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Bengals looking to break Pittsburgh's six-game winning streak in Cincinnati.
Wednesday, October 24, 2007
> What are your thoughts on the rivalry?
CINCINNATI — The guys in stripes don't really care for the Steelers.
"We don't like Pittsburgh and they don't like us," Bengals linebacker Caleb Miller said in anticipation of Sunday's game at Paul Brown Stadium. "That's the way it always has been here."
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If possible, there's been even more acrimony the past couple years. In 2005 and 2006, the Bengals' seasons have ended with home losses to Pittsburgh.
With a win Sunday, Cincinnati (2-4) would be a game behind Pittsburgh (4-2). A loss means a three-game deficit and puts a serious damper on any Bengals playoff hopes. The Steelers have won six straight in Cincinnati.
"I don't know," Bengals coach Marvin Lewis said of that streak. "We're going to try to figure it out this Sunday."
In '05, Cincinnati lost at home (27-13) and then won at Pittsburgh, 38-31. That win all but iced the Bengals' AFC North title.
"It's like going from a black-and-white TV to a color TV," Bengals receiver Chad Johnson said after that game. "It was Pittsburgh, it's Cincinnati now, and it'll probably be that way for a while."
It wasn't.
The Steelers won the wild card game at Cincinnati, 31-17, remembered most for Kimo von Oelhoffen's hit on Carson Palmer that ripped the Cincy quarterback's knee ligaments. Pittsburgh won the Super Bowl that season.
Last year, the Bengals won 28-20 at Heinz Field. The Sports Illustrated cover that week showed Miller tackling Hines Ward with the headline, "The Nastiest Rivalry in the NFL."
With a chance to make the playoffs in last year's regular-season finale, Cincinnati fell to Pittsburgh at home in overtime, 23-17.
Asked if the rivalry is fun or nasty, defensive end John Thornton said: "It's both. Here it's more nasty because we haven't won. There it's fun because we always win up there (three of the last four). We have to change that around."
Miller said the Bengals need wins, no matter the opponents. But if it's Pittsburgh in the way, all the better.
"We have to win the rest of our games," Miller said. "And it happens to be a team that we would love to break into many pieces if we get the opportunity."
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| Stealing victories | ||
| Bengals home wins against Pittsburgh have been rare since the days of Sam Wyche. How Bengals coaches have fared against the Steelers in Cincinnati. | ||
| Marvin Lewis | 0-5* | |
| Dick LeBeau | 1-2 | |
| Bruce Coslet | 2-2 | |
| Dave Shula | 0-4 | |
| Sam Wyche | 6-2 | |
| Forrest Gregg | 2-1 | |
| Homer Rice | 1-0 | |
| Bill Johnson | 1-2 | |
| Paul Brown | 4-2 | |
| TOTAL | 17-20 | |
| * ?Äî includes playoff loss | ||
Sunday's game
Who: Pittsburgh Steelers (4-2) at Cincinnati Bengals (2-4)
When: 1 p.m.
Radio: WTUE-FM (104.7), WLW-AM (700)
TV: WHIO (CBS, Channel 7)
Comments
By eric
October 29, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this
Hey Dan, you catch the game? amazing that you make no sense at all, Rothlesburger is still a young quaterback, he makes mistakes, but he’s also won a superbowl. say what you will but at least go by the facts, we lead our divison. dominated every team in our division. and have the 1 defense in the league. the only thing that is worthless, is your stupid comments. 5-2. wait till we stomp those cheating Patriots, we will win that game.
By Dan
October 26, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this
And Steelers fans want to talk about all the arrest we had. The San Diego chargers had just about as many and their starting linebacker got shot by police. They haven’t had any off-field incidents this year. There isn’t a team in the NFL that hasn’t had any problems with their players. Santanio Holmes was charged with domestic abuse. Joey Porter was shot and jumped Levi Jones in a casino. The Steelers aren’t the saints they think they are.
By Dan
October 26, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this
The key to beating the Steelers is to make Worthlisberger throw the ball. His record when he throws it more than 25 times is 6-10. He is not the QB god that brainless Steelers fans think he is. If the game is put on his shoulders, he collapses like a paper bag. With Willie Parker’s tendency to fumble the ball, things look good for Bengals fans.
By Doco
October 26, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this
Hey Chris. Apparently you’ve never been to Cleveland or Peeburgh if you think Cincy is bad. And how’d you find yourself on a Dayton website? Go back to your hole. As far as Chad in the HOF. In just 6 seasons he has more pro bowls than Swann and Stallworth, over 2,000 more yards than Swann, and will soon pass Stallworth & Ward in all categories. So if he isn’t in, then none of those 3 deserve it. And I know, rings, rings, rings. Should you be in the Hall just because you’re on a good team?
By Chris
October 26, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this
Hello bungles fans! I see a lot of whining on here…To Doco and Jeff…are you guys smoking the lovely crack they have in the dingiest city in the world? I used to drive thru Cincy all the time-JUST DRIVE THRU-and my world seemed to go from color to B&W-kind of like Stillers TV-right, Chad? HOF jacket…he should keep that jacket b/c that’s about as close to the Hall as he’s getting. I almost feel bad about Marvin b/c he’s a local…almost
By steeler75
October 25, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this
As always Bungles fans whine about the past,but look at the present. You still have NO DEFENCE and with that you’ll never win those tight tough games you seem to lose to the Black/Gold…Hey did anyone see that Holmes guy pass???……..GO STEELERS!!!!
By Eric
October 25, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this
as a Steeler’s fan, i had to move to Cincinnati. right in the lion’s den! i can honestly say this rivalry has beat very heated up since to 2004-5 season. then the hit on Palmer. this is the Nastiest rivarlry in the nfl i believe. it hurts the bengals to be down this far in the season, but they had it coming. fell apart durning Patriots game, Chad, hoots, yelling at palmer on the sidelne. me, me, me. you ever see someone yell at Brady? no, cuz thats a TEAM. Bengals have lots to learn. We DEY BTCH
By KP
October 25, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this
Chad,
Actually, the only domestic abuse that will take place is at PBS. The Bengals will just be on the receiving end of it. And it’s completely legal - I know, I’ve been a witness to it for years.
On a side note, you only have to push the little gray button once. Your comments were just as unfunny the last two times they were posted as they were the first time.
By KP
October 25, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this
Sam,
NEWSFLASH: This just in. It’s 2007. Check your calendar - it says so.
By KP
October 25, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this
Chad,
Obviously you have no clue what embarrassment is, do you? Losing to a team one year removed from the AFCC game with no time left on the clock is not embarrassing. This is embarrassment:
The Steelers have beaten both New England and Indy this decade. Have the Bengals? Uh, no…
By Chad
October 25, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this
I guess if we were being humanitarians about this we should hope for a Steeler win this Sunday. We all know that the cases of domestic abuse go up the week following a Pittsburg loss.
By Chad
October 25, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this
I guess if we were being humanitarians about this we should hope for a Steeler win this Sunday. We all know that the cases of domestic abuse go up the week following a Pittsburg loss.
By Chad
October 25, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this
I guess if we were been humanitarians about this we should hope for a Steeler win this Sunday. We all know that the cases of domestic abuse go up the week following a Pittsburg loss.
By KP
October 25, 2007 7:57 AM | Link to this
Doco, I’ve never heard the Steelers whine, other than stuff like,
“Man, these Super Bowl rings sure are heavy!” “Having to travel for three playoff games might be a little difficult, but we’ll deal with it.” “We really hate to run the ball all the time, but if teams are too lame to stop it, that’s their problem.” “Hines, you could have at least given me a chance to hit him before you knocked him out!!”
So yeah, my mistake.
By Luke
October 25, 2007 4:24 AM | Link to this
While it si true the Broncos won against the Steelers last week. Refresh my memory:Pittsburgh DID beat CLeveland this year right? and they did not give up 51 points to any team in the last decade. Bungles fans keep whining, Steelers fans keep WINNING
By Jamie
October 25, 2007 1:07 AM | Link to this
Hey Doco,
My “snot-nosed kid” (your words) was born and mostly raised in Cincinnati. And guess what? She’s a hardcore Steelers fan. So much for your “theory” that our kids will become Patriots fans. She’s in college now, and her dream job is to work in PR for the Steelers, though she knows that will be hard to achieve.
The thing that you Bungals fans (along with most of the league) just don’t get is that being a Steeler fan is in our DNA. It’s not a “choice.” It is who we are.
By Another Steelers Fan
October 24, 2007 10:37 PM | Link to this
Whine, whine, whine the Bengals will NEVER have the CLASS that the Steelers have. The Bengals are a bunch of idiots who should stay in jail and throw away the key. Keep whining you bunch of losers. Bengals will never stop whining and they will never amount to anything. BLACK AND GOLD WILL KEEP HAUNTING YOU FOREVER!!!!! GO STEELERS BEAT BENGALS ON SUNDAY ONCE A STEELER FAN ALWAYS A STEELER FAN. TRY IT SOMETIME ITS ALL GOOD
By Ice Steeler In Atlanta
October 24, 2007 10:15 PM | Link to this
Bengals Rivals? Don’t make me laugh!!! Maybe someday if the Bengals can stay off the police blotter long enough. BTW, hope you Bengal fans are still watching that B & W TV Chad was so wild about!!! LMAO
By Sam
October 24, 2007 7:38 PM | Link to this
In the 50’s & 60’s Paul Brown’s Cleveland Browns used to kill Pittsburgh all the time.
By Duane Shope
October 24, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this
Steelers are CLASS not Last
By Duane Shope
October 24, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this
Steelers are CLASS not Last
By Chad
October 24, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this
A comment on Rob’s post. If you think that the Steelers, who just got embarrassed by the Broncos, can get past Indy and New England in the post season then you are sadly mistaken. Lay off the kool-aid.
By BIG PAPA
October 24, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this
THE STEELERS WILL BEAT THE STRIPES OFF THE SORRY, PITIFUL,UNDERACHIEVING BUNGLES!!!!!!!!!!!!! COME SUNDAY THE STEELERS WILL MAKE THE FUR FLY!!!!!!!! GO STEELERS
By Tim
October 24, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this
Rob, You typify a Steeler fan. Terrible grammar, an inadequate vocabulary, and misguided dreams are what I love about you people…
By Steelers' Fan
October 24, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this
I bet the Bengals will allow Chris Henry to rejoin the team when the NFL lifts his suspension. Why? Because his value as a wide receiver is greater than the integrity of the Bengals’ front office. Does he deserve another chance? No. He is a repeat offender. He made bad choices - several times. Where is the Bengals’ integrity? He should not have played against the Steelers during the first game of the 2007 season. Other teams take the high road. Not the Bengals! Go Steelers!
By rob
October 24, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this
The Bungals had 1 year and lost in the playoffs. They are the most overrated team I ever seen. Steelers real rival is Cleveland anyhow. Enjoy last place Bungal fans, while Steelers win there 6th Super Bowl!
By Phil
October 24, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this
The heck with it, I’ll be playing poker.
By Doco
October 24, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this
Thank you KP for agreeing with me that the Steelers are whiners. I can’t seem to recall the Bengals whining though. Not even when they got arrested. They handle their depression from losing like real men. They get drunk and high and drive around speeding with underage girls. Of course the fans are going to whine though. All teams have some idiot fans. I’m done talking trash now because the Bengals are probably going to get completely annihilated Sunday. Enjoy it frontrunners!
By money
October 24, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this
the bengals are trying to get where the steelers have already been on top of the football world
By Paul
October 24, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this
Hey stooler fat chick, nice smack talk BUT, BUTT is spelled with two T’s kind of like stooler is spelled with two O’s. Maybe if you didn’t drop out of middle school you would know that.
By KP
October 24, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this
Doco = Even MORE Clueless
“Have you ever seen a team with that much success talk trash and whine so much?!?”
No Doco, but I have seen a team with virtually no success, talk trash and whine more than anyone - THE BENGALS. Especially after the Steelers KICKED THEIR TEETH IN and won their 5th championship. Oh yeah, with a playoff berth on the line, great defense on Santonio Holmes last year. Gutless group of felons. Only thing worse is their deluded fans, thinking that they are SB-caliber.
By steelers babe
October 24, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this
bengals fans are just a bunch of losers!!!! all they do is whine and cry!!! GO STEELERS!!!!!
By steelers babe
October 24, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this
steelers will womp cincy’s but!!!!!!!!!!! go black & gold!!!!!! beat those bengals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By steelers babe
October 24, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this
steelers will womp cincy’s but!!!!!!!!!!! go black & gold!!!!!! beat those bengals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By AC
October 24, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this
Randy,
“Typical illerate, stupid cincy fan”
You look like a bigger a*s than the person you tried to correct. It’s illiterate not illerate you moron. Dumbfounded? You’ll feel like that again on Sunday.
By Doco
October 24, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this
I am jealous of the Steelers success, but not their MUSH-MOUTH mentality. Have you ever seen a team with that much success talk trash and whine so much?! Like Toothlessberger and the Chin whining about him getting hit low(No one in the Bengals organization complained about the Palmer hit). Or Porter and his posse robbing Levi Jones in Vegas. Or the secondary talking trash at the beginning of every game and crying by the end when they get torched by Chad and TJ. Is Ben still riding motorcycles?
By Paul
October 24, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this
stealer fans are a bunch of toothless idiots. Black and Gold, lol! Where is the gold exactly? It looks more like pee yellow.
By Paul from Dayton
October 24, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this
stealer fans are a bunch of toothless idiots. Black and Gold, lol! Where is the gold exactly, it looks more like pee yellow.
By Kevin R.
October 24, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this
Yeah, I admit some became fans because Pittsburgh was dominant. But the majority became fans because that’s how it works in Pittsburgh. Me? I declared the year they went 2-12 (‘69?). Most of my friends already were fans…long-suffering fans. And love to hate the Browns, but honestly would love to see the Browns win before I’d like the Bengals to win. And flat forget the Ravens…anyone who beats them are heroes in my book.
By Randy
October 24, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this
Who cares what the biggest rivalry is? The truth is that every team in the division is a rival.
What I think is funny is that every team the Steelers face want to make a big deal about it being “Steelers Week.” You all know deep down you want to have success and smash-mouth mentality of the Black and Gold!!
By Randy
October 24, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this
Hey Jeff….”know” one? Typical illerate, stupid Cincy fan.
HERE WE GO STEELERS!!
By SteelerChick
October 24, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
Just remember one thing Bengals fans…WE DEY!
By SteelerChick
October 24, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
Just remember one thing Bengals fans…WE DEY!
By Jeff
October 24, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this
Wrong. Its a HUGE rivalry for Pittsburgh. HUGE. And Pittsburgh fans know it. They like to downplay it as a way of demeaning Cincinnati (a FAR better city than &hittsburgh by the way). Good try, but know one is buying that line of crap, Steelers fan.
By Doco
October 24, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this
Ahhh Steelers fans. Gotta love ‘em. A whole generation of frontrunners. Let me guess. You were born between ‘57 and ‘67 and became “fans” when you were pubescent and the Steelers were dominant. Just like all your snot-nosed kids are going to be Patriots fans. The Browns are definitely the traditional rival for the Steelers going back to 1950. But recent history has added alot of emotion to the Bengals rivalry. As evidenced by the oh-so-clever “fans” and their oh—so-witty “we dey” chant.
By Steelers' Fan
October 24, 2007 9:02 AM | Link to this
Go Steelers! I simply laugh at the Cincy media and fans as they consistently jump on and off the Beagles bandwagon. After their win over the Ravens on Monday night they were talking Super Bowl. Two weeks later they were talking about firing the entire coaching staff. And then the media complained about all of the Steelers’ fans in attendance at Paul Brown stadium. And they admonished their own fans for selling tickets to Steelers’ fans. Very funny indeed! Go Steelers! Beat them Beagles!
By KP
October 24, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this
Richard = Clueless.
If it was such a dirty hit, why wasn’t KVO fined by the league (or penalized for that matter)? Simple physics - a 300-pound guy when moved in one direction is not easily (or quickly) going to move in another direction. The fact is, the game is over, the Steelers won and it’s a new season. A word of advice - call Santa, ask for a defense for next year, and quit blaming the Steelers for the Bengals deficiencies.
By Jason
October 24, 2007 8:23 AM | Link to this
Actually sir, whats laughable is that here we are, nearly two years later, and you are still whining and complaining about the same old stuff. get over it and find another excuse as to why the cincinnati bengals have once and will never again be “good.”
WE DEY BABY
By richard
October 24, 2007 8:12 AM | Link to this
sure sure, kimo was ‘forced’ into his leg. The he was forced to wrap his arm around his leg and twist. What’s done is done, but saying it was a clean hit is just laughable.
By Jason
October 24, 2007 8:12 AM | Link to this
I think the rivalry is alot bigger for the bengals than the steelers, but as a steelers fan, i can honestly say that only the patriots top the bengals as far as the most anticipated games. no matter the result the benglas-steelers matchups have always been close, and i dont expect this one to be any different. the steelers have alot to prove after a big defensive letdown in denver, and the bengals finally got back on track last week and are looking to carry that momentum this week. WE DEY!
By richard
October 24, 2007 8:11 AM | Link to this
sure sure, kimo was ‘forced’ into his leg. The he was forced to wrap his arm around his leg and twist. What’s done is done, but saying it was a clean hit is just laughable.
By bill
October 24, 2007 8:11 AM | Link to this
The Steelers are overrated but will beat the lowely Bungles. Marvin Lewis needs to go.
By Dana
October 24, 2007 7:58 AM | Link to this
Cleveland and Pittsburgh is only a rivalry IF YOU WIN ONCE IN AWHILE!!! When was the last time the clowns even kept it close! Every time they play the rustbuckets, they lose by 40 points!
The Bengals - Steelers rivalry is heating up because the Bengals have been playing them tough, winning, winning in their stadium, beating them for the division title, and, generally, being a pain in the but to them and their fans!!
WHO DEY!! GO BENGALS!!!
By Eric
October 24, 2007 7:21 AM | Link to this
Cleveland and Pittsburgh is the only “rivary”. Cincinnati is sucking hind t*t.
By Tim
October 24, 2007 5:54 AM | Link to this
I have to agree with Kevin. I’m a diehard Bengal fan with a tattoo of the logo on my chest. Kimo has always been a clean player and he was pushed into Carson’s knee. The Browns/Ravens/Steelers rivalry is fiercer than anything between Pitt and Cincy. Do I hate Pitt? HECK YES! I also hate the Browns (if it’s brown, flush it down) and the Ravens. I also respect those teams and their players. It’s only because Cincy shares the division with them that I root so hard against those other 3 teams
By kevin
October 23, 2007 11:36 PM | Link to this
The Bengals and Steeler’s rivalry, not. The rivalry is only from the Bengals perspective not Pittsburgh, yes they are in the same division but Browns or Ravens matter more to Pittsburgh. It’s always been Cleveland and Pittsburgh but with the move of Cleveland to Baltimore it’s spread. The Bengals aspect is created by the Bengals to fire up the team and city. The Palmer incident is way over blowen, just look at the film Kemo was forced into Palmer by Palmers own Lineman,its there to help cincy.