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Strippers say they have enough signatures to block no-touch law

Group wants ballot vote on measure that would limit club hours, institute no-touch rule.

Comment: Should the no-touch law be on the ballot?

By Laura A. Bischoff

Staff Writer

Tuesday, August 14, 2007

COLUMBUS — Dancers for Democracy has enough petition signatures to at least temporarily block enforcement of an anti-adult business law scheduled to take effect Sept. 4, said Sandy Theis, the group's spokeswoman.

The group has collected 248,673 signatures as of Monday, which is slightly more than the required 241,366 valid voter signatures. They plan to continue collecting signatures for several weeks since often a high percentage of petition signatures are ruled invalid.

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If 241,366 signatures are deemed valid by the county boards of elections, voters will be asked Nov. 6 whether to repeal the law.

"The people of Ohio should have the right to vote on this,'' said Bianca Tate, a dancer at Larry Flynt's Hustler Club in Cleveland. "The other side is trying to keep this off of the ballot. If this is such a great law, why are they so afraid to put it before the people?''

The law would force strip clubs, adult bookstores, peep shows and other adult entertainment venues to close between midnight and 6 a.m. Those with liquor licenses could stay open until last call, but nudity would be banned after midnight. Partial nudity would be allowed, but dancers would have to conform to the existing state law by wearing at least G-strings and pasties. It also institutes a no-touch rule between patrons and nude or partially nude dancers.

Contact this reporter at (614)

224-1624 or lbischoff@coxohio.com.

Comment: Should the no-touch law be on the ballot?

Comments

By linda purcell

September 2, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

Strippers pron people prostitues.A “Lap dance” is Dry Fu.ing is still SEX.Watching someone haveing SEX with themselves is called masterbating and this is happening in a public place, the VIP area is a place to do prostitution business.What a world when we can have sex anytime anyplace and call it entertainment not SEX.I personnaly think these places should have a fee to entre and you can get to fu.k anyone of these people without having to pay again.Our bars are brothels so tax them as such.

By linda purcell

September 2, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this

“Circus Act” should be taken out of the hands of the liquor commission.Tax payers should have nothing to do with this; No liquor licenses,”Porn Strip Club”in all ads,not allowed with in a 20klm radius of any form of housing.”Where their is partly or full nudiety no liquor license”.Tax dancers and post their pictures and the men who go to these places for health reasons on a web site for the public to go to.Government approved photo ID only of the people whom go to these places. I have more ideas

By Concerned Patron

August 26, 2007 10:49 PM | Link to this

Ok I myself signed the petition as soon s it was started as did a few friends of mine. It is underhanded bullshit politics that is ruining our country not strip clubs. if you think about things clearly for a moment you will see that the clubs benefit our economy greatly with employment for one and there are several otherthings they do to better it. all im saying is we need to stop being told what our freedoms are and being controlled we should be the ones to decide if we want a lap dance or not

By Todd

August 18, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

It appears quite obvious that Shannon—-and her allies at the CCV—-want to impose their personal interpretations of Scripture on the rest of us.

Shannon makes a big deal of pointing out that: “My husband is the only person who ever got my lap dance.” My response: Good for you. I have no desire to dictate your sex life according to my standards, so please stay out of mine. As long as only consenting adults are involved, commercial forms of sexuality are nobody’s business.

By Eric

August 18, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

Living in the land of the free eh? Where now a glimps of nudity which is in a controlled enviornment and allowed by the customers and employees is trying to be contained by the goverment. What next?!? Be strickened to what we can and cannot eat, where we can and cant go. Its just terrible that you almost can’t do anything anymore without breaking the law. Just another way for the state or government to get into our pockets. NO taxes arent enough, gas prices arent enough just more laws!

By Rick Peyton

August 17, 2007 12:58 AM | Link to this

It is just amazing how stupid people sound when they try to write about things they know absolutely nothing about. A couple towards the end really got my attention. The ones from Jackie and Shannon. Jackie first. You have got to be a very uneducated person to think that a strip club or any bar for that matter does not pay taxes. They in fact pay quite a bit in taxes and have to keep excellent records because of the government regulations with the sale of alcohol. Secondly, if a girl works in a club she will not need to be welfare. Thirdly, as long as the girl is a good parent and provides for the child it should not matter what kind of profession she has. Now Shannon. You think that someone who sells drugs, is a prostitute, or strips is raised that way? You think parents teach that? I don’t recall hearing about it in high school with my guidance counselor. Didn’t see it in a course catalog at college. People choose to do these things of their own accord. As adults that is their choice and none of your business. If your niece wants to strip, it is not your business. It is not your life. I read all these posts and agree with main theme. That being that the government has no right to regulate what kind of morals I should have. That a small group of religious zealots don’t speak for me and in no way should be able to decide what I am able to do with my time, my money, or my life.

By @Old Timer

August 16, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this

In addition a Democracy holds no protection over an indivdual’s rights. A simple majority vote of 50%+1 could say in fact that you are required to have one lap dance a month, and you have no right to refuse because you have no individual rights. A republic (the US) grants you the protection of certain individual rights that no matter what laws are passed, cannot be infringed upon.

By @Old Timer

August 16, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

“a lot of the posters missed their Government 101 classes in high school. In a Democracy people don’t get to vote on every law they don’t like. That’s anarchy. In a Democracy you elect representatives to vote in your stead.”

I might be mistaken, but what I learned is that a Democracy IS when each person get’s the right to vote on each issue if they want to. If you elect representatives it’s called a Repulic. The US is a Republic, not a Democracy.

By Shannon

August 16, 2007 12:07 AM | Link to this

Bob 540: My niece was not raised to sell drugs, engage in prostitution, nor strip. She’s intrigued by the love of easy money. I never had to strip to get a college degree. In fact, I had student loans that I payed for 10 years after graduating from college. What did I learn from this? Responsibility. My husband is the only person who ever got my lap dance.

By Don

August 15, 2007 6:42 PM | Link to this

Everyone relax, once this issue gets on the ballot, its going to get destroyed. The majority will vote against it based on the fact that its backed by a few morons that are trying to push their values and beliefs on others. Thats why the CCV doesn’t want it on the ballot, because they know it will lose. I saw the same type of simple minded idiots try the same thing in Florida, it didn’t need to be put to a vote because a circuit court judge laughed at it and threw it out. So enjoy the lap dances

By Bob540

August 15, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

Shannon: Would you rather have your niece selling drugs or engaging in prostitution rather than stripping? Would you prefer that women not strip and: NOT afford college, NOT provide for their children, and instead be on welfare rolls? Unlike those other activities, stripping is legal, no diseases are spread, the participants are unlikely to be killed from the activity, and the surrounding community is unharmed. Some “evil”!

By jackie

August 15, 2007 3:34 AM | Link to this

i think the clubs should be shut down.they dont pay taxes and most of them gets welfare and i dont think kids should be rised by a parent that strips.

By Shannon

August 14, 2007 11:09 PM | Link to this

To those who have decided to get an education and raise a family the old fashioned way…way to go!! And to those who haven’t…guess you have to do what you have to do. But when it’s MY niece out there working at those clubs, I will fight with all my might to have them closed down. To the dancers…look twice at your precious child that someone else tucks into bed tonight and remember these days when she makes the same choices as you.

By Jeremy

August 14, 2007 10:42 PM | Link to this

In the great words of Auggie Smith- “I don’t like Bed Bath and Beyond, I don’t like what goes on there, so you know what? I DON’T GO I don’t stand outside with a picket sign saying “NO MORE BATH BEADS!” See how foolish it sounds trying to tell people what they choose to do is wrong! I’m really not liberal or conservative I just don’t want the government telling me what is best for me. The last time a Government did that MILLIONS died in “concentration camps” We are headed that way folks!

By Brian

August 14, 2007 10:23 PM | Link to this

Pete said,”Without the smoking ban I have no choice but to breathe in your nasty smoke”

You know, it’s pathetically ignorant people like you who are so damn dangerous to this country and our freedoms. So, because you dont smoke, and you “have no choice”, you’d rather have the government legislate private businesses. Here’s an idea;DONT GO INTO A PLACE FULL OF SMOKE if you dont like it. You are quite free to make that choice rather than support the government taking away more of our rights.

By Brian

August 14, 2007 10:19 PM | Link to this

“The government should not be allowed to dictate morality. “

Amen, AND it is NOT the Government’s function to dictate to PRIVATE business owners how they can run their business. This group, CCV, is just another far right-wing religious group, who wants to tell you how to think and act, based on what they believe. Dont buy it. Call your congressmen and tell them to stay the hell out of the lives of private business owners.

By Rob

August 14, 2007 9:57 PM | Link to this

James,

So, it’s a free country as long as others “shut up or leave”? I love the irony of your statement.

By James

August 14, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

“It’s a free country. SHUT UP or leave, ristricting rights of freedom is communism.”

By RoadRager

August 14, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

Amen Salley… You wanna give way to the Heathens by stripping “One Nation Under God” from the Pledge of Allegence, than strip the “@ss in Your Groin” from the strip clubs… T*t-4-Tat… No pun intended

By Sally

August 14, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this

If this state can pass a no smoking law, take the pledge of allegence out of the school’s, seat belt law. which is crazy because you don’t have to wear a helment while riding a motorcycle, why not pass the no-touch law.(makes prefect sense)

By Keith

August 14, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this

I bet half of the people trying to get it stopped, dont even go to strip clubs. i think it should be brought down to a civic level. does the individual store want the law or not? it should be store policy if people can touch or not.

By Terri

August 14, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

CCV should take out their own trash. When Cincinnati quits leading the state in all of the bad demographics, then maybe they could suggest to the rest of us how we should live, not until.

By Al

August 14, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

If this is a DEMOCRACY, let the PEOPLE VOTE. It is that simple.

By Bucknut

August 14, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

How is getting to vote on every law they don’t like anarchy? Anarchy is absence of any sort of control whatsoever. Looks like the government class you’re referring to took place during recess. The right to vote is one of the main principles of democracy. Petition is also one of those other guaranteed freedoms by the constitution.

By Gerry

August 14, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

That’s all this legislature has to do is to get more people unemployed. Maybe they should be the ones who ‘hit the street’. The people in Cincy are the most pompous hypocrites that this country has seen for a long time. Their downtown in a cesspool. Let them clean up their own mess before they worry about how the rest of us live.

By Old Timer

August 14, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

I really don’t care one-way or another about this law, but it is apparent a lot of the posters missed their Government 101 classes in high school. In a Democracy people don’t get to vote on every law they don’t like. That’s anarchy. In a Democracy you elect representatives to vote in your stead. If you don’t like what they’re doing maybe you voted for the wrong representatives. Wise up the before the next election.

By Erika

August 14, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this

The government should not be allowed to dictate morality.

End of story.

By steve

August 14, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

hey john farris is gay:

way to go pointing out someone’s redneckedness for swearing in a post. calling someone gay is so much more civilized.

i am so glad that i don’t live there anymore. at the stroke of midnight, all the strippers will turn into crazed crime-promoters if they are allowed to continue to do their jobs. putting pasties over their nipples and strings over their cracks will be a much better option. let people work for a living, with what they want to do.

By James

August 14, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

Call me crazy…but I thought this was a free country.

Women…if your man is at a strip club, and you don’t like it, then perhaps you need to look in a mirror rather than trying to pass a law. “What can I do so my husband doesn’t want to go to the strip club?”

If you don’t feed your dog for a week don’t complain when he’s eating the neighbor’s house.

It’s a free country. SHUT UP or leave, ristricting rights of freedom is communism.

By J.A.

August 14, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

J.A.

B-Man, I did not try to link operating strip clubs and committing homicide. Why did you read that? I only refuted the (incorrect) notion that the state cannot pass laws based on the impact to the morality of the people. It can and it does.

Ban Everything, well said. I have a list of things too.

By D. Greene

August 14, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

It’s no surprise that the hypocrites from CCV are based in Cincinnati - they go across the river to Newport for their strip clubs anyhow.

By Ali oop

August 14, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

After reading all the comments I think a lot of people should go back to school and get an education. It’s to bad people can’t express their views without using four letter words. Most of their grammar is also atrocious. As for the issue it should be on the ballot the same as the No Smoking Ban. Let the people of Ohio speak. For those who want to get out of the state - good-bye.

By Ali oop

August 14, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

After reading all the comments I think a lot of people should go back to school and get an education. It’s to bad people can’t express their views without using four letter words. Most of their grammar is also atrocious. As for the issue it should be on the ballot the same as the No Smoking Ban. Let the people of Ohio speak. For those who want to get out of the state - good-bye.

By Bob540

August 14, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

I’m thinking that the real beneficiaries from all this could be the gay rights folks. CCV was instrumental in getting the gay marriage ban on the ballot. As CCV continues to step on toes, perhaps the backlash against them will be so great that voters might re-visit the gay marriage issue and lift that ban, just to oppose the CCV agenda. Regardless what occurs with the strip ban vote, I think gay leadership should seek to exploit growing voter resentment toward CCV to further their own agenda.

By Ebony

August 14, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

Since strip clubs are soooooo bad, and y’all are worried about the future… Why don’t you people go look at what’s going on in REGULAR DANCE CLUBS!!!! U are liable to see more t*ts, a*s, drunkness, and maybe even some F**king going on there. And guess who it is… It isn’t Cinnamon or Stardust (lol)… It’s your everyday,sweet, innocent Maggie (high school/college age daughters) who’s letting it all hang out!!! Have u people ever seen GIRLS GONE WILD??? lol

By Ebony

August 14, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

Since strip clubs are soooooo bad, and y’all are worried about the future… Why don’t you people go look at what’s going on in REGULAR DANCE CLUBS!!!! U are liable to see more t*ts, a*s, drunkness, and maybe even some F**king going on there. And guess who it is… It isn’t Cinnamon or Stardust (lol)… It’s your everyday,sweet, innocent Maggie (high school/college age daughters) who’s letting it all hang out!!! Have u people ever seen GIRLS GONE WILD??? lol

By Ebony

August 14, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

Since strip clubs are soooooo bad, and y’all are worried about the future… Why don’t you people go look at what’s going on in REGULAR DANCE CLUBS!!!! U are liable to see more t*ts, a*s, drunkness, and maybe even some F**king going on there. And guess who it is… It isn’t Cinnamon or Stardust (lol)… It’s your everyday,sweet, innocent Maggie (high school/college age daughters) who’s letting it all hang out!!! Have u people ever seen GIRLS GONE WILD??? lol

By Ban Everything

August 14, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

Lets put everything on the ballot for a vote, thats a grand idea. I for one don’t like Operas/Theatre presentations. I know a good percentage of men feel the same way, and would probably support a ban so they no longer have to go with their wives.

I also want to propose a ban on Starbucks coffee. I think it is too expensive, and the caffeine is not good for your heart.

Who cares if other people like it, as long as 50% of us think it is bad lets ban it!

By Bonnie

August 14, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

(cont)Can you say Communist , here I thought we all lived in the USA thats why we sent all our family and friends over to foreign country’s to fight for our right to freedom, looks to me like they are dying for nothing because we are NOT free to make up our own minds and make our own choices. America got to love it…

By Ebony

August 14, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

The comments on strippers being prostitutes, and strip clubs promoting STDs is ridiculous. STOP BEING JUDGEMENTAL!!! As I recall, I thought prostitution was the act of ENGAGING IN SEXUAL INTERCOURSE for $$$! I have never had sex for money, and damn sure ain’t had no STD. People go to a dance clubs, get grinded on by drunk females, and go home with them all the time… and no one is complaining about that. Strip clubs have bouncers for a reason… to make sure that the guys DO NOT TOUCH!

By Bonnie

August 14, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

I am so glad I don’t live in Ohio anymore, its gone so downhill. first no smoking, I can understand the no smoking in restaurants but inside of bars come on grow up beer and smoke go hand in hand. but to say that the strippers have to have clothes on after midnight is just a joke , what next you cant get naked in your shower, or how about no playing in the parks.

By B-Man

August 14, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

This is ridiculous! No more smoking in bars. No more stip clubs. What is next, prohibition? Wake up people. If you don’t like strip clubs don’t go, its that simple. Big brother is taking more and more of our rights because he thinks he knows what is good for us. Our founding fathers are probably turning over in their graves.

J.A., nice effort on trying to create a link between going to strip clubs and homicide. Its nice to see the people behind this ban display their infant like logic.

By vi

August 14, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

yes, I do feel the no-touch law should be on the ballot. Why? Americans have the right to vote and to be a part of the law making process.

By doug,bowling,loves,commas

August 14, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this

doug,bowling,now,known,as,Comma,Man,should,get,paid,for,each,comma,he,uses,that,way,he,can,fund,his,further,education,efforts,god,bless,his,little,old,soul.

By PoinOH

August 14, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

You know what the way i see it we live in a free country and if i get up and decide i wanna go out and get me some titties and a cold one then i should be aloud too so if your one of those people who say ewww those girls have diseases well then dont f**king go there nobodies forcing you through the doors quit trying to ruin life for everybody damn before long were going to have to have Congress approval to wipe our own asses

By 4ThePeeps

August 14, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

You know what the way i see it we live in a free country and if i get up and decide i wanna go out and get me some titties and a cold one then i should be aloud too so if your one of those people who say ewww those girls have diseases well then dont f**king go there nobodies forcing you through the doors quit trying to ruin life for everybody damn before long were going to have to have Congress approval to wipe our own asses

By doug,bowling,franklin,ohio

August 14, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

go,to,church,praise,god,not,the,devil,at,the,strip,clubs,god,bless,

By Lucy

August 14, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

State Statesman—You forgot about boozing it up! Only then can you actually complete the ‘trifecta’ of immorality.

I think the holy roller’s eyes just bled out from reading that—oh my!

By doug,bowling,needs,a,job

August 14, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

doug,bowling,needs,something,to,do,other,than,post,idiotic,messages,full,of,commas,

By Stripclub Employee

August 14, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

I find it awful laughable that people who claim to have never been in a stripclub “know what goes on in there”. If you’ve never been in, you don’t know what goes on.

Stripclubs are watched like a HAWK to make sure they don’t cross the line. It’s not as if law enforcement just lets a bunch of prostitution and drug dealing go on right under their noses. You are more likely to find that stuff at your friendly neighborhood bar than you are at a stripclub in Ohio.

By State Statesman

August 14, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

I think we should just move all these fine establishments to Lawrenceburg Indiana then we can all go out of state and gamble and then go watch strippers all in one night!

By doug,bowling,franklin,ohio

August 14, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

go,church,and,get,saved,not,stirp,joints,god,bless,you,all.

By Lucy

August 14, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

Re “My thoughts”— You’re scarier than any STD. I give it another year and we’ll be seeing you crying like a little girl after Chris Hanson says ‘hi’ to you as the tapes roll.

Maybe if someone had ever “touched” you, you wouldn’t be so repressed.

I feel sorry for you and hope you get some soon. Maybe then will you lighten up a little.

By LARRY sniffs glue

August 14, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

LARRY, relax, brother.

By *My Thought*

August 14, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

I think with state of Ohio should pass this law. Strip clubs and the like are disgusting places - I think with the epidemic of STDs that places that encourage sexual practices with strangers should have some sort of regulations. For heatlh reasons!! Ok, ok, ok - the strippers will say “but we don’t have sex with them, we just dance!!” Agreed; but don’t people go to have their fires fanned? In other words, watching makes you want to touch and touching makes you want more!

By *My Thought*

August 14, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this

I think with state of Ohio should pass this law. Strip clubs and the like are disgusting places - I think with the epidemic of STDs that places that encourage sexual practices with strangers should have some sort of regulations. For heatlh reasons!! Ok, ok, ok - the strippers will say “but we don’t have sex with them, we just dance!!” Agreed; but don’t people go to have their fires fanned? In other words, watching makes you want to touch and touching makes you want more!

By LARRY

August 14, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

THATS WHY THE PEOPLE DIDN’T GET A CHANCE TO VOTE ON NAFTA AND CAFTA. OUR ELECTED GREATS KNEW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AND NOW OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN WON’T HAVE A PRODUCTIVE FUTURE IN THIS COUNTRY.ONLY WAY WE WILL WIN IS TO GO TO THE POLES AND RID OUR COUNTRY OF THESE CORRUPT POLITICIANS FROM THE LOCAL LEVEL TO CAPITAL HILL !!!!!

By What's your point, RoadRager?

August 14, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

RoadRager, what the heck are you talking about? Your comment has about as much relevance as 99% of the rest of the idiots posting comments.

By Frank Castle

August 14, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

I thought we lived in a free country; our government little by little is taking over our freedoms. The police are getting to powerful thanks to the Patriot Act. Pretty soon they will install little chips in us and follow us around. The funny thing is that the legislators are probably closet child molesters. The hypocrisy is unbelievable in our stupid government, if these girls want to make money and someone who touches they’re little behind gives them they’re life earnings, who the heck cares.

By RoadRager

August 14, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

Maybe we’ll start seeing less of these type of headlines:

Deputies: Man leaves kids alone to go to bar

(Source: DDN Home Page)

By Where's Vonda & Karon?

August 14, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

Where are Vonda and Karon, and why haven’t they joined in on the fun?

By Forest

August 14, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

Our state officials all should be voted out of office. Why worry about this when the schools that could educate our children don’t have proper funding? There are real issues in this state. This isn’t one of them.

By RoadRager

August 14, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

If the signature requirements are met, let them put it on the ballot!!! The outcome will be the same… “Don’t touch the hookers” signs will be posted in every strip club… I guarantee I will be voting that day as will the majority of people that are for the Hooker-Ban.

By della

August 14, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

This should be up to all the voters in Ohio. No one should be allowed to get rid of a law just because it will lose them money. As far as I’m concerned going into a strip club to watch a woman undress is the same as prostitution, they are after all selling their bodies, but I understand that there needs to be a place where all the perverts can go to be satisfied, those watching and those taking it off.

By james lynch

August 14, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

we shouldnt be legislating morality. CCV says they are trying to reduce crime. what crime? is it violent? shouldnt we be worried about murderers rapist and pedophiles not what stardust and cinnamon are doing at their chosen jobs. this should be on the ballot the voters should decide. i thought this was democracy not authoritarian dictatorship run by special interest groups like Citizens for community values who’s president just happens to be a self proclaimed recovering porn addict

By james lynch

August 14, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

we shouldnt be legislating morality. CCV says they are trying to reduce crime. what crime? is it violent? shouldnt we be worried about murderers rapist and pedophiles not what stardust and cinnamon are doing at their chosen jobs. this should be on the ballot the voters should decide. i thought this was democracy not authoritarian dictatorship run by special interest groups like Citizens for community values who’s president just happens to be a self proclaimed recovering porn addic

By UrbanDweller

August 14, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

Nice try Madbassist1 but they AREN’T the same. With the exception of a private residence, the only place I can get a lap dance is a strip club. If I don’t want a lap dance, I don’t go to a strip club. However, smoking was EVERYWHERE, not just bars. Before the ban, if I didn’t want to inhale smoke, that pretty much kept me from going to 90% of the restaurants in the area. Not to mention bowling alleys, VFWs, dance clubs etc.

By Dan

August 14, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

As a Christian member of a representative republic, I dont go to these places. However, unless there is objective proof that the stripper clubs are creating more crime, it should be up to the people to decide, not individually but through the vote. If there ARE objective statistics that people who dont choose to attend stip clubs are being placed in danger by the way stripper clubs are run now, and that this law would likely make those people safer, then the state is obligated to act

By Side with Dancers

August 14, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

i’m glad to see that the state likes to WASTE our money on petty little things like this! if you dont like strip clubs, DONT GO!!! i think everyone is smart enough to make THEIR OWN CHOICES. dont tell me what i can and cant do! whats next, no smoking in your own home if your still paying on it since the bank “technically” owns it until your done paying on it?!?! ohio keeps going down hill and is starting to be a horrible place to live!

By Ebony

August 14, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

I used to be a dancer, but now I am a TAXPAYER in the corporate world. To be honest with you, I’m sick of the JUDGEMENTAL, CLOSE MINDED people that infest this country, as well as Ohio. Everyone has values, and ways that they were brought up. I wasn’t raised as a stripper, but I did it. And, I carry myself like a lady… to the point that you wouldn’t even know that I DID IT. Stop blaming strip clubs for our problems, and focus on more important issues such as poverty and our schools.

By Ebony

August 14, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

I used to be a dancer, but now I am a TAXPAYER in the corporate world. To be honest with you, I’m sick of the JUDGEMENTAL, CLOSE MINDED people that infest this country, as well as Ohio. Everyone has values, and ways that they were brought up. I wasn’t raised as a stripper, but I did it. And, I carry myself like a lady… to the point that you wouldn’t even know that I DID IT. Stop blaming strip clubs for our problems, and focus on more important issues such as poverty and our schools.

By sunny

August 14, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

I know a woman who worked hard at a company for years. Her child got sick and the medical bills went crazy. She lost her job and insurance. Her husband could not deal with it and left for another woman. This gal went out and stripped to pay for her child to get the medical attention he needed. Before some of you up tight people preaching Jesus start to judge, why don’t you think of what may be goin on in a persons life first? Besides, does your bible ot say judge not lest ye be judged?

By judy

August 14, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

remember the smoking ban,it was worded in way ,a lot of people were confused as to how they were voting.leave people alone,country of freedom? its a joke.you go girls!i’ll vote in your favor,sign whatever,if i was 20yrs.younger,i’d shake it too!

By J.A.

August 14, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

Not the government’s job to legislate morality? It seems the Supreme Court disagrees. If the legislature should avoid morality-based laws, why not de-criminalize murder? Just bill the killer the taxpayers’ cost of disposing of the victim’s body and forget it. Why should we (through our elected representatives) pass judgment on those who commit homicide? Maybe it seemed right at the time.

By Lucy

August 14, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

Ohio has one of the top rates of foreclosure in the country. The major cities school systems are in the toilet. Oh yeah, and I hear we are at war or something.

Glad to know we have our priorities in check. Way to go Ohio!

To all the women posting that have their uptight panties in a wad, seriously, find something more productive to do than judge how others choose to make their living.

By Johnny Ballgame

August 14, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

So, your saying that the reason for crime in areas like the dixie strip, are due to the strip clubs and adult businesses? It wouldn’t have anything to do with the large low income apartments that line the dixie strip that have shootings and fires on a regular basis? I don’t see much crime around Diamonds, Cheeks, Pizazz, etc? I think the crime in this area has more to do with the economics of the area rather then the strip clubs there. Let the strippers strip, if you don’t like it don’t go.

By D. Greene

August 14, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

You have no right telling the rest of us how to live. It should AT LEAST be put on the ballot. One wonders why the ‘Citizens for Community Values’ oppose a democratic vote on this if they truly respect the community’s opinion. The truth about the strip club ban is it will not reduce crime and it will just put even more people in Ohio out of work. Mind your own business, it’s what Jesus would have done.

  • D. Greene, audendi.com

By doug,bowling,franklin,ohio

August 14, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

get,born,again,go,to,god,not,strip,joints,god,bless,you,all.

By sheri

August 14, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this

great law ! i would think these girls would apppreciate assurance of not being touched. morality should come naturally but obviously for some it does not. i’m sick and tired of all the immorality that some let slide by continously. and they wonder why there is so much violence, rape, sexual abuse to children and adults. look at what is promoted and stamped a right.

By Non-Ignorant Ohioan

August 14, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

Its unbelievable that people aren’t preserving the freedom of choice. Go or don’t. Work there or don’t. If enough people didn’t want to go to these places they wouldn’t pay their bills and go out of business. Capitalism at its best. Keep the governement’s hands off private enterprise.

By Chris

August 14, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

Freedom…… Some people need to remember that word. What if one religious group decided that another religious group should be banned because they don’t think Jesus is the true savior. It happens in other countries all the time. I will always uphold someone’s right for freedom of choice in this country whether I personally believe in it or not. Some need to thank god that there still are people like this!! Think about it.

By Julie

August 14, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

Wow Scratch, you know where all the strip clubs are. Guess we know what you do with your free time.

By Shannon

August 14, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

To those who have decided to get an education and raise a family the old fashioned way…way to go!! And to those who haven’t…guess you have to do what you have to do. But when it’s MY niece out there working at those clubs, I will fight with all my might to have them closed down. To the dancers…look twice at your precious child that someone else tucks into bed tonight and remember these days when she makes the same choices as you.

By PSSSOFF

August 14, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

WHY DON’T THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN PICK SH WITH THE CHICKENS DO SOMETHING WORTH WHILE, LIKE PUTTING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEDGENCE BACK IN THE SCHOOLS AND DO SOMETHING TO EDUCATE STUDENTS THAT THINK A GED IS AS GOOD AS A DIPLOMA

By steelman

August 14, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this

Why are they so afraid of strippers? They have been doing busines slike this for years and noones the worse. I say let the law be repealed. Its each persons choice. If you don’t want to be that close, stay home.

By Scratch

August 14, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

Hey Julie: you can’t make a blanket statement that businesses near a strip club are all doomed to close. The businesses around Diamonds have been thriving. No businesses closed because of the one in Troy. The area around Cheeks is growing. None of those neighborhoods suffered detrimental effects caused by strip clubs. In fact, all of them are upscale neighborhoods that continue to thrive and grow.

By KC

August 14, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

CCV = American Taliban!!!

In what way is the public good served by this idiotic ban?

It is nothing more than an attempt by a group of anal-retentive zealots to impose their version of morality on the rest of society. Sound familiar? Isn’t that what we’re supposedly fighting against in Afghanistan?

Get a f**king life!!!

By Rusty hill

August 14, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

What amazes me is that so few people don’t get the real threat of this. A group of people in Cincinnati are behind a law that would affect the entire state. It is, yet again, the vocal minority making the rest of us who don’t have the time nor inclination to stand on a soap box, live by their rules. If this is so right, why don’t we leave it up to community standards and do it city by city, or county by county? They say it is a social issue when it is a religious issue. I am so sick of it!

By Larry

August 14, 2007 9:13 AM | Link to this

If they have the signatures, of course it should be on the ballot. That’s the way the system works. As for right or wrong, it’s none of my business. I don’t frequent the places, but do not believe I have the right to force others to not do so.

By Josh

August 14, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

This is not even close to the same thing as the smoking ban. I don’t know why people are comparing it to this. The smoking ban will save lives. This wont.

By sunny

August 14, 2007 8:58 AM | Link to this

Hmmm… let’s see? The government regulating morality huh? Sounds an awful lot like some of the countries that we have been fighting with cause they impose their sense of morality on their people aswell. At this rate we women will one day have to wear veils here to cover our faces and not be aloud outside the home either and the men will have to do all the work and hope they don’t sneeze or cough wrong and end up in jail. Allow people to choose for themselves what they want, don’t force it.

By brixan

August 14, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this

Quite frankly, it is a choice for the ladies to work in the clubs, and while not everyone agrees with what they do for a living, the are at least WORKING. No, it is not a permanent type of job… Some of them (myself included at one time) used the money we make to pay for school, bills, or do what we can to take care of our children. Is it always pretty no, but that doesn’t give people that come in the bar the right to touch them or treat them as less than human. So yeah, Id sign my name.

By William

August 14, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this

Eeveryone forgets to easily about the strip club in Troy that was closed down because of the prostitution and sale of drugs that were taking place up there.

Next time you had better remember there is a reason for “puritanical poo poo”. There are laws for a reason.

By Julie

August 14, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this

That’s one law I’ll be voting against. If you thing these places do no harm, then take a drive down North Dixie and look at the restaurants and hotels in that area that have closed. Enjoy the blighted properties while you’re at it too.

By T

August 14, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this

If you don’t want to go to those clubs…DON’T GO!! It is NOT the governments job to regulate morality.

Bring on the election and lets vote.

I’m not going to strip and would not like it if my daughter did, but it is not the govt.’s place to tell me what I can and can’t do if it isn’t hurting anyone. (and I don’t mean hurting marriages because men are sneaking around…that is the man hurting things not the club)

By Harold

August 14, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this

This law is the dumbest law since the “Smoking Ban”. Don’t old women and Jesus lovers have anything better to do than to attempt to ruin us young peoples lives. It seems like people want to control others so badly that they are trying to turn our goverment into a dictatorship, where the people have no choice. Its my choice to go to a strip club and its my choice to get a lap dance. Can’t you people just let the society choose waht they want to do.

By Poor John Ferris

August 14, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this

Dear John, read the State of Ohio fire code and you’ll see that certain homeowners are already banned from grilling out on their balconies or patios. Good grief!

By All night delight

August 14, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this

Does anyone have any one’s?

By Larry

August 14, 2007 8:33 AM | Link to this

Get rid of these A/Holes. They want to put a tax levy on the ballet to correct a problem, but when it is passed the Problem never gets corrected.The politician gets a raise.The bottom line is we the people need to get rid of all these cheats and take our government back while we still have a right to vote!!!!

By Jeff

August 14, 2007 8:33 AM | Link to this

Excellent.

By Madbassist1

August 14, 2007 8:29 AM | Link to this

“This and the smoking ban are not even close to being the same. Go hijack some other story. I don’t have to get a lap dance if I don’t want to. Without the smoking ban I have no choice but to breathe in your nasty smoke.”

Actually, they ARE the same. If you dont want a lap dance, dont go to a strip club. You dont want to breathe “nasty smoke” dont go to a bar. Dont tell me what I can’t do, or what a businessman can’t permit because you dont like it. Dont like smoke, dont patronize the bar.

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