By Diana Maldonado

September 25, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

Do your own research. It isn’t hard to find on Komen’s own website that they are associated with Planned Parenthood, the number one provider of abortion services in the nation. Their founder, Nancy Brinker, whose sister, Susan Komen, died of breast cancer, was on the board of Planned Parenthood in Texas and was honored last year with an award from Planned Parenthood.Planned Parenthood takes your money on one hand and kills with the other. Research the abortion-breast cancer link.

By hi

September 19, 2007 11:26 PM | Link to this

Dont like a cause? Dont support it or raise money using its good name. Digs for a Cure? The one UD, Dusquesne and and few other “good Catholic schools” in the A10 were involved in? Before you step off that moral high horse, dont forget to rid your house of all these sinful products, all million dollar donors to Komen:( Ive got a hunch theres a handful of Beemers in Alters parking lot (or their parents drive way right now) just sayin….be consistent… Acushnet- Titleist, Cobra and FootJoy Worldwide American Airlines BMW of North America, Inc. Boston Market Carlisle Collection, Ltd. Coldwater Creek Ford Division Hallmark Gold Crown Stores KitchenAid® LEAN CUISINE® LIFE Event-The Val Skinner Foundation M&M’S® Brand Chocolate Candies Mohawk Industries, Inc. New Balance Athletic Shoe, Inc. Payless ShoeSource Pier 1 Imports Quilted Northern Ultra® Rally for the Cure® RE/MAX International United States Bowling Congress Wacoal America Yoplait USA Zeta Tau Alpha Fraternity

By LANGFORD

September 19, 2007 8:16 PM | Link to this

The Susan G. Koman is the most over-funded charity in the world today.
The pink ribbon is seen everywhere and for a single issue charity? Does anyone ever question how much this charity makes and what happens to all their income. I expect to see it listed on Fortune’s 400 soon. Someone should write an article on the SGK charity’s finances and compare it to the income of other charities.

By Helen

September 19, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

Moral issues aside, seems like SGK is just shooting itself in the foot by supporting PP, why? It has been shown that the more estrogen a woman is exposed to in her lifetime, the higher her risk for breast cancer (you know birth control pills, estrogen replacement therapy). Why support a group who supports birth control which increases the chances of breast cancer which your group is trying to eradicate? Better to give the money to local a Cancer Group where you know how the money is being used.

By Front Row

September 16, 2007 12:20 AM | Link to this

bcsurvivor, Thanks for clarifying that the Volley for a Cure was “created” at the high school level by the captains at Loveland and Sycamore. I don’t think anyone at Alter or CJ ever claimed that the Volley for a Cure was their idea … in fact, colleges have been holding “Digs for a Cure” for years. Perhaps the captains from Sycamore and Loveland adopted (vs. “created”) their idea from the college volleyball matches … ?

And though we appreciate your candid suggestion to hold a separate fundraiser, the Alter and CJ Volleyball programs are in favor of giving the money they raised to the Susan G. Komen for the Cure Foundation. It’s the Archdiocese of Cincinnati that is trying to divert the money elsewhere.

By ken

September 15, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this

right

By bcsurvior

September 14, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

This event was created by the captains of Loveland and Sycamore (in Cincinnati) last year. They pushed the idea to the OSHAA and they loved it. This was not CJ or Alter’s idea.

They basically piggy-backed on all the hard work of the organzers, bought their t-shirts (that were to be sold for Komen funds) promoted the event like they were supposed to, and then decided they had the authority to do what ever they wanted with the money. Hold a separate fundraiser next time.

By Proud of the Pink

September 14, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this

Amen sister Front Row! I too was involved with the event. Site has been lost regarding the goal of these very talented, committed volleyball players who worked very hard for a very worthy cause to promote the event and make it the success that it was. Hats off to the girls. I refuse to “vent” on this blog, as it is obvious that it has become a venue for personal intrepretations from people who were/are not involved in the event and have no idea what they are talking about.Great Job Alter!

By Front Row

September 14, 2007 12:27 AM | Link to this

(… continued … ) Shame on you for not commending the efforts and hard work of your athletes who worked diligently for a good cause. To the Alter and CJ athletes who participated, I salute you. I am proud to be affiliated with you!

By Front Row

September 14, 2007 12:25 AM | Link to this

(… continued … ) and plans for Volley for the Cure proceeds. It states: “… all proceeds are to be donated to the 4 Komen affiliates in the state of Ohio; Greater Cincinnati, Northeast Ohio, Northwest Ohio and Columbus. None of these four affiliates fund any programming to Planned Parenthood.”

I’m sorry that the people who felt compelled to question the good intentions of this cause didn’t do their homework and instead, pursued a path of self –righteousness. (…continued … )

By Front Row

September 14, 2007 12:22 AM | Link to this

(… continued …) that the Susan G. Komen Foundation is more than anything, pro-HEALTH, especially when it comes to women’s health. They are genuinely interested in helping all women receive services that will prolong their lives. The money should go to Susan G. Komen for the Cure Foundation.

The Executive Director of the Greater Cincinnati Affiliate of Susan G. Komen for the Cure, Peggy Isenogle, released a statement regarding their position (… continued … )

By Front Row

September 14, 2007 12:19 AM | Link to this

As one who was involved with the Alter CJ Volley for the Cure match, I am incredibly proud of the teams, coaches, and Alter parents who put on a tremendous event. One of our goals for the night was to increase awareness of breast cancer and it is clear through this message board that the goal was achieved.

I am also in favor of donating every last cent made Tuesday night to the Susan G. Komen for the Cure Foundation. I have done my homework and it is apparent ( … continued … )

By a dissapointed athlete

September 13, 2007 11:07 PM | Link to this

While I read through many of the previous comments, I couldn’t help but think to myself, “Is this a joke?!” Are people seriously trying to put the blame on the Church? Let’s remember who started this tradition… Girls who’s lives had been affected by breast cancer. Stop bringing in politics and putting the blame on the Catholic Church and realize that it was first TEENAGERS who were trying to help people. There was a small glitch in the plan and luckily we found it before it was too late.

By A Northmont Volleyball Parent

September 13, 2007 10:20 PM | Link to this

I am proud of the girls on the team who have come together, worked together and have worked hard to make this event work. Many of these girls personally know friends and family who are fighting this terrible cancer. Let us celebrate their awareness and their willingness to do something productive. The event at BW3’s was a success because of these young women and their commitment to make a difference. Ladies A Job Well Done!!

By Steve

September 13, 2007 7:36 PM | Link to this

Sorry Dan, I will stick to topic from here on out

By Dan Kennedy

September 13, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this

The DDN has failed to moderate this board. I hope I’m not the first, but I submitted a request to take down the Steve and PJ comments. It seems like more than half of the comments have already fallen off the end of the board since yesterday. Steve and PJ are just knocking ‘on-topic’ posts off the end of the list. I have observed that the DDN does a poor job of honoring submissions from their ‘Report Improper Posts’ form at the bottom of this page.

By Disgusted

September 13, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

The money was designated as going to the Komen foundation to support research. The Archdiocese has decided it can’t trust the Komen foundation to keep its word and use the money for research, so they’re breaking their word to the people that donated the money. They’re doing the very thing they’re assuming the Komen foundation would do, only they’re cloaking it in religious double talk. If they can rationalize passing along pedophiles, I guess they can rationalize any breach of integrity.

By alice

September 13, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this

To those touting the fundamentalist Christian centers (like Elizabeth’s New Life) as women’s centers: they don’t qualify. I don’t think a center has to provide abortions, but advocating abstinence-only and offering no real information on contraceptives not only disqualifies them from being a women’s center, but is grossly irresponsible. Abstinence is good to encourage, but is unrealistic for the young women who need these centers the most.

By Alice

September 13, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this

I could keep a stock of pregnancy tests in my home bathroom and could qualify as a “women’s center”. They have two objectives: to save unborn babies from being aborted and to “save” the mothers… not the purpose of a women’s center in my book.

By a players mom

September 13, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

All games went to the max. As far as varsity goes CJ won in 5 games. It was a great match to watch.

By Lucy

September 13, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

Oh my…

Won/One. That is surely the end of the world! Eeek! How could I be so utterly reckless?!

And here I was thinking that we were discussing something as serious as breast cancer and giving credit to the folks that donated time and money to the cause.

May I burn in hell for my grammar/spelling faux pas. Too late. I’m already burning in hell (apparently to some on this blog) for my thoughts on abortion.

Driving the bus…anyone want to ride shotgun? .

By speller

September 13, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this

How about “Who WON the match?”

And, I am just LOL about PJ “…waisting away…” Next time, try WASTING away! Sorry, but you can’t credit that one to the spell-checker or claim a typo!

By aharddaysnight

September 13, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

Jim5 do you have any non-biased proof of those claims or is that just another anti-choice scare tactic?

Northmont and Vandalia are not catholic schools,they can and should give this money to Susan Komen Foundation.

To the anti-choicers out there if you really care about the sanctity of life then you’ll do what’s right for ALL women,not just the unborn ones.

By PJ

September 13, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

Agreed!!! The kids no matter what the issue at hand, did a wonderful thing. The money that was earned no matter where it goes, as long as it is for breast cancer will have done it’s purpose.

By steve

September 13, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

Thank you. I too apologize for my outburst. I do admire your ability banter. I hope that the issue at hand (breast cancer aweness) is resolved and I appreciate all the kids that are trying to make a difference in this community of ours and with that I’ll shut up! Take care!

By Lucy

September 13, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Jeff— Agreed. PJ and Steve need to go away or contribute to this conversation.

Again, hats off the young folks that raised the money. Good to hear some positive news in the world of education.

BTW—who one the match?

By Lucy

September 13, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

Jeff— Agreed. PJ and Steve need to go away or contribute to this conversation.

Again, hats off the young folks that raised the money. Good to hear some positive news in the world of education.

BTW—who one the match?

By PJ

September 13, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

Steve, believe it or not, I will admit one thing. I should not have thrown out those names at you in my comment back to your comment. I admittedly was p’d off at your backlash against what I thought was something funny. We obviously have different views, and awesome tempers, but the name calling, especially to that degree was wrong, and for that I honestly apologize. Again, I still don’t see why my joke made you so mad, and I totally believe in what I say, but the name calling was wrong.

By Jeff

September 13, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

Is anyone besides me, well and obviously PJ getting tired of Steve grasping at straws. He obviously has no real answer to anything on here, and from what I can see is the one that started the name calling. Is there away to keep people like this off of this website, so that real people can debate the real topics? PJ started out with a real debate, and you turned it into a shouting match. If you don’t like someones joke, move on. It was a joke, we are getting tired of seeing your name.

By steve

September 13, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

My father don’t me if someone has no arguement they resort to name calling joke or not you did it and started it. You still had no arguement so you called me baby killer, gay lover, etc,etc, (I saved it for future use) So let’s be real honest here your a neocon nut with no argument. All you can do is call people names. What a big you are. I sure hope you have no kids, one of you in the world is too much already.

By steve

September 13, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

BTW I know this sounds crazy but there is more than one person in this state named steve. I never attended CJ, but you being the assumption man I guess you can’t comprehend that. My father taught me that when people have no arguement they resort to name calling, funny you did that right out the gate.

By PJ

September 13, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

Chump out???? I believe I responded. I believe you were the fist to throw out the obsenities, because you didn’t like a joke that I had made. I joke by the way that was made light hardedly. I once heard a liberal comedian on the radio say he had two t-shirts. One said “i am a republican give me a dollar i will teach you something” the other “i am a democrat just give me a dollar”. I don’t see your address on here. You can dish it, but can’t take it. I am done with your wimpy whinny butt.

By steve

September 13, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

No threat at all babe just want to talk to you man to man…oh wait you hide behind your screen and spew obsentities at people but when ask to be a man you chump out. Typical NEOCON.

By PJ

September 13, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this

Steve or Steve, you little girl. Your mommy would be so proud of you. I saw that another person commenting would like to see you sent to Singapore for a canning, and you left him alone. Why you not smart enough to multi task your frustations? Or does your teacher only give you a few minutes at a time on the internet. By the way making threats over the internet, good move my friend, good move.

By Lucy

September 13, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

Hmm…

If you stood in front of the micrwowave, stand back!! You just gave yourself cancer.

Reference—Your 1994 “reference” Jim5 is a bit outdated.

By Jim5

September 13, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

The public should know that ABORTION CAUSES BREAST CANCER. This is an important fact that could help with prevention. Why doesn’t the Komen foundation emphasize this fact? Is it part of the financial coziness we are finding they share with Planned Parenthood? Are we so PC’ed out of our minds that we cannot defend the cause of fighting cancer like these children did at the fundraiser?!

Reference: Journal of the National Cancer Institute 1994; 86: 1584-1592

By steve

September 13, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

Here I thought you had calmed down and I scroll a little further and your ignorance pops its head up again. And talking about being a kid I noticed you didn’t post after 9pm must of been tubby and story time before you went to bed. I do have a web site for you though so you will feel at home! The-ozone (the-ozone.net) You’ll feel right at home with the other moonbat neocons. Your a clown and if you leave your address I’ll come over and show you a 14 yr old you moronic excuse for a human.

By ButlerFan

September 13, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

I would suggest people visit the Susan G Komen web site. On the site, you will see that there are some very well known sponsors of the program-Serta, BMW, Bausch and Lomb, New Balance and Remax to name a few. How many people out there with the negative point of view are driving BMWs, wearing New Balance Shoes, using Bausch and Lomb contact cleaner or sleeping on a Serta Mattress? Everyone has a choice. I wish the girls luck with their fundraiser!!!

By From the Floor

September 13, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

For those of you who have no idea WHERE the concept for Volley for the Cure even began: The OHSAA (Ohio High School Athletic Association) challenged all 800 girls’ volleyball teams in the state to dedicate one of their home matches to promote breast cancer education, awareness and fundraising. This was not an event that was dreamed up by Alter and/or C-J. Check it out for yourselves: http://www.ohsvca.org/volleyforcure/index.php

By Dee

September 13, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

My sister is involved with the Komen foundation, she’s a survivor, and they only use Planned Parenthood to help under priviledged women get mammograms and other precancer screenings! Alter should have done it’s homework if it has “upper class and upper intelligent” students! Alter supports beer drinking and gambling festivals but not breast cancer research?! Alter should have done it’s homework, plain and simple. Nice to know Alter is above cancer and it’s survivors.

By Sean

September 13, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this

Jael, not even the NIH, run by the Bush Administration, is trying to claim that breast cancer is caused by abortion. That’s just a scare tactic designed to confuse poor young women and keep them from exercising their right to choose. Next time, try using actual science.

By patty

September 13, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

In answer to James O’Clayton here is a link to the website of Elizabeth New Life Center. An Organization founded by a Catholic couple to help women with their pregnancies and their children. They have satellite offices all over the Dayton area. I personally know people (one has let many young pregnant woman with no place to go live with her) who volunteer with this organization to help woman in need out of a deep sense of faith and love for Christ http://www.elizabethnewlife.org/

By MissB

September 13, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

Jeff: apology accepted; thank you. I am many things, but am most definitely not a moron. You are right; every one has their own beliefs and is entitled to them. The point is that every one that participated in the initial event did so with the intention of their money going to the Komen Foundation. So, if after the discovery of affiliation with PP they still want their money to go to Komen, then that is where it should go. For those who don’t, then have it re-routed to another breast cancer foundation that every one can agree upon.

By Jeff

September 13, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

MissB, first off sorry for calling you a moron, hadn’t had my morning coffee yet. While I think this whole comment section has gone way overboard on the debates, you can’t expect a religious group to give money to a group that totally goes against what they stand for. For instance the Jahovas Witness church isn’t going to give out donations to any Christian organization raising money for Christmas kids, because they don’t believe in celebrating the birth of Christ. Everyone has their beliefs.

By Julie

September 13, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this

Paul, the Bible says that Christians should not remove themselves entirely from the lives of unbelievers, rather that Christians should be gracious in dealing with them. If there are people who do not accept God, it is not necessary to proclaim judgment upon them, because this is something God will do later. Christians only need to judge and punish one another as a family might. Christians are therefore free to associate with unbelievers. I agree, in marriage, you should be equally yoked.

By MissB

September 13, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

I did read the article Jeff. I read not only this particular one, but also the one that was posted yesturday that stated the event was giving donations to the Susan G. Komen Foundation, but then wanted to withdraw their donations due to it’s affiliation with Planned Parenthood. When it comes right down to it either way the money is going to a good cause. My only complaint is all of the people that are turning this into a religious debate when it isn’t about that at all.

By PJ

September 13, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this

James O Clayton, their are many Christian organizations out there that work with unwed mothers that aren’t ready to be mothers, and weren’t stupid enough to have an abortion. These groups find homes for their babies, pay for their health care for all maternity charges, and really make these people feel like family. The difference is, these Christian organizations don’t recommend killing an innocent life before it has a chance to give an opinion on the situation.

By James o'Clayton

September 13, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

Um, the donation and fund raiser helps protect women. So, what’s wrong with that? Also, concerning Planned Parenthood, when will the Christian community start raising some of these babies born out of wedlock? Also, will the Christian community also care for children having children? Well? When, catholic church goers? WHEN? What are you doing to help unwed mothers besides complaining?

By Jeff

September 13, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

Miss B, if you read the article the money is going to breast cancer charities. If you read comments from actual parents and players, the event advertised money going to breast cancer research, and it is! People like you are so easily manipulated by moron writers at the DDN. Research something before you spout off like a 4 year old moron.

By Paul

September 13, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this

Julie, It is apparent to me that you have either never read any part of the Bible or only read what you wanted to, to get a quick answer. I am sorry you are completely wrong in this case. The Bible does say that you are not to associate with non believers, if non believers choose not to be saved and lead the Christian life style you are to stay away from them. This charity event only advertised they were giving money towards breast cancer, they are doing the right thing.

By MissB

September 13, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this

Outrageous! This has NOTHING to do with rape/bigotry/pedophilistic Priests/or whether or not Catholicism is a religion or a hypocrisy. I think every one should actually read the article & note the Who What When Where Why & How of the issue before they post irrelevant bull crap. The money donated should go to the Komen Foundation, because that is where every one was told their money would go. Those who wish to w/ draw their donation should have it sent to a local breast cancer research fund. End of story!

By Lucy

September 13, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

Janice—

Bravo! I didn’t have cereal in my mouth, but coffee and it nearly went all over my keyboard. Thanks for the laugh!

By Lucy

September 13, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

This is not a hard issue—

The school lined up sponsors prior to the event. People gave money to said organization. Don’t have a sponsor if you don’t know what they stand for. To the administration—do your homework next time. To the kids and staff who put on the event—kudos! Sounds like it was a smashing success despite the controversy.

To the holier than thou folks telling others they will burn in hell for their OPINIONS, all I can say is…really? Seriously? Get over yourselves!

By Janice

September 13, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this

To all the people eating your corn flakes while reading this article… SPIT THEM OUT!!!!! General Mills gives to Planned Parenthood.

Maybe you need to stop eating cereal!! No volleyball, no cereal!!!!!

By Julie

September 13, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

“True Christians read the bible”, you are wrong. Who did Jesus spend time with? Not Christians… You can’t read a single verse, you must read and learn the entire Bible to interpret it correctly.

By Bill

September 13, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this

Sorry but the fund raisor can give or not give based on whatever it thinks. Cancer research and planned parenthood (which I am in favor of) are two different things. The group needs to differentiate what it does or what it says. I encourage everyone to give to causes they like but also encourage everyone to look at what the program actually does. Also, check how much of the proceeds actually go to the cause and not to fundraising and overhead.

By patty

September 13, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

Judging by some of the comments by people actually involved with this match they took the Komen name off the actual event and just said proceeds go to breast cancer research. If this is true than this is a controversy that wasn’t. Come on DDN let us know how this all really went down.

By Jessica

September 13, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

I can understand not directing funds to an organization based on affiliations but this has to do with the fact that people were sold tickets based on Susan G. Komen, when they purchased all items at the game, the thought was the money was going there. I believe the proper thing to do is give the money this time and next time do better research. Going back on your word is as wrong as not doing your research ahead of time, lessons learned.

By Bug

September 13, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this

I have no problem with the Church directing funds to organizations that share their pro life views. As far as the preist scandal, they aren’t pedophiles, they’re homosexuals who like teenage boys. Most of these unfortunate victims were teens, not the younger prey of a pedophile. The media spun the story with that angle to protect the gay lobby/movement. It’s seems to me, and I’m sure the statistics would bear this out, that teachers abuse children much more frequently than preists ever have.

By True Christians read the bible

September 13, 2007 7:26 AM | Link to this

Julie, you are suppose to seperate yourself from non-believers. Jesus ministered to nonbelievers but hung out with his followers. Follow the Christ to be a Christian.

By Big Ed

September 13, 2007 7:18 AM | Link to this

Typical church hyprocrisy.

By painfultruth

September 13, 2007 7:13 AM | Link to this

Plain and simple fraud. Advertise one thing and do another. All this talk of “not losing the issue” is just hot air. This is a legal issue, not a moral issue. If one decides after the fact to not contribute to an advertised sponsor, that is deceptive and illegal. Period. People defending the church over a falsehood? How unique!

By Julie

September 13, 2007 7:04 AM | Link to this

If you know a young woman who has had an abortion, is thinking of an abortion or is an unwed mother, show her Christian love.

Paul, the Bible does not say that you should not associate with non-believers. I hope your posts are just jokes, I would hate to think you call yourself Christian, it gives us all a bad name!

By PJ

September 13, 2007 6:57 AM | Link to this

Steve, I just realized something. I have been waisting my time debating a 14 year old. It took me awhile, but then i realized, holy cow, look at these acronyms, I have one smart text messaging freshman on my hands. It took me awhile with you throwing in that married story. Good job, you have been entertaining. You can put your thesaurus away now, and get on the bus.

By Jael

September 12, 2007 11:12 PM | Link to this

It’s counter productive for those who want to spare women from breast cancer to give funds to the Susan G. Komen Foundation. There is quite a bit of data now available linking abortion to breast cancer. Planned Parenthood does approximately 250,000 abortions a year. So while well meaning people give to help find a cure, they may in fact be contributing to increases in breast cancer. Our nation is long past due in defunding the largest anti-family organization in the world.

By George

September 12, 2007 11:08 PM | Link to this

One -hypocracy.The Catholic Church has paid out over $2 BILLION dollars to individuals and families who have been victimized by priests and other members of the clergy.and NOW,they have the inane sense to determine where charitable contributions will be directed? How pathetic. They have turned their backs on what is becoming a pandemic issue within the bowels of their own preaching and now do background checks on an organization that’s raised millions to spare a life-aren’t they all about LIFE?

By Sean

September 12, 2007 10:49 PM | Link to this

What is lost in this whole situation is that the Komen Foundation wasn’t donating money to Planned Parenthood to perform abortions. They were donating the money to help provide cancer screening services to underprivileged women. To suggest that this has anything to do with abortion just because Planned Parenthood happens to provide abortions, among many other services, is absurd.

There should definitely be some legal action taken on this by the Komen Foundation. They were listed as a sponsor, and their good reputation was used to promote this. If they’re not going to receive the money this constituted false advertising.

By altervball

September 12, 2007 10:43 PM | Link to this

As a volleyball player that was involved with the planning of this event, I would first like to thank everyone for their support throughout the event. As our signs advertised, the profits from this event WILL go to breast cancer research and prevention. I am shocked that some people would consider it “fraud” for us to stand up for our beliefs and direct the money to another charity that does not support abortion.

By Ken

September 12, 2007 10:16 PM | Link to this

With all of these ex-Catholics who needs Protestants. I don’t believe in abortion, but for some of these jakanappes, I wish it could be retro-active.

By altervolleyballparent

September 12, 2007 9:54 PM | Link to this

To those who continue to say that we should have checked our facts first, I hope that you will know that the Susan G Komen site WAS checked out.Mission Statement “We are dedicated to education and research about the cause, treatment and research for a cure. We are extremely careful how we spend the dollars you entrust to our care” The coaches and young girls ages 13-18 were assured by this. Absolutely no mention was made about Planned Parenthood on their site. Thank You very much.

By proud to be an Alter Alumni

September 12, 2007 9:09 PM | Link to this

First of all Rovineagle, to say the church hates women is nuts. We revere the Virgin Mary - Jesus’ mother. Jelane, the change in who the money was going to was announced on Tues - before the event. I’m sick of hearing that the Catholic Church is all about molesting priests. Less than 1/10000th of 1% of priests have been accused of this. Most of them are wonderful, prayerful individuals and we are proud to have them as leaders of our community.Kudos to the hard working girls at Alter and CJ

By Lori Priller Weidel

September 12, 2007 9:02 PM | Link to this

Think the catholics want women to die is the only reason they won’t give the money to Susan foundation. I think that if the proceeds were advertized to be given then the law would be an issue to force them to give the money back as pre contracted to do so. Other wise it’s false advertizement.

By TZ

September 12, 2007 8:53 PM | Link to this

Props to the media for yet again turning something nice and rewarding into a negative news event. Why not just focus on everything these schools did to raise money for breast cancer awareness? Does it really matter which breast cancer organization the money goes to? These ladies had nothing but good intentions - leave it at that, please.

By fronsie

September 12, 2007 8:46 PM | Link to this

Any organization who took money under false pretenses should be ASHAMED. At the very least it is mismanagement; at the most it is fraud. The road to he11 is paved with good intentions. Yes, the stands were packed with pink in support. It’s a shame the organizers let those pink-decked fans down by not doing some basic homework. And it’s DISAPPOINTED, not DISSAPOINTED. Just FYI.

By jen

September 12, 2007 8:31 PM | Link to this

Jesus. Planned parenthood is ALSO a women’s Gyn-health clinic. They are for many in the inner city the first stop in diagnosing breast and cervical cancers and pregnancy testing. Abortion is a TINY portion of what they do!

It’s like shunning Walmart becasue they sell guns… they also sell tires, trashbags, clothes, and bandaids.

By Alter volleyball player

September 12, 2007 8:26 PM | Link to this

I find it disheartening that so many people are trying to change the focus of the event, which was having two schools work together to raise awareness for breast cancer. Anyone who is trying to change the good intentions of this event should be ASHAMED of themselves.

By An Alter Player

September 12, 2007 8:18 PM | Link to this

I’m a little dissapointed that all of the hard work that me, my teamates, CJ, our schools parents, and our coaches has been overlooked and replaced with arguments like this. If any of you came to the game, you could see that the stands were packed with pink in support of breast cancer awareness and support. Our hardwork and effort on this project should not be put down like this, the money is still going to breast cancer research. This was a really fun match to play, and it was for a good cause

By fronsie

September 12, 2007 7:52 PM | Link to this

How in the world did CJ/Alter not find out about the Komen-PP connection until AFTER they took people’s money? Isn’t that something they should have checked out BEFORE they grabbed the cash? Whoever was in charge of planning this should be fired; they did not bother to do the research/planning necessary to have a successful fundraiser. Stupid!

And BTW, CJ heavily promotes its employees to contribute to United Way, which sends some of that money on to……..Planned Parenthood?? Hmmm…

By Ken

September 12, 2007 7:47 PM | Link to this

Has the Church made mistakes in its history. Yes. But the good that it has done outweighs the bad. Should the schools have known who Susan Komen gives money to. Yes. Do they have a right to send the money to help women with cancer within an organization that does not go against it teachings. Yes. So long as the money goes to help women in their fight against breast cancer, why are these yahoos acting with such venom.

By steve

September 12, 2007 7:43 PM | Link to this

Enough of being nice (btw I see you grabbed a dictionary on this post but then again most of your words were one and two syllable so who knows) I think your a lost soul bub. Again you couldn’t stick to the debate you had to say I married my sister etc etc, I am not afraid or ashamed of who I am but it is painfully obvious that you are. So just keep showing your ignorance and I’ll keep pointing it out for the world to see. ROFLMAO

By PJ

September 12, 2007 7:34 PM | Link to this

Steve, big words coming from a liberal who probably married his sister. You don’t have to say what or who you are, you can tell it, by your ignorant brain washed train of thought. By the way in this day and age if I was listening to everyone else, I would be an idiotic moron like yourself for listening to what the liberal media’s tell you. You choose to believe in murder good for you, enjoy hell you moron.

By steve

September 12, 2007 7:21 PM | Link to this

(con’t) I said you were a moron because you couldn’t stick to the debate, you had to add your closed minded 2 cents and take a cheap shot at democrats. The political spectrum runs far right an left on both sides of the isle. Now would you please STFU and get a better grasp of the English language and work on your spelling and stop listening to 1290 6hrs a day and FOR ONCE THINK FOR YOURSELF I am sure eventually a solid thought will emerge.

By steve

September 12, 2007 7:14 PM | Link to this

allright PJ the gloves come off. I am a married man of 20 years with kids ranging from 18 to 6. I served in the armed forces 10 years and have been on 6 of the 7 continents. I own my own home and have NEVER TAKEN A DIME THAT I DIDN’T EARN. I am not a woman but feel abortion is actually wrong, but that decision is not mine it is a womans’ and that is between her and God. I never said I was a Republican or Democrat I simply stated that there are many philanthropist on both sides of the isle.

By A Student at Alter High School

September 12, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this

First of all since when did they say that the money was never going to Breast Cancer Research. Never, read the article, it’s going to another orgainization. However, having read the article I think it is our fault we didn’t do a backround check on the original benefactor. But please shut up about things you don’t know we can give the money to whoever we please and if you feel robbed I’m sorry but almost all the girls who raised this money don’t want it going to a group who advocates abortion

By Cali

September 12, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this

Once again the church has picked the wrong battle. While the catholic church looks the other way as hundres of lives have been ruined by molesting priests, they deprive one of the most fabulous organizations money that was gathered by a group of motivated young women. SHAMEFUL & DISGUSTING!!

By PJ

September 12, 2007 6:28 PM | Link to this

Right Steve, and you were so pollite and courdious to me in your first email… Looks to me like you read into me, off of one little joke in my first email. If you can’t take it you wimp don’t put it out there. By the way are you enjoying the apartment my taxes are paying for?

By lulu

September 12, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this

Planned Parenthood is a great organized. When I was in college, I went to them for my yearly appointments. I had no insurance, and little money. I only had to pay on a sliding scale. I had them look at a lump on my breast. It was later removed and found to not be cancerous. However, think of what a great service this is for women who don’t have much money. Who would I have gone to for the lump if Planned Parenthood hadn’t been around?

By Jelane

September 12, 2007 6:14 PM | Link to this

The argument isn’t about abortion, it’s about the bait-and-switch approach applied to the donations after people have given their money. Komen is also out the funds it donated to sponsor the event. The church waited until AFTER it had collected money from Komen and individual donors before announcing that they had changed their mind about the recipient of the donations. That doesn’t strike me as particularly honest behavior.

By rovineagle

September 12, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this

This suprises anyone??? The same organization that abuses children who are already born and that refuses to believe in anything that prevents pregnancy, also refuses to support a cure for breast cancer?? Hellooo… THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HATES WOMEN!!! You don’t have to be very bright to gigure that out!!! If you care about women, DON’T DO ANYTHING REMOTELY associated with that misogynistic, barbaric, bunch of self-righteous, ignorant fools!

By Muggsy

September 12, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this

The church can decide who they want to give money to. Its none of my business. That’s a matter for the church alone to decide for whatever reason they decide.

By de

September 12, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this

If the event was advertised as benefitting a particular organization, then the event proceeds should go to that organization….simple as that. Has the school considered asking the foundation to use the funds only for breast cancer research? Many charitable organizations allow contributors to do so. Why is everything always a fight? The school, the event participants, and the Foundation all have one common goal - defeating breast cancer. Why can’t they work together on what they agree upon?

By Patrick

September 12, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this

Wow, Anon, Alter and CJ filled with “hicks”? That’s hysterical! Trust me, you are the FIRST person to ever level this accusation against these schools! FYI: Alter and CJ are largely comprised of upper-middle class kids from well educated parents and stable homes. You clearly know nothing about the constituencies of these schools and are simply spewing vitriol from your mouth because you disagree with the values of these schools.

By Anon

September 12, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this

What is with you hicks? Please follow the numbers below m’kay? 1)Schools agree to hold a sponsered charity sporting event. 2)The idiots who organized the event fail to do even the most cursury research about the sponsor. 3) tupid parent does a little googling and heavens!, finds out the the sponsor has links to other groups that the Church-loving school founders don’t like. 4)School still holds event, but refuses to give funds to sponsor. 5)FRAUD OCCURS. Sigh…hicks.

By proud to be an Alter Alumni

September 12, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

As a breast cancer survivor, I want the money I spent at the fundraiser to go to BC research, not to paying for abortions. I am so proud to be part of a community that is willing to recognize an error in judgment (by supporting the Komen foundation)and make it right. I am sure that those who want their money back can get it. My guess is that other people will make up that money difference many times over to show their support of the players and the great job they did.

By Patrick

September 12, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

Spectator,

I have not lost sight of the issue. I was merely responding to your personal attack (i.e. that my dream world consists of cheap health care, condescension and the uninformed). As for the argument that Alter/CJ pulled a bait-and-switch by not donating the money to Komen, I have already made myself clear. It is Komen that routinely pulls the true bait-and-switch by concealing financial support for the controversial Planned Parenthood under the guise of “breast cancer research”.

By Cait

September 12, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

The event was advertised as supporting a certain charity and that isn’t happening. People who donated money should have the option to take it back. Abortion is wrong, but many pro-lifers aren’t PRO-life. REAL pro-lifers don’t support politicians and policies that hurt the living, i.e. reductions that have occurred in programs such as veterans benefits & Medicare. Life doesn’t end at birth. If society will force a child to be born, we must be willing to pay for its healthcare,food & education too

By Hugh

September 12, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this

“Who’s next: Baptists, Methodists, Episcopalians?”

Bring it on - no fantasyland should be left untouched.

By steve

September 12, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

Hey PJ never read into what some one has written. read what was wrote. I never said I was a liberal, never said I was on welfare
(and I know how to actually spell the word correctly) Read and act on what was written my boy and watch what you say because you can get in allot of trouble over it as well.

By Jeff

September 12, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

I am the son of a breast cancer survivor and for the Church not give the money to the sponsor is irresponsible. They (the Church) should have done their homework before they allowed the Foundation to be their sponsor. The Archdiocese has to get off its high moral horse and do what good for a portion of the population. Do the right thing, GIVE THE PROCEEDS TO BREAST CANCER RESEARCH. The chance is good that this disease may affect someone that these people love. What then?

By Linda

September 12, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

This is just wrong! To advertise that money will go to a charity, and then rescind it because of its donation to another organization. Perhaps someone should have checked on the Komen Foundation/Planned Parenthood link in the first place, not afterwards. The money raised should go to the charity it was intended for. Otherwise, it is the old “bait and switch” tactic.