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By brickhouse

April 29, 2008 12:28 AM | Link to this

Didn’t we elect these council members? Let them do their thankless jobs. Speaking of jobs… do you have a job? Perhaps you should get back to work and leave the blogging to 12 year olds.

By gw

April 22, 2008 10:22 PM | Link to this

This is really getting old. If the city council did anything illegal, why doesn’t someone prove it? Looks more like someone has started a rumor-campaign hoping that it will catch on and substitute for facts. The only problem is that the rebel-rousers are damaging the whole city while playing their game, but maybe that’s part of their plan. There should be consequences for that. The Dayton Daily shouldn’t be a party to this. Why don’t you start investigating these rumor-mongers?

By MayKnow

April 21, 2008 8:08 PM | Link to this

The HuberPolitics blog was completely deleted once a community member questioned the content, the inappropriate bashing of employees, fellow council members, community business members, and other community members who attended council meetings. It did infact shed some light on those people making the postings, those of which claim they aren’t guilty of trying to run the day to day operations of the city. Goes to show those that go around claiming to be a christian maybe aren’t?

By dave

April 21, 2008 8:14 AM | Link to this

Ashley,

Evidently, Mr. Huberpolitics couldn’t afford to pay for his trash talking forum. It wasn’t much of a blog anyways. That you Steven?

By Ashley

April 20, 2008 8:50 PM | Link to this

Does anyone happen to have the address to the huber politics blog? At one time I had it bookmarked but the link does not seem to be operating?

By not bitter

April 20, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

LOL, So is this place the new “Babble-on”? (Sorry, I couldn’t help myself)

By John

April 20, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

I don’t understand why Kaleps claims that “issues” were allowed to fester in 07 & 08 when the 3-union ltr of Aug 19th 07 suggests that there was something seriously wrong in HH long before that. I’ve lived here many years and appreciate the hard work of all our city employees. Why would the employees of HH have written that ltr if council had not made it a practice to interfere for a long time.

By Torqued Off

April 20, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

OK Finally!!! - I accept your challenge. I would love to run for one of the many post-recall vacancies on Council. When the replacement Council members bring integrity and honesty to the Council it will definitely be a first for this City.

By Mad Citizen

April 20, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

(Finally!!!) you obviously forgot the response to you on 4/16: “As for the other 4 votes? BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA”

That’s the way this council operates - hope the citizens forget everything so the council can go back to violating the City Charter at will and with impunity.

By Finally!!!

April 20, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

What’s interesting to me is how Kaleps, Hensley, and Ellis are never mentioned in these postings. If there is so much dirt on everyone then why didn’t these three do something to leverage Fisher, Morgan, and Campbell? If anyone should be getting blasted shouldn’t it be the three who didn’t have the guts to stand up against the evil acts of the “rulers of Huber Heights”. My dad always told me that poor leaders have no enemies…instead of running your mouths with fake emails, run for office.

By Finally!!!

April 20, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

Why is it that if someone doesn’t side with Armocida and her lapdogs it must automatically be Morgan or Campbell. Even if it was Council members on here venting, is that not any different than what you all are doing? Honestly, looking at the names of some of these emails, you can tell who is legitimate and who isn’t. Is this Cathy posting all these comments? It seems to me that Council pushed some buttons and now Cathy’s oscar worthy performace has been shown for what it was…a farce.

By Torqued Off

April 20, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

I watched the Council meeting on TV when those jerks terminated the City Manager. Did I see Seth’s mommy in the audience? I’ll bet she was there to change his diaper after Campbell put him up to make the motion to terminate the CM.

I’m conflicted - do we vote for Morgan for state rep and get him out of Huber Heights, or do WE do the right thing and not give him a chance to ruin the State of Ohio? At state level he’ll be a minnow among sharks and won’t have Campbell to school him.

By Mad Citizen

April 20, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

Torqued Off makes a good point. Why isn’t the DDN investigating HH Council activities - or maybe they are? Why aren’t they investigating an absentee Mayor who continues to get paid with taxpayer dollars. - or maybe they are?

Watch the HH Council on TV. Every meeting they vote to excuse the Mayor’s absence, yet no one ever seems to know where he is or why he is still missing. Even his own brother on Council claims to not know. Believe me, the taxpayers want - no, demand to know.

By Torqued Off

April 20, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

To In Reponse (probably Campbell) and Finally!! (probably Morgan). I’ve been following this saga and your inane posts only prove the city managers allegations. You are now trying to smear her publicly while hiding behind your keyboard.

Which staff member will you go after next if they don’t do your bidding?

Dayton Daily - wake up and investigate these buffoons!!!!

By mel

April 20, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

I agree with Sad, the only way to be taken seriously, or believed, is to stand by your words and not hide from them. Otherwise it is just so much babble.

By Sad

April 19, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this

Dear “person with integrity”, if you are speaking the truth you have nothing to fear. If you are not, then I can understand your fear of being exposed.

By Person with Integrity

April 19, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this

SAD SAID: Let’s see, who is more credible - named sources who are not afraid to be accountable for their words, or anonymous bloggers who just trash-talk? POOR SAD… YOU CONFUSE “TRASH TALK” WITH THE TRUTH AND YOU KNOW IT. UNDER THE PROTECTION OF ANONYMITY WE ARE SAFE FROM YOU! AND WE CAN STILL GET THE WORD OUT WITHOUT BEING PUNISHED… ISN’T IT FRUSTRATING? KIND OF LIKE WORKING AND LIVING IN HH WITH YOU IN CITY HALL!

By long time warriors

April 19, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

We agree with meangrandma……Huber Heights is a war zone/ghetto1!!! We need to wake up to the destruction of this city. And the school board needs to open their eyes……Wayne High School needs metal detectors….We are not in Mayberry and Barney Fife is not our deputy. Karen Weaver-Cox, you need to wake up before we have a Columbine diasater here in Huber Heights. Let the council bury themselves and you focus on the safety of our kids. HHCS are just like Dayton Public

By not bitter

April 19, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

I can’t help but wonder if all these negative posts are being made by the same person. They sure sound alike.

By Sad

April 19, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

Thank goodness we’re finally getting some answers, in the newspaper. Let’s see, who is more credible - named sources who are not afraid to be accountable for their words, or anonymous bloggers who just trash-talk?

By Jeff

April 19, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

To all.. Its not the fired city managers that are the issue but the incompetant and ruthless city council who is operating with their own agenda and doesn”t care what happens in the city as long as their political ambitions are realized. They have been over the years ruthless, back stabbing and completely oblivious to the needs and concerns of the city and employees. The city managers are just more of their victims.. Wise up Huber Heights.You are victims and YOU have the ability to cause change

By TiredofTerror

April 19, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

The fire just keeps backfiring. All is not lost Seth, we do hope you get elected to some office, any office, since you run for everything that is open, just do us a favor and run somewhere other than Montgomery County.

By TiredofTerror

April 19, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

These followers are not exempt from Mark Campbell’s reign of terror. He is the dirt slinger and willing to exploit people to get his way. Such a master manipulator, he twisted the towing contract inside out and back again until he got the resolve he wanted…why? Anyone’s guess? Favors, kickbacks? And he’s trained Seth Morgan to be just like him. Afterall, he needs a campaign forum, just not smart enough to come up with a valid one, so he explodes city issues so in the end, he can resolve them.

By TiredofTerror

April 19, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

No back door deals, Ms. Armocida had authorization to negotiate on behalf of the city and did, presented a complete package to Council in public forum for passage. They are mad they didn’t get to pick it apart in their little destructive committees. As far as Ms. Kaleps comment about the public perception of a dysfunctional council, you said it and they get it! Karen Weaver-Cox, perhaps concentrating on the terrors (Mark Campbell, Seth Morgan) will put the followers back on track.

By TiredofTerror

April 19, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

This is a wake up call for citizens. You cannot trust your elected officials to guide the city in a forward direction. They violate the city charter daily (interference, policy for personal gain, phone calls to department heads, etc., etc.) and have for years. Could Ms. Armocida be difficult, absolutely, however, she always took the route that was right for the city and the taxpayers. As far as having dirt on Council..no doubt, see comment above. To be continued

By William S.

April 19, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

I paid top-dollar to move into my beautiful home that was supposed to be beside a golf course. My blood boils every time I pull into the complex and see the sign that has a golf reference in its name and then as I pull around the drive back to mine and see the weed-infested field with the “road to nowhere” and I wonder what in the world the council is thinking. A city manager can’t make such deals without council knowing full-well what is going on. They need to resign!

By tough enough

April 19, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

HH City Council: You are going to loose two more department heads soon. They have seen the writing on the wall and are probably going to get out if means permit! More are looking and I don’t blame them… I imagine when the dust settles you will fire the police chief because you have blamed, as the headline reads, this whole thing on some police policy problem. He’ll find another job. BUT - how will you EVER repair this city’s reputation?

By In Response

April 19, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

TO COUNCIL: Shame on each one of you for: eating out of her hands when she was Finance Director… allowing her to – throughout the years - continuously fire competent employees…listening and encouraging her to pit you (council) against Pierce…firing Pierce and then promoting her to the City Manager position…and allowing her as City Manager to surround herself with her own posse. Now – she is spewing her venom on you (council) to try to make herself look innocent and battered.

By In Response

April 19, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

And the “dirt” comment…anyone who knows Armocida knows that what has transpired this week is only expected from a woman with no scruples, morals, and ethics.
Thank goodness - dirty, filthy politics has finally bit Armocida! Hooray – she’s gone! And for all of you that feel sorry for her…either you conformed to her Rule and did not have a backbone and speak up for what was right…or you simply never worked for her.

By In Response

April 19, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

Lastly – TO ARMOCIDA: Save the world/work force and drive off in your ‘lil Mercedes to your CA vineyards and drink yourself silly!

By a person who obviously lives in a hick-town

April 19, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

I agree with the comment that a storm is coming! I am looking forward to it. Then maybe there will be enough left afterwards to build a nice city in ol’ Wayne Township. Definately time for a change in city council. Let’s get the recalls going and vote in some people who govern for the RIGHT reasons! I am thoroughly embarrassed with what this council has done! Who on earth is going to want to come here and be our new manager after they way council has made fools of us?

By In Response

April 19, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

TO JEFF: When Armocida was a direct report to Pierce, she spent countless work hours campaigning against Pierce for years, behind his back, w/continual calls and private meetings w/council members, and ranting & raging to her employees of how she was going to get Pierce fired. TO DAVE: Jim Bowers..seriously – that was her “yes mam” boy. For many yrs they were in together on many of the firings when he was just the HR Director..and then he became her Asst. City Mgr? How convenient!

By A LONG time coming...

April 19, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

I have some questions for our council: Where have most of your department heads gone? Why are more leaving? What has become of tenure and “careers” in our city government? Do we have a Planning and Development Director? Do we have an HR Director? You have bullied and forced out SO many people that the city’s employees are running their own departments (which they do not get paid for) - and you choose NOW to fire your city manager?????? You have terrified your employees in city hall for years!

By In Response

April 19, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

TO JEFF: And – you want to know why Pierce was fired? When Armocida was a direct report to Pierce, she spent countless work hours: campaigning against Pierce for years, behind his back, with continual calls and private meetings with council members, and ranting and raging to her employees of how she was going to get Pierce fired.
TO DAVE: Jim Bowers…seriously – that was her “yes mam” boy. For many years they were in together on many of the firings when he was just the HR Director…and th

By In Response

April 19, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

To CITIZENATLARGE: Yes let’s do have the media talk with former employees about Armocida. They are the ones who also had “dedicated” their “life to making this city a better place to live and work” - and were the recipients of an “escalated campaign of terror and initimidation” by her. Armocida is the one who created a “hostile work environment with constant unrest and continuous turnover of key staff.” And, she is the one that “seek”ed “career-ending retribution against employees…”

By Wake Up Huber Heights

April 19, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

To our city council in Huber Heights: “WHAT you are screams so loudly in my ears that I cannot hear what you say!”

By Wake Up Huber Heights

April 19, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

The mayor is not able to perform his function - ask Mark Campbell. It’s not just the alcohol this time… STILL wandering about the check that city council FORCED the police chief to write to keep his job! I know copies of it exist…… Listen closely Mark and Ron… the skeletons in your closets are very noisy lately… hope they don’t get out…. How does it feel to be treated the way you treat your employees? There is a storm coming………… are you ready?

By Finally!!!

April 19, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

Hey CitizenAtLarge…Couldn’t the same be said of Armocida? She came out swinging after apparently (as came out yesterday) having the opportunity to resign numerous times and save face. Is she not using the media to gain public support from sheeple like you? As far as the comments about her being as good as Pierce, doesn’t that speak for itself? Didn’t he get fired due to corruption or incometence in both Huber and in Iowa?(reader’s digest version)?

By WiseCitizen

April 19, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

If council is all in agreement in the firing of Cathy? Where were the rest of the council for the local news press conference. Could it be they did not know about it? It was obvious Monday night that Jan, Judy and Jim Ellis knew nothing about going into Executive Session to fire Cathy leave alone other personel matters as referred to be Karen Kaleps. It is obvious who is running the city by the show of faces at this press conference and COULD SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHERE IS THE MAYOR?

By CitizenAtLarge

April 19, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

One question; if this city council is so trustworthy, why hold a press conference with the media to tell their side? Why not let the truth come out and maybe vindicate them. Why? because they are trying to cover their rein of terror and intimidation. Why doesnt the media talk with current and former employees? Moral is at it’s lowest with city staff, just ask them. They all live in fear of who’s next? Cathy was a great leader and so was Jim Pierce.

By Dave

April 19, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this

You mean BLOG Posts like this one…

August 28th, 2007 It has come to my attention that over recent weeks, our City Manager has been trying to act as though she is the supreme ruler of Huber Heights . A few weeks ago at a committee meeting she actually had the audacity to speak about information from an Executive Session of council. When warned not to do that by the City Attorney she said that she was going to do it anyway and that council could “fire her if they need to” over it. The tension in the City between staff and council is growing daily it seems. It seems as though Cathy Armocida is begging to be disciplined…or fired. Why hasn’t this happened? Well, I can only assume that is in relation to a comment made on this blog recently concerning unions and their influence in the City as “Pit Bulls”. It was also made very public that if Cathy or her henchman Jim Bowers were to be disciplined or fired that they would be forced to take action against Council. Where Jim Bowers comes into play I have not been able to nail down yet. He has been around since the Jim Pierce days so who knows what sort of shady stuff he is capable of. Why the “pants” title? At last night’s council meeting, about which there will be a separate post, Cathy wore pants for the first time I think in her long history with the City. (none of us are complaining they are far more flattering than the mini-skirts we have been forced to endure for years) Was this a signal to the City and Council that she wears the pants? We will have to wait and see. On a related note, if Cathy was going for the manly look, Jim Bowers was going for the metrosexual look with his cute neon blue tie and matching shirt. He looked like he walked straight off the Queer Eye TV show. Around all the HHFD and HHPD guys that were there he really just screamed “manliness” let me tell you. More to come, I’m sure… No Comments » | Uncategorized | Permalink Posted by huberpolitics

By Jeff

April 19, 2008 8:01 AM | Link to this

As a former employee of Huber Hts for many years, I worked with the fired city manager and she was difficult but fair and loyal to the city. The council does rule by intimidation and with the current group it is at an all time high. There are several members of council that are more worried about their political ambitions then the well fare of the city. Just ask this. Why has the last two competant managers been fired for almost the same reason. Answer: City council and by the same members.

By TimeforTruth

April 19, 2008 7:12 AM | Link to this

Ask this council about the blog “huber politcs” where SOMEONE had his campaign manager update, while COUNCIL MEMBERS posted numerous jabs, criticisms, and down right cruel postings about city staff, community business members,and council members, Surely others must have seen this blog. The media needs copies of that blog. Why doesn’t someone check out what players contribute to this council’s campaign’s when they run for office?

By TimeforTruth

April 19, 2008 7:00 AM | Link to this

This is statement is nothing but a way for this council to cover their tracks, they have told lie after lie this week to the media. They are running a rein of terror and chaos and have been for sometime Mark Campbell has his puppets do all the work and he sits back like he had nothing to do with it. It is has been said you are guilty by association and they are all guilty because this chaos and hostility is this councils doing. If their is unrest by city staff they have created it.

By Frank Lawson

April 19, 2008 6:10 AM | Link to this

I think city council is doing a fine job.As far as Mark Campbell he has always treated me fair

By Frank Lawson

April 19, 2008 6:09 AM | Link to this

I think city council is doing a fine job.As far as Mark Campbell he has always treayed me fair

By Sad

April 18, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

In response to the anonymous (big surprise) question re: spewing venon: “venom”: a poisonous substance, commonly associated with snakes. to “spew venom”: to attempt to influence minds by poisoning them with inflammatory or derogatory remarks/innuendo, usually associated with personal agendas and characterized by lack of truth, accuracy, and civil dialogue.

By Weallknow

April 18, 2008 7:36 AM | Link to this

WOW it’s up to $368,000.00 in severance packages, will we hit a million before the year is up, will there be a new sign made with a person carrying boxes out of City Hall, “your tax dollars at work”?

By Wake Up Huber Heights

April 17, 2008 11:14 PM | Link to this

But what scares me is… EVERY PERSON WHO WANTS TO PUT IN FOR THE NEW CITY MANAGER JOB IS GOING TO DO WHAT FIRST??? YES, THEY ARE GOING TO “GOOGLE” HUBER HEIGHTS - AND THEY ARE GOING TO SAY “..OH, I DON’T WANT ANY PART OF THAT MESS!” And we are buidling so much around here - market researchers are going to see all of this lack of stability going on and locate in Englewood and Vandalia. Watch it happen…

By Wake Up Huber Heights

April 17, 2008 11:08 PM | Link to this

Hmmm - they call an EMERGENCY meeting tonight huh? Then the ol’ “executive session”. They crack me up. Heaven forbid this whole mess be cleaned up IN FRONT of us citizens! Their lack of backbone sickens me. I read that Karen Kaleps said something to the effect of “…the citizens should walk a mile in our shoes before they get mad…” and I am still laughing!!!! The HH City Council has created their own problems! Might as well get rid of your fire and police chiefs now. The you can run it all!

By MDR

April 17, 2008 9:10 PM | Link to this

Hey Karen Weaver (HYPHEN) Cox, as an elected member of the Huber Heights City School Board, how are the student test scores??? Are they tops in the area??? Are there any programs in place to help at-risk students??? Any drug counseling??? Any behaviorial problem counseling??? Do you know??? Is the budget on track or will you be coming to the voters with your hand out as always in a year or two??? Concentrate on school issues and let the elected Council Members resolve City issues.

By remy171@aol.com

April 17, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this

remy171@aol.com….I am curious to what venom is being spewed?….You obviously don’t have a clue. You also don’t have any first hand knowledge about the actions of HH council members. You can’t make this stuff up. In short time when the truth comes out you can come on here and spout about venom. Least I can tell you “I told ya so”

By Sad

April 17, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

I think I get it now. This must be the place for all of the folk who would rather spew venom than deal in “truth” or “accuracy”. That really is sad.

By t

April 17, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

Who appoints the CM? Oh, thats right, council. They are to blame across the board. HH council wants to get rid of anyone they can’t control. When someone steps up to them, they get fired. It isn’t council’s job to be a puppeteer. That’s all they are. Let’s see how long they last when the idiotic ward systems goes bye-bye. There is a reason things are set up the way they are. Maybe because the Campbell’s, Kalep’s, and Hensley’s were the ones that enabled the charter to be what it is today. Has everyone forgotten that the Studebaker’s and Campbell’s have been tight since day one? It just so happens a late night call is placed and the good ‘ol boy system takes effect again. Studebaker is the only one they could find with short notice to be the puppet they need to run things.

Someone who has never worked in the public sector is responsible for the day to day operations of a city. How comfortable are you HH taxpayers with that? You people need to step up and regain control of your city as taxpayers. If you think the stagnant good ‘ol boy system in HH is doing anything positive for you, think again. Look at the back scratching that goes on. How many of them have business relationships together outside of council? You think they are able to gather the troops against the sheep? Absolutely.

By not bitter

April 17, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

What if the council doesn’t know about secret deals and agendas by CMs until after the voting is done?

By t

April 17, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

Not Bitter…

That council approved that CM’s plan. Don’t blame the CM, blame the council for allowing the project to go through. The CM didn’t go at it alone. He was to execute what the legislative branch agreed to. Valryn, look into the check the Chief was told to write or be fired. Weaver….get a petition started to revise the charter. It is need of an overhaul. Look at surrounding cities for examples. Guess what, they don’t have problems like HH due to their charters.

By Weallknow

April 17, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

Not bitter, better get a clue, that was the last City Manager they fired with yet another hefty severance package, as I recall that issue has been resolved since she took the City Manager position.

By not bitter

April 17, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

Maybe the Benchrock mess, etc, made the council see the NEED for more oversight & involvement to prevent such recklessness & abuses again. Maybe we’ll see that the council members trashed here are really the city’s best defenders.

By Weallknow

April 17, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

It’s about time we clean up council, where do I sign?

By Wake Up Huber Heights

April 16, 2008 11:30 PM | Link to this

Hey Gene - I have lost count of the number of meetings I have been to… so thanks for the invite. The informative writer just before you forgot to mention the check. You know - the check that Police Chief Borland was forced to write from his personal account at home to keep his job. Hey Val - why no inquiry about this check a council member told the police chief he would have to write to keep his job? Sure are a lot of us taxpayers that would like to hear more…

By geno

April 16, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this

Wow, interesting comments.
How many of these people have even been to or watched a council meeting? This series of blogs aren’t generally worth replying to. Wait till the meeting at 7:00 PM Monday 4/28 and attend for some facts. It will blow a lot of minds. It is time for change because of mainly one who thinks he is king of Huber. I look forward to a packed house, get there early. I’m not afraid to leave my name, LOL gene

By eyeno

April 16, 2008 9:40 PM | Link to this

Citizens of Huber Heights, WAKE UP!!

I know you are busy, you are tired, and you are distracted. But we have to pay attention to this issue, in our own self interest. No other entity has the direct effect on our lives that local government has. We pay 2.25% of our income and a portion of our property taxes to the city. This amounts to millions of dollars a year, and how well our council and staff handles these dollars determines whether our roads get fixed (or not), our police protects us (or not), and the fire department responds to our emergencies (or not). City Council has interfered with city staff doing their jobs since the inception of the city in 1981. The City Charter is poorly written (intentionally so) and provides very few protections to the city manager and staff from this interference. Did you know that the Charter was written by current city council member Karen Kaleps and her husband? This is why it does not contain term limits or any penalties for charter violations committed by council. The most offensive example of council interference is Mark Campbell’s constant intimidation of city managers relative to their staffs. Campbell has personally ordered the firings of the following staff members: Police Captain-Steve Menard ($60,000), City Manager -Jim Pierce ($70,000), Zoning Officer- Marva Colston($55,000), Deputy City Manager -Kevin Carver($28,000), Public Works Superintendent- John Mitchell ($0), Human Resources Director- Brian Bennett($0), Zoning Supervisor -Denise Walton ($25,000). The dollar figure after each name is the severance money paid to the person being fired so they would “resign” instead of being fired, and also sign an agreement not to sue the city.

How, you ask, can one council member order a city manager to fire someone? The conversation goes like this: “You need to fire ‘X’. If you don’t, I have enough votes on council to fire YOU.” So while Campbell is to blame for these actions, the remainder of council is equally to blame for allowing this to happen. So why was Cathy Armocida fired? Because she was the first City Manager with the guts to tell Campbell “NO”. During her short tenure, Campbell ordered her to fire the City Engineer, John Geiger, Police Chief Jim Borland, Deputy Police Chief Robert Schommer, and Human Resources Director Jim Bowers. She refused. And once she had defied Campbell, she lasted only until he had the votes to fire her.

By What goes around...

April 16, 2008 7:24 PM | Link to this

I had the misfortune of working under Cathy Aromocida’s rule. She was an absolute tyrant. Regardless of the reason, I’m glad she’s gone!!!!

By Recall of City Council

April 16, 2008 7:18 PM | Link to this

When all city council members, who voted to oust the City Manager, can say is, “Your Services are no longer needed”, they prove themselves to have a credibiility problem. I just read an excellent editorial by Karen Weaver-Cox in the Courier clearly and factually stating the argument against firing our City Manager, and I have seen nothing comparable in print why, other than, “Your Services are no longer needed”. When an organization is formed to recall certain council members, count me in.

By Wake Up Huber Heights

April 16, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

Hey HH City Council…

Better wake the Drunk, OOPS - I mean the MAYOR…

There is a storm coming ~

Are you ready?

By huber resident

April 16, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

some members of the school board may need to be concerned about the fact that 64% of property taxes go to support the huber city schools. alot of retired and fix income home owners can not afford to keep their homes. maybe they should try to manage any waste there might be in their own area. many of the huber heighs city council are responsible for a lot of good things in huber heights. i thinks they care deeply about this community and we should wait for all the fact to come out.

By dave

April 16, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

Duckro, is that you?

By Get a Clue Sad Son of Sam

April 16, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

Your post below just proved my point! YOU ARE A RETARD!

By Sad

April 16, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

Okay, I guess this proves my point. (Never been to Indo-China, don’t get the relevance).

Wow, how do some people “make it” in this world!

By Sad

April 16, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

Okay, I guess this proves my point. (Never been to Indo-China, don’t get the relevance).

By Tony

April 16, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

People, quit insulting KY by comparing it to Huber Heights. At least KY has space and fresh air.

By Observed it

April 16, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

How many of you have attended a council meeting? Recently because of an issue in my neighborhood I attended several. When you observe body language and comments by various board members you can tell which ones are the leaders, who are the followers and who are tend to sway votes. Do I believe the board tried to tell city employees what to do, Yes, it was obvious at the meetings there was an undertone of a power struggle.

By Commander in Chief

April 16, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

I am a firm believer that Wal-Mart is an enormous drain on public services. The worthless corporation should be mandated to provide for their own police and fire services. Why should the tax payers have to provide this service for them FREE of charge?

By Get a Clue ----> Remy171@aol.com

April 16, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

It is a free country. If you dont like what people have to say, dont read it! Go back to indo-china your freaking liberal hillary lover!

By bitter

April 16, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

Ah, yes, down with all the council!!! Never mind that they work for very little compensation and take many hours away from their family and job to serve their community. It’s a thankless job where some group is always mad about some decision. Maybe we’re just - bitter.

By Just me

April 16, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

I hear that the HH Little League will make the news soon.

By Mad Citizen

April 16, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

Finally!!! the reality is the extraordinary number of citizens that have posted here to support the city manager and universally hate the Council. Another reality is that many in Huber believe Seth to be Mark’s boy toy and nothing more. As for the other 4 votes?

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

By t

April 16, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

Get rid of wards and having council members sit on committees. Other cities in the area that don’t have corruption, and they don’t have wards and committees with council on them. The charter stinks. Karen needs to start with a petition to change the charter. This will curb a ton of the issues.

By Sad

April 16, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

Apparently I’m not used to the kind of format where “free speech” means people can anonymously post death wishes, spread hate, and make up “facts” without ever being accountable or standing on what they say. I don’t think this is what our founding fathers had in mind. I’m saddened and surprised that DDN, who normally requires full disclosure from people for their words/opinions, would promote this kind of mud-slinging on either side. Where does “truth” or “accuracy” fit in?

By GC

April 16, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

Huber Hts = Hubriar Lows

By Patsy

April 16, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

After reading about the problems in Huber Heights,which we have lived here for 20 years +,it is time to change the charter and cut City council out. Do they even live in Huber? The people on City Council are only on it to get what they can get for themselves.They don’t care about the city which shows.Why don’t we have a festival like other cities do?The Council did away with our 4th of July festival. Why are taxes so high?

By Finally!!!

April 16, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

Mad Citizen… You need the clue, Morgan and Campbell (obviously from the vote the other night) are not the only ones in the City who wanted Armocida gone. As with any issue there are always two sides. You live in your fantasy world and blame who you want though!

By Mad Citizen

April 16, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

To Finally!!! Seth-is that you? Stop hiding behind your keyboard and confront your accusers. You and your insecure egomaniac buddies think you can command respect because you were elected. Respect has to be earned and cannot be commanded. Ms Armocida earned her respect and you couldn’t stand it. Send me your address and I’ll send you $$$ so you can buy a clue. The arrogance and ignorance shown by this council is unbelievable.

By Finally!!!

April 16, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

Karen Weaver used her position at the Courier to oust a school administrator in 2005, is she using her school board position now to oust some Council Members so that she can run for Council? Her lack of preparation by her having to get people together after the fact shows that Monday was a big show and now she is trying to figure out how to follow through with it. Does anyone know how to recall a school board member? Is there not enough issues with our schools to keep her busy? RECALL WEAVER!

By Scott B

April 16, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

“To “Scott B” who said it was too bad Mark Campbell isn’t his ward - Good News! Mark is an at large representative. That means the whole city can vote him out of office! If he isn’t recalled first that is.”

SWEEEET. I wasn’t aware he was at-large. I’m for a recall. Let’s get all of them out and start fresh.

By smoke @mirriors

April 16, 2008 7:47 AM | Link to this

I think this goes on all the time. People just have too much apathy when it comes to matters like this.

Look at all the trouble in Trotwood..The highest taxes in the county and no business or city services that are not severly cut. officers are leaving at an alarming rate. It was said too have started at “the top”. So yes politics do have a play into this because of hiring practices and new rules on the people they want to hire.

By Finally!!!

April 15, 2008 11:35 PM | Link to this

Let’s tar and feather Morgan and Campbell!!! It’s hilarious to me how when Council does something that isn’t popular with the real good old boys it is these two obviously twisting arms. Judy and Jan standing for something?? These two are puppets of City Staff the way that the rest of Council are supposedly puppets to Campbell and Morgan. As far as Armocida being a classy dame…give me a break, she has a history of being shady and everyone knows it, all the KoolAid drinkers need to wake up.

By Finally!!!

April 15, 2008 11:29 PM | Link to this

Poor Cathy…she put on such a show. Why does she not mention that she was seeking employment in Oakwood recently?? Does that not play into the poor beat down woman routine she is working on those who will listen. She is a career government lackie who is just as political as any member of council. I am sure there is more to the “we don’t need her services anymore” than she or council is letting on. That will come out just like it did with Pierce.

By Ben

April 15, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this

Of all the residents in Huber, isn’t there anyone other than the same idiots? Campbell is still on? He’s a moron, Hensley? Crook! Jan Vargo is a nut bar,Karen Kaleps is worthless, WTF is wrong with you people out there? How can these people still be running the city after more than 20 years? Didn’t the city manager look great on TV with her angry eyes? Get a new look, 1970 wants it’s old one back.

By Supporter

April 15, 2008 10:31 PM | Link to this

As an outside salesperson I deal with most all of the local governments. I had the opportunity to deal with Cathy 3 or 4 years ago when she was director of Finance. It was a one time sale and I haven’t spoken to her since. I remember her because she was one of the good government employees. Professional, smart, fair, and FRIENDLY. You weren’t going to pull any wool over her eyes but she was never nasty or gruff.

By Dayton

April 15, 2008 9:47 PM | Link to this

Alas! VINDICATION for all those that have suffered the wrath of C.Armocida! Check out her own personal record of all the firings she has done and/or been involved with in the last sev. yrs. Is she even kidding about her “one page statement made to reporters?” It is a mere echoing of the sentiments that many have endured directly from her. There is nothing more appropriate than the saying: “what goes around, comes around.” Such a sweet, silent revenge for all who have been wronged by her!

By landd-k

April 15, 2008 9:04 PM | Link to this

We finally get a classy dame as a city manager, respected finally bringing credibility to the ciy, and always turns a head when she enters a room. Along comes a OCD/paranoid schizo body shop guy with a few bucks and and a toothless Barney Fife politician with a campaign manager who knows how to post a blog. These “guys” know how to work over a bumbling group of red faced boozers and a milktoast lawyer. Two feisty old ladies are the only ones with ‘nads who stand up to them. “Trow da bums out!

By HonestAbe

April 15, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this

Valryn Warren I implore you to get to the bottom of this councils’ unethical behavior. Start with Jim Bowers resignation letter part of a public records request she do the trick. Research the check that the police chief had to write to keep his job. The Ohio Ethics commission would have a field day with this council. They have been doing things illegally for so long they truly believe it is right?

By HonestAbe

April 15, 2008 7:40 PM | Link to this

This city council is out of control we have all had a front row seat to see Campbell create the chaos by using his puppets swoop in and save the day like he had nothing to do with it. He always says he does what is best for the city. If he wanted to do what was best for the city he would crawl in hole and die! There is a story here to tell with lots and lots of unethical practices by this council Cathy was let go because she questioned the way this council does business.

By Michael

April 15, 2008 6:32 PM | Link to this

What City council cares about any of us, Joh Q Public is not on the list of priorities of any City council including the one I have to deal with in Beautiful New Carlisle Ohio. They are (city Counsels) little fifedoms when ther is a problem that directly effect them its taken care of but dont expect much if your john q. public, the whole system needs changed

By Sid

April 15, 2008 6:21 PM | Link to this

Thank god I moved away from there. The egos of Hubers Council is pathetic and they are only hurting themselves as what talented, knowledgable and motivated person would want to work there… NONE!

Seems like the employment list continually grows there…which isn’t saying much as the unhappy employees are leaving and soon the residents will follow as their standard of living will drop lower than it already is….thanks to COUNCIL!

By theTruth

April 15, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this

Council, manager, mayor and ect of Huber should all be replaced by pack of flea-bitten hounds currently awaiting a feeble fate at the pound. They could do no worse. Huber is a concrete wasteland of traffic,fast-food restaurants,sprawl and disgusting malaise brought about by decades of short-sighted decisions of compromised managers who frothed liked rabid dogs to the whims of greedy developers. Decisions based disproportionately on tax-revenue generation robbed citizens of quality of life

By annexed in from miami county

April 15, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

THE WHOLE CITY COUNCIL IN HUBER HEIGHTS IS CORUPT…START THE INVESTIGATIONS NOW!!!!!!!!

By Paul

April 15, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

Been gone out of the Dayton area for a long time. When I was there, Huber Heights was mainly known as “Hubriar Heights.” Guess you’ve all become big time “steppin’and a fetchin” big city dwellers. “Hubriar Heights” done found out the game “screw your neighbor” was created by the politicians YOU! elected. Once a Red Neck…always a Red Neck. Pay the taxes and cost yourselves back into the oblivion you live anyway. Dumber than a bag of hammers.

By Angie

April 15, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this

Cathy was a good employee and seemed to move this city forward. I feel her job termination may be due to not being a “yes man” to the council. I hope she does not give up and does what she feels is right.

By t

April 15, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this

I like the interim City Manager. He has never held any public position. He was an HR guy for a private corp in HH. It is also funny how some members of council are in the business world. HMMMMM???? Funny how things work out.

Citizens of HH need to step up and hold their elected officials accountable. If not, your city will continue to be ran by egotistical pricks that were beat up in school. Give them a little bit of power and look at what happens.