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By Ben Sutherly, Staff Writer Updated 10:46 AM Thursday, November 12, 2009

DAYTON — Democracy got ugly Wednesday, Nov. 11, at the Dayton Convention Center as a forum on overhauling health care devolved at times into a shouting match.

Twice during the two-hour event, some among the crowd of 130 barked at state Sen. John Husted:

• Once while Husted, R-Kettering, a panelist, discussed the role that crisis, real or imagined, plays in creating momentum for big pieces of legislation like the health care bill currently in Congress.

• And again when he emphasized the cost of health care and the $12 trillion national debt.

“Some of the behavior here today was very inappropriate,” Dr. Evangeline Andarsio, president-elect of the Montgomery County Medical Society, told the crowd following a question-and-answer session used by some folks posing as questioners as a platform for their impassioned views.

Some speakers, including Montgomery County Commissioner Dan Foley, a Democrat, talked of health care as a right. Others framed it as a matter of personal responsibility.

“If we don’t take care of ourselves ... health care costs will become insurmountable,” Husted said.

The forum was spearheaded by Take It Back, a group that favors free-market policy solutions. Local endocrinologist Dr. David Westbrock of Take It Back opened the forum by referencing the Dayton region’s tradition of self-reliance in responding to problems, citing the creation of the Miami Conservancy District in response to the Great Flood of 1913.

Prior to the meeting, about 40 people gathered at Montgomery County Democratic headquarters, 131 S. Wilkinson St., for a meeting called by Doctors for America, a pro-reform, physician activist group.

Then they rallied outside the Convention Center, challenging opponents of a health care overhaul with signs that read, for example, “Leaving 52 million uninsured is not a plan.”

“We have to challenge them on this premise that the free market can fix what it broke,” Dr. Alonzo Patterson of Dayton told the pro-reform group.

Contact this reporter at (937) 225-7457 
or bsutherly@DaytonDailyNews.com.

Also Retired Srgt REPUBLICANS are why insurance companies cannot sell across state lines. They did not want a large federal government and wanted states to maintain individual rights and pass individual laws regarding health care.

Right now, insurance is regulated at the state level. It needs to be at the federal level.

Republicanism is never the answer (ie think unnecessary $1 trillion war in Iraq).
Matt
7:53 AM, 11/13/2009
2.2% profits but 30% overhead. Medicare only operates 3% overhead.

27% wasted in corporate bureaucracy.

Republicans are ANTI free market. In 2003 they passed a law that Medicare could not negotiate prices. Then you see stories about Medicare paying $4000 for wheelchairs that only cost $500.

The house bill includes health care exchanges. It will allow Medicare to negotiate prices, it will end pre-existing conditions, and cover 96% of our population. It lowers the deficit $104/billion.
Matt
7:48 AM, 11/13/2009
That coupled with portability of insurance plans (across state lines curently prohibited by the commerce act). Allowing a free and open competition among the providers, tort reform, cutting defensive procedures that run into the billions each year, will lower costs so significantly almost all will be able to have SOME sort of health insurance.
RETIRED SGT
7:08 AM, 11/13/2009
AS posted before, the HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES make a 2.2% profit on providing healthcare. Now, thinking outside the box, since healthcare insurance companies only make 2.2%, where is the cost coming from. cErtainly any corporation is entitled to a fair profit, but 2.2% is wel l below the average, so, what is costing so much? Just what the repubs said, defensive evaluations by teh docs against lawsuits by the lawyers. Cut defensive care by TORT reform and you have lowered significantly.
RETIRED SGT
7:04 AM, 11/13/2009
Judi P
You sound just like the people you are complaining about an ignorant know it all. I bet I know what the P in your name stands for!
TKidding
10:46 PM, 11/12/2009
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