Tuesday, April 22, 2008
DAYTON — Brian Gregory suddenly has an available scholarship to bolster a position in which his team is thin, but the fifth-year Dayton coach is going to be selective in how he uses it.
Hoping to find more playing time at a Division II school, little-used center Thiago Cordeiro has decided to transfer, giving the Flyers the option of adding perhaps a point guard to their highly regarded 2008-09 recruiting class.
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But Gregory said there's only a 50-50 chance that he'll sign another player.
"If it's someone that fits with us and shows he could contribute to the program, then we'd probably take somebody, but we don't necessarily have to," Gregory said. "I know that's probably not the popular opinion, but I don't think you throw (scholarships) around lightly like that."
The departure of star Brian Roberts leaves the point-guard position in the hands of junior-to-be London Warren, who had more turnovers than assists last season (77-65), and Stephen Thomas, who seldom played as a freshman.
Gregory was scouting the junior-college ranks even before Cordeiro's departure — "You're always recruiting," he said — but admission standards at UD are sometimes an obstacle. And most top high school seniors are already signed.
Plus, if the Flyers burn their scholarship this year, they'll have only one recruit coming the following season (Centerville's Matt Kavanaugh).
But Gregory won't pass up a prospect who could help.
"We have a good list of players we're looking at and we'll move forward on this," he said.
Contact this reporter at (937) 225-2125 or at dharris@DaytonDailyNews.com.




Comments
By nick
April 25, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this
Lon-don War-ren ….. Lon-don War-ren
By nick
April 25, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this
Lon-don War-ren ….. Lon-don War-ren
By nick
April 25, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this
Lon-don War-ren ….. Lon-don War-ren
By Jersey
April 24, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this
Rob Lowery will be signed by Central Florida or somebody down south. I thought Steve Thomas had game. He’s Mr Basketball or something from Indy. Guess he can’t cut it if BG is bird hunting a point guard in JUCO. Cordiero was a fish. Kurt’s a fish. Face it. They both are nailed to the floor. No hops. Better figure something out quick Gregs.
By Mike B
April 23, 2008 11:40 PM | Link to this
Transfers into and out of a program are no longer unusal. I am more concerned about feeling there is need to bring in a PG. What this says to me is the coaching staff may have erred in recruiting Warren and/or Thomas. Your talking about 2 guys who were recruited to play the position and who will have been in the ‘system’ 1+ seasons already by the time next year rolls around. Bringing a juco in doesn’t indicate alot of confidence in at least one if not both ‘veterans’.
By Rudy Flyer
April 23, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this
J:
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REALITY
By j
April 22, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
he needs to get rob lowery sined this weekend when he is on campus so that loundon can play his good dee and run backup along with thomas 2 guard is fine watch out x next year we got a tone of big boys ud 1 in a/10 x 3 go ud to the final in the ncaa.
By Big Bob
April 22, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this
No big shock here. Dayton is averaging at least one transfer per off season since Gregory arrived. Not to many guys seem willing to be role players anymore, at least not at UD’s level.
By emmy
April 22, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this
If you think transfers didn’t happen under previous coaches, you weren’t paying attention. Just one example but how about: Stan King, Lamar Hill, Jason Osborne, and Sammy Smith. Four transfers under Purnell from the SAME recruiting class
By Sureshot
April 22, 2008 8:01 AM | Link to this
I really feel that if a player leaves on his own free will and was given a scholarship….he sould have to pay back a percentage…..The correct term is “RESPONSIBILITY & OBLIGATIONS”… Grow up and join the real world !!!!!
By Sharp
April 22, 2008 7:49 AM | Link to this
I like London Warren, but he is so out of control on offense because he is constantly trying to put up a ball in traffic that is 10 inches taller than him. Defense is only one part of the complete game. London needs to work on confidence in the off season and learn how to stop and pop.
By Flyer09
April 22, 2008 3:39 AM | Link to this
Adios London Warren? Have you seen the kid play defense? He was named the defensive player of the year on the team. Quick hands, and made some incredible blocks as well. He made serious strides and improvements since his freshman year.
By The Poet Warrior
April 21, 2008 11:39 PM | Link to this
You guys are brutal and uninformed: BG didn’t force anybody out & TC would’ve played. TC wanted more time than 5-12 a game. That’s it—End of story. It’s a new NCAA game today, kids transfer all the time, they don’t honor their commitments to a school anymore & they don’t lose anything by the move. Just look at that selfish kid Meacham: He’ll be a SENIOR this year at Illinois, instead of finishing up his career as promised to UD with B-Rob in a backcourt that would have gone Elite 8.
By Doug
April 21, 2008 11:35 PM | Link to this
Rob Lowery is a 1st team All American along with Simmons too, BG was out in Arizona this past weekend, watching both kids in the Juco All Star game, I believe that ship will be gone by Monday
By Karl
April 21, 2008 11:30 PM | Link to this
I would adios London Warren too. Why roster a PG who has more turnovers than assists? Marcus Johnson has the speed, smoothness, athleticism and ballhandling skills to be a great point guard.Plus he rarely turns the ball over and his size poses matchup problems on D. It is a shame not to play him there because he has the athletic ability to play in the bigs. Get a solid JC Pg to back him up. Cordero is expendable because Searcy showed that he was able to contribute solid minutes at the end.
By Hank S
April 21, 2008 10:59 PM | Link to this
Cordeiro is a scapegoat because of weakness at the point. Coach has two choices - a) stick with weak point guards and hope for the best next year or b) force open a scholarship to hopefully get a better point guard (or at least someone who is willing to shot a three). Holding the scholarship open makes no sense.Coach bears responsibilty for the weak point guards. Why is there no point guard among the incoming class? We’re way overloaded at shooting guard. Maybe Perry should be the one booted.
By Roger
April 21, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this
I agree it may be best to wait and get a really good recruit for the 2009 class. Most good players for 2008 have already committed.
By Jack
April 21, 2008 10:44 PM | Link to this
There were plenty of transfers under OP and O’Brien. You just didn’t get a chance to moan about them on the internet.
By Stone
April 21, 2008 9:34 PM | Link to this
It’s not that BG “lost” this Brazilian Beanpole, it’s that he stunk it up so bad that he “let him go” so we could get a REAL player with some Div I talent. How many more skinny 7 ft white dudes who wont/cant dunk do we need? Everytime I see Huelsman out there I have flashbacks to Wes Coffee as if he were on Xanax. At least TC had energy, but just wasn’t that talented. Now the Flyers can get a real recruit from JC and stack the team with some PLAYAS!
By digger67
April 21, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this
While I’m sure that TC will be replaced by a JC transfer who will have an immediate impact on the team, I’m troubled by what seems to be a rash of ‘transfer outs.’ Flyer teams, in my memory, were more stable. Anyone else have concerns sbout the program’s commitment to it’s scholarship players?
By Faithful
April 21, 2008 7:22 PM | Link to this
TC was a good guy and best of luck to him. UD will end up with either Simmons or Lowery and solidfy their depth at the PG spot. With that in mind, the Flyers will be at the top on the A10.
By Matt Th
April 21, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this
Correction. I made a mistake in transposing Simmons 48% and 42% to Lowery. Ignore those numbers on Lowery.
By Matt Th
April 21, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this
Cecil (Md.) College’s Rob Lowery expected to make an official visit this weekend to the University of Dayton. 6-2, 165 lb. guard avg 18 pts. & 9.2 assists after 22-0 mark (last stats found). Dayton, Iowa State, St. Johns, Wyoming, UCF, & Fresno St. in mix. 42% from 3, 48% FG
By Matt Th
April 21, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this
Division II Player of the Year: Jeremie Simmons.First-Team NJCAA All-American as well as Michigan Community College Athletic Association (MCCAA) and Region 12 Player of the Year after averaging 21.1 points, which ranked 11th in Division II, and 3.6 rebounds and 5.0 assists per contest. He shot 48.2 percent from the field and 42.2 percent from the three-point line.heavily recruited by South Florida, Alabama, Ohio State, Dayton, Butler and Valparaiso.
By Jon H.
April 21, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this
We were warned this would likely be the way Coach Gregory would free up another scholarship to find an experienced point guard who can shoot the three. However, I also wonder what Cordiero was told when he was recruited. Was he given reason to expect that he had the scholarship for at least 2 years? He might have lost an opportunity to stick with another team to come to Dayton. If so, it seems unfair to deny him the paid education, whether he plays or not, so long as he gave it his best shot.
By Bob
April 21, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this
We need a point guard BAD … just make sure he can shoot from the FREE THROW LINE and beyond 5 feet … Oh Yea, PROTECT THE BALL
By Thomas G.
April 21, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this
Its pretty obvious why the guy wants to leave. I just wonder what he was told when he was recruited. How many players has Gregory lost now. Would be interested in how his numbers compare with previous coaches relative to players recruited then lost after 1 or 2 years.
By Thomas G.
April 21, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this
Its pretty obvious why the guy wants to leave. I just wonder what he was told when he was recruited. How many players has Gregory lost now. Would be interested in how his numbers compare with previous coaches relative to players recruited then lost after 1 or 2 years.
By Dick O
April 21, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this
Got to trust the coach. If this kid showed poptential he would have been playing. They need a point guard, hope they get one.