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Maybe Reds won’t be a running joke

For those who wonder if the Cincinnati Reds ever work on anything in spring training but their golf strokes, fishing casts and toasty tans, Friday would have been a good day to watch the team work out.

Fans were highly critical last year of the team’s baserunning gaffes - rightfully so - and wondered if the team ever worked on the nuances of baserunning.

There was evidence Friday as Eric Davis and Billy Hatcher conducted a workout that had manager Dusty Baker in awe.

“I’m going to tell the guys at the meeting (Saturday morning) that yesterday was THE finest baserunning conditioning workout I’ve ever seen,” said Baker. “As far as technique, as far as cutting the corners on bases, as far as energy, as far as training - along with some fun and competition as well - that was THE best.

“Eric Davis made sure they cut the corners correctly and Eric and Hatcher discussed technique and energy,” said Baker.

So we can expect better baserunning this year? We shall see, we shall see.

REMEMBER BROOKS Kieschnick? He was an outfielder who threw so well that the Milwaukee Brewers used him in the bullpen. Sometimes they would have him pinch-hit, then go into a game as a relief pitcher.

Micah Owings is just the opposite - a pitcher who can hit, not an outfielder who can pitch. But Baker is considering using him the same way as the Brewers used Kieschnick in 2004, “If Owings doesn’t make the rotation. We could have him pinch-hit, then go into the game and pitch in relief.”

Baker was asked if he has Owings practice hitting more than a regular pitcher, knowing he might be used as a pinch-hitter, and he said, “He goes in and hits on his own. I went to the cage one day and said, ‘Man, who is that kid with that big ol’ helmet on?’ I thought it was Todd Fraizer by his stroke (a good one) by how and it looked and it ended up being Owings.

“Every pitcher likes to hit, enjoys hitting, butOwings likes to hit because he CAN hit,” said Baker. “I told him to make sure he is stretched out before he hits too much. Hitting is different than throwing.”

Kieschnick hit .270 with one homer and seven RBIs in that role with the ‘04 Brewers, but Owings displays a propensity for hitting even better than that, at least for average.

Kieschnick was a power plant. Actually, he was in camp with the Reds one year, as an outfielder only. He didn’t make the team but he was a Batting Practice Wonder, hitting some balls that knocked down clouds and threatened the landing/takeoff patterns of flights in and out of Sarasota-Bradenton International Airport.

Couldn’t do it in games, though.

SPEAKING OF TODD FRAZIER, one of the team’s highest prospects, Baker was asked if he had talked much to him yet this spring.

“Just a little bit,” said Baker. “I see him, but I hear him mostly. I hear his bat. He has a different sound in his bat. He has a different swing, but it is very effective.”

Frazier is one of the many shortstop prospects in camp - Paul Janish, Frazier, Chris Valaika.

“We have decisions to make at the minor league level when you have guys like (first baseman) Yonder Alonzo, (third baseman Juan Francisco), Frazier and others,” said Baker. Because the club is rich in shortstop and third base prospects, some switching may be done.

“Francisco may play third and/or outfield and Frazier may play short, third or outfielder,” said Baker. “And with Valaika at short, you know, where are you going to put all these guys if they play on the same team? They all need at-bats, but they need to be in positions where they might play in the big leagues.”

There is some talk that Frazier might be too big for a shortstop (6-3, 220), but in this day and age, how big is too big?

Baker doesn’t subscribe.

“Every time I looke at him I think of Cal Ripken Jr.s body type,” he said. “He supposedly didn’t have the body type for a shortstop. If he walked into this room and you didn’t know he was a shortstop, there was no way you’d think he was a shortstop.”

And how did that work out?

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By Mr. Redlegs (Original)

February 22, 2009 5:10 PM | Link to this

Way too many people consumed with what to do about Votto when Alonso comes up. Let him actually come up before it’s a topic. To this point, he’s proven nothing. And what’s so cheesy about quoting Indiana Jones on snakes? Maybe you’re not old enough to remember Indiana Jones, the original.

By Scott

February 22, 2009 10:11 AM | Link to this

Ok he played “some” however is he a regular LF?? It’s kind of like how Dunn was placed at 1B. He was regularly a LF. So again why should Votto move? Perhaps Yonder can learn to play LF while in the minors. Isn’t that what the minors are for…learning?

By michael

February 22, 2009 8:59 AM | Link to this

Scott- Votto played some solid LF in 2007. I agree with you about Yonder…but I don’t think he will be in Cincy on opening day.

By Scott

February 22, 2009 8:46 AM | Link to this

I still don’t understand this fascination with Yonder. He hasn’t had more than a season at A Ball has he? Just because he thinks he can hit big league pitching, and “negotiated” for a big league contract (or whatever it was he signed for a large chunck of cash) doesn’t mean he’s ready. Wily Mo Pena was like that (with fan appeal and contract), and look how he turned out. Also how can Votto simply be placed in left without any experience. Has he had any experience in left? Yonder should go through A-AA-AAA (full years each) until he sees Cincy. Look what’s happened with Homer (dragging him up and down over the last couple of years). It takes time for these new players to understand big league hitting and pitching. There are no “overnight” successes.

By Ryan K.-Madison, IN.

February 21, 2009 4:14 PM | Link to this

Mr. Redlegs…your a cheesball man…lol. Seriously.

By jd

February 21, 2009 11:44 AM | Link to this

Frazier should be the future shortstop. Votto should go to left for Alonso; that would really solve the outfield issue. Edwin and Taveras should stick around till their replacements are ready. I don’t think that’s Francisco, though, he’s not very disciplined at the plate, and hitting a bunch of homers doesn’t always mean success. Valaika doesn’t have good defense, and I can’t see him as an everyday bat. This will be a good judgement year on Stubbs, to see if he’s ready for center or not.

By Mr. Redlegs (Original)

February 21, 2009 10:16 AM | Link to this

Tremendous first week of camp, old-timer. Great, great stuff. Loved every word … except for the ones about poisonous snakes. I hate snakes, Jock! Hate ‘em!
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