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October 13, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

John Mc sane said he want’s to put Country first, well he lied. He want’s to put John Mc sane first.The Country is not going anywhere, all he want’s is to get a State Funeral… President Obama will not will not let that happen.. Come Nov 4/08. we’ll send Mc sane in the park to feed the birds along with his nurse.OH sorry WIFE, and we’ll send 6 pack Mamma north to Alaska on a BROOM..

By Tim

October 9, 2008 8:36 PM | Link to this

Hey Leslie, you know Rick Davis is McCain’s campaign manager, right? You know that Davis firm was paid $60,000 a month from Fanny Mae for years? They cut it down to $15,000 a month even though Davis was no longer doing work for them because he was McCain’s guy. Davis accepted those payments until August 2008! Yeah it’s all the Democrats’ fault. Uh huh. As for “redistribution of wealth,” that’s what’s been going on for the last eight years… the massive redistribution of wealth from the working and middle classes to the ultra rich. Time to put an end to that! And look at all the benefits that trickle-down theory has reaped. How’s your 401K today?

By Maria-Luise Fiedler

October 9, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

I vote for intelligence, education, health, youth, anytime! And I may add:”Brains have no color”! (Oh, yes, I know, they are grey matter, and it matters!)

By Leslie

October 9, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

Millions of Americans are caught up in the nation’s housing crisis. Franklin Raines, the Democratic insider who ran Fannie Mae between 1999 and 2004, isn’t one of them. Washingtonian says Raines just paid $4.9 million for “a three-bedroom, seven-bath penthouse condominium” in Washington’s Ritz-Carlton Residences. The Washington Post says Raines and his wife are splitting up and agreed to sell their old house for $7.6 million. Fannie Mae, a mortgage finance company that is now controlled by the government, had to restate billions in earnings because of accounting problems during his tenure. “Regulators have said that of the $90 million paid to Mr. Raines from 1998 to 2003 at least $52 million � more than half � was tied to bonus targets that were reached by manipulating accounting,” The New York Times reported two years ago. Thanks Pelosi, Barney Frank, and President Obama!!!! Glad this democrat isn’t suffering!! Guess wealth redistribution really works!

By Luke

October 9, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

Thanks for that. I agree, I’m not too thrilled with the national health care models that I see. What I think about though are the employees I had who ended up with no health care and needed to find new jobs. Is making businesses foot the bill the right way to go? And what’s to guarantee your health provider is going to cover you anyways? Seems like what I’m hearing, since it’s cheaper to pay out a lawsuit (due to maximum amounts passed by congress protecting HMO’s and insurance companies) than provide coverage, providers are simply dropping their patients or flat out refusing to provide services they are contracted for. A couple of notes to consider: the US is 32nd in the world in infant mortality, 37th in health care quality (France is 2nd) and conservative counts attribute over 400,000 personal bankruptcies due to medical costs in the US for 2007.

By Leslie

October 9, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

People believe Bush is tied to big oil and corporations and works for them and they don’t want that anymore. Great so Obama is tied to big anti-American corporations and wealthy anti-Americans and he does their bidding. Excellent I’m ready for change. Time to let the anti-Americans run this country. Communism here we come.

By Tim

October 9, 2008 2:11 AM | Link to this

One person writes that Obama has been “molded” by radical Islamic terrorists, who got him into Harvard. Does the FBI and CIA know what you know? If so, are they letting Obama’s certain victory happen anyway? Does the FBI and CIA hate America? Or is it that under Bush and the Republicans these organizations have become inept and useless? Here’s another, more likely possibility: it’s a lie you’ve bought about Obama without even thinking it through.

By LT

October 9, 2008 1:59 AM | Link to this

wow, cf has to be the lamest person to write in the comment section. what does obama’s parents have to do with the election. have some respect for the deceased. (if you don’t know what respect is, look it up)i think you’re one of those individuals who have no common sense, so they try to put down those who are smarter than you. so sad. anyway, obama is clearly the winner, and showed more poise, and confidence than mccan’t. mccan’t was so intimidated and disrectful of obama that he didn’t shake his hand at the end of the debate. this shows what type of person he is.

By response to luke

October 9, 2008 1:46 AM | Link to this

Luke, I would ask you to look at reviews of health care systems that are run by the government. London, Denmark ect.. If you look at the numbers they run everything through budgets. This can be good or it can be bad. Good reasons: it gets spending undercontrol and may help with costs. The Bad: In a study released in the spring Lodon hospitals turned away 16000 patients to have major surgery due to the desire to make the budget. All other surgeries that were preformed had an average wait time of 8 months. If that ok with you, then fine. But if i need a surgery for a sports related injury (torn rotator cuff ex) I do not want to wait 8 months to have it repaired. ONly in 8 months to have it denied. Another bad point about this type of health care. Because of budgets, hospitals cannot afford to hire enough phycians and nurses. This is one of the main reasons for the wait time. But they are also not being able to attract students to go into the medical field due to being under paid (average nurse income in london is 16,000/yr) So please look at the systems that we are trying to model here and decide for yourself if you want that. Nationalized health care is great for the healthy, but the sick will suffer.

By john

October 9, 2008 1:33 AM | Link to this

Why is the media, including the dayton daily news seeming to be biased?

By karon

October 9, 2008 12:51 AM | Link to this

HEALTH CARE IS A RIGHT! HEALTHY PEOPLE MAKE A VERY STRONG NATION!

By Luke

October 9, 2008 12:37 AM | Link to this

A question I have is, why the heck does health care have to be connected with a job? Health care costs were just too expensive for my small business and too expensive for when I consulted. Now that I’m working for a big employer, I can see the costs killing their bottom line. And why the heck do we need HMOs and private insurance companies anyways? My out-of-pocket costs have risen while the care and service is hitting the crapper. And the few friends that I have who are physicians don’t seem to be doing very well themselves. I don’t know. I don’t have much confidence in our health care system. Will we see that fall apart soon, too?

By Ecartman

October 8, 2008 11:52 PM | Link to this

Looks like a lot of Springtuckians ate Barry’s crap sandwich and washed it down with some nice refreshing kool-aid. God help us all

By Jim

October 8, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this

Tom, I couldn’t agree with you more. McCain sold out when he selected Palin and then hired the same people who smeared him in 2000. The issue I think people should be outraged about is McCain’s health care plan. McCain wants to TAX as INCOME, your employee health care benefits. McCain wants to deregulate and privatize the health care industry. This is great for the wealthy and big business, but terrible for the middle class. The quality of heath care would suffer and more people would uninsured then ever. This is another wolf in sheep’s clothing. When will the Republicans stop their assault on the middle class?

By saywhat

October 8, 2008 11:13 PM | Link to this

AHMK From Alaska: Obama honors his extended family? Would that be his(and I quote Obama), “racist grandmother” in Kansas? And what about his extended family in Kenya? Would that be his brother who struggles to earn $1 a month? Or his grandmother who also lives in a shack in the midst of poverty? So much for being concerned for the poor and impoverished. If that is what you consider “exemplary values”, then get ready that is where we will go with Obam/Biden.

By Robert

October 8, 2008 10:20 PM | Link to this

To Voting McCain: McCain didn’t sacrifice his life. He’s still alive (kind of). And he definitely wasn’t in Vietnam to protect our freedom. Vietnam was never a threat to my freedom or yours. It was a threat, however, to big business. Another case of Americans dying for greedy corporate bosses & the politicians whose pockets they line.

By Tom

October 8, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this

freedomlover, which “radical socialist” proposed buying up $300 billion in bad mortgages by the federal government? Which party has brought a 70% increase in government spending, doubled the national debt, and gone from a surplus to a $500 billion deficit? Hint: not Obama’s party. The only joke is that some people think McCain would actually do a good job. Wait, the other joke is that some people think Palin is qualified.

By Tom

October 8, 2008 9:19 PM | Link to this

Jim, which of Palin’s FIVE schools in SIX years were you asking about? To suggest that Obama got into Harvard because of some terrorist ties is outrageous. Just despicable. But that’s all these fools have left, to make up some garbage in the faint hopes that a couple people just might believe it. Disgusting politics. McCain is such a freaking hypocrite, hiring the same people that ruined his 2000 campaign. It’s really kind of sad, except Obama is ‘only’ up about 6-11 points in the national polls, not 25 points like he should be. Latest Ohio poll shows him up 6 points, though, and fivethirtyeight.com projects over 90% chance of an Obama victory.

By Freedomlover

October 8, 2008 9:14 PM | Link to this

This whole election is a joke! We have the choice between the Republicrat John McCain, or a radical socialist that will lead this nation into tyranny.In regards to the town hall meeting, Barak Hussein Obama, was the most charismatic and charming of the two candidates. However, Hitler was charismatic too. If elected president, I wonder how high the body county will rise?

By Jim

October 8, 2008 8:38 PM | Link to this

Let�s not forget that McCain wanted to privatize Social Security. Where would those close to retirement be right now if McCain had succeeded and Social Security had been placed with Wall Street? McCain�s policies always favor big business and rarely help the working class. He�s out of touch with what families are going through in this country.

By akmk from Alaska

October 8, 2008 8:14 PM | Link to this

Senator Obama exemplifies family values. He honors his parents and his grandparents. He honors the stories of his extended family in Kenya. He has been married to one beautiful wife for sixteen years and he has two beautiful daughters. He honors his wife, works at his marriage, and supports his children. He respects women and works to uphold their rights. He’s worked in communities to better the lives of children, teenagers, and families. He has his own Christian faith, but does not impose that faith on others. He values his own family and honors the families of others. His economic proposals are designed to help and lift up working families. He is working for a better health care system with an emphasis on prevention that is affordable and accessible to all—for families. He understands that families need clean air, clean water, healthy food, and adequate shelter. He leads his family and his country by example, with honesty and compassion. In the Town Hall debate, Obama clearly stated his priorities. 1 A smarter and more diverse energy policy to invest in jobs, turn the economy around and stabilize world tensions. 2 Health care is a right. An emphasis on prevention will reduce costs of health insurance and Medicare. I support these priorities. Kathleen Menke Haines, Alaska 907-766-3517

By voting mccain

October 8, 2008 7:33 PM | Link to this

good point bill! i’m glad to say i have a job because of a few very rich people who pay A LOT of taxes. barry hussein will get in office, and my job will be eliminated because they won’t be able to afford to pay me. then what’s barry gonna do about my mortgage when i can’t pay for it…bail me out too? how about NOT RAISING TAXES AT ALL!!! wake up america! know what you’re voting for! check out their past voting before you feed into what they tell you. they are politicians!! besides, what has old barry done for this country anyway. learn radicalism as a community organizer? john mccain sacrificed his life for this country, and our freedoms. that’s more than barry hussein ever thought about doing. put him in a prison camp like mccain was in and see how quickly he gives his country up. even his own vice presidential nominee had nothing good to say about him before he chose him to run with him…

By Dan

October 8, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this

When all is said and done. I want people to answer this one question. Does the candidate control the party or does the party control the candidate?

By Bill C.

October 8, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

I agree. It’s time to raise taxes on all the big businesses and make them pay…pay for moving their businesses and jobs overseas that is. That’s one of the problems with Middletown. Middletown can’t attract businesses because of the local government, therefore you either don’t have a job or you work outside of the city’s limits. Most of you just don’t get it. Have any of you ever worked for a poor person? Take AK for example. AK employs 7,000 Americans. You raise the taxes on AK and as a business, they will take one of three actions. 1.) Cut jobs to keep their profit margin. 2.) Pass on the loss of income to the consumer by raising their prices. 3.) Move their operations elsewhere costing the economy 7,000 jobs. The idea of business is to make a profit, it isn’t about breaking even! When Obama is elected, along with a democrat Senate and House…standby to standby. This whole economic “crisis” is a direct result of Barney Frank (D Mass). He blocked oversight of Freddie and Fannie. He was also dating one of the guys at Fannie. Can you say conflict of interest? Obama received the second highest amount of contributions from Fannie/Freddie. Your tax payer dollars. I’m so tired of people looking to the government to solve their problems. Solve your own problems. If you want a govenment to take care of you, move to China and leave your citizenship at the airport. When you get there and settle in, try crying and moaning to the gov’t over there.

By healthcare

October 8, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this

how is Obama going to lower the cost of healthcare? cut wages on healthcare employees or doctors?why go to school 4 years to be a nurse or 10 plus years to be a doctor if there is not any money to make. afterall, insurance for doctors is through the roof because of people suing for anything they can get money for.and while we are at it lets let everyone go to college and lets raise minimum wage to 10 or 12 dollars per hour. maybe then, eveyone will be happy.

By healthcare

October 8, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this

how is Obama going to lower the cost of healthcare? cut wages on healthcare employees or doctors?why go to school 4 years to be a nurse or 10 plus years to be a doctor if there is not any money to make. afterall, insurance for doctors is through the roof because of people suing for anything they can get money for.and while we are at it lets let everyone go to college and lets raise minimum wage to 10 or 12 dollars per hour. maybe then, eveyone will be happy.

By healthcare

October 8, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this

how is Obama going to lower the cost of healthcare? cut wages on healthcare employees or doctors?why go to school 4 years to be a nurse or 10 plus years to be a doctor if there is not any money to make. afterall, insurance for doctors is through the roof because of people suing for anything they can get money for.and while we are at it lets let everyone go to college and lets raise minimum wage to 10 or 12 dollars per hour. maybe then, eveyone will be happy.

By Ethel S.

October 8, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

And did the American people win last night? Whoever wins this election should be able to unite this country and have the ability to work across the aisle to put programs into place we need to guide our nation to glory again. Sen. McCain has such a long proven record of doing so. Some people were not listening last night because Sen. McCain’s Social Security resolution was to have a Commission like the very successful one put together in 1983 by another GOP President Ronald Reagan. For those who are not familiar with the law, research it because it was bipartisan with the brightest minds in our country and it is the law that kept the Social Security program sound for all these many years. It was Sen. Obama’s plan I did not understand because it was something about taxes. In the past, it was to raise the FICA taxes. There seems to be alot of Sen. Obama supporters out there very eager to pay all the many taxes needed to fund all the Sen. Obama program proposals. Sen. McCain clearly won the debate last night because his closing speech was very passionate about returning this country to greatest again and Sen. McCain has spent his life time putting his country first.

By taxes

October 8, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

lets tax the corporations of the United States that are already taxed at 35% so they will all leave the States to go to a country where they only pay 11%

By healthy

October 8, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

Obama released his medical records months ago. Unlike Mc Same, he is healthy.

By Buccaroo

October 8, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

Wow - I can’t believe you guys believe all the whoppers that the McCain-Palin express has been circulating. All because your guys aren’t doing well in the polls and in the debates. Look at the McCain doctrine why don’t ya, and you’ll see that is all about deregulation and helpiong the already-rich. We don’t need that. Why wasn’t McCain telling people nationwide to buy American with their stimulus checks??? Why not help the Longaberger basket company, with America labor and high quality instead of getting bad fall-apart Chinese stuff. How about CutCo knives, high-quality and made in Orlean Upstate NY? And McCain doesn’t get that buying up failed mortgages — to sell back to the person who lost his house? Hey, if he’s unemployed and there’s not jobs, he can’t pay ANY mortgage! Come on - Obama’s correct - you have to get the jobs back, before you can refinance a guy’s house! Common sense of regular people.

By Buccaroo

October 8, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

Wow - I can’t believe you guys believe all the whoppers that the McCain-Palin express has been circulating. All because your guys aren’t doing well in the polls and in the debates. Look at the McCain doctrine why don’t ya, and you’ll see that is all about deregulation and helpiong the already-rich. We don’t need that. Why wasn’t McCain telling people nationwide to buy American with their stimulus checks??? Why not help the Longaberger basket company, with America labor and high quality instead of getting bad fall-apart Chinese stuff. How about CutCo knives, high-quality and made in Orlean Upstate NY? And McCain doesn’t get that buying up failed mortgages — to sell back to the person who lost his house? Hey, if he’s unemployed and there’s not jobs, he can’t pay ANY mortgage! Come on - Obama’s correct - you have to get the jobs back, before you can refinance a guy’s house! Common sense of regular people.

By not voting obama

October 8, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

hey jim, maybe you should get your facts straight before you speak. Obama didn’t get into Harvard based on his grades at Columbia!. He got in because of his community organizer job where he was taught the ways of socialism and radicalism. There is a man by the name of Khadik Al-Mansour. He is a radicalist who has ties to terrorists and the saudi arabians who control most of our oil. This is how Obama got into Harvard. They have been molding him for a long time for this. He is so slick and such a good speaker, that people who don’t know any better, actually believe him. Not that i’m a huge mccain/palin supporter, but it’s a heck of a lot better than socialism and radicalism. my vote goes to mccain in this election hands down.

By Leslie

October 8, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

The earliest form of HMOs can be seen in a number of prepaid health plans. In 1910, the Western Clinic in Tacoma, Washington offered lumber mill owners and their employees certain medical services from its providers for a premium of $0.50 per member per month. This is considered by some to be the first example of an HMO. However, Ross-Loos Medical Group, established in 1929, is considered to be the first HMO in the United States; it was headquartered in Los Angeles and initially provided services for Los Angeles Department of Water and Power (DWP) and Los Angeles County employees. Approximately 500 DWP employees enrolled at a cost of $1.50 each per month. Within a year, the Los Angeles Fire Department signed up, then the Los Angeles Police Department, then the Southern California Telephone Company, (now at&t) and more. By 1951, enrollment stood at 35,000 and included teachers, county and city employees. In 1982 through the merger of the Insurance Company of North America (INA) founded in 1792 and Connecticut General (CG) founded in 1865 came together to become CIGNA. Ross-Loos Medical Group, became now known as CIGNA HealthCare. Also in 1929 Dr. Michael Shadid created a health plan in Elk City, Oklahoma in which farmers bought shares for $50 to raise the money to build a hospital. The medical community did not like this arrangement and threatened to suspend Shadid’s licence. The Farmer’s Union took control of the hospital and the health plan in 1934. Also in 1929, Baylor Hospital provided approximately 1,500 teachers with prepaid care. This was the origin of Blue Cross. Around 1939, state medical societies created Blue Shield plans to cover physician services, as Blue Cross covered only hospital services. These prepaid plans burgeoned during the Great Depression as a method for providers to ensure constant and steady revenue. In 1970, the number of HMOs declined to less than 40. Paul Ellwood, often called the “father” of the HMO, began having discussions with what is today the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services that led to the enactment of the Health Maintenance Organization Act of 1973. This act had three main provisions: Grants and loans were provided to plan, start, or expand an HMO Certain state-imposed restrictions on HMOs were removed if the HMOs were federally certified Employers with 25 or more employees were required to offer federally certified HMO options alongside indemnity upon request This last provision, called the dual choice provision, was the most important, as it gave HMOs access to the critical employer-based market that had often been blocked in the past. The federal government was slow to issue regulations and certify plans until 1977, when HMOs began to grow rapidly. The dual choice provision expired in 1995. In 1971, Dr. Gordon K MacLeod MD developed and became the director of the United States’ first federal Health Maintenance Organization (HMO) program. He was recruited by Elliot Richardson, former secretary of the U.S. Department of Health, Education and Welfare. Your right government intervention has worked out real well. We never learn from history.

By You Must Be Jokin

October 8, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

Thinkaboutit, You say that you are a police officer and that we should vote for McCain if we want to keep our jobs. I guess you would say that since everyone else are losing thier jobs they may have to turn to crime. So I guess you’ll always have work; huh?

By Jim

October 8, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

Obama received his BA from Columbia. He obviously had good enough grades to get into Harvard Law School where he graduated magna c*m laude. Now, what was Palin’s GPA?

By secrets

October 8, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

why is Obama not releasing his transcripts or senior thesis from the two colleges that he attended for four years before Harvard.????? Nor will he release his medical records????? Hmmmmm…….

By Obama/Biden '08

October 8, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

Michelle, You shouldn’t even be allowed to have a computer. Why waste your time typing something that is so stupid?

By Valdar

October 8, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

�People Don�t Realize How Many Factories are Gone�: Union Members Talk to Ohio Governor Ted Strickland, September 28, 2008 and then later McCain said, �I can�t tell you that these jobs are ever going to come back to this magnificent part of the country.� My sister works at the Moraine Truck Plant�..she will lose her job, as my niece did when the GM plant closed about 18 months ago. I am stationed overseas with the military, so my job is presently secure, but I do feel for the people in Dayton and the other areas of Ohio. It does not matter how honest the candidates might be now when making a promise, for things have now changed and we have no guarantees that either candidate will ever be able to keep any promise made. But I know that I do want a change from the 8 years of Bush/Cheney/Rove�.and that change can only be achieved by voting AGAINST McCain/Palin. At least now we still have the freedom to vote and a choice for whom we vote for this time. And we have a choice in what movies we wish to watch and what books that we wish to read. Let�s hope that Palin will never be near the White House for then those choices and freedoms could be in danger. I would love to hear more about Palin�s pastor who finds witches�can anyone direct me to some good sites? Perhaps the person who talked about Noah and the flood could direct me to some good sites on Palin�s pastor.

By Tom

October 8, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

Leslie, you’re wrong. In the case of health care, competition has driven prices up, up, up, and put more and more and more money into the insurance companies’ pockets. That is a failed system, and to make it MORE like the banking industry, as McCain has proposed, would be even worse. Wake up, people. These associations are nothing but a transparent political move by the far right to grasp at any straw they can find. Is it really important who someone’s pastor is? Because if it is, you should care that Palin’s is a witch hunter. I don’t care about that; I think she’s terrible for any number of other reasons. But if that’s all you got, that’s weak, just like McCain’s entire campaign.

By Jim

October 8, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Let’s not forget McCain wanted to privatize Social Security. Where would our senior citizens be if he had succeeded and turned their safety net over to Wall Street? Working Americans have already lost over a trillion out of their pensions, and just two weeks ago McCain said, “The fundamentals of our economy are strong”

By Leslie

October 8, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

Market competition always drives price down. Health insurance has always had strict controls on it, now allowing one to shop around, therefore, they are able to keep the insurance high cause choices are limited. Kind a like cable. The banking industry in the financial crisis was deregulated by Bill Clinton, allowing some institutions to get involved in speculation and those are connected to democrats.

By We have failed ourselves

October 8, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

Jason I agree with your point. Politicians are to work for the best interest of the people. Not their personal interest. Yet this goes on and on and look at our Country. It is the American people’s fault for not demanding answers and staying on top of Washington like most people do with their pro or college sports team. I would have loved to vote on the bail out package and demand what/who the pork was in there for since I will eventually be paying for it. We need to clear out the lobbyists - they are killing this Country. Term limits for the congress and senate. McCain has been around 26 years and what has he done so great to help this Country. He helped himself first. If Obama gets elected I am going to have my radar on him continuously to make sure he is doing his job. McCain had his chance AND if he was serious about winning he would never have picked Palin. What a joke to play on the American people who are suffering under the Bush and Chaney administration. The American people need to demand Bush and Chaney be brought up on war crime charges for telling lies about Iraq to the American people.

By Go to Rollingstone Website

October 8, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

Read the make-believe Maverick article. Very interesting. long but well worth it.

By Go to Rollingstone Website

October 8, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

Read the make-believe Maverick article. Very interesting. long but well worth it.

By Jim

October 8, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

Here�s a direct quote from John McCain: �Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation�. It�s obvious he wants to drive health care into the same ditch as our economy by more and more deregulation.

By michelle

October 8, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

Why are we looking at Obama & MCcain? If Obama wins he will be assassinated cuz americans are not ready for a biracial president and Mccain will have a heartattack we need to be looking at the vice presidents

By ~The Best Man

October 8, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

Hey, I have an idea! Let Palin’s daughter run for President!!! She might win. She’s not black. Some people sound like they would rahter see anybody win as long as they are not black. I don’t get it.

By Jim

October 8, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

McCain has shown his judgment to be impaired by selecting Sarah Palin as his running mate. Palin is now on the Campaign trail inciting mob like behavior with her lies and smear tactics. It�s disgraceful and American�s should unequivocally reject this type of character defamation.

By Leslie

October 8, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

Obama�s tax �plan� will definitely hurt the American people and economy as a whole. Sure, he�ll say the middle class will get a tax break under his plan (on average, about $1,000/family), but in the long run, the middle class will be paying that right back to support all of his other plans. In addition, taxing the wealthy and big business will result in lost jobs, more loopholes found to hide taxable income, and less overall investment in the markets, thus slowing the economy. McCain�s plan to double the child exemption is brilliant (giving the average family of four an additional average of $1,500) and the health care refund is a dollar for dollar credit to allow taxpayers to shop around for their care, thus creating a free market system, which should drive costs down. Even if premiums are taxed above the line, taxpayers come out in the end because that taxable amount is only taxed at your tax bracket rate, whereas the credit is a dollar for dollar tax liability reduction. Bottom line: more money in your pockets oveall regardless of wealth status. McCain is BY FAR the better choice on taxes alone.

By Jim

October 8, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this

Regardless Leslie, those jobs are now gone and Rick Davis played a key role in lobbying John McCain’s support for the DHL takeover of Airborne Express. If you want to keep your job and not see it shipped overseas, vote Obama/Biden.

By thinkaboutit

October 8, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

Wow, when I read these blogs, it really scares me that you people represent voting america. I have never read such rediculous writings and/or opinions in all my life, and being a police officer, I have seen some really funny things. This is not a race issue, quit making it one. It is however a time to act, we are watching our economy crumble under the democratic controled congress. You people who vote for Obama because he is going to give the middle class a tax break and not busineses. What do you think the business are going to do when they don’t get a decent tax break!!! Their going to move their going to lay off workers. If business are not getting relief, it will trickle down. When was the last time you saw a business take a hit, without putting it back on their employess and/or customers. Why I would love to get a break in taxes, we also need to make it worthwhile for business to stay here and employee us!!!Wake up people!!!! VOTE MCCAIN, and hopefully keep your job.

By Leslie

October 8, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

Maybe we can talk about how those Airborne jobs were in Kentucky and moved to Wilmington leaving many without jobs in Kentucky.

By Jim

October 8, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

I wonder if Sarah Palin is going take Rick Davis, the McCain campaign manager, with her when she goes to Wilmington Thursday? Maybe he can explain how he lobbied McCain for the DHL takeover of Airborne and the subsequent loss of 8,000 jobs.

By Jason

October 8, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

For the most part I agree with just about everyone on this issue. Mccain is old and incompetant and Obama is too young and inexperienced. At what point do we say enough is enough and stand up as one. White and black, Young and old, Male and female and say we want a leader not a politician. The destruction of our society lies in the hands of each and everyone of us yet we get on here and complain about one of two failures of our country. Forget Obama and Mccain and demand our voice. Also, on a side note how many people here were able to sway the governments decision on the bail out?

By NoObama

October 8, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

You can call me ignorant…I’m just using common sense.. As far as the world coming to an end…people back in Noah’s days said the same thing about being foolish that a flood was coming. Time will tell all. It’s only by God’s mercy and love that he has not already came back and destroyed this earth just as he did Sodom and Gomorah.

By Leslie

October 8, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

Because the evidence brought against him was illegally obtained and unuasable in court. In 1970 he “went underground” with several associates after the Greenwich Village townhouse explosion, in which Weatherman member Ted Gold, Ayers’ close friend Terry Robbins, and Ayers’ girlfriend, Diana Oughton, were killed when a nail bomb (an anti-personnel device) they were assembling exploded. Kathy Boudin and Cathy Wilkerson survived the blast. Ayers was not facing criminal charges at the time, but the federal government later filed charges against him.[2]Ayers participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, the United States Capitol building in 1971, and The Pentagon in 1972, as he noted in his 2001 book, Fugitive Days. Because of a water leak caused by the Pentagon bombing, aerial bombardments during the Vietnam War had to be halted for several days. In an interview published in 1995, Ayers characterized his political beliefs at that time and in the 1960s and 1970s: “I am a radical, Leftist, small ‘c’ communist … [Laughs] Maybe I’m the last communist who is willing to admit it. [Laughs] We have always been small ‘c’ communists in the sense that we were never in the [Communist] party and never Stalinists. The ethics of Communism still appeal to me. I don’t like Lenin as much as the early Marx. I also like Henry David Thoreau, Mother Jones and Jane Addams […]”[27]In 1970 Ayers was called “a national leader”[28] of the Weatherman organization and “one of the chief theoreticians of the Weathermen”.[29] The Weathermen were initially part of the Revolutionary Youth Movement (RYM) within the SDS, splitting from the RYM’s Maoists by claiming there was no time to build a vanguard party and that revolutionary war against the United States government and the capitalist system should begin immediately. Their founding document called for the establishment of a “white fighting force” to be allied with the “Black Liberation Movement” and other “anti-colonial” movements[30] to achieve “the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism.”[31] In June 1974, the Weather Underground released a 151-page volume titled Prairie Fire, which stated: “We are a guerrilla organization […] We are communist women and men underground in the United States […]”[32] The Weatherman leadership, including Bill Ayers, pushed for a radical reformulation of sexual relations under the slogan “Smash Monogamy”.

By foolish nobama

October 8, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

the world has been around for 100s of billions of years. for you to say the world is coming to an end is just hilarious. you extreme religious folks have been saying that for years.

By tattletale69

October 8, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

To Noobama: You show your ingnorance through your fear. And we’re suppose to take your advise? Read, travel, open your mind! GO OBAMA!

By AwNawWhat

October 8, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

I see some bigoted and racist attitudes posting. Clearly, Obama won! However, I do understand all the Obama Envy from the Repubican candidates Wrinkly/Winky.

By NoObama

October 8, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

All I can say is that who ever becomes president will be God’s plan. I believe with all my heart that we have to be in the end times. 20-30 years ago we would have never imagined that things would not be as they are today. I have talked to many people as far back as those who served in World War II and Vietnam and those who have been around for a while and they will tell you they have never seen times like we are seeing today

By Valdar

October 8, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

People of Ohio, this election is NOT about who won this debate. Well, at least it should not be. But I will paraphrase someone who explained it better than I can. He said this election is about what’s important to America at this crucial point in our nation’s history. It is about recovering from the disastrous Bush/Cheney/Rove/McCain foreign policy legacy. It is about the terrible financial crises we are in now. It is about our young men being murdered in a war started on a lie. It is about our American honor in the world. And also, for people of Dayton and Ohio, it should be about what was recently announced—the closing of the Moraine plant in December. No, people this election is not about who won the debate. And it should not be about character attacks. Just as the lipstick, the glasses, the heels and the scandals surrounding Palin drew attention away from the issues—these character attacks also draw attention away from the issues. But for people who want to play the character attack game, we could go after McCain’s fundraiser with G. Gordon Liddy who had advocated killing federal agents by shooting them in the face. We could make as a centerpiece of the campaign John McCain’s vote against the seminal 1990s legislation that protected women’s health clinics from anti-choice terrorists. We could talk about Keating and McCain�s involvement. Or perhaps even more dangerous would be that in the early 1980s McCain sat on the board of the US Council for World Freedom, which was part of an international organization accused of being linked to former Nazi collaborators. We could talk about Sarah Palin’s involvement with the pro-secessionist Alaskan Independence Party. We could savage her extremist witch-doctor religious freak show. Or question the possibility of her abuse of power in Troopergate, or leaving her city in great debt or working with the big oil companies in Alaska. We could do all that, but that’s not what this campaign is about. It has nothing to do with McCain saying, I just hate gooks, it is not about adultery or who committed it. The problem for John McCain is that this election isn’t about Barack Obama. It is about the America People and honor and integrity and telling the truth. This time in Ohio, let us make the correct choice and vote for Obama/Biden and end the 8 years of disaster. At least then we will have a better chance.

By devin

October 8, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

Nobama, Just because he has a musslim back ground ( due to his family on his fathers side). Doesn’t mean he is going to run airforce one into the white house. Or His stupid pastor. Those people have hate and its spills out of the mouths like vomit at a frate party. Obama is better than than that. And Promoting abortion. That is a choice that a woman has to make for herself. The government can not and should not have a say in that at all. Other than the regulations for this procedure. They should have a limit on the amount of kids you can have as an unwed mother. Welfare should only cover two kids and these fathers should cover the rest. Its like a baby factory. The more kids the more money the government. ie( the tax payer) has to fork out. Don’t get me started on this subject.

By devin

October 8, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

Nobama, Just because he has a musslim back ground ( due to his family on his fathers side). Doesn’t mean he is going to run airforce one into the white house. Or His stupid pastor. Those people have hate and its spills out of the mouths like vomit at a frate party. Obama is better than than that. And Promoting abortion. That is a choice that a woman has to make for herself. The government can not and should not have a say in that at all. Other than the regulations for this procedure. They should have a limit on the amount of kids you can have as an unwed mother. Welfare should only cover two kids and these fathers should cover the rest. Its like a baby factory. The more kids the more money the government. ie( the tax payer) has to fork out. Go get me started.

By NoObama

October 8, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

wow leslie…Obama’s mother remarried another man who was also muslim and who had a big part in raising Obama.

By wow leslie...

October 8, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

you are completey missing the fact that barack obama was raised by his single white christian mother, not his dead beat muslim dad. he has worked extremely hard to be where he is, unlike mccain who was born of privilege from an admirals son. mccain ranked 394 out of 399 at graduation and was nearly kicked out of college twice but because his admiral dad made a few phone calls he was forgiven for his vulgar insubordination. mccain has used his fathers status and money all his life to climb the social ladder. he has not eanred anything with his bare hands. also, lets not forget the keating saving and loan scandal that mccain was directly involved in. he cannot be trusted to repair our failing economy becuase he does not have anyones interests in mind except his own.

By T800

October 8, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

If William Ayers is a terrorist that was responsible for bombings wouldnt he be in jail????

By NoObama

October 8, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

T800…I don’t think we have a whole lot of options. I do not care for either candidate but one of the two have to become president.

By Glus

October 8, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this

The liberals and the Liberal main stream media are trying their best to make the associations thing a non issue. However IT IS an issue for the rest of us. Obamas character is flawed.

By T800

October 8, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

This whole debate thing is a job interview and McCain and Palin have avoided serious question just to ramble on about whatever they wanted. If they interviewed like this for McDonalds they would not get hired, but people want them to run our country.

By Leslie

October 8, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this

�The Chicago Annenberg Challenge stands as Barack Obama�s most important executive experience to date. By its own account, CAC was a largely a failure. And a series of critical evaluations point to reasons for that failure, including a poor strategy, to which the foundation over-committed in 1995, and over-reliance on community organizers with insufficient education expertise. The failure of CAC thus raises entirely legitimate questions, both about Obama�s competence, his alliances with radical community organizers, and about Ayers�s continuing influence over CAC and its board, headed by Obama. Above all, by continuing to fund Ayers�s personal projects, and those of his political-educational allies, Obama was lending moral and material support to Ayers�s profoundly radical efforts. Ayers�s terrorist history aside, that makes the Ayers-Obama relationship a perfectly legitimate issue in this campaign.� As far as Obama�s past association with Ayers, Obama claims that Ayers was �one of thousands� of people he knew. We�re not sure how many boards Obama has sat on as Chairman and President but one would think he�d remember the �founder� who was once a famous member of a notorious far left terrorist group that bombed the Pentagon and the Capital Building. In fact, in 2001, Bill Ayers was written about in the New York Times, when Obama was still Chair of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. The article in the Times was published the same day that hijackers boarded four planes and ended up murdering over 3,000 innocent citizens. Bill Ayers was pictured standing on the American flag.

By NoObama

October 8, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

Devin…huh? Don’t get it…again you are bringing up race. I just posted comments of what I have physically seen. It would not make a difference if Obama was a full blooded white person…if he was white I would still have the exact feelings….HE IS SCARY with his non-belief in pledging to the flag, previous contacts, muslium backgroud, and under 20 years of teaching of blaspheming America and promoting abortion

By devin

October 8, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Ok, one more thing. For “Nobama”. You say that your afraid of obama because of his socalled association w/his pastor and friend or what not. That is ridiculious. This doesn’t say to anyone other than you that, what he see’s and hears he will follow. He may see and hear it and not agree with it. Thus pushes his detremenation to change the thinking of radicals and prove once in for all that there is good out there. You might as well say to us readers that ” well if he’s black that fried chicken will be on the menu at the white house” Isn’t that what they do? Or Since he’s white all future Klan meetings will replace the Easter Egg hunt on the back lawn” Don’t be stupid.

By Ned

October 8, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

McCain’s own blog is full of people talking about how awful he was. Go to his website, look for yourself.

By Tom

October 8, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

I’m not the grammar police, but when you start a statement with “do you want the United States to be a socialism,” then the rest of your comment cannot be taken seriously. Obama does not have to “defend” sitting on a bipartisan charity board with someone who did some terrible stuff 40 years ago. McCain ought to defend why he is against science and education, as evidenced by his misguided wailing about the projector for the planetarium. God forbid we educate children, women, and minorities. That must be the “wasteful spending” that McCain is against.

By Comments

October 8, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

When someone wrote of “adulterous buffoon” for a moment I thought it was a referral to McCain, who cheated on his first wife with Cindy… since we should be talking about the present. At any rate, last night watching the debate I got the distinct impression that McCain really does not want the job. Repubs knew they would lose and so McCain is the fall guy. Then he turned around & chose Palin, the clueless Caribou Barbie, as the ultimate cynical and defiant act. Americans are once again being played for fools. Obama will win, and the Republicans have given it up. They knew the economy was in dire straits and no one can fix it. Obama will get elected and then everyone will blame HIM for a problem that he did not cause, while McCain and his wife Cindy will be treated to spas at posh retreats in AZ when this is all over.

By Comments

October 8, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

When someone wrote of “adulterous buffoon” for a moment I thought it was a referral to McCain, who cheated on his first wife with Cindy… since we should be talking about the present. At any rate, last night watching the debate I got the distinct impression that McCain really does not want the job. Repubs knew they would lose and so McCain is the fall guy. Then he turned around & chose Palin, the clueless Caribou Barbie, as the ultimate cynical and defiant act. Americans are once again being played for fools. Obama will win, and the Republicans have given it up. They knew the economy was in dire straits and no one can fix it. Obama will get elected and then everyone will blame HIM for a problem that he did not cause, while McCain and his wife Cindy will be treated to spas at posh retreats in AZ when this is all over.

By Ivan

October 8, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

Obama for the common good! Greetings, my fellow friends and comrades. In a short time, we will have accomplished our near term goals. You are all doing a wonderful job of humiliating the republicans and conservatives. Continue in your mission to the good end, which is the rise of the state. The state is the answer to all of your problems. Death to conservative values and independent thought. Death to individualism. Death to capitalism. You are all better off when we all share in the bounty of the state. Praise to the state. Praise to community efforts. I will share the bounty with you all in January, 2009.

By Luke

October 8, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

My friends, my friends, my friends, my friends, my friends, my friends, my friends, my friends, maverick, maverick, maverick, maverick, maverick, maverick, maverick, maverick, jackass, jackass, jackass, jackass, jackass, jackass, jackass, jackass,

By Leslie

October 8, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

ACORN has received payments of nearly a million dollars from the Barack Obama Campaign in 2008. Apparently the payments were funneled through Citizens Services Inc., and may have been falsely reported to the FEC. The Senator has been working with ACORN since his first days as a Community Organizer in Chicago: �In 1992, Acorn Hired Mr. Obama To Run A Voter Registration Effort. He Later Became A Trainer For The Group, As Well As Its Lawyer In Election Law Cases.� Representing ACORN, Obama And Other Attorneys Sued The State Of Illinois, Forcing It To Implement Federal �Motor Voter� Legislation That Makes It Easier For The Poor And Minorities To Register To Vote.� ACORN Used �In Your Face� Tactics Like Disrupting Hearings, Bursting Into City Council Meetings, And Protesting Mayor�s Homes. ACORN Has Been Accused Of Voter Fraud In 13 StatesSince 2004 And Was Convicted Of Falsifying Signatures In A Voter Registration Drive Last July, Drawing A Fine Of $25,000 In Washington State.� ACORN Has Been Implicated In Similar Schemes In 14 Other States - Including Ohio, Where A Worker Traded Crack Cocaine For Fraudulent Registrations.� ACORN has been a beneficiary of grants from the Chicago-based Woods Fund, which has a history of issuing controversial grants. Ayres and Obama served together on the Fund�s board (and are still listed). [Other grantees during their tenure included PLO employee Rashid Khalidi and the Obamas’ church, Trinity United.] We now have a possible reason why FactCheck seemed to be in Obama�s pocket. Namely, FactCheck�s sugar daddy is a big donor to the anti-Second Amendment folks at the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence. FactCheck supposedly exists to look beyond a politician�s claims. Ironically, in its analysis of NRA materials on Barack Obama, these so-called �FactCheckers� use the election year campaign rhetoric of a presidential candidate and a verbal claim by one of the most zealous gun control supporters in Congress to refute facts compiled by NRA�s research of vote records and review of legislative language. There�s another possible explanation behind FactCheck�s positions. Just last year, FactCheck�s primary funding source, the Annenberg Foundation, also gave $50,000 to the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence for �efforts to reduce gun violence by educating the public and by enacting and enforcing regulations governing the gun industry.� Annenberg made a similar grant for $100,000 in 2005. (source) Regardless of the cause, it�s clear that while FactCheck swoons over a politician�s rhetoric, NRA prefers to look at the more mundane details - like how that politician voted on a bill and what kind of impact that legislation had or may have had on law-abiding gun owners.

By NoObama

October 8, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

Color should not even be brought up. When I said I’m scared of Obama it is not because of his color. I’m afraid of him because of his previous contacts and friends, his muslim background..more so listening to what Obama’s pastor was saying from the pulpit and knowing that Obama sit under that teaching for 20 years. How can you be a Christian and support abortion? I think Obama has a higher power behind him and it sure is not God. Obama will not even honor the pledge to the american flag from what I saw on a video. How can you be a president of the US and not pledge alligence to the flag?

By mlt

October 8, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this

Fred Bull, yes, I did have more money with Clinton in the White House and now I have less just like everyone else. I said he was an adulterer and this is part of his character that I don’t like but he like most of the rest of us have do our jobs well regardless of what we do in our personal lives. I am just responding to all this talk about Barack’s so called “bad” judgement. He is smart and he and the advisors he picks will do a fine job.

By devin

October 8, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

OMG i love this post site. So may confused,angree and other wise radical folks with there own opinions. Its Great. I have a point too. I have heared enough of the terroist talk. Obama has a better understanding of whats going on with this world. yes he may be rich ( now)But he grow up like all of us. With the thoughts of someday making a difference. Mccain did the same. But mccain’s oportunites where more readily for him. Almost a givin from a racal stand point. Obama may not have the experience. But neither did Gov. Clinton. But look how we as americans where. Full of hope for the future and safe. Now with 8 years of the bush administration we are scared to by a new car. For fear of loosing it due to job lose. Afraid to travel wondering if we will caught up in so terrorist plot. Fraid to look out our own doors for fear we will be mugged by a family man that just lost his job and no why to feed his kids. We point the finger to some else everytime you turn around. Instead of looking at ourselves. Just lookig at this blog i’m sure everyone here works and does there share for the economy. But what about those that are working and drain our sociaty and that get the assistance. We need to let someone like Obama give the middle class back there since of pride and respect. And not let big business, wall street, congress etc. Suck the live blood out of all of us. Its been going on for too long. And for a country that was once the riches most powerful country in the world. We need to take care of us first. health care, retirement etc. There is no way that a man or a woman at the age of 65 and up should have to work at mc donalds, walmart etc. To make in there retirement. Its a damn Shame. The greed is overwhelming.

By mlt

October 8, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

Fred Bull, why is it that white people don’t even want to own up about the fact that Barack Obama is has much white as he is black? And why does color matter anyway in this day and age?

By Shir

October 8, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

MLT .. Did you have more money when that adulterous bafoon was in the white house? (YES) .. if not then your the reason the world is going down. NO ONE IS GOING WELL. All this money has to be going somewhere someones getting paid maybe its you !

By Fred Bull

October 8, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

If, and it looks like you will elect “BO”. God Help you, and God help this Country. The white man is not even allowed to say OB’s middle name, but the blacks can call the white’s any and all of the vilest names they want to and nothing is said or done about it. But let a white person call a black person a name and he is taken to court by the fed’s. You just wait till you get “BHO”. I predict (although you will never admit it) within a year you will wish you had never heard of BO

By mlt

October 8, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

Yeah, I did judge Clinton for having sex in the White House. I judge him to have a pretty bad character flaw, and also an adulterer.

By Jim

October 8, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

Working mom: I imagine you haven’t seen Obama supporters defending his “relationships with shady and radical characters” because your claims are so overblown and absurd on their own. Once you figure it out, tell Sarah too.

By Davis

October 8, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

Barry Obama is running on an image that is directly the opposite of what he has been doing for two decades. His escapes from his past have been as remarkable as the great escapes of Houdini. Why much of the public and the media have been so mesmerized by the words and the image of Obama, and so little interested in learning about the factual reality, was perhaps best explained by an official of the Democratic party: �People don�t come to Obama for what he�s done, they come because of what they hope he can be.�

By Obama/Biden '08

October 8, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

Lets just face it folks, McCain is on the ropes. The majority of America is tired of the way the country has been ran. We can expect more personal attacks on Obama to try and scare the uncommitted voters. We are a month away from the election and now all of a sudden we are seeing gas prices going down.(How ironic) I bet McCain/Bush will take credit for it. I wouldn’t be suprised if they suddenly produced Bin Laden.

By Obama/Biden '08

October 8, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

Lets just face it folks, McCain is on the ropes. The majority of America is tired of the way the country has been ran. We can expect more personal attacks on Obama to try and scare the uncommitted voters. We are a month away from the election and now all of a sudden we are seeing gas prices going down.(How ironic) I bet McCain/Bush will take credit for it. I wouldn’t be suprised if they suddenly produced Bin Laden.

By Obama/Biden '08

October 8, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

Lets just face it folks, McCain is on the ropes. The majority of America is tired of the way the country has been ran. We can expect more personal attacks on Obama to try and scare the uncommitted voters. We are a month away from the election and now all of a sudden we are seeing gas prices going down.(How ironic) I bet McCain/Bush will take credit for it. I wouldn’t be suprised if they suddenly produced Bin Laden.

By Obama/Biden '08

October 8, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

Lets just face it folks, McCain is on the ropes. The majority of America is tired of the way the country has been ran. We can expect more personal attacks on Obama to try and scare the uncommitted voters. We are a month away from the election and now all of a sudden we are seeing gas prices going down.(How ironic) I bet McCain/Bush will take credit for it. I wouldn’t be suprised if they suddenly produced Bin Laden.

By FAIRANDBALANCED

October 8, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

AMEN! to workingmom and noregrets! I agree completelty! But on another point, Why is the media NOT reminding us the the democratic congress has put us in this financial state of crisis??????? all they ever want to do is blame Bush, when its the democratic house that has had control over the past few years!

By Obama/Biden '08

October 8, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Lets just face it folks, McCain is on the ropes. The majority of America is tired of the way the country has been ran. We can expect more personal attacks on Obama to try and scare the uncommitted voters. We are a month away from the election and now all of a sudden we are seeing gas prices going down.(How ironic) I bet McCain/Bush will take credit for it. I wouldn’t be suprised if they suddenly produced Bin Laden.

By Obama/Biden '08

October 8, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

Lets just face it folks, McCain is on the ropes. The majority of America is tired of the way the country has been ran. We can expect more personal attacks on Obama to try and scare the uncommitted voters. We are a month away from the election and now all of a sudden we are seeing gas prices going down.(How ironic) I bet McCain/Bush will take credit for it. I wouldn’t be suprised if they suddenly produced Bin Laden.

By Obama/Biden '08

October 8, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

Lets just face it folks, McCain is on the ropes. The majority of America is tired of the way the country has been ran. We can expect more personal attacks on Obama to try and scare the uncommitted voters. We are a month away from the election and now all of a sudden we are seeing gas prices going down.(How ironic) I bet McCain/Bush will take credit for it. I wouldn’t be suprised if they suddenly produced Bin Laden.

By Obama/Biden '08

October 8, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

Lets just face it folks, McCain is on the ropes. The majority of America is tired of the way the country has been ran. We can expect more personal attacks on Obama to try and scare the uncommitted voters. We are a month away from the election and now all of a sudden we are seeing gas prices going down.(How ironic) I bet McCain/Bush will take credit for it. I wouldn’t be suprised if they suddenly produced Bin Laden.

By Jim

October 8, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

Workingmom, if you actually research it, you’ll find that these associations you’re talking about don’t amount to a hill of beans. All this nonsense about Ayers happened when Obama was eight years old. Ayers is now a college professor and he and Obama served on a committee together. Big Deal. I’m afraid Workingmom, you’re falling for the Republican propaganda which is designed to distract and smear. BTW, wasn’t Sarah Palin’s HUSBAND,a member of the radical Alaska Independence Party?

By Obama/Biden '08

October 8, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

Lets just face it folks, McCain is on the ropes. The majority of America is tired of the way the country has been ran. We can expect more personal attacks on Obama to try and scare the uncommitted voters. We are a month away from the election and now all of a sudden we are seeing gas prices going down.(How ironic) I bet McCain/Bush will take credit for it. I wouldn’t be suprised if they suddenly produced Bin Laden.

By WorkingMom

October 8, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

Pat, McCain was cleared of any wrong doing in the Keating 5 incident. Do your homework please! Ayres is respected by whom? It doesn’t change the fact that he was part of the Weather Underground, a known anit-American terrorist group! Yes, McCain may have been wrong for leaving his wife. But you don’t know the circumstances surrounding any of that so don’t judge. Did you judge Bill Clinton for having sex with another woman in the White House while he was President? How low can you go? And to “Working Mom - Take your own advice” - I have done my homework. If you’re going to make a statement like that, please be specific so we can all see how intelligent you are!

By LT from the 937

October 8, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

here we go again. it irks me when people are so small-minded to where they are against a person just because their name is different, or the color of his skin. there are some people who don’t like sen.obama based on his color (he’s bi-racial any ways), or his name (barack hussein), and some idiot claimed he is a muslim. for starters his mother is caucasion, and he attended an islam school, (step-father was a muslim).what’s the problem if he was a muslim. society has this great post 9-11 fear of muslims. now all of a sudden, there is this elevated fear of muslims. if certain people want to classify muslim’s as terrorist, then we might as well say that: all blacks are trouble makers(untrue), every asian knows some type of martial arts(untrue), every latin person is illegal & lazy (untrue), and every white is racist/prejudice(untrue). do you see where i’m going with this. we need to stop being narrow minded, and look at the big picture. sen. obama is an intelligent, well articulate man. who just happens to be bi-racial. we cannot fault him for who he is, or his previous association with certain people. alot of pople make it seem as though obama was going to make rev. wright his running mate or ayers his sec. of defense. i could care less with what was said by rev. wright. that doesn’t mean i support what he said, but we seem to forget about freedom of speech when certain things are said. the important thing is getting our country in order, and back to it’s status of respectability. i respect what john mccain has done for this country,and how he carries himself at times, but it is time to go in a new direction. sen. obama and sen. biden are a fresh approach to fixing america’s economic/national security woes. but no matter who get’s into office, there are alot of wounds that need to be mended, and it is going to take time, hard work, and patience. the last two debates have shown that obama is clearly more polished, confident, and prepared to take the role of commander and chief. mccain is a worthy candidate, but i feel that he is not quite there. i’m not supporting/voting for obama because i am a black man, and he has black roots. but i am voting for him because it is refreshing to see someone who can relate to all americans that have struggled in certain aspects of life. need it be being raised by a single mother, difficulty paying for higher learning, or simple everyday issues. he knows what it’s like to be on the outside looking in, like many americans. obama/biden for the white house!

By Glus

October 8, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

Jeremiah Wright, Father Michael Pfleger, William Ayers, and Antoin Rezko are not just people who happened to be at the same place at the same time as Barack Obama. They are people with whom he chose to ally himself for years, and with some of whom some serious money changed hands. Some gave political support, and some gave financial support, to Obama�s election campaigns, and Obama in turn contributed either his own money or the taxpayers� money to some of them. That is a familiar political alliance � but an alliance is not just an �association� from being at the same place at the same time.

By mlt

October 8, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

I wonder what McCain’s first wife really thinks about his character, since he left her after she was injured and left with horrible scars from a automobile accident, for the younger and then prettier Cindy.

By Jim

October 8, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

If McCain is elected, I dread a future scenario where he is debating a national leader — ally or adversary — in a crisis situation, and he refers to him as “That one.” My guess is he’ll quickly be sitting alone in the room with his foot in his mouth.

By PAt

October 8, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

Ayers is a respected Professor at top university. He and Obama are not boozing buddies. Keating 5 does that ring a bell?? McCain is a liar and crook. Where in the bible does it say that you can leave your dying wife and go out with another woman? McCain?

By No regrets

October 8, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

NObama worshippers, who are you going to blame when you get your NObama as Pres, then nothing gets better? The Dumocrats have been in control of the House and Senate for 2 years and things have gotten worse. That’s right, it will still be Pres Bush’s fault. You idiots can’t think beyond what you had for breakfast this morning.

By WorkingMom

October 8, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

It’s amazing to me that I have posted at least 6 messages on a few different blogs mentioning Obama’s relationships with very shady and radical characters, but not one Obama supporter has EVER tried to defend that. Are you really willing to vote for someone who associates himself with people who HATE America?????? Do we all really dislike our country that much? Use your heads!

By Working Mom - Take Your Own Advice

October 8, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

Please do your homework before voting and posting your rhetoric!

By Glus

October 8, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

unfortunately, Liars, the mainstream media will bury that issue just as they have with Barry’s “asscoiations” They want us to believe that this election is already over.

By Jim

October 8, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

I wonder if Sarah Palin is going take Rick Davis, the McCain campaign manager, with her when she goes to Wilmington Thursday? Maybe he can explain how he lobbied McCain for the DHL takeover of Airborne and the subsequent loss of 8,000 jobs.

By NoObama

October 8, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

go figure..obama has the highest percentage on winning last nights debate….I would not expect any different from the City of Dayton. Obama scares me! I’m not excited about either candidate but I sure would not vote for Obama

By Jim

October 8, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

Workingmom, The college educated are overwhelmingly supporting Obama. Secondly, his tax cuts are for 95% of Tax Payers, not all Americans. Pay attention. Let�s not forget that McCain wanted to privatize Social Security. Where would our seniors be right now is McCain had succeeded and Social Security had been placed with Wall Street? McCain�s policies always favor big business and rarely help the working class. He�s out of touch with what families are going through in this country.

By liars

October 8, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

glus,its no news to me that either of these candidates are going to grant amnesty to 20-30 million illegals…but no one seems to care about the devastating affect this is going to have on our country,i guess the main stream media forgot to tell American voters its an issue…just look at california its the home of more illegal immigrants then anywhere else in the country and it has bankrupted the state.and also banks giving mortgages to 5 million illegals is part responsible for our current financial troubles…will the sheeple of America ever wake up and realize the wool is being pulled over our eyes?

By WorkingMom

October 8, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

What we all need to ask ourselves is, do we want the U.S. to be a Socialism, because that is where we are headed if Obama becomes President. He is by far the most radical person to run for President in my lifetime! Just look at his past associations. Associations with terrorist Bill Ayers, and the Rev. Wright who has extremely radical views such as accusing the U.S. government of created HIV to get rid of African Americans. These associations he had were not by mistake. He was a member of Rev. Wright�s church for over 20 years and only disassociated himself with Wright when he knew it would hurt him in this election. Also the 3 years he worked for and defended ACORN who has been convicted of voter fraud and was very instrumental in bullying banks into giving mortgages to unqualified people by going to bank manager�s houses and picketing and strong arming, because these unqualified people are �entitled to affordable housing�. What�s wrong with renting? Is that not affordable housing? Our constitution never said anyone was entitled to buy a house! Let�s all use our common sense when deciding who to vote for. Take the time to do the research!!! Obama wants to appeal to the uneducated because he knows they won�t take the time to look at his past. Don�t be one of those uneducated people. I, for one, don�t want to live in a country that is a Socialism. That is not what this country was meant to be. Another point of common sense. How can Obama give 95% of Americans a tax cut and still fund all of his programs? First of all, only 60% of Americans pay taxes, therefore he is going to send a check, your money, to a whole bunch of people who don’t work and pay taxes. Second of all, he is going to raise taxes on all of the business owners who give us our jobs to fund his entitlement programs. Therefore, more people are going to lose jobs. All you have to do is look at the states that have the best economies. They are states that either have no income tax or very low income tax. Please do your homework before voting!

By Richard

October 8, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

The Palin Republican Bund Party is scouting Ohio for German beer halls for future rallies. It also seeks area law enforcement agencies that wear either black uniforms or at least brown shirts who have the biggest and ugliest brutes as chiefs in order to introduce sweet Sarah. Bring any thug friends along as well as any miserable vietnam vets who still want to fight that war. Armbands will be provided.

By Jim

October 8, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

McCain has shown his judgment to be impaired by selecting Sarah Palin as his running mate. Palin is now on the Campaign trail inciting mob like behavior with her lies and smear tactics. It�s disgraceful and American�s should unequivocally reject this type of campaign defamation.

By make up your minds

October 8, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

ecartman - you didn’t answer the question. Which bogeyman do you believe in, the radical black theology bogeyman, or the muslim bogeyman?

By Jim

October 8, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

Here�s a direct quote from McCain: �Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation�. It�s obvious he wants to drive health care into the same ditch as our economy by more and more deregulation.

By FAIRANDBALANCED

October 8, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

Obama is so out of touch with reality, what “small business” makes UNDER 200k a year????someone working from their home???????? If a small business has one or more employees, I am willing to bet they are making over 200k a year, so that means EVERY business in teh US will face tax hikes, which means, no pay raises, no new hires, possible lay offs. while we just keep giving to the welfare hogs.I am a sick to death of working my butt off while so many sit on thiers! They should be drug tested to recieve a check just like we do to keep or get a job.Welfare should be like unemployment, a temporary fix…………..give free daycare to those with low paying jobs……………..give our tax dollars to the lederly who have worked hard all their lives….not to generations of welfare hogs!

By KC

October 8, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

Obama is correct that health care is a RIGHT, as stated in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 25, Section 1: “Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.” As someone who has lived in a country with universal health care, I see that it raises general standard of living. And as someone who teaches college courses on human rights, I’m glad to see a candidate taking them seriously, as well as being willing to redress that absolute shredding of the US Constitution by the Bush Administration.

By Ecartman

October 8, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

Re: make up your minds- Guilt by association isn’t the issue. The issue is bad judgment, and that he lied about those decisions. He only broke ties with a known terrorist and a hate America preacher when his candidacy depended on it.

By Where is the Love? :)

October 8, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

Elephant stated: Also trying to have everything covered with preexisting condition clause is a horrible idea. Insurance cost would soar.” I think not giving someone health insurance because they have a preexisting condition is the horrible idea. It allows insurance companies to pick and choose who they insure to maximize profits. Has any health insurance company reported a loss in the last few years? Elephant you should be ashamed of the comments you posted.

By economic reality

October 8, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

Joe12Pack - if you really believe that the our current economic mess was created in less than a year, then you demonstrate how ignorant you are of how economics works. It takes a long time for changes in policy to show up in the economy. I’ll even bet that you believe the Democrats have been a “do nothing” Congress. So how did the “do nothing” Congress create this mess? And why were they “do nothing?” Well, that would be from a small number of Republican senators who were able to tie up any meaningful reforms with threats of a filibuster (do you know what that is?); and a Republican president who had the ability to kill any legislation that did happen to be supported by 60 senators, but not the 66 needed to override a veto. Maybe you should go back to school and learn a little bit more about government and economics before you start running your mouth.

By Davis

October 8, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism,’ they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened. …lemmings

By make up your minds

October 8, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

All of you who believe in guilt by association - Is Obama under the influence of Rev. Wright, or is he a Muslim? He can’t be both, so make up your mind which bogeyman you believe in.

By Glus

October 8, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

Hey Liars, I have news for you. No matter who gets elected, you can welcome 15 to 20 million “New” citizens into our country. Neither candidate is going to do anything other than give them all some sort of amnesty. Neither candidate has the courage to enforce the laws that are already on the books and would cause a reverse migration without any new laws and no fence!

By R. Alward

October 8, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

It amazes me that poeple will vote on a person just becuase he has a smooth tongue. Does not matter what their record is or what they want to do with our country will basicly take us to a socialist govenment. Does any one remember the constitution? Obama has never voted for a tax decrease for anyone. He has voted for every tax increase that he had a chance at. When rich people keep their own money and buy all their expensive toys,who builds those toys? The middle class. When they stop buying the middle class lose jobs. Also remember President Bush already gave every family $1200 check this year.

By randy

October 8, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

One question asked of the two canddiates last night said it all. Is healthcare a responsibility or a right? The answer to that question by both shows their true understanding of what it means to �govern� and what the purpose of government is. Obama failed the test. McCain answered correctly - it is government�s RESPONSIBILITY to ensure Americans have access to healthcare. Obama answered it is our RIGHT. He�s obviously forgot that our RIGHTS are spelled out in the US constitution. While a statement in the pre-amble says ��.promote our general welfare��. that does not say government must provide healthcare. As the wealthiest (or once wealthiest) nation in the world we are seeing that our nation�s solvency is already over-extended. Government is not the answer to everything. People are angrry about the trouble it has already caused. How can anyone support a candidate who wants even more government. Obama�s only thought is to have government and more government help him achieve his programs. McCain�s first thoughts are to have competition and the markets help him achieve his programs.

By Davis

October 8, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

Obama/Biden, Obama only denounces his ties when it is needed to further his political career. I would not have sat in Rev. Wright�s church for 1000 Sundays, or launched my political career in the living room of Bill Ayers an unrepentant terrorist or worked as a �community organizer� for a radical group such as ACORN who is now under investigation by the feds. I have never �associated� with anyone like that and would never sit in church and listen to a message of hate for 20 years. I my book his character is flawed.

By liars

October 8, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

why dont real issues ever come up in these debates…if either of these 2 really cared about Americans having jobs why would they be so intent on legalizing 20-30 million illegal immigrants? plus adding a few million legal immigrants a year to take our jobs.why doesnt that ever get asked of them ?

By Ecartman

October 8, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

No brainer is right. Anyone who uses their brain can see BO’s positions for what they are-socialist. Do you REALLY think the gov’t will do a good job with your health care? I know the talking point is that you can stay with your plan if you want, but how many employers will keep the headache? You will be handed off to the gov’t plan. Ask people in Canada how that’s working out for them. His economic policy is pure class warfare drivel. Tax the corporations and they raise prices, then the poor pay even more. I think you need a napkin, you got some of that crap sandwich on your chin.

By Obama/Biden '08

October 8, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

Davis, how do you know he shares thier beliefs? Have you had a personal conversation with him? The man has openly denounced the comments and actions of those you listed. As for Bill Ayers, Obama was a child when he carried out his acts. Ayers is now a professor at an University in Chicago do you have a problem with the whole faculty at that University? Personally, I’ve sat in Church many of Sundays and didn’t agree with what the Pastor was saying. Better yet growing up did you agree with everything your parents tried to teach you?

By Joe 12pack

October 8, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

George w’s economy was fine the first 7yrs with a republican congress. Last year the democrats took over and it hasn’t even taken a complete year for them to screw it up. They expedited this process to make believe it was GW and the republicans to get “Obamabinladen” into the whitehouse. If you think the economy is bad now put Obama and his tax increase in with this demo congress and we are all in trouble.

By elephant ears

October 8, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

that should be without a preexisting condition clause

By Obama/Biden '08

October 8, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

Davis, how do you know he shares thier beliefs? Have you had a personal conversation with him? The man has openly denounced the comments and actions of those you listed. As for Bill Ayers, Obama was a child when he carried out his acts. Ayers is now a professor at an University in Chicago do you have a problem with the whole faculty at that University? Personally, I’ve sat in Church many of Sundays and didn’t agree with what the Pastor was saying. Better yet growing up did you agree with everything your parents tried to teach you?

By elephant ears

October 8, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

Obama’s Healthcare policy is horrible. Universal healthcare would only make things worse and more expensive. Also trying to have everything covered with preexisting condition clause is a horrible idea. Insurance cost would soar. I work in insurance take it from me you don’t want Obama’s plan for healthcare.

By Nora

October 8, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

Why doesnt anyone address the fact we are in war with the muslems and now we want to elect one president! They cant beat us in war so we give our country to one

By Tom

October 8, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

peacemom, your comment didn’t make any sense at all. Sort of like John McCain’s solution to fix social security. He basically said, “I know how to do it. It’s easy. We’ll do it,” but didn’t give any specifics whatsoever. The campaign he’s running is disgusting. The repetition of insignificant wingnut talking points is all people have to argue against Obama. He’s clearly the more intelligent, calm, and organized of the two. Of course no candidate is perfect, but Obama is the better choice on the economy, on healthcare, on foreign policy, on domestic policy, on women’s rights… it’s a no-brainer.

By Davis

October 8, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

hey Obama/Biden, The trouble with Obamas associations are that HE shares their views and beliefs. This might seem trivial to you, but it is extremely troubling to me and other Americans that don’t share your views. I can’t help but think that the racist Rev. Wright has had an influence on Barry�s views of the world and I do not share them.

By Preston

October 8, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

According to the State Business Tax Climate Index, Ohio ranks among the least desirable states to live, work, or start/operate a business � economically speaking. I would wager tax rates are the main factor in population decline over the years as well. From the 2008-2009 index Ohio ranked in the following positions: individual income tax - ranks 47 out of 50, sales Tax - ranks 37 out of 50, property tax ranks - 44 out of 50 and overall tax climate - is 47 out of 50. The economy is the number issue facing us in the immediate future. The answer is not to elect a candidate great whose idea to help the economy is to raise taxes on anyone � especially on those who create jobs. It�s just nonsensical

By socrates

October 8, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

Both are simply unqualified to lead. I’d take another 4 yrs of W or even Bill Clinton, after watching this debate. Barry’s plan for raising taxes will kill the economy and put us on the absyss of a depresion. I love McCain and find him honorable, but he can’t speak in an eloquent senetence. He was choppy all night. Obama- name him as Ambassador to the UN. McCain- name him Gates replacement as Secretary of Defense. Both are simply unqualified. I was disappointed. McCain wants to consider Meg Whitman as Commerce Secretary? Give me a break. Not certain worth even voting. Two bad candidates ill-equipped. How about a mulligan? I’ll take Romney and you take HRC. Look out for 4 years of lack of leadership, as neither inspires.

By Obama/Biden '08

October 8, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

Hey Davis, if someone looked into your past at all the people you associated with what would they find? You can not hold anyone responsible for the actions and/or beliefs of someone they know. If you have know proof that the person believes or done anything let it go. This is the only point they want to aruge; and it is WEAK!!!!

By Ecartman

October 8, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

The seniors to whom you refer were not eligible to participate in Bush’s SS plan. No one under 55 was eligible, and people under 55 were gradually included. This is just one of Barry’s scare tactics to convince seasoned citizens that the Republicans want to take their SS away. Once again you were fed a crap sandwich. CHECK THE FACTS PEOPLE! BO IS A LIAR AND A SOCIALIST!

By Jayne

October 8, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

Seniors would not be allowed to privatize their SS.

By gjg

October 8, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

Obama was smart, clear, presidential. McCain was old. Sometimes he couldn’t even speak in a coherent sentence. I seriously think he may be in early stages of dementia.

By Jim

October 8, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

Let�s not forget that McCain wanted to privatize Social Security. Where would our seniors be right now is McCain had succeeded and Social Security had been placed with Wall Street? McCain�s policies always favor big business and rarely help the working class. He�s out of touch with what families are going through in this country.

By Davis

October 8, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

McCain needed to take off the gloves last night. He did not. He continues to disappoint and time grows short. Slick Barry was oh so slippery and smooth in his delivery last night. He has drastically improved his delivery. Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko, Rev. Wright, Louis Farrakhan, Father Flagler, Khalid Al-Mansour, ACORN etc mean nothing to the main stream Medias �education� of the American people. They will continue to burry these stories even though Barry has a long history of questionable associations and poor judgments and radical beliefs. I have at this late date in the game; STILL NOT heard an adequate explanation of any of them. I see a slick talker with a scary background that in my mind has not been explored. He could sell people a turd and they would gobble it up and love it. �.Lemmings

By Obama/Biden '08

October 8, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

McCain was very defensive and argumenative last night. McCain knows that the election is slipping away from him so he is in panic mode. The McCain campaign/supporters are blind to facts. McCain made several attempts last night to try and insult Obama which I found to be very unprofessional. McCain appeared to be very frustrated. Also I found to comments he made to be very disrespectful: 1. Calling Obama “That One” 2. When answering the black male audience members question about the Bail Out plan he told him that he probably had never heard of Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac before all of this. I’m not saying he said it on purpose but is this how he really feels.

By JD

October 8, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

To justme52-no.

By Fed Up

October 8, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

We can’t afford another 4 years of this cr@p! I repeat…WE CAN’T AFFORD ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF THIS CR@P! Don’t fall for McVain and ImPalin’s “we’re just like the average joe - we want to help you cr@p” McCain needs to stop playing the “wounded soldier card” - I’m not saying I don’t appreciate the sacrifice he made for our country…that’s very commendable - BUT - we can’t afford awarding PITY votes during this time of crisis. AND…Palin - she’s BUSH with a skirt. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!! Don’t fall for their simple minded rhetoric! WE MUST HAVE CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Fed Up

October 8, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

We can’t afford another 4 years of this cr@p! I repeat…WE CAN’T AFFORD ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF THIS CR@P! Don’t fall for McVain and ImPalin’s “we’re just like the average joe - we want to help you cr@p” McCain needs to stop playing the “wounded soldier card” - I’m not saying I don’t appreciate the sacrifice he made for our country…that’s very commendable - BUT - we can’t afford awarding PITY votes during this time of crisis. AND…Palin - she’s BUSH with a skirt. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!! Don’t fall for their simple minded rhetoric! WE MUST HAVE CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Fed Up

October 8, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

We can’t afford another 4 years of this cr@p! I repeat…WE CAN’T AFFORD ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF THIS CR@P! Don’t fall for McVain and ImPalin’s “we’re just like the average joe - we want to help you cr@p” McCain needs to stop playing the “wounded soldier card” - I’m not saying I don’t appreciate the sacrifice he made for our country…that’s very commendable - BUT - we can’t afford awarding PITY votes during this time of crisis. AND…Palin - she’s BUSH with a skirt. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!! Don’t fall for their simple minded rhetoric! WE MUST HAVE CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Fed Up

October 8, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

We can’t afford another 4 years of this cr@p! I repeat…WE CAN’T AFFORD ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF THIS CR@P! Don’t fall for McVain and ImPalin’s “we’re just like the average joe - we want to help you cr@p” McCain needs to stop playing the “wounded soldier card” - I’m not saying I don’t appreciate the sacrifice he made for our country…that’s very commendable - BUT - we can’t afford awarding PITY votes during this time of crisis. AND…Palin - she’s BUSH with a skirt. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!! Don’t fall for their simple minded rhetoric! WE MUST HAVE CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Fed Up

October 8, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

We can’t afford another 4 years of this cr@p! I repeat…WE CAN’T AFFORD ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF THIS CR@P! Don’t fall for McVain and ImPalin’s “we’re just like the average joe - we want to help you cr@p” McCain needs to stop playing the “wounded soldier card” - I’m not saying I don’t appreciate the sacrifice he made for our country…that’s very commendable - BUT - we can’t afford awarding PITY votes during this time of crisis. AND…Palin - she’s BUSH with a skirt. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!! Don’t fall for their simple minded rhetoric! WE MUST HAVE CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Fed Up

October 8, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

We can’t afford another 4 years of this cr@p! I repeat…WE CAN’T AFFORD ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF THIS CR@P! Don’t fall for McVain and ImPalin’s “we’re just like the average joe - we want to help you cr@p” McCain needs to stop playing the “wounded soldier card” - I’m not saying I don’t appreciate the sacrifice he made for our country…that’s very commendable - BUT - we can’t afford awarding PITY votes during this time of crisis. AND…Palin - she’s BUSH with a skirt. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!! Don’t fall for their simple minded rhetoric! WE MUST HAVE CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Fed Up

October 8, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

We can’t afford another 4 years of this cr@p! I repeat…WE CAN’T AFFORD ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF THIS CR@P! Don’t fall for McVain and ImPalin’s “we’re just like the average joe - we want to help you cr@p” McCain needs to stop playing the “wounded soldier card” - I’m not saying I don’t appreciate the sacrifice he made for our country…that’s very commendable - BUT - we can’t afford awarding PITY votes during this time of crisis. AND…Palin - she’s BUSH with a skirt. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!! Don’t fall for their simple minded rhetoric! WE MUST HAVE CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Fed Up

October 8, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

We can’t afford another 4 years of this cr@p! I repeat…WE CAN’T AFFORD ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF THIS CR@P! Don’t fall for McVain and ImPalin’s “we’re just like the average joe - we want to help you cr@p” McCain needs to stop playing the “wounded soldier card” - I’m not saying I don’t appreciate the sacrifice he made for our country…that’s very commendable - BUT - we can’t afford awarding PITY votes during this time of crisis. AND…Palin - she’s BUSH with a skirt. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!! Don’t fall for their simple minded rhetoric! WE MUST HAVE CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Fed Up

October 8, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

We can’t afford another 4 years of this cr@p! I repeat…WE CAN’T AFFORD ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF THIS CR@P! Don’t fall for McVain and ImPalin’s “we’re just like the average joe - we want to help you cr@p” McCain needs to stop playing the “wounded soldier card” - I’m not saying I don’t appreciate the sacrifice he made for our country…that’s very commendable - BUT - we can’t afford awarding PITY votes during this time of crisis. AND…Palin - she’s BUSH with a skirt. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!! Don’t fall for their simple minded rhetoric! WE MUST HAVE CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Fed Up

October 8, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

We can’t afford another 4 years of this cr@p! I repeat…WE CAN’T AFFORD ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF THIS CR@P! Don’t fall for McVain and ImPalin’s “we’re just like the average joe - we want to help you cr@p” McCain needs to stop playing the “wounded soldier card” - I’m not saying I don’t appreciate the sacrifice he made for our country…that’s very commendable - BUT - we can’t afford awarding PITY votes during this time of crisis. AND…Palin - she’s BUSH with a skirt. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!! Don’t fall for their simple minded rhetoric! WE MUST HAVE CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Fed Up

October 8, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

We can’t afford another 4 years of this cr@p! I repeat…WE CAN’T AFFORD ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF THIS CR@P! Don’t fall for McVain and ImPalin’s “we’re just like the average joe - we want to help you cr@p” McCain needs to stop playing the “wounded soldier card” - I’m not saying I don’t appreciate the sacrifice he made for our country…that’s very commendable - BUT - we can’t afford awarding PITY votes during this time of crisis. AND…Palin - she’s BUSH with a skirt. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!! Don’t fall for their simple minded rhetoric! WE MUST HAVE CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Fed Up

October 8, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

We can’t afford another 4 years of this cr@p! I repeat…WE CAN’T AFFORD ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF THIS CR@P! Don’t fall for McVain and ImPalin’s “we’re just like the average joe - we want to help you cr@p” McCain needs to stop playing the “wounded soldier card” - I’m not saying I don’t appreciate the sacrifice he made for our country…that’s very commendable - BUT - we can’t afford awarding PITY votes during this time of crisis. AND…Palin - she’s BUSH with a skirt. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!! Don’t fall for their simple minded rhetoric! WE MUST HAVE CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Fed Up

October 8, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

We can’t afford another 4 years of this cr@p! I repeat…WE CAN’T AFFORD ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF THIS CR@P! Don’t fall for McVain and ImPalin’s “we’re just like the average joe - we want to help you cr@p” McCain needs to stop playing the “wounded soldier card” - I’m not saying I don’t appreciate the sacrifice he made for our country…that’s very commendable - BUT - we can’t afford awarding PITY votes during this time of crisis. AND…Palin - she’s BUSH with a skirt. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!! Don’t fall for their simple minded rhetoric! WE MUST HAVE CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By PEACEMOM62

October 8, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

“NObama !” NO MORE TAXES !!! How can Obama give 95% of Americans a tax cut WHEN ONLY 40% of Americans DO NOT PAY TAXES”??????????????…hmmm shows you how ignorant Obama “fans” are! It’s the PRESIDENCY : “NOT” American Idol”!!protect our country, our $$$ and FREEDOMS! VOTE FOR McCAIN !!

By Clint

October 8, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

@ Reggie98ud, again my point about doing some research and not just repeating McCain talking points (which have been shown to be false time and time again). The person you are trying to tie to Obama is Franklin Raines. By his own omission, Mr Raines has said “I am not an advisor to Barack Obama, nor have I provided his campaign with advice on housing or economic matters”. However, McCain has chosen Rick Davis (a lobbyist for Fannie and Freddie) to run his campaign. Please either make an educated, informed post or go back to sleep.

By It's Me

October 8, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

Obama is the man. The right man for the job between the two candidates.I feel that he will do a better job as president.

By Jim

October 8, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

McCain has shown his judgment to be impaired by selecting Sarah Palin as his running mate. Palin is now on the Campaign trail inciting mob like behavior with her lies and smear tactics. It�s disgraceful and American�s should unequivocally reject this type of campaign defamation.

By reggie98ud

October 8, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

McCain hit it on the head when he said nailing down BO’s policies was like nailing Jell-O to the wall… I’m sure if we wait long enough, there will be another one. McCain had an opportunity to really hit Nobama with all of Barry’s left-wing radical buddies. I am a little upset that the Dayton Daily Democrat neglected to mention BO’s economic advisors that were the beneficiaries of golden parachutes when they drove Fanni and Freddi down the drain. They didn’t miss the chance to try to tie McCain to the banks, even if it was a thin argument. McCain spoke the truth, therefore he won. Nobama wouldn’t know the truth if it jumped up and bit him in the a$$.

By Clint

October 8, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

@ Former Ohioan… my point exactly about doing some f’ing research before posting your delusional viewpoints. Also, I know you were excited about letting people know your borderline insane position, but you only need to hit the ‘Post your comment’ button once.

By nursecilla

October 8, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

Barry..you are an idiot. The reason alot of his contributions are under $200 is because Americans are donating to his campain and Anericans are in a financial crisis. But we are finding a way to give to the cause, so hoepfully the next 4 years get better than the last 8 years we have had. Saying he has terrorists ties is GETTING OLD. GIVE IT UP! What do you think..he is going to get in and turn everyone muslim? That is just ignorance at it’s best!

By Jim

October 8, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

Let’s not forget that McCain wanted to privatize Social Security. Where would our seniors be right now is McCain had succeeded and Social Security had been placed with Wall Street? McCain’s policies always favor big business and rarely help the working class. He’s out of touch with what families are going through in this country.

By reggie98ud

October 8, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

McCain hit it on the head when he said nailing down BO’s policies was like nailing Jell-O to the wall… I’m sure if we wait long enough, there will be another one. McCain had an opportunity to really hit Nobama with all of Barry’s left-wing radical buddies. I am a little upset that the Dayton Daily Democrat neglected to mention BO’s economic advisors that were the beneficiaries of golden parachutes when they drove Fanni and Freddi down the drain. They didn’t miss the chance to try to tie McCain to the banks, even if it was a thin argument. McCain spoke the truth, therefore he won. Nobama wouldn’t know the truth if it jumped up and bit him in the a$$.

By omg

October 8, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

This wasn’t worth turning on the t.v. for. Both candidates are so busy name calling, neither are giving the voters the information needed to make an informed decision. We want to hear what they WILL do for this country, NOT what the other won’t do or hasn’t done or can’t do. They both need to take the high road. If they want to BE the President of the United States, they need to show the voters they can ACT like the President of the United States.

By Former Ohioan

October 8, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

How many terrorists and shady characters does Obama need to surround himself with? He is a true definition of “corrupt” and he says what he thinks you want to hear and God Help us all if he is elected. YOu thought 9-11 was bad??? He is CLUELESS and WILL NOT KEEP US SAFE!!! Wake up OHIO!!!!!! Protect your children and grandchildren, Vote Mccain…..

By Former Ohioan

October 8, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

How many terrorists and shady characters does Obama need to surround himself with? He is a true definition of “corrupt” and he says what he thinks you want to hear and God Help us all if he is elected. YOu thought 9-11 was bad??? He is CLUELESS and WILL NOT KEEP US SAFE!!! Wake up OHIO!!!!!! Protect your children and grandchildren, Vote Mccain…..

By Former Ohioan

October 8, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

How many terrorists and shady characters does Obama need to surround himself with? He is a true definition of “corrupt” and he says what he thinks you want to hear and God Help us all if he is elected. YOu thought 9-11 was bad??? He is CLUELESS and WILL NOT KEEP US SAFE!!! Wake up OHIO!!!!!! Protect your children and grandchildren, Vote Mccain…..

By Jim

October 8, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

Here’s a direct quote from McCain: “Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation”. It’s obvious he wants to drive health care into the same ditch as our economy by more and more deregulation.

By Tom

October 8, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

Leslie, I bet you have a nice healthcare plan through your employer. Health care is a right, and it is the responsibility of the government to help provide it in cases where people cannot afford it on their own. Better health care helps all of society, and McCain’s plan would be terrible. And this Ayres/Wright garbage is getting old. Give it up, wingnuts!

By MCCAIN's OLD MOMMA!

October 8, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

OHIO IS FOR OBAMA!!!

By MCCAIN's OLD MOMMA!

October 8, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

OHIO IS FOR OBAMA!!!

By MCCAIN's OLD MOMMA!

October 8, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

OHIO IS FOR OBAMA!!!

By MCCAIN's OLD MOMMA!

October 8, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

OHIO IS FOR OBAMA!!!

By recovering republican

October 8, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this

McCain is good and honorable old guy who just doesn’t know what to do. We should honor his service and ask his advice but he just isn’t up for this job. last night it was clear, Barack is the right man to take on the complex problems we face.

By Jim

October 8, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

McCain has shown his judgment to be impaired by selecting Sarah Palin as his running mate. Palin is now on the Campaign trail inciting mob like behavior with her lies and smear tactics. It’s disgraceful and American’s should unequivocally reject this type of campaign defamation.

By Clint

October 8, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

Three things, 1) Neither candidate can fix things immediately. Things are too far broken. In this “I want it all, I want it now society” I am afraid that whoever gets elected will fall far short of the peoples expectations (especially the losing sides). 2) Please do some research before posting on the internet. I know, I know… it is work. 3) Anyone can see that Obama won, unless you are a right-wing fanatic.

By Leslie

October 8, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

One question asked of the two canddiates last night said it all. Is healthcare a responsibility or a right? The answer to that question by both shows their true understanding of what it means to ‘govern’ and what the purpose of government is. Obama failed the test. McCain answered correctly - it is government’s RESPONSIBILITY to ensure Americans have access to healthcare. Obama answered it is our RIGHT. He’s obviously forgot that our RIGHTS are spelled out in the US constitution. While a statement in the pre-amble says “….promote our general welfare”…. that does not say government must provide healthcare. As the wealthiest (or once wealthiest) nation in the world we are seeing that our nation’s solvency is already over-extended. Government is not the answer to everything. People are angrry about the trouble it has already caused. How can anyone support a candidate who wants even more government. Obama’s only thought is to have government and more government help him achieve his programs. McCain’s first thoughts are to have competition and the markets help him achieve his programs.

By John Walker

October 8, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

Does anyone else feel uneasy constantly being referred to as “my friends” by Senator McCain? I don’t know. I just feel like he is going to try to sell me some snake oil or something - like a used car salesman (no offense meant to car salesmen). It really makes me uncomfortable…

By John Walker

October 8, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this

Does anyone else feel uneasy constantly being referred to as “my friends” by Senator McCain? I don’t know. I just feel like he is going to try to sell me some snake oil or something - like a used car salesman (no offense meant to car salesmen). It really makes me uncomfortable…

By nomccain or failin pailin

October 8, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

McCain could barely walk and he really wanted to use the N word instead of saying other words, he needs to retire and go home and enjoy the rest of his life, as far as failin palin, she needs to stay in Alaska and raise her children and continue being in charge of her little bitty town that she can control and continue being a hockey mom., those two are jokes and anyone that votes for them, need to wake up and smell the coffee because with those two in office—we all better try to leave the US because I think they will be worse than GBUSH….

By nomccain or failin pailin

October 8, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

McCain could barely walk and he really wanted to use the N word instead of saying other words, he needs to retire and go home and enjoy the rest of his life, as far as failin palin, she needs to stay in Alaska and raise her children and continue being in charge of her little bitty town that she can control and continue being a hockey mom., those two are jokes and anyone that votes for them, need to wake up and smell the coffee because with those two in office—we all better try to leave the US because I think they will be worse than GBUSH….

By nobama

October 8, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

Hussein Obama stammered too much. He was never clear on what he’s going to do. The last question he didn’t even answer. He’s too indecisive and has no clue on how to run a country-lack of experience. McCain is the only presidential candidate that has an understanding and experience to change this country from the Bush era. It’s time for a change, but it’s McCain who needs to change things.

By voter

October 8, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this

CFNeuman-off your meds again? Actually, I think McCain’s calling Obama “that one” was innocent. He simply forgot his name. You know how some of these old folks get. They get forgetful. They start to repeat themselves, like “I know how to fix that. I know how to fix that.” McCain had 26 yrs. in political office and if he knows how to fix things, what has he been waiting for? The system is more broken than ever!

By leetz

October 8, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this

We the people lost. I can’t believe in such serious times that one of these two men is going to be president. Both appear to be less concerned with fixing problems and more concerned with trying to convince people that the the problems are the other guy’s fault.

By justme52

October 8, 2008 8:19 AM | Link to this

I just have a question that concerns me and i don’t know if it has ever been brought up..but . are you afraid if Obama is president that he will get Louis Farrakhan and Rev Wright and Williams Ayers in his cabinet.

By 4 years

October 8, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this

McCain showed his age last night. I felt his dots did not connect. Obama came across more presidential and thoughtful. Just what we need a 9% Maverick and a female Pitbull who thinks the VP needs more power. Have we not had enough of Chaney who is the power behind the puppet Bush. 4 years is a short time for either party to get alot done unless the American people rise up and make their politicians accountable. What employer just lets their employee’s run wild in their business without accountability. NONE! We employee the politicians Americans and we need to keep our eye on Washington. Bush needs to be tried as a war criminal right along with Chaney for the lies and the deaths of American soldiers and others. Any other American would be tried and convicted for what those two have done. Americans need to clean up Washington.

By Huey

October 8, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this

Joe Biden on whether or not Barack Obama is ready for the presidency: “I don�t believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the- job-training.� Joe Biden tells it like it is. ‘nuff said…

By Obama won

October 8, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this

Heh Dayton.. Palin is NOT Obama’s running mate! You might want to review and edit this article!!!

By randy

October 8, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this

look mccain is the right choice

By Obama wins by a landslide

October 8, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this

I can’t believe anyone with any intelligence still believes McCain is fit to be president. He’s mean and a liar and has bad ideas.

By Jim

October 8, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this

Obama won this one hands down. He answered the questions with more substance and clearly had better style. Look how quickly McCain left the debate hall, while Obama hung around for pictures and to chat with people. IMO, Obama sealed the deal last night.

By barry hussein

October 8, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this

I’m going with Barry Hussein on this one. After all for some reason he does have the support of the Humass.They like Mr. Obama, they say he is going to change America.(sounds great!)I find it amazing that a lot of his campaign money has been received in donations less than $200 as well. How convenient, since the donor doesn’t have to be named if the donation is less than $200. I’m sure all that is legal and not coming from other countries. I also think its a little suspicious how when it becomes an issue, he cuts off ties to his friends and supporters Bill Ayers and Rev. Jeremiah Wright, but nobody cares about who Obama really is just who he says he is.

By Janet

October 8, 2008 8:05 AM | Link to this

Obama won the debate hands down! If I had to hear McCain say “My Friends” one more time! Mr. Naval McCain who was ranked 894 out of 899 does not have the knowledge for economics! As far as Palin…. yes she is cute… and yes she is smart… but she does not have enough experience to run this country. I’m still voting Obama/Biden, because the proof still shows that the Republicans have not helped this country!

By Grammy

October 8, 2008 5:19 AM | Link to this

Mr. McCain’s anti-Obama troops are getting nasty. Their lies get stranger by the day. They seem desperate. I don’t want this master-of-smears for my president.

By John Bettinger

October 8, 2008 5:04 AM | Link to this

My wife and I have our tickets for Sarah on Thursday in Wilmington. As for Obama at 5th 3rd Field I suggest that Andy Martin’s 9/22/08 Expose of “William Ayers has been the mastermind behind Barack Obama’s rise to power in Chicago” be printed by the DDN and sold at all entres to the ballpark. Barack has been a Pawn of Bill Ayers since 1987 through 2008 when he denied it. I won’t need a copy as I have been using email to warn people since 9/22. If I want to deal with a PAWN I will get out the CHESS set while Barack is pitching his lies & denials at 5th 3rd. I also would suggest to Fr. Lou at St. Joseph’s Church to sell copies of “”Bill Ayers has been the Mastermind behind Barack Obama’s rise to power in Chicago” that I will supply

By james

October 8, 2008 1:46 AM | Link to this

Obamas a socialist communist. faithfreedom.org/obama.html

By alpha

October 8, 2008 1:27 AM | Link to this

I used to have a lot of respect for John McCain. He spoke out when the Bush administration did more to threaten our freedom — through the domestic spying of the Patriot Act, the removal of health information privacy rights, the lack of due process for Guantanamo detainees, and the use of torture over the objections of our own military leaders — than any external enemy could have accomplished. Someone willing to stand up to his own party in times of crisis! No wonder there was even talk of recruiting him as the vice presidential candidate on the -Democratic- ticket in 2004. But then despite all of his strong words, despite clearly knowing these things were wrong, he turned around and voted to allow torture and to allow our government to spy on its own citizens. There’s a word for people who say one thing and do another, and it isn’t “maverick.” And choosing Sarah Palin as his vice presidential running mate? He didn’t think he could find -anyone- better? What an insult to pro-life women, let alone all the other perfectly competent people available. If he thinks that choice was a good move in order to improve his standing with religious extremists, he clearly doesn’t love his country as much as he loves his presidential ambitions.

By Kevin

October 8, 2008 1:08 AM | Link to this

Obama clearly has what it takes. McCain should be ashamed of himself by selling himself out and allowing the republican slime machine to take over his campaign. The same slime machine that derailed his campaign in 2000. Win at all costs I guess, eh John?

By barney frank

October 8, 2008 1:04 AM | Link to this

McCain won the debate. He looks very presidental.

By bonlee

October 8, 2008 12:59 AM | Link to this

Amazing; I moved from Ohio in 1988; I visited this year and noted that nothing had changed. Same griping and whining; oh poor me! Go Obama. Ohio deserves to wake up and become part of the SOLUTION instead of the problem. McCain would give them more pain (Palin) killers to numb them.

By Lounger

October 8, 2008 12:59 AM | Link to this

If most people remember, John Kerry was widely regarded as having won all 3 debates with W back in 2004, so the “winner” may not be as important as some think. Obama continues to look more of the presidential part each time, but his issues lack so MUCH substance. His use of “But look” was driving me insane almost as much as McCain’s use of “my friends”! McCain may not be as “charming” to look at or perhaps as elegant to listen to, but the man does show who he is. He’s a crafty former POW/Navy pilot who has the credentials, bi-partisanship experience, and loyalty to freedom. He has a sort of grumpy nature in general and can come across as a tough S.O.B. Some may believe that to be a character flaw, but to others it is a character trait. Maybe we need someone who isn’t afraid of standing up to his own party, George Bush, and those trying to kill us? Any average voter can tell you the damage that Bush has caused to this race and to his party’s candidates. It is shocking that Obama isn’t ahead by 20 points at this point??? I thought McCain was much more aggressive tonight and I was a little disappointed that the format shunned much of the response from the candidates - just as it was getting entertaining. It would have been nice to see Obama respond to the fact that he served on 2 boards with the unrepentant terrorist Ayers and benefited from a fundraiser Ayers’ hosted. Either way, the swing states will decide this one Nov. 4th and my bet is when voters get behind the voting curtain alone with their ballot and their God, the grumpy old man may just win in a squeaker?

By keeping it real

October 8, 2008 12:56 AM | Link to this

My prediction: Obama will win the election…then fail to fulfill his promises, and will continue to blame “the last 8 years” for the reason he is unable to get things done. Voters will tire of this by 2012, and if (and this is a big if) the Republicans can find a decent candidate, they will take back the White House.

By Walt

October 8, 2008 12:52 AM | Link to this

McCain’s judgement is clearly not Presidential material. He confirmed it by his pick of VP — “Failin’ Palin”. She needs to stay in Alaska and keep an eye on Russia for us.

By Mohammed

October 8, 2008 12:43 AM | Link to this

Listen, speaking on behalf of middle-easterners in Michigan, McCain won. Obama want’s to stop buying our oil in ten years, that’s stupid, there is still so much oil left

By Jim

October 8, 2008 12:38 AM | Link to this

“That one.” There’s a quote that will come back and bite McCain in the a** a thousand times over. People usually count on the president to think before he speaks, or acts. Echoes of George W. Bush.

By Tom

October 8, 2008 12:36 AM | Link to this

If you want to talk about socialism, then you should be interested in McSame’s new proposal that the government should buy up all the mortgages that are in trouble. How two-faced can you be? Obama won the debate, he will win in November by a landslide and take Ohio.

By Deke

October 8, 2008 12:24 AM | Link to this

CF Newmann. People like you are why states like ohio are in the shape they are in. OPEN YOUR EYES!!

By null

October 8, 2008 12:20 AM | Link to this

change? to what? socialism? we want the government to keep the peace and build highways. Keep the government out of our lives! go McCain!!

By Jack Miller

October 8, 2008 12:15 AM | Link to this

if you want vacuous - Obama’s the man - erily resemblence of the days before Carter was elected.

By Luke

October 8, 2008 12:10 AM | Link to this

Wow. Obama ran away with it. As CFNeumann illustrates well, only inane arguments can be made in favor of McCain.

By mc

October 8, 2008 12:02 AM | Link to this

Mccain is just too much of the same. We need a change and a dramatic one at that. Obama is the only way to vote. There are people right now in bad shape…don’t just think of yourselves. Your vote affects the nation. OBAMA/BIDEN ‘08

By Katrina

October 7, 2008 11:53 PM | Link to this

CFNeumann …what in the world does his parents dying young have to do with anything? It’s a non-issue. His parents aren’t running for president. Obama won this hands down. McCain was in his element and failed to ‘bring it’. Quite frankly, I’m sick of what the last 8 years has brought. The republican policies just don’t work.

By The Best Man~

October 7, 2008 11:42 PM | Link to this

CF Neumann, You got issues. I bet you are struggling.. And guess what? If Mccain gets in office …You are still gonna struggle and do you really think he’s gonna care about YOU?

By Girish

October 7, 2008 11:42 PM | Link to this

Christopher F. Neumann God Bless you and your kid… Next time you go to church ask Jesus how intelligent you are……

By Mimi

October 7, 2008 11:19 PM | Link to this

President Obama won the debate. He is thoughtful, articulate and has the wisdom we need to lead us out of the failed 8 years of Bush/McCain.

By Ohio Native

October 7, 2008 11:17 PM | Link to this

Senator McCain was very rude saying “That One” in the debate tonight to Senator Obama. He would have been reprimanded by the Senate if he referred to a fellow Senator in such a manner. I have lost a lot of respect for Senator McCain.

By Steven Saus

October 7, 2008 11:08 PM | Link to this

@CFNeumann: “Adolph nObama”? Have you graduated grade school yet?

By Joe sixpack

October 7, 2008 11:04 PM | Link to this

A vote for McPain is a vote for Karl Rove. Do we want 8 more years of Rove’s dastardly deeds?

By DaytonNative44

October 7, 2008 11:02 PM | Link to this

Obama: thoughtful, rational, clear, well-reasoned. McCain: repetitive, combative, graceless. My vote for Obama.

By CFNeumann

October 7, 2008 10:54 PM | Link to this

I cannot believe anyone with any form of intelligence would follow along with Adolph nObama’s spewances! BTW, did you know that both of his parents died at a young age? At least McCain’s Mom is still alive in her 90’s!!! McCain/Palin 2008, a team that will live thru the crisis!!!

By llb

October 7, 2008 10:54 PM | Link to this

Disagree. McCain proved why he should be President.

By john

October 7, 2008 10:48 PM | Link to this

i can’t wait for obama to speak in dayton !

By Uh Yup

October 7, 2008 10:48 PM | Link to this

Bottom line: Obama was more convincing.

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