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UNSOLICITED OBSERVATIONS from The Man Cave while flipping channels to watch both the Reds-Padres and Cardinals-Cubs, with a peek now and then at the NASCAR race from Dover and the NFL games. I need four TVs in the cave.

The Cardinals took an 8-0 lead over the Cubs and watch the lead shrivel to 8-7 by the seventh, forcing Cardinals manager Tony LaRussa to bring in his closer, former Reds relief pitcher Ryan Franklin, into the game in the eighth.

The Cubs put two runners on in the eighth, but Franklin worked out of it, then pitched a 1-2-3 ninth for 26th save in 28 opportunities.

MEANWHILE, the Reds rolled over the Padres, 12-2, and the magic number is ONE - one more Reds win or one more Cardinals loss and the National League Central title lands in Cincinnati.

And there is a sad tale to this. The Cardinals are home to Pittsburgh Monday while the Reds are off and if the Cardinals lose the Reds clinch it - on an off day for the Reds, eliminating any celebration in an empty Great American Ball Park.

Fans probably will root for the Cardinals Monday so the Reds can clinch it Tuesday when they open their final homestand of the season against the Houston Astros.

THE REDS received another plus-plus pitching performance Sunday, this one by Homer Bailey, pitching for his playoff rotation life.

Bailey gave up a pair of solo home runs in the second to Adrian Gonzalez and Yorbit Torrealba - and nothing else. He went seven innings and gave up two runs and five hits, further complicating the team’s decision as to which four starters will be in the first roiund of the playoffs.

After missing three starts with a sinus infection, Joey Votto returned Saturday with a home run, a single, two walks and two RBIs. On Sunday he homered in the first, his 37th, go give the Reds a 1-0 lead.

My most valuable player ballot is filled out. We have to pick 10 players - one through 10, with the votes weighted one-through-10 (10 points for a first-place vote, one pint for a 10th-place vote).

Number one? Votto, who else. Nobody has meant more to his team than this guy, all season long. I have Colorado’s Carlos Gonzalez second and St. Louis’ Albert Pujols third.

I haven’t filled out four through 10 yet, but San Diego’s Adrian Gonzalez will be high on the list.

I also have a Manager of the Year vote and we have to list our three top choices in order. Help me out here.

I’m leaning toward Dusty Baker (call me a homer if you want for the hometown votes, but nobody can argue with me if I put Votto and Baker first.

Besides Baker, I’m considering Atlanta’s Bobby Cox, San Diego’s Buddy Black, Philadelphia’s Charlie Manuel and San Francisco’s Bruce Bochy.

Give me your list - one, two, three.

AFTER VOTTO’s home run in the first and the two home runs by the Padres in the second, the Reds took a 4-2 lead in the on Chris Heisey’s three-run double in the fourth.

It was another of Baker’s fortuitous line-up decisions. With San Diego starting left-hander Clayton Richard, Baker benched the left-handed Jay Bruce, who also has a some pain in the side that sidelined him not long ago. And he replaced Bruce with Heisey - another Manager of the Year decision.

Baker also dropped Brandon Phillips out of the lead-off spot for the San Diego series and on Sunday he batted sixth, so that he came to bat in the sixth with Jonny Gomes on first and popped a two-run home run down the right field line.

Heisey also homered to lead off a six-run eighth, giving him four RBI, and Votto added a two-run single to give him 111 RBI.

IT WAS in San Diego where I heard about one of the best put-down lines ever uttered by a manager to an umpire. Pete Rose was the manager and Eric Gregg, who weighed about 350 pounds at the time, was umpiring third base.

Rose thought Gregg missed a call on a play at third and yelled at him, “If it had been a hamburger on third base you wouldn’t have missed it.”

Speaking of Rose, one afternoon at the team hotel in San Diego I was standing next to a swimming pool, at the deep end, wearing my swimming trunks. Rose came up behind me and nudged me into the pool.

After I scrambled out, I asked him, “How do know if I could swim. What if I couldn’t?” Rose laughed and said, “Who knows? I can’t swim, either.”

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October 20, 2010 8:08 AM | Link to this

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October 20, 2010 2:51 AM | Link to this

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October 14, 2010 7:26 AM | Link to this

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By prototip

October 3, 2010 4:55 PM | Link to this

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By jim t

September 28, 2010 3:03 PM | Link to this

Steve, I, like you, am concerned about the potential match up against teams we have not fared well against. But to qualify for the payoffs you must perform for a 162 game schedule. As far as being a aggressive group running the bases I think it has more to do with the capabilities of your personnell. I just can’t see Dunner or Griffey doing a whole lot of 1st to 3rd. I think it does help to have some vets who have the drive and desire to perform to go along with the pitching and timely hitting (by the way the reds lead the league in 2 out base hits with runners in scoring position)displayed by the reds this year. They have also led the league in fielding percentage. Sounds like a formula for winning if you asked me.Most winniing teams have a blend of knowledgeable vets and youngsters. As I have said previously, certainly the players deserve a good portion of the credit but to ignore the job Dusty and his staff have done considering the results is very self serving and short sighted. This team has played hard from day 1. They have had many chances to fall as many have perdicted. They haven’t and if you know anything about leadership that attitude starts with Dusty and staff.He has navigated this team through the season and given them a chance to play for the title.You may want to consider that a lot of people think Dusty to be a good baseball manager. Good enough to win 1400 games,3 MOY’s,take 3 different teams to the playoffs,was a very sucessful player and has given us the first thing in 9 years to even debate. Now unless you have accomplished some of those same things and walked in his shoes trying to blend talent and personalities over 162 games and been as sucessful as him, Show him some respect at least.

By Bob

September 28, 2010 2:56 PM | Link to this

JimT: How did I know that your name was going to pop up whenever someone on the blog wrote in disagreement with you? What exactly are your credentials to question another bloggers opinion? Who are you,JimT, to say what must be in another bloggers comments? Here’s an old saying for you JimT:”Just because someone is named CEO of the year,Fireman of the year,Rookie of the year, or MOY, or blogger of the Year, doesn’t mean they have not made mistakes along the way.” And, perhaps the judgment of whomever is voting, should be questioned. IMHO, the 2010 Cincinnati Reds ‘results’ are much less about Dusty’s managing and much more about others in the lineup, overcoming people in the lineup and their performances, that should not have been there.Therefore, his incompetency is proven; and his judgment is lacking. But, if it’ll make you feel better, he has a nice kid.

By Steve

September 28, 2010 1:40 PM | Link to this

Hal: I don’t know who should be manager of the year but I think a manager of the year candidate should have a better than .500 record against teams with winning records and and also a better than .500 record in games decided by 1 or 2 runs. If Sparky was correct when he stated that only about 1/3 of the games are won by the manager, than games against sub .500 teams should be not be looked at in considering the managers ability to win ball games with his managing abilities. While it’s been fun to watch these Reds this year, I think more of the credit for the exciting year goes to the veteran players on the roster who learned how to play from outside the Reds organization. Up until this year, I’ve never heard the Reds manager touting he was pushing aggresive base running so I’m assuming it was brought in by one of the new faces to the team.

By Reds Playoffs

September 28, 2010 1:36 PM | Link to this

Mangers of the Year 1 - Scott Rolen 2 - Bobby Cox 3 - Bruce Bochy

By jim t

September 28, 2010 1:01 PM | Link to this

Alex Webster, by not recognizing the good job Dusty has done as well as the players is ridiculous. Here is an old saying for you “There is more than one way to skin a cat.” While his line ups and decisions may conflict with yours his results do speak for themselves. While you think Dusty mismanaged the team, his way HAS WON. What are you credentials? Could you be a product of the Peter Principle? While I’m sure Dusty would be the first to say good players make good managers it certainly wouldn’t imply that he does not know how to manage.The fact that a fans opinion conflicts with a managers decision doesn’t make him wrong. Quite the contrary. He has 1400 wins as a manager. How many do you have? If your idea of how to manage differs from Dusty and you think he doesn’t deserve the MOY award I can certainly understand. But the condesending tone in your post,the arogance and demeaning way you object to his methods while refusing to see any positives in the performance of his duties with the good results staring you right in the face is incrediblly short sighted. Relax a little Alex. We haven’t had a winning season around these parts in a longtime and rather you want to admit to it or not a big part of the fans enjoyment this summer is the product of one DUSTY BAKER. Thats Dusty Baker soon to be 4 time MOY.

By Alex Webster

September 28, 2010 10:42 AM | Link to this

It is well-acknowledged, by many, that in one’s lifetime it is possible to observe that many people reach positions of prominence, but remain just the same, incompetent. If you don’t recognise this fact, you haven’t paid attention. Many of these people have convinced,somehow, other’s with questionable intelligence and competence, that they are someone with admirable abilities, when actually many others are more apt to be much better qualified-as in Obama vs the alcoholic, AWOL, preceding moron. So, then one can see how incompetent dolts, like Baker, can get to where he is, by having the talent around him, as in good players,overcome his lineup deficiencies, which have proven unproductive in many, many crucial situations. Many ‘leaders’ in history were not leaders, but merely incompetent figure heads. I compare them to the student who is embarrassingly passed on in school,because the powers that be, don’t want to confront his deficiencies. It’s just easier to reward Dusty, when it was actually players who helped cover up his incompetence at making out lineups. Yes, much stronger lineups would have increased the Reds margin of victory this season. The Reds did well; and I don’t have to talk to trainers, or anyone else, to see that Dusty did not. Sometimes in life,incompetent people get into positions of authority, by quirks of fate. It has happened throughout history.Dusty is one of them.

By Alex Webster

September 28, 2010 10:02 AM | Link to this

The afore-mentioned intelligence, would also include being smart enough to realise that playing unproductive outfielders, for fricking ever, is not good managing; and, yes indeed,playing anyone else including my dead grandmother, might have afforded better opportunities for an improved record.

By As I Was SAYING

September 28, 2010 9:50 AM | Link to this

Lineup decisions which create poor performances are not fortunate. They are rather, unfortunate, and ill-conceived. All one needs is two eyes and an open mind; which includes playing TALENT which isn’t always OVER-THE-HIll veterans. Give ME a break.

By jim t

September 28, 2010 9:16 AM | Link to this

Lots of good candidates. Black,Cox,Baker. Baker is my choice. This team had hundreds of question marks comming into the season. He has them on the verge of winning the division when many thought 500 would be a good season. Him and Walt have done this without benefit of a huge payroll. They didn’t mortage the farm system. They not only won but they have this team set up to compete for a very longtime.This organization has improved tremendously.Best summer in quite sometime.

By AP-FLORIDA

September 28, 2010 9:06 AM | Link to this

Any and everyone but Rusty. I think adding the new pitching coach was the difference this year, plus Rolen and Cabrera. (Walt)

By Aaron B

September 28, 2010 7:17 AM | Link to this

1) Hal, I dont ever stump for non-Reds personnel but in this case I will make an eception: Jim Tracy for Manager of the Year, hands down in my book. 2) Bruce Bochy: their opening day cleanup hitter was a major bust and yet they still set the pace in the NLW. 3) Charlie Manuel: his team is in perfect striking postion.

By bet365

September 28, 2010 2:48 AM | Link to this

E ‘vero! Ottima idea, sono d’accordo con lei. Condivido pienamente il suo punto di vista. Ottima idea, condivido.

By J Babs

September 28, 2010 1:06 AM | Link to this

Your homework assignment for the day Alex is to grab a dictionary and look up the definitions of fortuitous and fortunate and then try to explain the difference.

By J Babs

September 28, 2010 1:01 AM | Link to this

What is your point Alex? Are you suggesting your line-ups would have resulted in us winning the division by more than 6 games? What makes you be in a better position to make a line-up than Dusty? Do you watch BP everyday? Do you talk to the players and coaches everyday? Do you talk to the trainers everyday? Have you been involved in major league baseball as either a player or coach for nearly 40 years? Have you won over 1,400 games as a manager? Give me a break dude!

By Alex Webster

September 27, 2010 11:13 PM | Link to this

Lineup decisions which create poor performances are not fortunate. They are rather, unfortunate, and ill-conceived.

By J Babs

September 27, 2010 10:16 PM | Link to this

Fortuitous line-up decisions? Fortuitous is defined as occuring by chance.

By Bob

September 27, 2010 4:51 PM | Link to this

Manuel with all the players hurt all year and He kept the Team near the top all year. His Tp players were hurt and out.

By Raoul

September 27, 2010 4:40 PM | Link to this

I think Dusty wins hands down. He got help from Leake early, and Wood late. But the fact is he used his whole team and everyone contributed. I have never seen a Reds team that had as many players contribute meaningful playing time as this year. Votto is certainly the MVP. Every where he played he hit, and drove in runs against lefties and righties. Thank you Reds for a very rewarding year of baseball. Few of us saw this coming.

By DarkeFan

September 27, 2010 3:04 PM | Link to this

Manager would be Dusty, Bobby Cox, Charlie. Votto is the MVP.

By Wizard

September 27, 2010 2:23 PM | Link to this

Because the Reds performed well above predictions{except for my prediction that they would win 88-90 games during the season}, I would give the mgr. of the year to Baker-not because I think he is great, but because his players overcame his decision-making,playing well enough to win it for Dusty-just like they have in other places. I don’t care who is second and third.

By StuttgartTim

September 27, 2010 11:33 AM | Link to this

Manuel, Black, and a tie for third with Baker/Cox.

By Mike-Cinci

September 27, 2010 11:20 AM | Link to this

Nobody predicted the Reds would do anything at the beginning of the season. Nobody says they will do much in the playoffs either. Most say the Reds have a very average roster with average starting pitching and just OK relief pitching. The team played hard all year. Based on taking average talent and having an excellent season I would give Dusty the manager of the year award. Votto is the MVP. Voting for both awards occurs right after the regular season and before the playoffs start. Black and Bochy are very deserving also but they had the benefit of better pitching.

By Jack

September 27, 2010 10:21 AM | Link to this

Hands down it has to be Buddy Black. San Diego was supposed to be the worst team in baseball this year. Dusty second. The Reds were supposed to be improved, but not this much improved. Then Bobby Cox. Hal, what about Troy T with the Rockies. He has carried them this last month and perhaps killed his teammate’s chances as well.

By Gem&Heater

September 27, 2010 9:52 AM | Link to this

Baker, Black, Bochy in no particular order. Baker gives his team a chance to win every day and you can’t argue with that. The others do the same and I would include Manuel except he has the most talent.

By Ebes

September 27, 2010 9:20 AM | Link to this

Baker, Black, Bochy. Dusty has shown us his worth this year. He is a leader of men.

By RRF

September 27, 2010 8:26 AM | Link to this

Bochy, Black, Baker MVP - Votto Cy Young - Halladay

By BAA

September 27, 2010 8:14 AM | Link to this

Definitely Dusty. No one believed the Reds would make the playoffs on opening day. Thanks for another year of clever Reds reporting. Your story line of a game is fun reading.

By BAA

September 27, 2010 8:14 AM | Link to this

Definitely Dusty. No one believed the Reds would make the playoffs on opening day. Thanks for another year of clever Reds reporting. Your story line of a game is fun reading.

By wallyp

September 27, 2010 8:13 AM | Link to this

Don’t know enough about managers to have a list, but I think it is too early to vote Votto as MVP. For me, it depends on whether the Rockies make it into the playoffs. If they do, Cargo’s numbers are better than Votto’s, and he should win. And Sam, if you want to harp on the umps, how about Heisey being called out at the plate. You did not need instant replay to know he was safe, a catcher standing on the plate taking a high throw just cannot reach forward enough to tag a sliding runner before the foot gets to home plate. And also remember, this call came when the game was still close and cost what could have been significant extra runs, while the Stubbs call came with the game pretty much in hand.

By BAA

September 27, 2010 8:02 AM | Link to this

Definitely Dusty. He will need all the votes he can get. No one on opening day considered the Reds for the playoffs. Thanks for another year of outstanding Reds reporting. Your clever delivery of the game is unmatched.

By BAA

September 27, 2010 8:02 AM | Link to this

Definitely Dusty. He will need all the votes he can get. No one on opening day considered the Reds for the playoffs. Thanks for another year of outstanding Reds reporting. Your clever delivery of the game is unmatched.

By ohdave

September 27, 2010 7:41 AM | Link to this

Joe, Dusty knows nothing about baseball? Seriously? Ever see the guy play? I think he knows how to hit. Michael, I am pretty sure the MVP vote occurs prior to the start of the playoffs.

By michael

September 27, 2010 7:25 AM | Link to this

Dusty is not manager of the year. Look how many games Dusty blew by insisting on Cordero. Votto may be MVP if he plays in the playoffs. He has great numbers and some clutch hits this year, but I hope he doesn’t break a nail before the post season.

By sam

September 27, 2010 7:14 AM | Link to this

The Reds got another break from the umpires in this game. In the eight inning Stubbs bunted and was clearly running in fair territory when the throw hit him in the back. The umpires missed it. Stubbs should have been out and the runners return to their bases rather than the run scoring. It seems the Reds get all the calls from the umps.

By joe

September 27, 2010 7:10 AM | Link to this

Hal is a homer. My choices for manager of the year are (in order) Bud Black, Bruce Bochy, Charlie Manuel. Dusty Baker knows nothing about baseball.

By Joe

September 27, 2010 6:41 AM | Link to this

Me and my son are rooting for the Card’s tonight cause we’re going to the game tomorrow night. Would love to be there when they win it.

By LJW

September 27, 2010 3:16 AM | Link to this

Ref. to your quote: “And there is a sad tale to this….if the Cardinals lose on Monday…celebration in an empty Great American Ball Park.” Personally I think it would be ok to see a video of all the guys watching the game in the clubhouse and celebrating tomorrow night. Way more than watching 15,000 strong @ GABP, to clinch it Tuesday night. While the media makes comments about our poor attendance, for such a monumental game.

By Gary Maloy

September 27, 2010 2:14 AM | Link to this

The three B’s - and I ain’t counting Bobby. 1) Baker, 2) either Bochy or Black (better record) 2) either Black or Bochy (lesser record). Neither of these three teams were expected to be where they are. Jim Tracy in Denver is also a distinct possibility. I can’t see giving a sentimental vote to Cox as he’s retiring, regardless - his team was expected to do more than the Reds, Padres, Giants and Rockies. IMHO

By Bruce

September 26, 2010 11:52 PM | Link to this

I’d put Dusty first, even though I question his early- season decisions, especially in not platooning Jay Bruce in right. I also think he should have played Janish more at SS, and 2nd base, when the starters were not hitting.I hope Heisey plays more in right and center, if Stubbs isn’t hitting.

By kenny

September 26, 2010 10:00 PM | Link to this

1-Dusty, 2-Bochy, 3-Black.

By Michael in Singapore

September 26, 2010 9:14 PM | Link to this

Black, Bochy, Cox. It would be nice to see the Reds hit 90. When was the last time that happened? A nine run lead + Cordero = Well done Dusty. (You’re finally getting it).

By Dan H

September 26, 2010 8:44 PM | Link to this

1- Baker 2- Black 3-Bochy

By Bob

September 26, 2010 8:21 PM | Link to this

Definately Dusty #1 followed by Bobby Cox and Bud Black 3rd

By ohdave

September 26, 2010 8:18 PM | Link to this

Bochy, Black, and Baker. I think the three of them are all pretty close. I think Bochy has done more with less. Anyone who doesn’t vote for Votto for MVP is just not looking at the facts. It’s not close really. Maybe Gonzalez is the closest second. But I would probably vote for Roy Halliday as second and for Cy Young. I think Votto should also be the gold glove at first. Phillips and Rolen should also be gold glovers.

By Mark

September 26, 2010 8:17 PM | Link to this

Hal Forget about the celebration at the field. Get it done as soon as possible.

By JKL

September 26, 2010 8:16 PM | Link to this

Number 1 Dusty,number 2 Bobby, number 3 Bud.When you vote ,you have to look at the whole body of work,not the last week.

By Eric

September 26, 2010 8:07 PM | Link to this

I would have Bud Black at 1, Dusty at 2, and Bobby Cox at 3.

By Tony Wayne

September 26, 2010 7:57 PM | Link to this

For manager of the year I would vote Dusty No. 1 regardless of how the season ends and definitely have Bud and Bruce (or Jim Tracy) No. 2 and 3 depending on how the west shakes out. Bobby Cox lost my vote this week with all those losses to Philly and the Nats.

By Bill

September 26, 2010 7:55 PM | Link to this

Cordero looked great today. Dusty finally used him where is most effective, a 10 run lead.

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