMOUS levy to cover this………and don’t forget we MUST instate an income tax so that we can hire another 100 or so employees to administrate the HUGH and ENORMOUS taxes it will take to fix this problem that dropped out of the sky with no warning lol
By anonymous
June 11, 2007 7:04 PM | Link to this
I agree that Greene County did not do a great job letting people know about the restrictions. I just found out about the ban from the DDN web site. I didn’t even know about the odd/even schedule from a few weeks ago at all!! I’ve seen several people in my neighborhood watering their lawns today, and I really think it’s because they don’t know about the ban! If you DO know about it, please don’t water your lawn! You’ll force all of us to suffer from your selfishness. A big problem in our society!
By Chuck
June 11, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this
I love all the compliants about new subdivisions out there in Beavercreek… How many complaining on here live in homes less than 10 years old and are contributing to the problem themselves with their nice cookie cutter neighborhoods?
By Big Ed
June 11, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this
Yep, all the development that the Beavercreek City Council squandered our tax dollars on is leading to water problems. That’s a surprise. Unfortunately, the city and planning commisions never saw a development that they didn’t like.
By Big Ed
June 11, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this
Yep, all the development that the Beavercreek City Council squandered our tax dollars on is leading to water problems. That’s a surprise. Unfortunately, the city and planning commisions never saw a development that they didn’t like.
By MeToo
June 11, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this
RE: By narko
June 11, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this
“If this were happening in, oh, Dayton, everyone in Beavercreek would be talking about how those “inner city” people can’t follow rules. What’s up with the suburban Republicans deciding they don’t have to follow rules if they don’t want to?”
Last time I checked, Narko, there was not a big push for huge developments in Dayton, lmbo! Get real! This is less about following rules and more about our council selling out!
By narko
June 11, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this
If this were happening in, oh, Dayton, everyone in Beavercreek would be talking about how those “inner city” people can’t follow rules.
What’s up with the suburban Republicans deciding they don’t have to follow rules if they don’t want to?
By RoadRager
June 11, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this
AMEN!!! Bellbrook has currently put permits for developments on hold to look at the situation so as to assure that further development stays within the scope of the vision for the area - Bevercreek needs to take notes and SHUT IT DOWN!!! I was talking with one of the Sanitary Engineering people last year and they were telling me the mess that that new development off of county line across from reynolds & reynolds caused on the sewage system and the water pressure for the neighborhoods up the way
By Cowboy
June 11, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this
Come on people, move out West to Arizona, Utah, Nevada; and talk about watering restrictions. Many famlies on city water often times pay $300 to $450 per month for water. With the current growth and projected development in Ohio you all need to start using more “Xeriscaping” See the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeriscaping
By MeToo
June 11, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this
I agree with the posts that we should follow the ban. It is just grass, after all. My main concern is our lack of elected leadership who continually fail to look out for the best interests of the Beavercreek citizens. This is just another case in point!
By missy
June 11, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this
First, I think everyone should obey the ban simply b/c its just for lawn watering and is not a NEED. HOWEVER, its ridiculous that TAX PAYERS dont have access to water. Read the article above…it states “The problem isn’t a lack of water, but not enough pumping capacity”. That is absolutely ridiculous!! Instead of spending time approving the overloading of the Beavercreek community with yet another housing development, how about taking a second to expand the pump on the water tower!!ABSURD!!
By mm
June 11, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this
Officials who have allowed so many new houses and businesses to be built without the infrastructure neccesary should be held accountable. In the mean time, for the health and saftey of the community, we should still stick to the ban. I live in Greene County, but not in an affected area(by the ban). Yesterday was the first time we have watered our lawn this year. We know that there is a drought so we conserve water.
By deuce
June 11, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this
Too many people worry about their lawns. What if we go another few months with minimal rain fall? You should be worried about being able to have water to drink, shower, flush a toilet, and wash clothes. Conserve now while you have it. It may not be there later in the summer.
By deuce
June 11, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this
Too many people worry about their lawns. What if we go another few months with minimal rain fall? You should be worried about being able to have water to drink, shower, flush a toilet, and wash clothes. Conserve now while you have it. It may not be there later in the summer.
By mayville24
June 11, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this
I think one or two more massive sub-division developments will fix the problem.
By Jason
June 11, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this
Those of you who are mad a businesses and golf courses and government buildings, learn your facts. Most businesses, golf courses and government buildings use reclaimed water, which is water that is in a holding pond or pumped from the ground to water their grass. I mean honestly if a golf course used city water, do you think it would even have the money to water their whole course for 1 week, let alone a whole season. Wise up people!!!!
By JL
June 11, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this
Why is it that only the people of green county didn’t hear about the water ban. Sounds like someone is lying, but I guess whatever it takes to water the lawn is okay.
By BeavercreekDiane
June 11, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this
The first I heard of the ban was from this story — there needs to be a better way to communicate the water issues! I don’t normally water my grass (less mowing and less wasted water) during the summer and only occasionally water freshly planted landscape plants or those that are overly stressed due to drought. Otherwise, I think we need to think of the bigger picture of drinking water and our rapidly shrinking potable water. Businesses should be held accountable esp. golf courses!
By creekresz
June 11, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this
It is such a simple task to just stop watering your lawns for a couple days while they try to build the water supply back up. It is not like the band is forever. I luckily have a well at my home and we are even conserving water. Those of you who are on city water and are not following the ban, I am going to laugh when your water gets shut off.
By MeToo
June 11, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this
Someone fell asleep at the switch and failed to notice that the water supply was being seriously overused.Instead of admitting their mistake and asking for cooperation, the City/County is blaming the users and accusing them of being uncooperative and “ignoring” the bans. I neard nothing about the supposed ban until Sunday afternoon. The good news is while the County cant support the City of Beavercreek’s water usage NOW, our wise Council continues to approve massive developments.One word: RECALL
By tonya
June 11, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this
well, Im gonna continue watering my flowers and lawn anyways. I spent too much money on stuff this year. They are gonna have to catch me first!!
By greengrass
June 11, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this
How do they expect me to Boil enough water, to water my lawn? Slow down folk’s, this could be a lot of work.
By Me
June 11, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this
I just went home for lunch and gee, what do you know? On Dayton-Xenia Road, THREE houses blatently watering their lawns, one of which was a business (businesses were supposedly cut off Friday night!!). By only restricting watering rights of those with irrigation systems, the County has accomplished a big fat nothing. Make the odd/even usage mandatory and require ALL city water users to follow it.
By Me
June 11, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this
I just went home for lunch and gee, what do you know? On Dayton-Xenia Road, THREE houses blatently watering their lawns, one of which was a business (businesses were supposedly cut off Friday night!!). By only restricting watering rights of those with irrigation systems, the County has accomplished a big fat nothing. Make the odd/even usage mandatory and require ALL city water users to follow it.
By john
June 11, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this
Greene County! Very poor effort last week to inform the community of water restrictions. Now you want to play hardball with poor choice of comments to the press/news.
Question for Greene County officials, what have you learned to improve your communication/notification process?
BTW, I have lived in the Western Region of the USA. Keeping some moisture in your yard is key fire prevention step.
By JM
June 11, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this
Sam- Yes, theoretically the water supply may be infinite, but the fact is that around 1% of the water is fresh and not salt or locked in polar ice caps. More and more people go without clean drinking water each day, and our wasteful ways only encourage this trend. We are generally short-sighted and motivated by $$, I have to agree wholeheartedly with those commenting on the booming growth in Greene County and the surrounding areas. Also, would love to see the science of watering more=rain??
By deputy dog
June 11, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this
there is no ordiance or state law preventing you from using water you own, you bought it and own it once delivered to your home
no way to enforce this VOLUNTARY BAN…HENCE THE WORD VOLUNTARY
sorry karen
By DMarie
June 11, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this
OK Leaders of Beavercreek…Enough is Enough…Why not just stick a thousand more homes and bussiness’s into the town? Then, we can permanently turn off YOUR water. That may help the city—that is, if you are looking for real solutions.
By Ds
June 11, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this
hey people it’s okay the rains will come…I spent all my life in southern california and arizona we were always under some sort of watering restrictions…but as far as greene county goes stop building more homes and buisnesses if you can’t handle the supply and demand now what makes you think you can at a later date…it’s only been a few week with no rain what will you do if we go more then two months…