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Voters oppose same-sex marriage
Same-sex marriage again is in the news during a presidential election and a new national poll shows that American voters oppose it, 55-36 percent.
However, the Quinnipiac University poll, released Thursday, July 17, also finds that voters don’t want government to get involved in banning the practice.
By a 56-38 percent margin, voters oppose amending the U.S. Constitution to ban same-sex marriage. More narrowly, voters across the nation by a 49-45 percent margin oppose their states banning same sex marriage.
There’s a huge partisan divide on the issue.
In the poll, Democrats support same-sex marriage, 47-43 percent while Republicans are against it, 80-14 percent and independents oppose it 49-43 percent.
Same-sex was a big issue in Ohio in the 2004 election when a proposed constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage was approved. A strong turnout among voters backing the amendment was credited with helping Republican President Bush defeat Democrat John Kerry in Ohio.
This year efforts are underway to put a ballot initiative banning same-sex marriage on the ballot in California after a court ruling gave the OK for gay couples to marry.
The poll also tests voter opinions on other issues such as abortion, gun control and the death penalty.
The poll was conducted July 8 to Sunday, July 13, and has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.3 percentage points.
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By val
November 3, 2009 11:25 PM | Link to this
So here’s what i have to say about Homosexual Marriage… Love is Love. You cant help who you fall in love with and it shouldn’t matter as long as your faithful (which straight people seem to be having a problem with) and as long as you don’t take it for granite( which straight couples are clearly having a problem with.) Not that i think Homosexuality is any better then what straight people have. All im saying is this.. Why not let us be happy. Whats so wrong about two girls being together sharing a life with each other? And dont even bring religion into this factor because we all know thats not whats keeping us from getting equal rights. If it was then hey lets banned divorce because thats against what god belives. or hey he frowns upon having sex before you were marriage. Come on now. Just everyone get that stick out of your asses and do whats right. we live in america! LAND OF EQUALITY so lets try practicing that.
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January 6, 2009 9:10 AM | Link to this
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January 6, 2009 9:08 AM | Link to this
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By Rob
October 14, 2008 1:23 AM | Link to this
Go gay people go! Right on ‘outa here! “gay” used to be a wonderful word. People thought it was very nice for someone to say “you’re so gay!” Now you get the crap knocked outta ya! Heterosexuals shouldn’t have to be embarrased by saying ” I’m married”. I do as I expect other to treat me. I don’t flaunt my feelings or beliefs in everyone elses face. I teach my kids to be tolerant of everyone. I can hear it now! Hey, he’s a jerk! The point is, most “gay” people wouldn’t want to be around me and I’m sure a lot of straight wouldn’t either. Not everybody likes everyone else. People shouldn’t be forced to pretend they like or agree with someone or somebody they don’t! You should be able to visit your partner, leave inheritance and whatever else. Just use your own word. It is different and there fore should have a different word. If you want people to continue hating you, just keep having the parades you do. They are repulsive, it makes me want to vomit. You likely would feel the same at a straight parade. Quit flaunting it and acting so distgusting. Straight people maintain so much better. The only exception is Mardi Gras, they have both. That’s just one of the reasons I’ll never visit.
By Rob
October 14, 2008 1:20 AM | Link to this
Go gay people go! Right on ‘outa here! “gay” used to be a wonderful word. People thought it was very nice for someone to say “you’re so gay!” Now you get the crap knocked outta ya! Heterosexuals shouldn’t have to be embarrased by saying ” I’m married”. I do as I expect other to treat me. I don’t flaunt my feelings or beliefs in everyone elses face. I teach my kids to be tolerant of everyone. I can hear it now! Hey, he’s a jerk! The point is, most “gay” people wouldn’t want to be around me and I’m sure a lot of straight wouldn’t either. Not everybody likes everyone else as it should be. People shouldn’t be forced to pretend they like or agree with someone or somebody they don’t like! You should be able to visit your partner, leave inheritance and whatever else “you” own. Just use your own word. It would change the definition and therefore should have a different word. There are lots and lots of letters, make up any word your heart desires. If you want people to continue hating you, just keep having the parades you do. They are repulsive, it makes me nausious. You likely would feel the same at a straight parade. Quit flaunting it and acting so distgusting. Straight people maintain so much better. The only exception is Mardi Gras, they have both. That’s just one of the reasons I’ll never visit.
By John Bisceglia
July 22, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
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July 22, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this
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By mwm
July 18, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this
It would be best to ask Rev. Ted Haggard, Senator Larry Craig, Representative Mark Foley, former RNC chief Ken Mehlman, and other gay “conservatives” about gay marriage.
By me
July 17, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this
i love shopping and going to clubs with gay people, they are so much fun. let them have gay marriage. us straight people mess up marriage enough by getting divorced and cheating on our spouses, so what’s the big deal y’all
By Nonya Bizness
July 17, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this
RoadRager: You obviously are “raising 10 kinds of stink” over gay marriage and it seems it stems from your moral and religious faith, yes? Well, than you should realize that banning gay marriage for these reasons would be “respecting an establishment of religion.” Now, please read the first amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
By Nonya
July 17, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this
RoadRager: You obviously are “raising 10 kinds of stink” over gay marriage and it seems it stems from your moral and religious faith, yes? Well, than you should realize that banning gay marriage for these reasons would be “respecting an establishment of religion.” Now, please read the first amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
By Paris
July 17, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this
go gay marriage…gay people rule!!!!
By RoadRager
July 17, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this
hey again, i was just kidding about all that stuff. i am really gay, and i support gay marriage fully! i am sorry for all the rude things i said! have a nice day everybody
By RoadRager
July 17, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this
Barry - You said it… “Old School” Values are the only thing this country CAN freely condemn without some liberal raising 10 kinds of stink over it. “The poor qu33rs”, “The Poor Minorities”, “The Poor Hippie Liberal’s Feelings” lmc - Yes He forgives… He also CLEARLY STATES “Go, And Sin No More”… Whatever - WWJD? Follow the word of His Father… (Refer to my previous post referencing Sodom and Gamorrah) GD Ritzy’s – Sound’s like someone is counting down the days until they can come out of the closet. A side bar from the religious undertones… You want to talk about rights?! My God given right as an American to be intolerant of whom ever I wish.
By Stephen
July 17, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this
Who cares: I agree. If one doesnt feel they can perform gay marriges due to their beleifs, then they shouldnt have to. they can simply say, next clerk please. But it doesnt mean that gay marriage should not be allowed. There is a way to compromise for both. That is what america is all about.
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July 17, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this
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By Who Cares?
July 17, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this
Alice: In California many Christians who worked in the Court lost their jobs for citing religious beliefs barring them from performing gay marriages. If they were unwilling to comply with thier new job description of performing a gay marriage, they were booted out. Now there are threats of religious discrimination suits. Source:WorldNetDaily
By GD Ritzy's
July 17, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this
In 1948, Americans opposed gay relationships (much less marriage) by well over 90%. In 1978, Americans opposed gay relationships and marriage by over 70% In 2008, Americans oppose gay marriage at just around 50%. Using this logic, in another 30 years, the majority of Americans will have support gay marriage. Sometimes, it just takes time…
By ummm...
July 17, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this
Nonya Biziness - you make me laugh….HARD!!!
By stephen
July 17, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this
it might take a long time…but equality usually prevails in America, though it is usually a hard uphill battle! so it will be for gay people! it might take decades in certain parts of the country, but equality will prevail.
By Alice
July 17, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this
Who Cares: I totally agree with you regarding individual freedoms but the problem with your argument is that there are different types of Christians that believe different things. You may have one definition of Christian while someone else holds another. Whose definition of Christian are we going to adhere to? And does that mean that non-Christians aren’t allowed to get married? No one is trying to force Christians that don’t believe in gay marriage to marry a gay person. If one denomination of Christians chooses not to allow gay marriages in their denomination, then so be it but “untraditional Christians” and non-Christians (which includes a whole spectrum of religions and non-religions) should be allowed to marry in whatever religious setting that does accept them.
By pie
July 17, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this
save a piece of pie for me, Garfield! does anyone remember what that phrase is from? hahahaha it’s from Garfield Family Christmas. let’s drink eggnog and party the night away at gay clubs lol
By fedup
July 17, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
Some people are upset due to the term marriage. Yes, it was a Christian religious term at one time, But, like other words it has become a generic term. Also, in legal terms everyone that is leagally “married” has a civil union. But, everyone should have the right to be married with all of the benefits and disadvantages that come with it.
By Nonya Buziness
July 17, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
How about this… Only people that can correctly answer three basic civic questions will be allowed to vote. Something like this: a) How many Senators are in Congress? b) Find Washington D.C. on a map (without names on it) c) What is the Electoral College? If we eliminate the 70% or 80% of Americans unable to answer these three simple questions then we’ll be left with a more liberal voting body and thus gay marriage will exist. Yes, I’m calling the majority of conservatives stupid. Not all, but there are plenty of statistics that show the more education you have, the more liberal your politics will be. Not that liberals have cornered the market on smarts but if we would all get a decent education then we wouldn’t have Senators claiming you can get AIDS from tears or debating the need to call French fries “Freedom Fries” or trying to ban homosexuals from getting married. We might concern ourselves with a war that has killed more Americans than died on 9/11. Or how to wean ourselves of foreign oil. Or we might just focus on and fix the fact that we, as a nation, are collectively dumber than most every other industrialized nation.
By alice
July 17, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this
Frank, who said anything about Medical science and/or adoption? I do have married friends who CHOSE not to have children. You said marriage was “created to promote and secure the family and procreation”, and I argue that point. You don’t even know what you’re talking about. No one advocating marriage rights for gays are advocating changing the constitution to include “gays and lesbians”. The opposite is true. The constitution does not mention marriage, nor does it place conditions on who can marry. The constitution DOES guarantee ALL rights are granted equally to all citizens. Right or wrong, moral or immoral, gays are US citizens and they get the same rights as straight people, period. It is those who oppose the rights of marriage to gays and lesbians who want to change the constitution.
By whatever
July 17, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this
WWJD? wasn’t he a big believer of tolerance among men? He’d probably be pushing for them to get married. happiness is happiness, besides, don’t other animals in GODs kingdom engage in homosexuality? Monkeys, dolphins, among the “smarter” animals? just my humble opinion. besides, religion shouldn’t even come into it, all they want are equal rights and legal benefits, leave it at that and see where the debate goes.
By mad person
July 17, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
um, EXCUSE ME, but all i have to say is this: you betta scoop that poop!
By lmc
July 17, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this
Doesn’t your Bible say God forgives anyone who asks? p.s. I’m not a man, nor am I gay. I’m just a fan of tolerant, good people. Christian or not.
By s. vienna
July 17, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this
I hope they do allow gay marriages. I believe everyone has a right to be happy. I hope that with an African American president that we can change alot of things. Right or wrong it is a choice to be made individually.
By barry
July 17, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this
it is true the only people you are allowed to hate with impunity today are the ones who go to church/temple/synagogue/some kind of religous service on a regular basis and the ones who do not embrace the “sinful” pro-homosexual, pro-abortion, old school values. if you do not embrace 21st century democraticic anything goes you are some kind of riligionmonster and should be run out of town
By someone
July 17, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
this is fun, isn’t it? posting comments and getting mad HAHAHAHA
By RoadRager
July 17, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
Oh… BTW… God will forgive ME for beating down a Heathen… Dont know how he’s gonna feel about you takin’ one in the Kiester… Oh… Yes I do… 3 words… Sodom and Gamorrah :)
By RoadRager
July 17, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
:) lmc - Have a nice flight… Dont forget to write… Oh… Have fun in Hell…
By barry
July 17, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this
is it just me or is the comment posting tool acting odder the usual today?
By Who Cares?
July 17, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
I dont care if gays want to get married. Let them. However, when the government gets involved I begin to care. Its not about hate. It is about infringement of rights of individuals. Each individual has the right to decide the path in life best suited to them. When the government makes that decision for any of us, we all lose. If a person’s religious or personal beliefs bars gay marriages, by all means, that individual should not be forced by the government to perform, attend or condone such a union. Pushing the gay agenda has become top priority of the multiculturalists. Trampling upon the right of Christians who hold certin religious beliefs regarding homosexuals is no better than trampling on those who do not hold the same religious beliefs. Is a truly multi-cultural society possible? Not! Unity should be promoted, not this warped separate but equal philosophy. ‘Gay rights’ divide. Individual rights are Constitutional.
By lmc
July 17, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this
RoadRager- you know, you’re exactly the opposite of tolerance. You may not care if “Adam and Steve” have sex all they want, but you still have no tolerance. You say you’d beat up a teacher for telling your child to be tolerant?! Well I hope your GOD puts fear of Him back in you because you are not a good Christian man. Resorting to threats of violence and hatred are certainly not Christian morals. And you know, maybe I’ll take my tolerance and go to Europe. Because they must be doing something right. Their economy isn’t failing, they’re conserving their energy and investigating other fuel sources, and their Euro is is worth %50 percent more than our dollar. Honestly, it doesn’t seem like such and awful place. It seems that while Europe has progressed, the United States has regressed to a time of hatred and religious persecution. It’s like a modern day version of the crusades. Blood has already been spilled. The blood of Lawrence King. Killed because he was gay. The blood of Matthew Shepard. Beaten and killed because he was gay. The blood of these young men, and that of countless others, has been spilled thanks to intolerance such as your own.
By Yes
July 17, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
Many ancient cultures had watchmen whose job it was to protect thier city by seeing the enemy afar off from the vantage point of the high city walls.If we don’t allow the constitiutional ban on gay marriage to happen this issue will emerge far more powerful than it is now.
By barry
July 17, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
I did not say anything about religion. my deeply held pastafarian beleifs preclude me from trying to make a religous comment about same sex marriage. I was only pointing out that if we are going to open marriage up to freaks we should include all the freaks. your goat wants love (and social security benifits) just as much as any other perv. I was also pointing out that marriage is one man and one woman, anything else is like vegitarian bacon is to real bacon (not as yummy good).
By Barry
July 17, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
actually I did not mention anything about religion, my deeply held pastafarian beliefs would preclude that. that being said same sex marriage is alot like vegitarian bacon. I was not comparing homosexual unions to bestiality, just mentioning that if we are going to open marriage up to freaks we should include all the freaks. your goat wants some of that love also, and social security benefits
By Ted
July 17, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this
Wow, I’ve never been privy to such a debate among informed and uninformed people. If this same sad argument wasn’t happening across the country it might almost be laughable.
By someone
July 17, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
i was just being funny to lighten up the mood…but seriously, everyone just needs to mind their own damn business and stop hating on other people!
By lmc
July 17, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
someone- while you may believe that some of the people posting here are “racists, homophobes” and that “all of you can go to hell!” It honestly makes you no better than them. You think they’re going to hell, they think you’re going to hell, so really you can just keep arguing once everyone gets there. This is where an impasse is created and tolerance comes in. I, like you, disagree with homophobic and racial slurs and the opinions that some people express. However, they disagree with us. This is where each person has to decide to be tolerant of another’s beliefs. No peaceful co-existence can be achieved if all anyone does is focus on their differences. Tolerance of another’s views, no matter how much your own moral code disagrees, is essential in a country made up of all different kinds of people. How can we expect them to be tolerant of gay marriage if we can’t be tolerant their religion? Tolerance doesn’t mean agreement or acceptance, it’s simply a two way street.
By HypocrisyAbides
July 17, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this
Silliness all of you. Barry, your implication likening homosexuality to beastiality is not only idiotic, it’s downright laughable. A marriage, in the classical sense of the word implies union between two individuals or entities. ex. “The union of sound and vision.” Religion doesn’t even enter into it. In the “Christian” sense of the word, it implies an intimate relationship between two individuals who love eachother. This is most TYPICALLY a man and a woman. But since we’re not ALL Christian and even if we are, we certainly don’t agree on EVERYTHING, considering there is no one, all-inclusive, North American denomination, this particular notion need not apply. And Frank…protection of family? PULLLLEASE…By your hypocritical reasoning, male and female couples who can’t reproduce shouldn’t be allowed to be married either. Neither should post menopausal women, or men with a low sperm count. If you want to be a bigot, at least man up and admit it, instead of hiding behind some sort of completely illogical reasoning that wasn’t very thought out to begin with. And yet again, you people who keep insisting the constitution was all about “Christian Morality” are totally wrong. Benjamin Franklin the primary AUTHOR of that particular document himself expressed great concern with “religious morality” ruling over logical reasoning. HE HATED BIGOTRY.
By lmc
July 17, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this
The fact of the matter is that this shouldn’t even be an issue. Regardless of if a person thinks that gay marriage is wrong, immoral, or goes against their religious beliefs, that doesn’t mean it should be a law. This county, while found BY christians, was not founded solely FOR christians. This is a country founded to escape religious persecution, not to create it. The freedom to dictate our own lifestyle is one of the fundamental freedoms of this country. When someone starts telling another person what to believe, worship, or found their morals on, we lose that freedom. Somewhere in the mix of things, many christians forget that Jesus would have been the person fighting for peace and acceptance of fellow men. Many Americans could do with consulting a dictionary. It’s called tolerance. Being tolerant of someone else’s life doesn’t mean you have to accept their beliefs or actions. The fact that you believe them to be immoral should not dictate their happiness.
By ADmobius
July 17, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this
Frank - marriage was already screwed up. Gays and lesbians had absolutely nothing to do with that!
By someone
July 17, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this
racists, homophobes, all of you can go to hell! let the people be free and do what they please. it’s all because of religion that this world is messed up. that’s why no one can get along. you all should be ashamed of yourselves, you stupid fat lazy americans! haha you are dumb, and i hope you choke on a donut you fat slobs!
By Barry
July 17, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this
What happens if “Voters” decide they don’t like a particular newspaper or TV station? ummm they stop watching it? I oppose using the term “marriage” for the union of two men, two women, or a person of either gender and a goat. call it something else and if you want/must give them the same legal rights as a marriage. marriage is one man and one woman, something else is something else. kind of like vegitarian bacon isn’t really bacon
By Ted
July 17, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
I personally do not think gay marriage is appropriate. However, that being said, I also do not think it should be my, nor anyone else’s, place to tell someone of the alternative lifestyle that their “pursuit of happiness” should be, or in this case actually is, illegal. It comes down to this: just because one doesn’t agree with something doesn’t mean other’s shouldn’t be able to do it. If you don’t support gay marriage, don’t marry someone of the same gender. Our laws were written to create equality for everyone not to instill our beliefs upon others.
By Julie
July 17, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this
I never saw this poll and I don’t have a problem with gay marriages.
By sickofit
July 17, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this
Can’t wait to see in 30-40 years just how screwed up children from gay marriages are. Get the constitution changed and I guarantee in a few more decades, people will want to be legally married to their animals!
By Frank
July 17, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this
Ok Alice - let me try and break this into simple terms so your liberal mind can comprehend. Marriage is a defined entity - both religiously and legally. If all you are after is the same Legal rights - create the legal term. You do not have to screw up marriage. Or - is that the liberal intent - destroy marriage and family - the village (idiot) approach. And your childless friends are well within the current religious and legal definition of marriage. Medical science and/or adoption does not violate any part of the definition. Also - the Constitution WAS created with a religious - biblical foundation. A brief review of founding documents would make that obvious to any half-wit.
By NOSAMESEXMARRIAGE!
July 17, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this
Excellent post Freedomlover! You best summed it up in the fewest of words. Look at the polls! I for one am completely against it for moral issues and no other! I am one bonified bigot when it comes to this issue and abortion!
By Leslie
July 17, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this
We are not the land of the free anymore. We are the land of the minority. Don’t let them fool you that the majority are against gay marriages. If you look at these polls, they usually only sample a couple thousand people out of the millions. I prefer to keep the government and nosey neighbors out of my life. I’m capable of taking care of it without the moral police.
By someone
July 17, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
i agree with “whatever”…we will all look back on this in 10-20 years and say wtf? this happened with women, blacks, and now gays. when will people learn? bunch of IDIOTS in this country
By alice
July 17, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this
OK Frank, I’ll be sure and let my childless married friends know that they need to get busy on making a baby or get divorced… because that’s what the Bible (er… I mean Frank) says.
By concerned
July 17, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
To Gail- America wasn’t founded on your particular religion. We have freedom of religion (meaning you can practice ANY religion or not one at all) You are getting confused thinking that the Christian religion started America when it was started as a trading post. The constitution wasn’t written by or for your version of your religion.
By the Strawboss
July 17, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
To the thumpers, the Bible also says you can’t remarry unless your spouse had committed adultery, but no one wants that made into a law. Go figure…
By Frank
July 17, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this
Marriage was a religious, and then legal entity created to promote and secure the family and procreation. Government got involved due to property and other legal concerns - hence the “contract”. Since I know of no gay couple that can naturally procreate - marriage is out. Create a legal bond for all others - whatever they may be. And by the way - it is PURSUIT of happiness - not a legal guarantee.
By Paul
July 17, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this
Jim 5, your arguments are not logical, and poorly made, and just ridiculous.
By lbc
July 17, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
I find it odd that the same government that wants a separation of church and state feels it has the right to legislate morality. Is this the same “moral majority” that often finds its members caught up in scandals? Why shouldn’t same sex marriages be allowed, anyway? Obviously, heterosexuals haven’t done well with it, as 50% end in divorce. Just as you feel that what goes on in your home is no one’s business, the same applies for these consenting adults. We do have to give some credit though, politicians know how to run a “homophobe” campaign as a way of overshadowing issues - unemployment, health care, etc. - we really should be focusing on.
By lbc
July 17, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
I find it odd that the same government that wants a separation of church and state feels it has the right to legislate morality. Is this the same “moral majority” that often finds its members caught up in scandals? Why shouldn’t same sex marriages be allowed, anyway? Obviously, heterosexuals haven’t done well with it, as 50% end in divorce. Just as you feel that what goes on in your home is no one’s business, the same applies for these consenting adults. We do have to give some credit though, politicians know how to run a “homophobe” campaign as a way of overshadowing issues - unemployment, health care, etc. - we really should be focusing on.
By lbc
July 17, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
I find it odd that the same government that wants a separation of church and state feels it has the right to legislate morality. Is this the same “moral majority” that often finds its members caught up in scandals? Why shouldn’t same sex marriages be allowed, anyway? Obviously, heterosexuals haven’t done well with it, as 50% end in divorce. Just as you feel that what goes on in your home is no one’s business, the same applies for these consenting adults. We do have to give some credit though, politicians know how to run a “homophobe” campaign as a way of overshadowing issues - unemployment, health care, etc. - we really should be focusing on.
By lbc
July 17, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
I find it odd that the same government that wants a separation of church and state feels it has the right to legislate morality. Is this the same “moral majority” that often finds its members caught up in scandals? Why shouldn’t same sex marriages be allowed, anyway? Obviously, heterosexuals haven’t done well with it, as 50% end in divorce. Just as you feel that what goes on in your home is no one’s business, the same applies for these consenting adults. We do have to give some credit though, politicians know how to run a “homophobe” campaign as a way of overshadowing issues - unemployment, health care, etc. - we really should be focusing on.
By Jim 5
July 17, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
The issue is whether the government should recognize gay marriage. “Unrecognized” marriages have been taking place forever: slaves in the U.S., Christians in ancient Rome, etc. I have no problem with churches or ministers having the freedom of religion to marry two adult people of the same sex. Who, over thirty doesn’t know people of the same sex in healthy, long-term relationships? The political problem has been created by liberals hijacking the government in order to cram their “values” down our throats. Teacher’s union dues supporting abortion politics, affirmative action defense, and pushing homosexual exposure on our kids via the public education system have left the public leery. Leftist use of government levers for their war on Christianity, heterosexuals, families, and males has made the people jittery and mistrustful of state recognition for gay marriage, even when it would be in their best interests, such as in slowing the spread of AIDS by legitimizing monogamous relationships and protecting the emergency blood supply. Predictably, after forty years, the liberals’ chickens are coming home to roost.
By whatever
July 17, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this
not concerned: I know it was resolved. I was just trying to point out the ridiculousness of the whole thing. i’d give it a good 10-20 years and we can all look back on this time and go “WTF, seriously??”
By Alice
July 17, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this
I am completely in agreement with harddaysnight. Most people that oppose gay marriage say they are opposed for moral reasons, that it goes against their religious beliefs. By that same argument, why isn’t it also illegal for people of the opposite sex who also live by a different moral code to get married? Why can atheists legally get married? Because our rights guaranteed in the Constitution are not conditional on one person’s moral code, or by one religious text.
By GAIL
July 17, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
you do have a right for freeom and happiness but where does it say in the bible that 2 men or 2 women should marry?he (god) turned one city to stone casue of that. i say you should be able to be gay or lesbean and have insurance but you don’t need to change a marriage law to a birth cerficate to baby a-b etc.
By not concerned
July 17, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this
Those crazy Christians. Never wanting natural selection to win out. They have an effect on this issue also. To “whatever”, your issue was decided in 1967 by our Supreme Court. They did not say as to whether it was good or bad, just allowed.
By Sally
July 17, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
Now I’m confused here. I thought were done hating the Jews, the Japs, the Negroes, and the Homos. Isn’t this the week we are supposed to be hating people convicted of sex offences twenty years ago? Now let’s try to get our game plan figured out before next weeks “get togther.”
By harddaysnight
July 17, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this
If marriage is a legal contract the right should be given to everyone. If it is a religious rite then the government shouldn’t have any say. You don’t get it both ways. And I suppose there are no gay republicans FreedomLover? Just for the record, I am a Libertarian.
By rj
July 17, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
“Voters” didn’t want women to vote. “Voters” didn’t want Blacks to drink from the same water fountains as blacks. “Voters” didn’t want equal rights for women. Now “Voters” don’t want equal rights for gays and lesbians. This marriage situation was brought on by Republican scare tactics to re-elect George Bush. Careful, “Voters” think majority rules with a tinge of their “morality” tossed in. What happens if “Voters” decide they don’t like a particular newspaper or TV station?
By concerned
July 17, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
Found in the Declaration of Independence-We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are Created Equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. I guess for some people it means everyone except Gays and Lesbians.
By whatever
July 17, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this
so i guess interracial marriages are bad as well?
By FreedomLover
July 17, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
Well, this is quite a defining factor in the moral fabric between the two parties! Democrats lead perversion 2-1!