By Hot Carl

February 23, 2009 2:48 PM | Link to this

How can X lose three straight games and still be ranked? Then UD loses to a tough St Louis squad and falls to 30th in the AP and 29th in the coaches poll. How can Utah with a record of 19-7 take over the 26th spot? UD gets ZERO respect.

By Vegasalum

February 23, 2009 3:14 PM | Link to this

It says a lot about our team that they didn’t fall all that much in both polls. To be a real contender we need a legitimate center and scoring guards. Benson will be an nice upgrade for next year.

By michael thomas

February 23, 2009 3:14 PM | Link to this

First of all “tough” St louis is only 17-10. UD plays a high school schedule. UD does NOT deserve respect until they play the type of schedule they use ti play decades ago!

By Evan

February 23, 2009 3:16 PM | Link to this

St. Louis also lost to Detroit, the last place team in the Horizon. BUt UD is legit and will be playing in the big dance as long as they play like they can.

By Tailwind Turner

February 23, 2009 3:35 PM | Link to this

Hot Carl- XU was ranked 9th, when they started to skid, losing 3 out of 5. Not 3 in a row. That’s why they- unlike UD- are still ranked.

By preacher,franklin ohio

February 23, 2009 3:56 PM | Link to this

who cares put faith and trust in god not u-d geter done for jesus god bless love in chirst preacher.

By UD Sucks

February 23, 2009 3:58 PM | Link to this

UD never deserved to be ranked in the first place. Win a road game once in awhile then you can cry about not being ranked.

By Pat

February 23, 2009 4:05 PM | Link to this

UD needs to win the games they should win. If they don’t show up to any of the last 3 and get blown out of any, they may not make the NCAA Tourney.

By Reggie98ud

February 23, 2009 4:44 PM | Link to this

No one seems to notice that not only was UD without its starting point guard (which to me is debatable if it is that big of a loss with two better PG’s on the bench) and without their second leading scorer in Johnson. That’s a lot to overcome in a hostile environment against a decent team. Should UD have won? Yes. But is the loss as bad as some (or the 7 losses by Washington and UCLA, 8 by Texas, or the 6 losses by Purdue, Illinois, and Florida State. The Top 25 is a joke as long as you have the “BCS” conferences running things.

By michael thomas

February 23, 2009 4:52 PM | Link to this

Basketball does NOT have a BCS! Are Dayton sports people this stupid!

By michael thomas

February 23, 2009 4:53 PM | Link to this

Basketball does NOT have a BCS! Are Dayton sports people this stupid!

By flipper

February 23, 2009 5:03 PM | Link to this

It’s not all wins and losses. Strength of schedule, ya’ll.

By AK

February 23, 2009 5:37 PM | Link to this

Basketball does not technically have a BCS, but being in a BCS conference carries a lot of weight. Reggie, who are the two PGs on the bench better than Lowery? Do you mean London and Thomas? The only problem with Thomas is that he cannot play defense. Maybe we coudl play that 3-2 zone when Thomas is in the game.

By lc

February 23, 2009 5:42 PM | Link to this

I’ll have what the preacher in Franklin’s havin’! Anyone else with me? I think I’m ready to go get saved now! that’s just what I needed.

By Cool Larry

February 23, 2009 5:44 PM | Link to this

Hot Carl should check out the record. Xavier has not lost three straight in years and certainly not this year. As far as respect is concerned Xavier and Temple are the only teams in the A-10 scheduling good teams in the pre-conference. UD needs to schedule better and play teams away from Dayton to build a resume. Until that happens XU will be the only team in the A-10 that could compete in a power conference. Face it, Carl, Dayton blew it again.

By Roger

February 23, 2009 6:13 PM | Link to this

If Chris Wright transfers to a BCS school, which one do you think he will go to? My money is on UK.

By Mongoose

February 23, 2009 6:34 PM | Link to this

I hope CJ is ok for the RI game. I think we’ll need him to have a chance and pull out a win….GO FLYERS!!

By Jer

February 23, 2009 6:44 PM | Link to this

Roger and the losers. Why would CW transfer to any school and sit out a year. No way, he would lose a potential years salary for playing pro ball somewhere. Right now he has the body but needs to refine his shooting before going to the pros. BTW this has been asked and answered right here in the DDN.

By john

February 23, 2009 6:50 PM | Link to this

Dear Michael Thomas, There are 6 so called BCS conferences in Mens’s college basketball. Not all Dayton people are “stupid” my friend. You are just uninformed, and I can only assume you are not a big BB fan. Go post on Xavier’s message board, as I’m sure that is where ur from.

By Raider Ryan

February 23, 2009 7:50 PM | Link to this

Just want to let you know that WSU Raider Nation is pulling for the Flyers to do good in the tourney this year. I’m sure that some of the good hearted Flyer faithful pull for the Raiders as well.

By Jim

February 23, 2009 7:55 PM | Link to this

I truly believe this years Dayton team plays like a top 25 team when they play against teams(top 25 teams)they are not supposed to beat. They lose focus when they play a team they should beat, especially on the road. Dayton fans keep their adrenaline pumped at home and won’t let them lose focus. Dayton would have a terrible record if they play all of their lower level competition on the road. How do you miss so many bunny layups and foul shots? They fans in St. Louis, Charlotte and Creighton were especially high energy and all the UD players minds turn to mush. I feel BG needs to make them aware of this fact. They need to turn off the crowd and play within themselves against road teams.

By Borges

February 23, 2009 8:01 PM | Link to this

Am I surprised that U.D. is out of the top 25? Not at all! We need better shooters and a better coach. A better schedule in a better conference would help. How would Dayton fare in the Big East with such mediocre talent? “4 pts./a game” Huelsman, “no shot” Warren. I don’t think they’d make it passed St. John’s or Seton Hall. The 23-2 record is a bit deceiving.

By Mad Dog

February 23, 2009 9:09 PM | Link to this

Quit bashing the players . This is not a bad team . Kurt has a roll . BG did not ask U for your help.I remember people bashing Purnell from the stands. Standing up so Oliver could see or hear them . They were fools , that would kiss his As…s to come back!There are not five guys on this blog together . Who could beat Sinclair ? Live your life . Enjoy the game. U R not in it ! Go Raiders..

By @ Raider Ryan

February 23, 2009 9:14 PM | Link to this

Contrary to popular belief we root for you just as you root for us.

By The Duke

February 23, 2009 9:55 PM | Link to this

Yes the Flyers lost, but did anybody else feel that the charging and blocking fouls called were a little lopsided

By UD - God's Gift to Basketball

February 23, 2009 10:16 PM | Link to this

The Flyers always get screwed with foul calls. I mean, heck, if the fouls are 14 against Dayton and 20 against their opponent then UD is getting screwed. Have you ever been to a home UD game? Fans BOOOO all the time over bad calls. How can 12k people be wrong? Flyer fans are smart fans. Passionate. UD gets screwed on foul calls. The other team ALWAYS TRAVELS, DOUBLE DRIBBLES and FOULS UD each and every time up and down the court. The REFS screw UD. SCREW ‘Em I SAY. It is unreal. UD Get screwed. Screwed. We Are UD. We are great. Great I say. Great. NIT Champs, we are Great. We went to the NIT when it was a bigger tournament than all tournament combined. Big I say. BIG. REAL BIG. BIG AS MY HEAD. Huge. Huge I say. Huge. Real Huge. Unreal Frickin’ Huge… and Big too. Real Big and Huge. Huge and Big. We are UD. The Ref’s screw us. Screw us I say. For Real. How can 12k people be wrong? Tell me how. BIG and HUGE NIT Winners!!! Big I say. Huge I SAY!!! Ref’s!!!!!!! Call the Foul already!!! Foul I say! FOUL on Xavier!!!! We are UD. We never Foul!!! Never I Say !!!! NEVER!!!

By Tim65

February 23, 2009 10:19 PM | Link to this

To “UD Sucks,” including the Chicago Invitational where UD beat Auburn and Marquette, the Flyers are 7 and 4 on the road. That may not impress too many, but it is a winning record.

By UD Sucks

February 23, 2009 10:28 PM | Link to this

Tim65, the Chicago Invite is not a road game, that is a neutral site game. Name the last quality team UD beat on that teams home court? Exactly

By ryan

February 23, 2009 11:39 PM | Link to this

how about duquesne? Who beat Xavier’s a*s at home.

By UD Rules

February 23, 2009 11:41 PM | Link to this

Duquesne… who beat X

By Tom

February 24, 2009 7:24 AM | Link to this

Dayton Must win on the road…..as ranked teams do it time and time again.The Flyers win at home but until they win on the road consistantly you will see them pulled from the top 25.

By OSU Joe

February 24, 2009 7:36 AM | Link to this

Roger, CW will probably walk on at OSU and get a schollie his senior year. After a couple of years at OSU, he will be prepared for the NBA.

By pete

February 24, 2009 7:45 AM | Link to this

Our OT win over Auburn is not going to impress the NCAA tournament selection committee. Auburn will be lucky to make the CBI tourney.

By Martin

February 24, 2009 8:19 AM | Link to this

You are right, the Auburn game might actually hurt our chances.

By Reggie98ud

February 24, 2009 8:40 AM | Link to this

“Basketball does NOT have a BCS! Are Dayton sports people this stupid!” Hey michael thomas, you are the stupid one who can’t get a simple blog to work correctly and repost stuff. I know there is no BCS in BB, that is why it is in QUOTES, it is a reference to the 6 conferences that constitute the BCS in Football. Everyone else knows what I am talking about and they even describe the confrences that way on the majority of sports channels. Crawl back to your hole in Cincinnati you ignorant X fan!

By Michael

February 24, 2009 8:46 AM | Link to this

I told you so! Last week when everyone was SO PUMPED up about UD, I called it. I said they would go into St Louis and lose. They will also lose to Xavier at Xavier. Then they won’t get past the second round of the A-10 Tournament. They will fail to make the NCAA tournament. WHY? Because they aren’t that freaking good. Like I said before, Dayton will get overlooked because there are at least 10 teams in the Big East and 10 teams in the ACC (Maybe even 7 or 8 teams in the big ten) that are much better than UD. People in Dayton, need to wake up.

By Bitter OSU fans

February 24, 2009 8:50 AM | Link to this

I love when the OSU basketball fans comment here. They are just bitter because they play in a conference that is 0-3 against the A10 this year and are on the bubble.

By OSU: 1 NON Conf Road game per season

February 24, 2009 8:58 AM | Link to this

1 Solid road win against a 14-10 Miami(fl) team. Get lost Buckeys fans. 1-0 on the road in the non conference schedule.

By Go Penn State

February 24, 2009 9:01 AM | Link to this

Good luck buckeyes against a team that was 0-2 against the A10.

By Tim65

February 24, 2009 12:36 PM | Link to this

Neutral site = Semantics. If you’re not home you’re on the road.

By Hot Carl

February 24, 2009 1:01 PM | Link to this

Also, Marquette’s home is Milwaukee. Playing in Chicago, 60 miles south, was a defacto home game for them and UD took care of business. There was nothing “neutral” about that court. To me, that was a definite road win.

By UD Sucks

February 24, 2009 1:24 PM | Link to this

It doesn’t matter what you consider a road game, its only a true road game if you are on a teams home court. Marquette was a NEUTRAL SITE game! When its mentioned they beat Duquense on the road I laugh, UD has not won a legit road game in a long time.

By Hot Carl

February 24, 2009 2:40 PM | Link to this

Let’s look at Villanova as an example. Their home court is The Pavillion which seats 6000+. They also play at the Wachovia Center, 25 miles from campus which seats 20,000+. Is this a neutral cite? I don’t think so.

By UD Sucks

February 24, 2009 2:44 PM | Link to this

If they play multiple home games at the same arena then not its not a neutral site. St Johns does the same thing playing in MSG a lot. However Marquette playing 60 miles away in Chicago isn’t close to the same thing is it?

By Hot Carl

February 24, 2009 3:02 PM | Link to this

I see your point. However, I’m sure those stands in Chicago was loaded with Marquette faithful. When you play that close to home and have a following like they do, the home court feel is definitely there. That’s the point I’m trying to make. I don’t want to argue semantics.

By UD Sucks

February 24, 2009 4:02 PM | Link to this

Thats fine, the point I am trying to make is that UD has not won a road game against a good opponent in a very long time, and good teams win on the road.

By Hot Carl

February 24, 2009 4:43 PM | Link to this

Yes, good teams find a way to win on the road.It is definitely tough to win on the road no matter what conference you are in. I am a huge proponent of a tough OOC schedule and you can’t get any better if you don’t play tough competition. That’s probably why they aren’t currently ranked in the top 25.If you don’t schedule anyone OOC other than the little sisters of the poor who are in wheelchairs you just won’t get any better or any respect.

By Mike

February 24, 2009 4:49 PM | Link to this

Obviously it is hard to argue that UD has struggled on the road, but as far as a long time….They did win at Louisville last year.

By Reggie98ud

February 24, 2009 5:07 PM | Link to this

I think that the road struggles (which I have noticed usually come with terrible foul shooting) are 100% BG’s fault. It is the coach’s job to get his team ready for the difficult conditions that a team faces on the road. It is also the coach’s job to get that foul shooting to improve. My high school coach played for Dean Smith at UNC (with Jordan) and when my high school team hit a dry spell at the line, we spent an hour after every practice shooting free throws. 1-1 situation with a lot of running involved for misses. It was amazing how our FT % improved over the next few games (it didn’t matter for me, I rode the pines!!). My point is BG is not the coach everyone thinks he is. He is like John Cooper, a great recruiter but a mediocre game coach.

By Ryan

February 24, 2009 11:01 PM | Link to this

Decades ago UD was very good, then they sucked, now there back on track to be very good again…Top 25 teams will play UD when they believe a loss to UD won’t be looked at as a negative or ‘bad’ loss. Once UD wins a game or two in back to back NCAA tournys there schedule will become better. 2009-2010 will get better and by 2011 they may have 3-4 non conf top 25 teams on the schedule

By Ryan

February 24, 2009 11:07 PM | Link to this

Louisville last year was not a quality beat-down on the road? Short term memory guys..