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Tipp Council to vote on fluoride addition to water supply

By Nancy Bowman

Staff Writer

Monday, October 01, 2007

> What do you think about fluoride in the water?

TIPP CITY — Chuck Smith thinks adding fluoride to the city water supply will be a "wonderful thing" for the community.

The City Council is considering an ordinance to bring fluoride levels to 1 milligram per liter in water coming from the new Northern Area Water Authority treatment plant. The plant, a joint project between the city and Vandalia, came on line earlier this year.

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The council is scheduled to vote on the fluoridation ordinance tonight.

City Manager David Collinsworth said that because Tipp City has more than 5,000 residents, it is required by the Ohio Revised Code to fluoridate its water supply.

The water has a naturally occurring amount of fluoride, but the city would add to that to bring fluoride to the levels recommended by the state Environmental Protection Agency, Collinsworth said.

He said late last week that the city had received no comments regarding the proposal since it was discussed Sept. 27.

Smith, a longtime local dentist, said the levels proposed will bring the amount of fluoride to therapeutic levels. Within five to six years of the fluoridation, Smith said, there will be a reduction in tooth decay in children.

Smith said there would be no detrimental impact on health from the fluoride level proposed.

Contact this reporter at (937) 335-4357 or nbowman@DaytonDailyNews.com

> What do you think about fluoride in the water?

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By gennnniiikk

October 11, 2007 2:29 AM | Link to this

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October 9, 2007 10:48 PM | Link to this

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By r wilson

October 3, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this

for that matter why not add asprin or lipotor they all have had many studys saing they are good for the heart where do we draw the line if you trust the government to decide your medications you are an idiot.the only other place you can be forced to take medications is a mental instution or prison

By r wilson

October 3, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this

whats good for the teeth may not be good for the rest of the body you need to look at the body as a whole. i spoke with the guy at the water department who adds the fluoride he said its a nasty chemical and he hates working with it. my other point is that whole idea of adding fluoride is socialist. its not my tax payng responsibility to take care of your teeth.in my opnion anybody that wants fluoride can use tooth paste its in all major brands the cheeper the tooth paste the more fluoride .

By Anita

October 3, 2007 12:51 AM | Link to this

St. Petersburg, Florida, decided to fluoridate our water on Dec. 7, 1992, and right away began purchasing Zephyrhills Spring Water for 6 departments. I caught the truck outside city hall and requested a letter admitting they were buying bottled water and on unbudgeted terms so the average citizen would never know, that is, till I caught them!

By Riverdale Ghost

October 2, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

Since my first comment seems to have vanished, an abbreviated statement:

Good luck, Tipp City.

By Riverdale Ghost

October 2, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

They have decided?

Use alternative means or with the flow.

Or maybe find a responsible article where some community has thrown out floridation.

In the meantime, good luck, Tipp City.

By Fed Up

October 2, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

Better an exposure to fluoride than an exposure to hormones! When the eco-police tackle estrogens in the water supply, I’ll listen to their concerns about fluoride.

http://www.catholic.org/printer_friendly.php?id=24681&section=Cathcom

By Roger

October 2, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

I am one of those people sensitive to fluoride. I will get mouth cankers if I am exposed to to much fluoride. A college chemistry professer was antifluoride back in the 70’s and gave me a list sysmptoms of fluoride intoxication. I stayed away from drinking items on his list that were naturally high in fluoride, and have been sucessful in avoiding those mouth cankers for many years. I occasional drink tea, which was on his list as a source of fluoride, and sure enouogh the mouth cankers return

By Bob

October 2, 2007 8:24 AM | Link to this

It makes sense to me for dentists to spend money pushing for flouridation. If your teeth fall out of your mouth when you’re in your 20s, they’ll have lost a customer for many years to come. If your teeth stay in all that time, they’re going to need cleaned, filled, drilled, etc. many times over. So, I imagine the more people with teeth in their heads, the more money dentists make in the long run.

By aharddaysnight

October 2, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this

It’s called sarcasm Jason. Omg! It’s all a conspiracy!! What we really want to do is turn all your teeth brown so you’ll spend thousands of dollars on veneers and bleaching to get rid of the fluorosis. Get real people! Keep takin that Fosomax and Boniva though, and have fun with that osteonecrosis.

By billis

October 2, 2007 7:03 AM | Link to this

See what is probably happening is that the city purchased some stock in a bottled water company and by putting flouride in the local water, the people will have to purchase bottled water if they don’t like it. This will raise the stock price and generate revenues for the city. Or they had a flouride surplus laying around and nowhere to store it. Or maybe they really care about your teeth. I am guessing one of the first two.

By Steveo

October 2, 2007 6:04 AM | Link to this

“Look Ma, no cavities!!”

By Anita

October 2, 2007 12:46 AM | Link to this

Source of Fluorides? “The Geology of Florida” 1997, Univ. Press of Florida, page 143: “In addition to uranium, fluorine is an economical byproduct of phosphoric-acid production. The fluorine from the rock reacts with silica to form SiF4 gas. During acid production this gas is recovered as fluorosilicic acid in wet scrubbers that are part of the environmental-protection equipment. Fluorosilicic acid is widely used in preparation of chemical compounds and in the treatment of public drinking water.

By Anita

October 2, 2007 12:41 AM | Link to this

National Academy of Sciences’ report for Congress, 1993, page 11 notes: “The subcommittee found inconsistencies in the fluoride toxicity data base and gaps in knowledge. Accordingly, it recommends further research in the areas of fluoride intake, dental fluorosis, bone strength and fractures, and carcinogenicity.” This book is available online. see also pages: 5, 16, 30, 34, 41, 44-45, 128 and 129. References also important.

By Anita

October 2, 2007 12:36 AM | Link to this

Re: Calcium. The National Academy of Sciences’ report for Congress:”Health Effects of Ingested Fluoride”, page 128: “High dietary concentrations of dietary calcium and other cations that form insoluble complexes with fluoride can reduce fluoride absorption from the gastrointestinal tract.”

By Anita

October 2, 2007 12:31 AM | Link to this

Tipp City OKs what fluoride in the water? I hereby prescribe adding calcium to your diets. The US Dept. of Health & Human Services “Toxicological Profile for Fluorides, Hydrogen Fluoride, and Fluorine (F) 1993 notes on page 112: “Subsets of the population may be unusually susceptable to the toxic effects of fluoride and its compounds. These populations include the elderly, people with deficiencies of calcium, magnesium, and/or vitamin C, and people with cardiovascular and kidney problems.”

By Jason from MN

October 1, 2007 10:36 PM | Link to this

“it cuts into our profits” is misleading and misguided.

Would it surprise you to know that there are MORE dental practices in fluoridated communities than non-fluoridated communities?

Would it also surprise you to know that the ADA and other dental groups just spent over $150,000 to try and fluoridate Juneau, Alaska? http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/093007/loc_20070930051.shtml

Follow the money, people. Why is the ADA pushing fluoridation so hard? Altruism?? Me thinks not….

By aharddaysnight

October 1, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

Yeah I mean what does the ADA,AMA,CDC,or the World Health Orginization know about flouride anyway? It’s only been studied for the last 60 or so years. It must all be a big conspiracy. We dental professionsal secretly don’t want you to have it anyway,it cuts into our profits.

By Damon

October 1, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

I understand you personal attack fallacy, and your humorous European teeth remark, but in an issue where thousands of people will be affected I think it best to refer to the most current and soundly based science.

By the Strawboss

October 1, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

Damon,

“I will accept lung cancer, but healthy teeth are an abomination!!!”

My point is this, if someone is truly concerned about her health, she isn’t puffing on a cancer stick while demanding they remove fluoride from her tap water.

Choose your battles wisely, or people won’t take you seriously.

Besides, have you seen European teeth?

By Monorail King

October 1, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

As long as Tipp City invests in a mass transit train system with the rest of Ohio, then I’m all for poisoning children with fluoride.

By Damon

October 1, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Was that publicly mandated smoking?

By the Strawboss

October 1, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

I work with a lady who got her knickers in a knot over the health risks of fluoride being added to her city’s tap water. I turned to her and asked, “Don’t you smoke?”

By Damon

October 1, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

Here are 10 quick reasons to oppose fluoride. They deal with misconceptions and false reasoning of fluoridation. http://www.fluoridealert.org/fluoride-facts.htm

There are a ton of reasons to oppose fluoridation and mostly unfounded reasons to support it. There are two recent studies on fluoridation. The most recent and comprehensive is the National Research Council’s report http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/epa/nrc/press01.html

By R. M. Waldram

October 1, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this

Double-blind tested “toxic/allergic to fluorine-bearing compounds (fluorides)”, and aware 50% of all legally prescribed drugs (100% of all those used illegally) contain a fluoride base, I’m therefore aware “fluoride” is a bio-accumulative protoplasmic enzyme toxin (mutagenic, carcinogenic, teratogenetic)and that this fact has been deliberately withheld from public scrutiny for over 60 years, I’d suggest a behind-the-scenes investigattion before buying the water fluoridation “pig-in-a-poke.”

By Joe Thornton

October 1, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this

Fluoridation is contrary to fundamental medical principles: * Hippocratic oath — First, do no harm. (Fluorosis IS harm.) * Principle of informed consent — Patient has the right to refuse medication. * Modern toxicology — Fluoride is a deadly poison. * Modern pharmacology — Why force everyone to drink unmeasured amounts of F? * Modern endocrinology — F is an endocrine disruptor, according to the NRC (2006).

By Fluoride Action Network

October 1, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this

Take Action to End Fluoridation

http://www.FluorideAction.Net

Over 900 dentists, physicians, scientists and environmentalists urge Congress to stop water fluoridation until Congressional hearings are conducted. They cite new scientific evidence that fluoridation, long promoted to fight tooth decay, is ineffective and has serious health risks. (http://www.fluorideaction.org/statement.august.2007.html)

By aharddaysnight

October 1, 2007 8:03 AM | Link to this

Gee, Bill you a dentist now? I’ve been a dental assistant for over ten years and I’ve worked in urban and rural areas and let me tell you, you can always tell which kids live out in the country with well water and which ones get city water. Yes it’s true, you should cut back on sugar and soda but flouride in the water makes a huge difference in the oral health of children.

By nyscof

October 1, 2007 7:42 AM | Link to this

A recent study shows that “The majority of dental professionals surveyed were unaware of the current understanding of fluoride’s predominant posteruptive mode of action through remineralization of incipient carious lesions.” http://highwire.stanford.edu/cgi/medline/pmid;17899898

Smith hasn’t done his homework he he’s endangering your health

By Bill

October 1, 2007 7:13 AM | Link to this

The facts in this story are misleading. Fluoride ions in water does occur naturally, but silicofluoride fluoride, which is used to fluoridate water, is highly corrsive. Silicoflorides are scrubber liquors from the fertilizer industry that is a toxic substance controlled by the EPA. The best way to prevent tooth decay is to limit your intake of sugar and by getting fluoride treatments from your dentist. Vote no against silicoluroides.

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