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It is only Week 1, but the Bengals' season is over
COMMENT: Do you think the Bengals season is over already?
Monday, September 08, 2008
Some thoughts to ponder as you pour your half-and-half on your oatmeal this morning ...
• How dumb are the penalties being meted out by NFL and college officials for "excessive celebration?"
There isn't a fan out there who doesn't like to see a good play, and I doubt if many mind if the successful player or players have a little celebration.
Apparently the officials and those who hire them don't see it that way. I say lighten up and let the players have some fun. It is, after all, a game, isn't it?
• It certainly would be jumping the gun big time to say the Cincinnati Bengals' season is over. It is just Week 1.
But you know what?
The Bengals' season is over. They can't run, they can't pass and they certainly can't protect their quarterback.
And if you were satisfied with the defense giving up only 17 points, consider it was facing the lowly Baltimore Ravens, who started a quarterback and a running back who had never played in an NFL regular-season game before.
• If you are encouraged by the performances of the young Cincinnati Reds players, remember they are playing with nothing on the line. The only thing they have to do is go out and play ... they don't HAVE to win like a contending team.
Reds management still has to go out in the offseason and get some better players, especially in the outfield, pitching (bullpen and at least one more starter) and catching.
Will Reds management spend the money for at least one slugger and a top-notch pitcher? History says no.
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Comments
By paul
September 9, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
The Bungals will never have a winning team as long as Mike Brown owns them. His only concern is the sound of money going out of the fans pocket and into his. He hasn’t put a winning team on the filed in 15 years or more. The NFL needs to take his franchise from him.
By stillafan
September 9, 2008 12:23 AM | Link to this
I was really let down by watching the Bengals game yesterday. I thought we were the worst, than i watched the Raiders on MNF and realized things could be worse… i still believe, just wish they would worry more about the basics, like tackling and catching and blocking rather than name changing and end zone celebrations… and GET A RUNNING BACK!!! Why did we just give Rudi away? Chris Perry’s got nuthin!
By John Doe
September 8, 2008 11:04 PM | Link to this
Hey Rob. What do you mean it takes 10 years. They have had 30 years and still suck.
By Mark Cuban
September 8, 2008 10:48 PM | Link to this
If I buy your team, you may not win any championships, but at least you’ll go to the playoffs every year, eh?
By jungledawg32
September 8, 2008 10:37 PM | Link to this
Don’t give up on your team so soon Bengal fans. I’m a lifelong Browns fan and they looked just as pathetic last year in their season opener (some would say this year also)only to go on and have their best record in almost 20 years. In the NFL things can literally change overnight…
By MoronRob
September 8, 2008 10:32 PM | Link to this
There’s a cellar?
By Rob
September 8, 2008 10:02 PM | Link to this
All of you Bengals “fans” are pathetic. One day you will have a team as good as the Browns. It just takes about 10 years. Have fun in the cellar of the AFC north this year. HAHA
By Kevin
September 8, 2008 7:56 PM | Link to this
I used to wear Bengals colors until the mid 80`s became too much to bear. Follow my lead people….the big silver and blue star on the jersey I wear now can be very exiting! Hell…even a Falcons jersey would be more exiting than the stripes!!!
By Shane
September 8, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this
Some of you people just do not get it. Mike Brown is the one constant. So long as he or his family runs this team, it will go no where. A good coach would not want to come here, because he has no power. This season was over when the Bengals did not trade up in the draft to get a DT. Instead, Mike Brown likes the glamour position players. He has no clue how to build a team. He only excels at taking our money.
By Sunshine
September 8, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this
I grew up in Dayton, but live in LA now. So, if you guys really want to send the Bengals out here… we’ll take them. I’d rather watch them win in the sunshine with a new owner than watch them lose in a dark sports bar on dish network. We might actually appreciate them.
Just saying.
By luvable loser
September 8, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this
Start tossin’ those Bengal jerseys in the fire barrels…make some news.
By David
September 8, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this
Good to see there are tons of Bandwagon fans out here. Seriously, cries like “move to team to LA” and “yup, it’s over” show why teams like Pitt and Cleveland have way better fans. Show some support! Yes, I don’t think Mike Brown is a very good owner; yes, I think he’s cheap.
Cleveland didn’t have a franchise for 5 years and they have more fervor than you losers. I’m a lifelong Cincy supporter and will always be. Move the team to LA - whoever thinks that is a bigger loser than
By ShockMonkey
September 8, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this
Tom wrote: Move the team to L.A. Get ‘em out of here. You kidding? LA doesn’t want them. Nobody would show-up after a couple of weeks.
This season’s over. Then again, is anything really different than what we’ve witnessed 17 out of 18 years? Not really. What’s the one constant? Mike Brown. Everything else is moot.
By guru
September 8, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this
Carson Palmer get out while you can!!!! College players going pro, demand to be traded if the Bengals dratft you, its career suicide!!!! Keith Rivers, sandbag so they cut you next year, its your only hope!!!!!
By scott
September 8, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
WHY DO PEOPLE THINK THE BENGALS LET JOHNSON, ANDERSON, ONEILL GO? SO MIKE BROWN COULD REPLACE THEM FOR HARDLY NO MONEY…HE WANTS THE MONEY IN HIS POCKET….WE GOT POTENTIAL HALL OF FAME PLAYERS AT QB AND WR RIGHT NOW, BUT MIKE BROWN WANTS TO BE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE NFL YET AGAIN….EVERY YEAR WE LET PLAYERS GO…AND DONT REPLACE THEM IN FREE AGENCY…I FEEL SORRY FOR PALMER AND JOHNSON…ALL THAT TALENT…..BUT A OWNER HOLDING THEM DOWN…I FEEL LIKE WERE BACK IN THE 90’S…
By scott
September 8, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this
WHY DO PEOPLE THINK THE BENGALS LET JOHNSON, ANDERSON, ONEILL GO? SO MIKE BROWN COULD REPLACE THEM FOR HARDLY NO MONEY…HE WANTS THE MONEY IN HIS POCKET….WE GOT POTENTIAL HALL OF FAME PLAYERS AT QB AND WR RIGHT NOW, BUT MIKE BROWN WANTS TO BE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE NFL YET AGAIN….EVERY YEAR WE LET PLAYERS GO…AND DONT REPLACE THEM IN FREE AGENCY…I FEEL SORRY FOR PALMER AND JOHNSON…ALL THAT TALENT…..BUT A OWNER HOLDING THEM DOWN…I FEEL LIKE WERE BACK IN THE 90’S…
By Bill
September 8, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this
We seem to be in the black days of sports in Cincinnati right now. In the bengals case, it has actually been since the day Paul Brown died and his bean counter son Mike Brown took charge. Has no idea how to build a Winning football team and really no desire to do so. In the Reds situation, we haven’t had anything to root since the days of Marge Schott. As a lifelong resident and fan of all things Cincinnati, very very sad and depressing because I really don’t see any silver lining in our future
By steve
September 8, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
The thing that truly baffled me about yesterday’s game was how bad our game plan was. Worst coaching ever. I knew we were going to fail on the third and one the second we handed the ball to the running back. Everyone did.
By Doco
September 8, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this
It’s not over! There’s still 15 more games to lose! Come on people!
By jimmy
September 8, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
Well since we can’t fire mike brown marvin has to go. I have two choices that might be just what the bengals need. One would be bill cowher the other would be Marty Schottenheimer.
By Morty
September 8, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
Mike Brown is the love child of Art Modell, I know it!!
By Lee
September 8, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this
From seeing the game yesterday and looking at the schedule, 2-14 at best for the Bengals.
By Tom
September 8, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this
Move the team to L.A. Get ‘em out of here.
By mike
September 8, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
I truely believe that this Bengals team is one of the worst teams ever assembled beginning with the coaches!
By Yippee
September 8, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this
I feel sorry for good players like TJ, Willie, Rudi, Carson, Levi and Chad who have squandered their prime years playing for a team that really has had no shot at being successful since Super Bowl XXIII. At least they get paid millions of dollars and can leave via free agency, us hometown fans are stuck with this team for better or for worse. When will it EVER get better???
By BIGBOY
September 8, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
The Bengals are like an old car. So many things wrong, it’s not worth fixing. I also don’t think Marvin is feeling the love anymore. Maybe we can ask God if we could borrow Woody Hayes. At least we would see a better effort on the field!
By tom
September 8, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this
I agree, season over. I felt the same way last year after the Cleveland debacle. Palmer’s career peaked with the Pittsburgh cheap shot in the playoff game. The Bengals are a soft team.
By TB
September 8, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this
We need to have Mike Brown’s DNA tested on the Maury Povich Show. There is no way Mikie is the son of Paul Brown, the knowledgeable football coach and creator of the Bengals.
By Bob540
September 8, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
The comparison with Reds is appropriate: Both only start to play once they are mathematically eliminated from post-season. Reds are rebuilding (again) and the Bengals will soon start to rebuild (again). I foresee Lewis, C. Johnson, Carson and T.J. all leaving within the next couple years, to success elsewhere. True: 2005 was aberration.
By jack
September 8, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this
The one and only season that Marvin Lewis had a winning record, statistics showed that they had the easiest schedule in NFL history. Hardly a team had a record over .500.
By bill
September 8, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
If the media said that Marvin Lewis was an awful coach, they would be highly over rating him!
By Ridnaway
September 8, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this
WANTED: Disgruntled, middle-age white guy seeks city with a sports franchise. Must have at least one chance in a million to be competitive. The sport doesn’r matter. Said city must have no affiliation with any team named BENGALS, REDS or BEARCATS. Respond in confidence to BobBratkowskiHasTheImaginationOfAGoldfish dot comm.
By Glen
September 8, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this
Players and coaches should get paid only if they win! None of them are hungry enough…including Mike Brown. We fans keep buying tickets and maxing out our credit cards to purchase official Bengals paraphernalia. We buy barrels of Heinz ketchup to put on our millions of JTM burgers because they are “official Bengal sponsors”. The fact is they all make millions of dollars regardless of how the team performs! Shame on us for spending money on such a consistently lousy franchise!
By Lauren
September 8, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this
Maybe the Bengals should have to forfeit every game check for every game they lose. Maybe they would feel a need to actually play the game. Oh wait. Then Mike Brown would tell them to lose on purpose. Never mind.
By PEACEMOM62
September 8, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
never has their alias fit more: how bout dem BUNGULS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Chris
September 8, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this
The Bengals are toast. I have rooted for the Bengals from afar (military) for so many years and I am so disappointed with their play. It all starts with the offensive line. Surely Willie could have played better than what they have now. When you have only 8 first downs, you let the other team control the ball. Even a good defense would get tired with that time-of-possession difference. I don’t know what the Bengals are doing and I don’t thnk they do either.
By Marvin must go
September 8, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
Marvin Lewis has turned out to be the most overrated coach in franchise history, period. It is time to run him out of town, I would rather have Dave Shula back, at least you KNEW you were going to suck with him. Get rid of Lewis, Johnson and dare I say it….Palmer who has never been the same since the playoff game.
By Ted
September 8, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this
THE BUNGALS ARE GETTING AS BAD AS THE LA CLIPPERS
By Thelma
September 8, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this
Come on now…I’m a long-time Bengals fan, and I couldn’t even bear to watch the whole game. I’m not sure what the problem is, and maybe it’s Marvin. Nobody really seems to care about putting forth more effort than a high school team, which frankly probably could have done better yesterday. It’s almost like they don’t even want to win anymore!
By GoBrown
September 8, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
As long as Mike Brown runs this organization it will be the most disorganized franchise in sports. He will not let his coaches make a decision and controls with a heavy hand. He will not spend money on players and only steals it from the city of Cincy (ie. the new stadium). It is time for Mike Brown and family to let go of Cincinnati.
By Joe Quimby
September 8, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
Carson Palmer is going to get killed if the O line wont block. This looked like the New Orleans Preseason game. The D let a rookie QB torch them? They Suck.
By BRAD UHLENHAKE
September 8, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this
REFLECTING, I CONCLUDED THAT THE DEFENSE PLAYED WELL. IT HELD IT’S OWN - THOUGH WHEN ONE CONSIDERS THIS WAS AGAINST A ROOKIE qb, WE HAVE TO NOTCH THAT RATING DOWN TO ONLY AN ‘acceptableM’ I WAS APPALLED AT THE OFFENSE. THE LINE IS HORRIBLE - ALLOWING KEY COG, ERIC STEINBACH TO GET AWAY NEABT WE LOST THE CEMENT OF THE LINE. SADLY, WE ARE WATCHING THE wasting OF WR AND QB TALENTS… THE LIKES OF WHICH THIS TEAM WILL NEVER HOPE TO SEE HERE AGAIN.
By Josh Thompson
September 8, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
Mike Brown is a dumpster fire!
By Chad
September 8, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this
The worst franchise in professional sports shows us why once again. What a pathetic effort. Another long season in Cincinnati. Go Jets!!
By Adam
September 8, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this
Yes the defense gave up a ton of yards, but the real culprit of the loss is the offensive line. The worst move in the history of the NFL may have been the franchising of Stacy Andrews. He got blown up on almost every play. The offense’s inability to move the ball left the defense on the field so much they didn’t even have a chance to stop Baltimore. That being said…why in the world do we keep John Thorton around? When is the last time he made a great play?
By Lee
September 8, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this
Sad to say but yes, its over. Even if the offence was on fire the Bengals would have still lose. When you give up over 200 yards rushing your not going to win many if any games. The offence will put up points Im not worried about that, its the Defence as usual in my opinion.
By mike
September 8, 2008 8:20 AM | Link to this
Ugly! Play calling was terible. I would fire the offensive play coordinator or Marvin if he was calling the plays. 4th and two and they run the ball! Option plays are the name of the game on 4th down. Defense was awful as well. Slow players not motivated.
By mike
September 8, 2008 8:20 AM | Link to this
Ugly! Play calling was terible. I would fire the offensive play coordinator or Marvin if he was calling the plays. 4th and two and the run the ball! Option plays are the name of the game on 4th down.
By Paul
September 8, 2008 7:57 AM | Link to this
Let’s not forget the tried and true battle cry! WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR! WELL!
By Jon
September 8, 2008 7:43 AM | Link to this
Yep, it’s over. I was at the game and it was a complete joke. Flacco looked like a superstar, and we couldn’t even get his jersey dirty. What happened to that aggressive, blitzing defense we’ve been hearing about with Mike Zimmer? Somewhere, Leslie Frazier and Fat Chuck B are laughing right now. Same old bungles.
2005 was an aberration. This team is terrible, and Mike Brown is the devil. As long as him and his family of idiots are in charge we have no chance.
By Gary
September 8, 2008 7:39 AM | Link to this
I think it is about time the Bengals should start at the top and clean house. This is general manager, coaches, They got Rudi and kept the other running backs. I am 65 and I could out run Perry. He just stinks. Get rid of Chad! or what ever he wants to be called. The reds are just as bad. Start at the top; general manager, coach and get some pitching. They got rid of Dunn and Juior and got nobody in return. (why)