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Martin Gottlieb: Finn loses ally to the left — or the right
If people set out to improve longstanding institutions and ways, they will most likely make things worse. That used to be a premise of American conservatism, as promoted, say, in mid-century by William F. Buckley’s National Review magazine. The mission statement of that magazine — the fountainhead of the conservative movement — said the magazine “stands athwart history, yelling Stop.”
Then the conservatives changed. Fear of change gave way to an ideology about how society and government should be structured. All change in the direction of ideological purity was suddenly good.
Take education policy. Confronting a public school tradition, the conservative changers were for everything their ideology could imagine and tolerate: school choice, merit pay for teachers, charter schools, more testing, more “accountability,” mayoral control of school systems, you name it.
The old notion that change-seekers tend to mess things up transmuted into liberals mess things up. That formulation proved emotionally satisfying to some, but it lacked the old elegance, the foundation in human nature, the insight that fallibility is general.
All of which is preface to this:
Those who have followed the modern debate over education policy — especially in Dayton — know the name Chester “Checker” Finn Jr. A local boy, he became assistant secretary of education, a leading conservative voice on school issues and a promoter of charter schools, especially in Dayton. The Washington-based Fordham Foundation, a think tank he heads, has adopted Dayton and Ohio as test cases.
Often when his name has been mentioned, the name Diane Ravitch has been not far behind. She’s been a colleague in arms, a co-author and a friend, also with a Fordham connection.
Well, educational policy circles are now abuzz — yes, these people do buzz with the best of them — over the fact that Ravitch, a greatly respected researcher and writer, has flipped on him. Not that she has turned him over to the authorities with allegations of cooked books or anything. But flipped ideologically speaking.
She’s out with a book called “The Death and Life of the Great American School System,” in which she lays out how and why she has become disillusioned with the school reforms that she and Finn have pushed so successfully.
She now believes the politicians should pretty much leave the public schools alone. She also believes public schools are the best hope, rather than alternatives.
Finn, too, has found the reform experience somewhat chastening. Some years ago he offered the memorable line, “This is hard,” about building charters that are better than public schools. That might not sound like much of an admission, but you have to understand where some conservatives started: give a principal a baseball bat and watch test scores rise.
Even now Finn and Ravitch have much in common. In response to her book, he writes (in a blog at the Fordham site):
“We … share a number of disappointments and frustrations. … ‘Accountability’ has turned to test-cramming and bean-counting, often limited to basic reading and math skills. That emphasis, in turn, has diverted what was already weak-kneed attention to history, literature, art, etc. … NCLB (No Child Left Behind, the main federal school program) has brought as many problems as solutions. … Charter schools are uneven at best. …
“A lot of innovations and reforms … have failed … — hence our essentially-flat test scores and graduation rates these past three decades — and some have had malign side effects.”
Where they disagree: He wants to get bolder and more insistent with reforms; she wants to turn back.
Finn has referred to his own prescription as “blow it up,” where the pronoun refers to the public school system.
Which brings us back to conservatism.
“Blow it up?”
So let’s see. Ravitch, a former Democrat (married to the Democratic lieutenant governor of New York) first moves to the political right, embracing free-market based solutions and siding with anti-union forces. Then, after long testing of these ideas, moves back in the other direction.
And yet, to see her latest move as that supposedly rare case of an older person (71) becoming more liberal is to miss something. Ravitch has embraced the insight of earlier conservatives about how trying to fix something that’s stable and traditional often makes it worse.
Complicating the ideological picture is this: the Finn-Ravitch educational reforms were eventually embraced to some degree by the political center including, now, the Barack Obama administration, which Ravitch criticizes it for.
So we have, from right to left, Finn, Obama and Ravitch.
Or is it left to right?
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By Mary
March 10, 2010 8:05 AM | Link to this
Our education system at K-12 and college has been dying for a long time. It has evolved into a place to be babysat, “socialized”, and entertained. Quiet intellectual study and thought, what’s that got to do with today’s education? I’ll bite into the conspiracy theories and say perhaps it is all by design to form us into a compliant, dependent culture.
By FAM
March 10, 2010 9:02 AM | Link to this
The fact that so many people refuse to accept is that, the public school system in the US, is a reflection of the state of our culture. Only when families work with the schools, and parents provide the foundation (i.e., discipline, desire to learn, acceptance of rules and structure, etc.) to their children, will schools be able to produce the results that everyone wants. Until our society improves its values, and accepts responsibility for the state of our children and our schools, nothing will improve.
By bobby
March 10, 2010 10:04 AM | Link to this
“Just 2,000 of the nations 20,000 high schools produce almost half of all high school dropouts.Nearly half of all black high school students wind up in one of these ‘drop out’ factories.” (WSJ)The old education model may work in the suburbs, but it isn’t working in urban districts. Charter schools have been an attempt by conservatives to improve these districts with alternative education choices, and in Harlem , particularly, they have achieved remarkable results. May we substitute the word shutter for blow up so that attention is paid to things that are working and not semantics?
By IT'S GREAT IN DAYTON!!
March 14, 2010 11:17 PM | Link to this
This shameful scenario, from DDN (pasted below) is illustrative of how far Dayton proper has descended. A dead body lies for several days in the yard of an abandoned house until it is discovered by SCHOOLCHILDREN. This is the type of thing that happens in THIRD WORLD NATIONS.————————————————-—DAYTON — Homicide detectives were summoned to the rear of an abandoned Warder Street house on Sunday, March 14, after five young boys playing nearby spotted a woman’s body in the back yard. Investigators believe the woman, who had no identification, was dead a few days before being found behind 58 Warder St. shortly before 3 p.m. The boys spotted her lying face up in the back yard below a rusted metal fire escape and near a rundown garage. She had been bleeding from the left eye and her pants were partially undone, neighborhood residents said. The house has been abandoned for at least eight years, said Victoria McNeal, president of the Riversdale Neighborhood Association. Its front porch is crumbling, its windows broken and its interior is gutted. Three houses next to it also are dipilated and boarded up. One bears the scars of a recent fire. The boys who made the discovery — ages 6 to 9 — were running behind one of the adjacent abandoned houses when they spotted the body McNeal said keeping drug users, children and vagrants away from the abandoned properties is a constant struggle. “It’s horrible, people get in there and do whatever,” she said, adding that there are at least 200 abandoned properties in the area. She said it was tragic that the boys made the discovery. “They are just babies. They don’t need to see something like this,” she said.——————————————————-HOW CAN ANYBODY POSSIBLY RUN A SCHOOL SYSTEM IN A COMMUNITY THAT ALLOWS THIS SORT OF THING TO OCCUR?
By IT'S GREAT IN DAYTON
March 17, 2010 10:03 AM | Link to this
The center city of Dayton has reached the point of no return. The downward spiral can no longer be reversed. The suburbs should do what they can to stay disconnected from Dayton, and stand clear as it hits bottom. Once things truly bottom out for Dayton, MAYBE a salvage effort can begin.
By RICHARD FLORIDA
March 19, 2010 6:26 PM | Link to this
Dayton schools still suck, huh?——————So, that CREATIVE CLASS stuff I pulled out of my @ss doesn’t work, huh?——————- Gee, that’s too bad.————————— Glad I got paid up front!