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Monday, February 18, 2008
DAYTON — Obvious signs of criminal street gangs aren't so obvious anymore: The shaved eyebrow. The rolled up sleeve. The graffiti. The colors. Forget about all of that. Those giveaways aren't always there.
Gang communication has gone high tech, according to those on the front lines who are fighting the influence of gangs in Dayton.
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Johnny Vance, a probation officer with Montgomery County Juvenile Court Probation Services, has seen many wrinkles in gang culture in the 18 years he's been with the county.
He now supervises 35 to 40 probationers between the ages 12 and 17.
Gang members, like the rest of us, have gone online. They text message and hang out on social networking Web sites.
A recent random check of one popular social networking Web site by Dayton Daily News reporters turned up many juvenile clients trading information about parties and drugs.
Vance recalls that youngsters were stunned to learn probation officers knew what they were up to — treading on what they thought was their exclusive virtual turf.
Years ago, once the law had figured out elaborate gang alphabets and ornate graffiti, gangs knew it was time to shift methods.
"Kids knew they had to change and they did," Vance said.
He estimates 25 or so genuinely criminal gang groups with hundreds of members operate in Montgomery County. He says youngsters recruited into the gang life exhibit the "5 H's:
Helpless — a lack of self-esteem;
Hopeless — a feeling of no future;
Hungry — a need for nurturing and attention;
Homeless — no steady place to call home; and
Hugless — no love and affection in their life.
"We need to get to the dynamic of the kid behind the gang-banging," he said, "the core of the kid."
Coming out of the woodwork
It's a breakdown in communication within the family that leads to youngsters getting into the gang life, Vance said.
"While Junior is text messaging on MySpace, Mom has no idea because she is not communicating with him," Vance said.
The sheriff's office has created a reporting form — the Threat Group Identifier — that officers will require inmates to fill out.
"When I grew up, we didn't have this mass communication," said Michael Ford, 53, a 1970s-era Dayton gang member who turned his life around by turning his back on the gang life.
"Now, with cell phones, you can have a group together in 15 minutes. They come out of the woodwork."
From gang member to a lifesaver
Ford, who has been shot and bears scars from his youth that include a long and jagged knife wound, served time in prison.
After his release, he earned a degree in nursing from Wright State University and is now working to save lives. He's a nurse manager at the VA Medical Center and president of the Dayton Black Nurses Association.
"This is the last thing people thought I'd do," he said. "To patch your life together after you tear it apart is hell. It took a lot to make this change."
He has spoken at area schools and been active with community groups to dissuade youth from crime.
Ford tells kids that the successful rappers' music video images of stacks of cash and drug dealing are phony ones.
The successful ones are businessmen, not gangsters primed for the prison yard.
Ford also tells youngsters to not be afraid of being called "geeks" because they get good grades. A geek he knew in school has a new name now: boss.
"They need to find something in themselves, and not something in a group," he said. "College is the way to a means."
It's also a false idea that
to go to college you have to be "super smart." Said Ford: "It takes effort. That's all it is."
'Krunked for Life'
At Central State University, "Krunked for Life" youth empowerment program director Jimmy Cunningham hopes lessons about persistence sink in among the 25 young males he works with. (Krunked, in hip-hop slang, means "real good.")
The federally funded afternoon program, which meets Monday through Thursday, is pitched in a way that appeals to its target audience of ninth- and 10th-graders.
It works with them for three years and has skill-development sessions in rapping, disc jockeying, graffiti art and business development.
There are lessons in conflict resolution, anger management and language arts, too.
Cunningham worked in Little Rock, Ark., at a time when street gang activity there exploded.
"What I see here in the Dayton area is not in that extreme mode," he said. "But I know there is a gang presence in the area. I saw communities in denial about the presence of gangs. If a community doesn't accept the dynamics of what is occurring, out of nowhere, they look up and all of a sudden they have a huge problem."
Contact this reporter at (937) 225-7407 or sbennish@DaytonDailyNews.com.
Comments
By leprechaun
July 30, 2009 12:11 AM | Link to this
first off this is leprechaun people have to be real with themselves. life is rough for young black men and we turn to eachother for love honor and respect. we as a nation need to stand up for one another and be role models. when i made the choice i made years ago it was because i got the love i didnt get from my father who was always in and out of prison. dont look down on us we are just trying to make it. young black men stay strong and stay focused. 1 love leprechaun
By anonymous
July 18, 2009 10:43 AM | Link to this
No, they’re black and as ugly as they look. They hang out on our city porches smoking and dealing crack. A real nuisance and problem; i.e. loitering; soliciting; disturbing the peace. beat their asses black and blue thats what they deserve! Oi; oi; oi;
By Mark
May 6, 2009 8:22 PM | Link to this
We, too are disparaging of the violence that accompanies the rank poverty spurred on by the donimant society’s unwillingness to grant access to minorities seeking to better their station. Redlining, blackballing, white flight and socialogical racism are the seedbeds which gave rise to today’s minority urban gang cultures across America.
By Mark
May 6, 2009 8:15 PM | Link to this
It’s a shame society has created such a destructive gang/thug culture. The city planners have cultivated furtile soil for this activity here in Dayton. They’ve manufactured the very thing white society once feared in absentia when black migrated from the south. However few 20th century whites are even able to take into account that there were black people in Ohio in the 18th century (mine for one) before many of them. Who were never slaves, owned land with established lives and cultures.
By anonymous
March 8, 2009 10:54 AM | Link to this
TO YOUNG KING…
By anonymous
March 8, 2009 10:53 AM | Link to this
TO YOUNG KING…
By Anominous
February 18, 2009 6:56 PM | Link to this
My friends allmost died by walking into the middle of a gang fight in Daton. We were all suronded it was pure hell. we were lucky to get out of there alive.
By (CFK) KR!M$T3R (CFK)
January 24, 2009 2:44 PM | Link to this
Nahh peepz, i so hate haters , live from AMSTERDAM cfk cfk cfk !
F**k ALL CRITICS DIAMOND CUT they just bustin lyrics and aint that a b***h , the one’s that talkin shouldn be walking no mooooooo cuzzz he a snitch,now aint that a b***h!
All that crap talkin just some jibberish, support diamond cut to the fullest.
Come see GANGS in AMSTERDAM CFK CFK CFK CFK CFK Then throw up ya critics bout DIAMOND CUT an s**t in the CFK neighnourhoods!
F**k yall critics let a man get his paper!
By Ayuda
January 17, 2009 5:55 PM | Link to this
cont…you will hollow them out and thus put them out of existence.
By Ayuda
January 17, 2009 5:54 PM | Link to this
I work with kids from these areas, and yes, Dayton does have gangs.
The Surenos, i.e., MS-13 (Sur-13) are in Dayton. I don’t believe to such an extent as a previous poster has suggested, but it wont take long for your children to be sucked into this horseshit. Parents! Take an interest in your kids! These kids go there to run from bullies and to feel a part of something that will protect them. Streets ban together and watch your kids. If you cut off the gang “supply” of young children….
By Joseph Pettaway
January 10, 2009 10:50 AM | Link to this
Repent for the remission of your sins and be converted. Much love!
By Vona
December 31, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this
It’s so funny to see how white people think of the black man. You all ought to be ashamed of yourselves! But on another note, not in any way, shape, or form is DIAMOND CUT a gang.
By ME
December 27, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
The person killed in this article is my cousin. Anthony “Gooch” Dyer.. dont attempt to disrespect him or my aunt.. Gangs are everywhere and have been around a long time, most people join them 2 belong to something or be aprt of something..
By young king
December 23, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this
READ WHAT AMERICA THINKS ABOUT US.THIS IS WERE WE LEARNED IT FROM………………
By zach
Fkin worthless a niggers need to get a fking life. Motherfers think that they are some kind of big rap stars or something. I think they are all a bunch of punk a* pussies who can’t fight without carrying a gun. Faggots fkers need to get a job and a life and get the fk of of welfare. It’s funny to see these piece of sh* monkey’s jumping around like a bunch of baboons in their stupid a* looking cars.
By zach
December 18, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
Fkin worthless a niggers need to get a fking life. Motherfers think that they are some kind of big rap stars or something. I think they are all a bunch of punk a* pussies who can’t fight without carrying a gun. Faggots fkers need to get a job and a life and get the fk of of welfare. It’s funny to see these piece of sh* monkey’s jumping around like a bunch of baboons in their stupid a* looking cars. Bunch of wanna be’s GET A LIFE NIGGERS!!!!! YOU AINT SH*!
By young king
December 16, 2008 6:32 PM | Link to this
as long as there is police there will be gangs.The goverment is the most dangerous gang in the world. There will never b peace 4 African americans. Even with a black president in office.Its almost 2010 and this is a modern slave world. So do whatever i have to 2 survive………..
By danyelle
December 16, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this
i think this is a touching story its a really sad thing that this inocent family lost a love one over a little boy tryin to be a gangster and people think its all cool to go around and kill people well these little f**kin imature boys and girls need to grow up go home see your own family your loved too and you see where this boy is dead itll happen to you too f**k all the worthless time with gangs on who burned this color of rag shut up go to your family wats really important
By cHRIS
December 2, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this
D-Cut iza movement datz ALL!!!!!!!!!!
By cHRIS
December 2, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this
D-Cut iza movement datz ALL!!!!!!!!!!
By kelli
November 25, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this
… Dayton does have gangs. For someone to think of Dayton of not having gangs, that makes them uneducated as well. The Crips and The Bloods are not the only gangs sweetie. Lets not forget there are racial gangs, black and white, and all over the city of Dayton. Do not stereotype a gang, that will only get you no where in the end. Lastly, if you want to be affiliated with a group, but not labeled as something, make sure you know who is in the group and what they are about.
By kelli
November 25, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this
First of all, if this so called “gang” was doing something oh so great, then why would members choose to act like uneducated young people? Why would someone trying to make a difference let anyone fall back? I do not think this is a gang at all. When I think of a gang, I think of men or women of any age having each others back for anything, and a group of individuals ready to help someone in the gang when its needed. There is always something better to do than break the law.
By UNKNOWN!!!
September 28, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this
NO DAYTON DOES NOT HAVE GANGS COME ON THINK ABOUT IT IN CALI WHEN CRIPS SEE BLOODS ITS A SHOOTOUT IN DAYTON ITS JUST FRIENDS AND U REO WHAT U LOVE IN DAYTON THAT IS WHAT U R CLASSIFIED UNDER I MEAN YEA THEY KILL BUT THATS ONLY IF SOMEONE DID SOMETHING TO SOMEONE ELSE!!
By UNKNOWN!!!
September 28, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this
NO DAYTON DOES NOT HAVE GANGS COME ON THINK ABOUT IT IN CALI WHEN CRIPS SEE BLOODS ITS A SHOOTOUT IN DAYTON ITS JUST FRIENDS AND U REO WHAT U LOVE IN DAYTON THAT IS WHAT U R CLASSIFIED UNDER I MEAN YEA THEY KILL BUT THATS ONLY IF SOMEONE DID SOMETHING TO SOMEONE ELSE!!
By Robert
September 15, 2008 12:17 AM | Link to this
It’s not that THEY (Us) see something wrong in a gang, it’s WE (persons) who see a whole generation of white, black, or brown, youths being caught-up in crime as a meaningful pastime, or hobby. Crime means not-legal, anti-social and illicit use of freedom. The repercussions of glorifying crime, contempt for women, and salacious mentality will take years to fade out of young minds. Thanks for the memories…gangsters.
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By Ms. D
August 7, 2008 12:29 AM | Link to this
It’s about the choices people make,it’s not weather your a gang or not, its what you do !! THEY(the white man) see you as a gang because THEY dont know any better, all THEY (the white man) see is the bad in a few, but don’t see the good in others. Watch who you call your friends and surround yourself with,because what they do sometimes reflected on you, regaurdless if your a good person or not, in case you havent noticed, black men can never do any thing right in the white mans eye !!
By a Dayton Voter
August 6, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
Where the heck have the police been on this? I just read phil plummer talking about gangs. where have they been in harrison twp on this problem? No where, why because it is election come up he starts talking gangs? No gang before election? Dayton is working gangs, is the sheriff? I see gangs up and down n-dixie all the time, never see a sheriff
By bigg daddy
August 6, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this
this gang thing;it doesnt matter if it is or not!in the long run it wont be stopped anyway!i say let these people who are trying to do something with thier lives in this city where there is nothing,be free to be d cut!in whatever aspect of the group it is its their choice!so go ahead yall do the damn thang!
By Seriously
August 6, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
Gangs?? Really?? Is this LA in 1997 or something? These people need to grown up, gangs are so out of style. How stupid can people really be?
By Seriously
August 6, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this
Gangs?? Really?? Is this LA in 1997 or something? These people need to grown up, gangs are so out of style. How stupid can people really be?
By Hope I am Wrong
August 6, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this
Is this why Markelle Roston, the young man who was robbed at Gold 4 Ya Mouth, was killed? I pray that his affiliation with Diamond Cut was not the reason.
By Me
August 6, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
Mr. Billy (little willy) White, you sound like a real live a-hole and somebody need to gun you down.
By Ms. Renee
August 6, 2008 4:08 AM | Link to this
cont. I hope that Chaos the Community Serv-a does not falter with his music aspirations. I also hope that any other rapper or musician affilitated with this organization is able to go beyond the sterotype and achieve all their goals and dreams. And for those FEW members of Diamond Cut who wish to do nothing but drag the name of this group in the ground, kick rocks barefoot lames. All haters fall back..
By Ms. Renee
August 6, 2008 4:04 AM | Link to this
cont. I was very saddened to see that Diamond Cut was mentioned as a “gang” when certain young men who are affiliated with the group were arrested recently. Just because some members of an organization may have participated in these activites does not and should not classify the entire organization as a gang, if EVERYONE in this organization sold drugs it STILL does not classify it as a gang! I am praying for the MEN who represent Diamond Cut.
By Ms. Renee
August 6, 2008 4:01 AM | Link to this
For everyone who has left a comment I’d like to first recommend a tool called SPELLCHECK.. We are perceived as ignorant because we sound ignorant. Secondly. I do not believe that Diamond Cut is a gang. I know SEVERAL members who represent D-Cut and whereas they may have come from non-desirable communities I do not feel they should be called a gang. The purpose of D-Cut was Music, first and foremost. Anything else that stemmed from the collection of youth was purely coincidental.
By Ms. Renee
August 6, 2008 3:59 AM | Link to this
For everyone who has left a comment I’d like to first recommend a tool called SPELLCHECK.. We are perceived as ignorant because we sound ignorant. Secondly. I do not believe that Diamond Cut is a gang. I know SEVERAL members who represent D-Cut and whereas they may have come from non-desirable communities I do not feel they should be called a gang. The purpose of D-Cut was Music, first and foremost. Anything else that stemmed from the collection of youth was purely coincidental.
By evidently part of the problem
August 5, 2008 3:46 AM | Link to this
i just happened to see pillsbury dopeboy. funny thing is i am the creator of that whole ghetto products t-shirt trend including the dopeboy here i ATL my dopeboy was selling little bicuits in baggies.
but anyway its funny how things take on a life of their own.
By chaos
July 22, 2008 1:37 AM | Link to this
It really sickens me to know the whole city is now based upon “D CUT” BEING A GANG!! i just want to let the bloggers and readers know, as the founder, ceo of diamond cut, i have every intent to rid all of this ridicule. I’m willing to reach out to ANYONE; schools COMMUNITY CENTERS(if theres any left) to educate them not only about how important it is to stay in school but also about DIAMOND CUT AND OTHER “LOCAL GANGS”.i would like DETECTIVE CHAD KNIGHT to give me the opportunity to do so.
By britt
July 20, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this
BTW…I was reading a blurb about the King of Krunk. He bragged that it stood for drunk on crack. along with his violent life stle leads for a great role model. Did the scholl do any research at all here?
By britt
July 20, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this
BTW…I was reading a blurb about the King of Krunk. He bragged that it stood for drunk on crack. along with his violent life stle leads for a great role model. Did the scholl do any research at all here?
By niece
July 13, 2008 7:42 PM | Link to this
i hate that the city sees our young people this. young men that have nothing else in this city claim an organization and are automatically portrayed as thugs and drug dealers. the problem truly lies within the city. they are closing our school, no more funding for city events, no parks, no movies, no malls and the wonder why these young men kill, steal, and destroy? that, of course, is no excuse, but in a city where every body knows some body that knows somebody. you tend to get this effect.
By britt
July 12, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
The whole thing sickens me!. Hearing about these poor kids being profiled for dress, hait or tattos is a joke. Period!!!! If it looks like a thug, quacks like thug or waddles like a duck w its pants hanging below its a thug. The whole rap culture is a slap in the face of all thats decent. The sooner you kill yourselves the better for all. At least when you shoot eachother your not out snagging a seniors purse or selling dope to kids. I despise you and wish all things evil upon you.
By britt
July 12, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
The whole thing sickens me!. Hearing about these poor kids being profiled for dress, hait or tattos is a joke. Period!!!! If it looks like a thug, quacks like thug or waddles like a duck w its pants hanging below its a thug. The whole rap culture is a slap in the face of all thats decent. The sooner you kill yourselves the better for all. At least when you shoot eachother your not out snagging a seniors purse or selling dope to kids. I despise you and wish all things evil upon you.
By MidnightMan53
July 11, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
I’d say from reading some of these post some of these people need an education. Some of you need to learn how to spell and talk. As for gang members they should be exterminated like the insects they are.
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By Peter D. Slaughter
May 27, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this
I remember this story and I still have a tape by Akil the rapper that told the story about this young brother. I grew up in the city when the black kid’s had Skateland downtown that kept me and a lot of us out of trouble. As soon as Skateland was closed and the old WDAO FM was taken off the air. This is when all dope came pouring into the black community of the city. Conscious Hip Hop was censored,which has a played a role in this problem.So now all you hear is all this distorted madness
By Maddog
May 26, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this
How did Michael Ford get hired by the U.S. Government at the VA if he is a felon?
By Young Bread Getter
May 19, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this
D-CUT NO GANG ITS PLAIN WE ALL RAPPERS!!! ITS A MUSICAL MOVEMENT AND WE SHOULD BE TREATED AS SO.YES SOME WHO ARE IN THE RAP GROUP D-CUT HAVE CHOSE TO GO DOWN THE WRONG ROAD BUT PEOPLE DO EVERYDAY…DOES THAT MAKE THEM GANG MEMBERS??? YOU PEOPLE ARE PUTTING A TAG ON US LIKE WE ARE SOME TYPE OF ANIMAL.WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING IN MUSIC WITCH WE LOVE!!I AM A ARTIST NOT A GANG MEMBER!! FAM FIRST ENT. IS OUR RECORD LABEL..DIAMOND CUT IS NO GANG!! DZZZZZ UP!!
By Young Bread Getter
May 19, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this
D-CUT NO GANG ITS PLAIN WE ALL RAPPERS!!! ITS A MUSICAL MOVEMENT AND WE SHOULD BE TREATED AS SO.YES SOME WHO ARE IN THE RAP GROUP D-CUT HAVE CHOSE TO GO DOWN THE WRONG ROAD BUT PEOPLE DO EVERYDAY…DOES THAT MAKE THEM GANG MEMBERS??? YOU PEOPLE ARE PUTTING A TAG ON US LIKE WE ARE SOME TYPE OF ANIMAL.WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING IN MUSIC WITCH WE LOVE!!I AM A ARTIST NOT A GANG MEMBER!! FAM FIRST ENT. IS OUR RECORD LABEL..DIAMOND CUT IS NO GANG!! DZZZZZ UP!!
By Young Bread Getter
May 19, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
D-CUT NO GANG ITS PLAIN WE ALL RAPPERS!!! ITS A MUSICAL MOVEMENT AND WE SHOULD BE TREATED AS SO.YES SOME WHO ARE IN THE RAP GROUP D-CUT HAVE CHOSE TO GO DOWN THE WRONG ROAD BUT PEOPLE DO EVERYDAY…DOES THAT MAKE THEM GANG MEMBERS??? YOU PEOPLE ARE PUTTING A TAG ON US LIKE WE ARE SOME TYPE OF ANIMAL.WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING IN MUSIC WITCH WE LOVE!!I AM A ARTIST NOT A GANG MEMBER!! FAM FIRST ENT. IS OUR RECORD LABEL..DIAMOND CUT IS NO GANG!! DZZZZZ UP!!
By gj
May 6, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this
i am from dayton grad of dunbar high school i now live in san diego,ca and i must say dayton dose not have gangs. the so called gangs in dayton are fake wana be’s. i bet all of you that none of the so called gangs would not last a day in L.A. YOUR GANGS IN DAYTON ARE FAKE AND NOT AT ALL REAL. STOP LETTING THEM THINK THEY ARE SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU GUYS DON’T NO WHAT IT’S LIKE TO WAKE UP AND HAVE TO DRESS DEPENDING WHAT SIDE OF THE CITY YOUR ON THAT DAY. IF YOU WANT TO SEE REAL GANGS COME TO CALI
By gj
May 6, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this
i am from dayton grad of dunbar high school i now live in san diego,ca and i must say dayton dose not have gangs. the so called gangs in dayton are fake wana be’s. i bet all of you that none of the so called gangs would not last a day in L.A. YOUR GANGS IN DAYTON ARE FAKE AND NOT AT ALL REAL. STOP LETTING THEM THINK THEY ARE SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU GUYS DON’T NO WHAT IT’S LIKE TO WAKE UP AND HAVE TO DRESS DEPENDING WHAT SIDE OF THE CITY YOUR ON THAT DAY. IF YOU WANT TO SEE REAL GANGS COME TO CALI
By DJ Biz E Bee
May 6, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
If the local government would take action as opposed to turning the other cheek, this wouldn’t be going on like it is. I don’t mean the po-po’z but the elected city officials. Everytime I come home I ride up 3rd St and see all the empty lots and condemned buildings. It’s a total heartbreaker for me. Take all the convicts, put them on a prison plane, drop them in Baghdad and if they survive then they get probation when they return. Go get your turf war on and sell your dope there!
By DJ Biz E Bee
May 6, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this
I thought Iraq was bad, but Dayton’s off the chain now. Never had a problem at home… in any area within Daytons city limits. Growing up in Westwood, we used to go all directions and have fun where ever we stopped. Young peeps doing ya thang… I DJ now in Houston and will play a dedicated song to the craziness at home now… Every party will start with “DRS”-Gansta Lean. If your old school you should know the song. Just to set the record straight, yes I still do come home. C Ya soon!!!
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By Mr Bill White
April 30, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this
Ask any Cop which are the busiest precincts with the most violent crime… Dayton has a BLACK Crime problem AND this is an epidemic around the country
75% of black births are to single moms now, thats a crisis
Far as Im concerned, the Black community needs More gun stores & more Liquor stores.
Operation Neighborhood Cleanup. Let them kill on another.
Dont blame the media, or the schools, or the government, or Bush or the alien space invaders. Blame the Parents, & parenting or lackof
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