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By Bear

November 10, 2008 12:33 AM | Link to this

Looked to me like Castillo was protecting himself from an onslaught of dayton dragons. Anyone else see it that way.

By niggermania dot com

October 30, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

Send that f**king n****r back to the Dominican Republic! - and instead of a firing squad he could get a point blank pitching squad, meaning perhaps that his punishment, on top of fines, damages and such, could be a fast ball at the base of the same pitching mound by the hardest throwing Dragon - forced to stand still and take it in the face.

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By R

August 1, 2008 8:08 PM | Link to this

Dayton player #7 Brandon Menchaca was the man who took Julio down. I think Brandon is a hero who stood up for his teammates and his fans. He saw what this dope did and he took him out. No easy job for Brandon who is alot smaller than Julio. Give kudos to the little, American, white guy who had the guts to stop this monster’s rage.

By PCTech4

August 1, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

I wonder what would have happened if Castillo would have made it int the stands with the bat, a stadium filled with Dragon Fans, what was he thinking? I also wonder why the Midwest League is taking so long to handle the situation.

By Pete

July 31, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

Castillo would’ve been a marked man by any team for the remainder of the season. Cubs made the right move in that regard. As for his actions — absolutely dispicable! If I’m in Cubs management, he’s gone completely & if any other teams have half of a brain, they wouldn’t touch him w/ a 10 foot pole.

By Moi

July 29, 2008 10:35 PM | Link to this

It has nothing to do with where Castillo’s from. It has everything to do with his actions. He intentionally threw a baseball at a player who was not wearing a helmet. He happened to miss and hit a fan (someone I happen to know, who is an incredibly nice person) who had no reason to expect a baseball to come flying toward him at that moment. It was not ‘part of the game’ as some have said. Castillo was trying to injure someone, and could have killed them. He should be banned from baseball.

By Rita C Giebink

July 29, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

I think there are a lot of guys in Billings who would love to show Dayton what they’ve got. Maybe a few weeks back with the Mustangs will deflate the ego back to a sportsmanlike level. Maybe they could have to stand on their position on the field and apologize to the fans. Anger management and definately a few extra hours of practice. Let them sweep the stadium after a few games and remind them that they are just humans and not exactly BASEBALL GODS just yet. More like a bunch of petulant boys

By Los

July 29, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

Taking race out of the equation (as it should be. Some of u commenters scare the hell out of me with yr hate), I see a good case for charging him with assault. He threw that baseball hard at the dugout and had to know that someone would be seriously hurt. He intended to hit someone with it, it doesnt matter whether it hit the actual person he intended to hit. The intent transfers. Its is a classic legal concept.

By Lorraina

July 29, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

Lets be serious, atleast one fan gets hit at every baseball game. Castillo had no intentions of harming any fans… The fan is just money hungry… The situation is ridiculous.

By Lorraina

July 29, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

Lets be serious, atleast one fan gets hit at every baseball game. Castillo had no intentions of harming any fans… The fan is just money hungry… The situation is ridiculous.

By redsfan

July 29, 2008 2:21 AM | Link to this

also, it is disgusting how we hold foreign people to a higher standard than we do our own…totally wrong…you should be ashamed of yourself. people threaten lives and brandish weapons at little league games in front of children and don’t get as drastic a punishment as you are calling for this guy…that’s wrong. i think the worst that should happen is the fan sues for damages, and suspensions are handed out, castillo gets an eval and some anger mngmnt. end of story.

By redsfan

July 29, 2008 2:07 AM | Link to this

so, before you start getting all riled up, think about it…stop overreacting….he deserves a suspension during which he can get some anger management training, and a stiff warning…and just because he picked up a bat, c’mon…he was enraged and in a melee…..no one will ever know his intent, so it is pointless to say you think he was going to go into the crowds and hit people.

By redsfan

July 29, 2008 1:58 AM | Link to this

ok let’s clarify one thing….no matter where the kid is from, castillo may need some anger management at best…but deportation and flag waving and turning this into an anti american thing is hypocracy….i will remind you of rob dibble, who did this on several occaisions, one of which did injure a female fan, and another ball thrown a player as he ran to first base. dibble only had a 500 dollar fine for his third offense, which came after he injured the female spectator.

By Traveler

July 29, 2008 1:48 AM | Link to this

What a shame. I was just telling a group of people that I now work with how much I miss and like Dayton, My home for 13 years until 2002.

What I found even more embarrassing than the fights was the fans voices in the videos. Laughing and cheering the fight on. The Dayton Dragons is a place for FAMILY fun. what a life lesson for the children and visitors in the stands.

By wasthere

July 28, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

Another item that I don’t think was mentioned, was that after the teams separated, and were trying to subdue, Castillo was around their dugout on the 1st base side. He had a bat in his hand and started to come into the crowd. He had to be held back by a coach, the bat was eventually taken by a player. However, the look in his eyes I will never forget. Pure anger and hatred. It was evident that he wanted to cause harm. It took several people to hold him back. Scary..

By wasthere

July 28, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this

It was definitely an interesting evening. Just to keep the record straight.. the Peoria second baseman broke his leg during a collision with his own pitcher, Castillo. After the ball got over Castillo’s head, he continued to go after it. He should have let it alone as it was now the second basemen’s to field. The collision between the 2 Peoria players is when the 2nd basemen broke his leg.

By booster1

July 27, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this

I don’t think the whole thing started until it reached a peak when the Chief’s 2nd baseman was taken out and broke his leg ( the way I understand it, he went way out of his way to take him out). Pitcher’s pluking the other team after their team gets plunked is a part of baseball that has been around forever. What this all turned in to is completely wromg and punishment needs to be dealt out to who ever deserves it.

By MikeinMD

July 27, 2008 10:27 PM | Link to this

ecalpha wrote: “I work and live with soldiers and civilians of all colors and creeds and to throw race into this as grounds for action illustrates the bigotry prevalent at home.” Where did anyone throw race into this? All the article said was that Castillo is from the Dominican Republic. That, my friend, hardly qualifies as “throw[ing] race” into this. C’mon folks, before you make silly comments, read the article once o twice!

By Gretchen

July 27, 2008 6:21 PM | Link to this

I live in Peoria and go to Chiefs games regularly. I take my daughters with me to every game. I have never seen any behavior like this before. I obviously believe that bench-clearing brawls deserve appropriate punishments to those who were involved. Sportsmanship is the most important component in all sports. And about Castillo, well, I do not condone his actions whatsoever. He should be punished by law and I hope I never see him in a Chiefs uniform again.

By sayNOtoviolentpeople

July 27, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

Would you bleeding hearts feel different had it been a child he hit in the head? Castillo is plainly a savage violent person. Charge him and send him back where he came from. The manager should be held responsible too. People get arrested for shoving people why not him too. What’s wrong with you people?

By PeterG

July 27, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

OK, let’s all calm down for a minute. Here is the REAL problem: Castillo (black, white, red, whatever) intentionally threw a fast ball at the dugout, and that is not part of the game (so some of you need to stop comparing it to foul balls, hitting a batter, etc). He needs to sit it out and mature a little, and since he actually injured someone, he has to deal with those consequences as well. Fighting happens in every sport, but intentionally trying to seriously injure anyone is inexcusable.

By Julio

July 27, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

I am Dragons fan but the Dragons hit 3 of Peoria’s batters the night before with balls. What the heck! I think Peoria deliberately hit Dragons the next day. Poor sportsmanship. Castillo should be jailed and banned from baseball. Ignorant a*s! I hope the fan who was injured sues Castillo and the Peoria team.

By The Man

July 27, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this

I believe it does not matter where the guy is from, its just not right. He should get the punishment any other black, white or whatever race would get. It should be the same. They should make it illegal to fight at games, if someone throws a punch, that person should be suspended for the rest of the year, of course there would be some rules ans exeptions

By Matt, TN

July 27, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

What if the fan would have died from the throw very possible. What should happen to castillo then. It was assault anyone that does not beleive that throwing a basebal toward people in stands or not is not assault is stupid. We have to pay for our decisions that we make intentional or not. You have to think before you make a CRAZY decision like that. And to make a decision like that tells me this guy has serious emotional problems. I would have never thrown a 90 mph baseball at someone. Punch yes

By ecalpha

July 27, 2008 7:32 AM | Link to this

I live in Dayton but I am currently in Baghdad, Iraq. I keep up with the news at home and have seen several news stories on Armed Forces Network from the Dayton area and the surrounding communities. It was sad to see my hometown in this context, but not the Dragons fault. I work and live with soldiers and civilians of all colors and creeds and to throw race into this as grounds for action illustrates the bigotry prevalent at home. To bad some of you can’t come here and see REAL problems.

By Jimmy

July 27, 2008 3:19 AM | Link to this

i’m not saying the pitcher was right. he was wrong and should be suspended/charged with assault. felony assault? i don’t agree with that-it should be a misdemeanor. otherwise, you need to charge EVERY PITCHER who throws at a hitter with some type of criminal charge. however, while it is true fans should be on the lookout for foul balls, you can’t compare this to a foul ball.

all this athletes should be role model crap is sad though. parents should be role models. athletes just play sports.

By Jimmy

July 27, 2008 3:04 AM | Link to this

‘assault with a deadly weapon’? come on! it is assault for sure, but a baseball as a deadly weapon? does this mean that everytime a pitcher hits a batter this is also assault with a deadly weapon?

does the batter of the foul ball which killed the coach deserve to be charged with manslaughter too? what about any batter who hits a fan with a line drive foul ball?

i doubt this “animal” was going after a fan. he just lacks control (which is why he’s a minor leaguer).

By Jerry

July 27, 2008 1:55 AM | Link to this

Everything would have been fine if Castillo didn’t throw that ball into the dugout and into the stands hitting an innocent fan. What he did was an assault with a deadly weapon. I guess we know why he’s not in the big leagues, he has horrible aim. Which makes me a bit curious, did the ball ricochet off anything or did it directly hit the fan in the stands?

By pmacattack21

July 27, 2008 12:30 AM | Link to this

Everyone needs to just settle down. It’s not like brawls like this haven’t happened before. The main difference is that Castillo did throw a baseball towards the dugout in a fit of rage and struck a fan in the face. He started it and what resulted from the Dragons was self defense and team unity. I’ve played baseball all my life and played high school ball with my teammate Devin Mesoraco. There is no way that any of this blame can be put on the Dragons.

By pmacattack21

July 27, 2008 12:30 AM | Link to this

Everyone needs to just settle down. It’s not like brawls like this haven’t happened before. The main difference is that Castillo did throw a baseball towards the dugout in a fit of rage and struck a fan in the face. He started it and what resulted from the Dragons was self defense and team unity. I’ve played baseball all my life and played high school ball with my teammate Devin Mesoraco. There is no way that any of this blame can be put on the Dragons. I think that if I was a ticket holder

By Republic Rebel Scum

July 27, 2008 12:13 AM | Link to this

Way to go and Kudo’s to the Dayton DragDOWNS. What a way to be role models for the young fans that were in the stadium. Well I guess that I will be spending MY money at the Columbus Clippers games from now on. If this is the way that your going to act then it proves to me that the city of Dayton doesnt’t need a new Baseball team they need some BABY SITTERS. YOU HAVE LOST A FAN FOR SURE

By Lux

July 26, 2008 11:23 PM | Link to this

We have a professional pitcher intentionally throwing a ball at another person. Blaming the fan who was hit for “not being ready” for it is possibly the most irresponsible excuse I’ve seen. Fans shouldn’t be expected to prepare for that sort of thing during a brawl, when the action is all over the field. Would you expect it?

No, usually brawls only involve melee. You would be ready for it when there’s a pitch and a subsequent foul ball, or a pickoff, but this wasn’t predictable at all.

By By JSS

July 26, 2008 8:56 PM | Link to this

I was at the game with my kids (twin 6 year olds). I was a bit uncomfortable with the situation. This was not a typical push-shove brawl… it was vicious. The posted video doesn’t really do it justice. There were multiple pockets of fighting - and extremely hard blows were being landed. Castillo was clearly out of control on multiple levels… he should be released and deported - no 2nd chance for this behavior. The manager argument wasn’t such a big deal - even the shove - it was all Castillo.

By John L Beach

July 26, 2008 8:47 PM | Link to this

That Brawl with the Dayton Dragons the other night was uncalled for. It jut look like that they were ust looking to cause trouble. But Im hopping that the people that got hurt are ok. Baseball shouldn’t have fighting in it. Take care John Beach

By knowitall

July 26, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this

We have enough American criminals, we don’t NEED MORE from OTHER countries.

Deport him and set an example with him. He obviously didn’t appreciate the opportunity this country gave him…..give it to someone who DESERVES it.

By gladtobegone

July 26, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this

i NO LONGERRESIDE IN dAYTON BUT i WILL TELL YOU THAT WHERE i LIVE NOW IS RACIST. dAYTON HAS ALL WALKS OF LIFE AND JUST BECAUSE A FEW BASEBALL FANS PROBABLY WHITE WANNA GET STUPID AND SAY DUMB THINGS DOES NOT MEAN DAYTON IS A RACIST PLACE MOST PEOPLE IN DAYTON ARE NOT.

By knowitall

July 26, 2008 7:39 PM | Link to this

Immigrants in this country who abuse their visas by committing crimes should be AUTOMATICALLY deported - they don’t DESERVE a SECOND CHANCE to disrespect our citizens and defy our laws.

I don’t care WHO they are or WHAT they do for a living.

By Charles

July 26, 2008 7:30 PM | Link to this

BTW, the Dragons have just as many if not more players from the DR, so to all you racists saying this 3rd world trash should rot in hell in his trashy country, you’re rooting for more of that “trash” on your own Dayton team.. these players are no different than American players. This incident just gives the racists an excuse to say these things because a Dominican happened to throw the ball. Right the fact that he has more melanin in his skin is the reason he’s trash.. Pathetic Dayton……

By East Coast

July 26, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this

About racism in Ohio, get real. Racism is an unfortunate part of life all over the world. I’ve seen more than my fair share of it coming from blacks and hispanics toward white people. This mess of a baseball game was a racial incident between hispanics and blacks. PS Just watch hispanics referee a youth soccer game between whites and hispanics. You get the picture real fast.

By Charles

July 26, 2008 7:26 PM | Link to this

Is Dayton really this stupid and racist? Castillo should go to prison for attempting to assault with a deadly weapon, whether it was a baseball player or not is irreverent. He had intent, that is obvious. And he wasn’t done after he threw the ball, he then picked up a bat and was restrained.

By dragonflies12

July 26, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this

Everyone says that he had no intent on hurting the fan, which is true, BUT he was trying to hit a DRAGONS player with the ball, that is why he threw it towards the dugout and ending up hitting the fan! He should be charged with assault with a deadly weapon and his visa revoked and sent back to the Domican Republic.

By LakelandGuy

July 26, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this

You guys are terrible….I didn’t know Ohio was such a racist place. The fan is released from the hospital without any major injuries. Sure, it was stupid to throw a ball at the opposing dugout. But the kid is twenty years old, he didn’t cause any major damage, and he has a clean record. Give him a break. Are you really going to expect a twenty year old kid in a bench clearing brawl to think and act like an adult when even most adults wouldn’t be able to act as such in this situation?

By East Coast

July 26, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this

Apparently from reading the article and the comments I would have to say the umpire is responsible for letting this thing get out of hand. He had the authority to call it off before it got out of hand. The umpire should be banned from taking the field again, but that won’t happen unless he’s white.

By Duke

July 26, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

I cannot believe the ignorance of some of the people who have posted on this subject. This pitcher knowingly and with malice intended, threw a baseball and one he can throw over 90 MPH, to intentially harm another player. Instead he missed and hit a fan. I find it incredible the Cub’s organization has not released or suspended this player for his behavior. Additionally, he deserves his jail sentence (somewhere around 1-3 years worth) and deportation out of America.

By Friend of Justin

July 26, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

spics & niggers

what do you expect?

By Rightfield

July 26, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

He should be fired from the organization and sent to jail then deported! He’s not a citizen of this country, send his tail back and let him rot in the Dominican Republic.

By FRO

July 26, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

As an adult, castillo should be responsible for his own actions. It’s unfortunate that people have the ability to play a sport but waste it on the inability to maintain composure. Shame on him for disrespecting his team, our team, the fans and the game in general!

By OB

July 26, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

Ray Chapman, Clevland Indians— killed by a pitch to the head. Also the Rockies minor league 1st base coach was killed after being hit with a foul ball.

If you throw a ball 90mph like that idiot did, it is potentially deadly weapon- it’s like throwing a knife at somone.

This animal should be behind bars for at least a few months.

By Big D

July 26, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

Regardless of what happens in court his baseball career is over. He violated the code of ethics of baseball and no team will touch him. But for someone to say what he did was criminal is assinine. What he did was wrong in all ways but not criminal. So you got hit with a ball. Cry me a river. Wonder how long it will take for you to try to sue the cubs and Peoria. Thats the real reason for all this. Next game you go to a game I hope you wear a foul ball right in the mouth.

By Big D

July 26, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

What he did was wrong in every way but in no way was it assault with a deadly weapon. He violated every unwritten rule of baseball by throwing a ball at someone during a brawl. But take a look at past brawls helmets, bats, balls have been used as weapons in the past. As a pitcher you have the obligation to protect your teammates. When Dayton wanted to start hitting the Peoria hitters then Julio has no other choice but to return the action.

By BB

July 26, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

Yer jus prejidist racist peple hu hate peple of culler.

By where is dayton

July 26, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

lets face it. libs are a joke

By itaylor

July 26, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

Castillo shouldn’t be charged, but Peoria should sack him. He must be a pretty lousy pitcher if a ball he’s aimed at the dugout ends up hitting a fan!

By tom chittum

July 26, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

blacks.

By Jesse

July 26, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

The guy shouldn’t have thrown the ball into the direction of the dugout, I’m not defending that. Do I think he should be thrown in jail, that’s to be determined. I don’t think he should be kicked out of the country, we have people who murder people that don’t get punished as much. This offense is a little less severe than that. If you think that baseball should copy hockey, think about this. In baseball, the team up to bat can only have a max of 4 players on the field. 4 against 9?

By Marcia

July 26, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

I am a public school teacher and was very displeased with the display of extremely poor sportsmanship. Kids act as their role models do. Adults are supposed to show how to act, not copy pubescent reactionary behavior. School staff members are held personally responsible for the safety of students. If we don’t, we could very likely be fired, sued ,and/or lose our teaching license. I do not go to ballgames to see adults act like hotheaded middle school students.

By Sherlock Holmes

July 26, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

I think it all goes back to Tony Capizzi. He’s the Guy that started all this, knowing full well all we’re dealing with here is a ” bunch of brats ” and “men without jobs”. Let Tony adjudicate this mess. Nobody cares anyway.

By ZamboniDave

July 26, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

Baseball should have copied hockey long ago in these issues. Anyone leaving the bench to join in is outtah biddness, gone, for at least the next game. The ref’s have enough to deal with the players on the field. Adding more knuckleheads to the brawl is going to seriously injure or worse… eventually.

By kb24

July 26, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

have fun in the pen for 8 years yo…

By Someone

July 26, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

Personally, I’m sick of imported athletes. I LIKE Americans. This pitcher is a belligerent who should be drop-kicked back to wherever he came from.

By stalin

July 26, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

This is obama fault. What is he doing in europe with kind of thing going in dayton. SHAME!

By ohio buckeye

July 26, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

MY CONCERN IS THAT THE COURTS LET THIS GO WITH A SLAP ON THE WRIST AS THEY USUALLY DO. HE SHOULD BE SENT TO JAIL, THEN DEPORTED, AS A PRO HIS THROW IS THE SAME AS ANY LETHAL WEAPOND

By jerry

July 26, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

What I think should happen to Castillo is that he’s given a nice long suspension and a little bit of jailtime. His shot an an mlb career might be over, mlb teams notice crazy behavior, which is likely to repeat.

what will probably happen is: a courtroom trial, an anger management course, (in Dominican) and becoming a free agent once he’s released. I don’t know if you kick a guy out of the country,. 1 of 5 prisoners are illegal aliens being kept here on our dime. the fan will sue and get nothing

By Martin

July 26, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

Who says free Castillo? I was at the game and all the opinions on-line about who started the fight, was it self defense,or was it same as a foul ball?
1)Castillo started the braul by taking matters into his own hands, he intentionally pitched at other players for revenge. 2)Watch the video, nothing happened until Castillo intentionally throws the ball at the dug out because he wanted to hurt someone! 3) No,it is not same as a foul ball because this was a Semi-Pro player aiming at a target

By Peorian

July 26, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this

This could hav been prevented entirely if the umps had stepped up after each pitcher hit a batter and warned the benches. Next hit batter should have been immediate ejections…

I have not been able to find out how the guy’s leg got broke. WTH happened there?

By John

July 26, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this

There is a quote by someone who I can’t remember that goes, “Sports does not build character, it reveals it…” No truer words have been spoken..enough said.

By drSidney

July 26, 2008 7:54 AM | Link to this

Jail is what he earned when he willfully struck another period. Don’t know who or why the brawl started but it is not relevant to the assault charge. These arguments about boys will be boys, they do it in other countries,it was just like a fowl ball and being upset about the Dragons it all sounds like when my 8 year old hit her sister and had 5 excuses as to why. These are grown ups in the USA, you don’t behave like a bully. Castillo should be freed after he serves time and deported.

By RS

July 26, 2008 7:54 AM | Link to this

Babies indeed. 5th/3rd Field has perhaps seen more than its share of injuries to fans from balls as well as bat shards (even falls on the slick concourse). Some of minimal consequence however one bloody incident resulted in permanent impairment and Ohioans have not so cavalierly forgotten a young girl killed by a Hockey Puck in Columbus or the bloody mess in the stands along the 5th/3rd field,3rd base foul line a few years ago. Ticket diclaimers shouldn’t be a license for tne neglect of safety

By cub fan

July 26, 2008 7:43 AM | Link to this

yea truth your a real fan to sit and say teams suck get hold on life to idiot you should be deported right alng with him what a jerk GO CUBS

By 3rd world trash

July 26, 2008 6:58 AM | Link to this

Typical violence instigated by 3rd world trash……this is the NORM in latin American sports……send this low class “immigrant” back to the 3rd world where he belongs.

What a way to teach children about sportsmanship, using an illiterate, violence prone “immigrant” as a role model…….despicable.

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By taylorhood

July 26, 2008 5:16 AM | Link to this

Are you idiots for real? Comparing what Castillo did to hitting a foul ball into the stands? He threw the ball with malice, intending to hurt somebody, not caring or indifferent to who. If you compared it to shooting a gun into a crowd and hitting somebody, you might be closer to the truth, he could have killed somebody. He should be banned from baseball for life AND serve a prison sentence. I am a lifelong Cubs fan and can never condone what was done even by a Cubs player.

By john null

July 26, 2008 2:43 AM | Link to this

TEAMS FIGHTING IN SPORTS HAVE HAPPENED FOREVER AND ALWAYS WILL . FANS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE INVOLVED EITHER AGAINST THE PLAYERS OR THE PLAYERS AGAINST THE FANS THIS , CHANGES THE WHOLE BALLGAME PUN INTENDED . IF THE FAN HAS NO LASTING INJURIES FROM THIS , I WOULD LET THE LEAUGE TAKE CARE OF THE PENALTIES IF THE FAN HAS LASTING INJURIES IT HAS TO GO TO COURT , AND LET THE COURTS FIGURE IT OUT . IF THE DRAGONS ARE SMART I WOULD GIVE THE FAN SEASON TICKETS FOR LIFE FREE FOOD AND PARKING . LAW SUIT

By Crush

July 26, 2008 2:31 AM | Link to this

“He was not trying to throw the ball into the stands and hit a fan.”

Does a drunk driver try to hit people when he causes a accident? Same rules apply to this idiot who had to throw a ball at someone.

I’m not a baseball fan but I like a good fight and anytime you have to use a weapon it shows what kind of wimp you are. All they need to focus on is playing baseball and leave the contact for the real sports!

By Brad

July 26, 2008 2:26 AM | Link to this

The beaner should be sespened for his actions. The players were already on the field so they didnt sworm the pitcher. The beaner wanted to hurt someone or else he wouldnt have thrown the ball at all!!!! The league started the game again not the dragon staff. I dont know why butthey made the call and the do what they say!!!! Castillo should be put in jail.(or sent back to his country) lol

By Brad

July 26, 2008 2:26 AM | Link to this

The beaner should be sespened for his actions. The players were already on the field so they didnt sworm the pitcher. The beaner wanted to hurt someone or else he wouldnt have thrown the ball at all!!!! The league started the game again not the dragon staff. I dont know why butthey made the call and the do what they say!!!! Castillo should be put in jail.(or sent back to his country) lol

By qrb912

July 26, 2008 1:51 AM | Link to this

A pitcher who can throw hard enough to paly as a por or a semi-pro knows tat he throws hard enough to kill someone. The had the worst intent when he threw that ball. I think the charges are right on the money. I hope they stand and he gets the harshest sentence that can give him.

By riverat

July 26, 2008 1:43 AM | Link to this

Ask Tony Cappizzi, he brought the teem & unos here from Chicago.

By Shawn

July 26, 2008 1:41 AM | Link to this

First let’s get this thing straight. Boys will be boys and sometimes boys fight. Period. This is nothing new, it happens alot actually.

The thing that makes this different is that the fan was smacked in the head with a ball thrown by a professional pitcher.

I don’t think the young pitcher intentionally let it fly into the stands. Should he be punished by the courts, probably. If I were him, I’d be more worried about if my career is over or not though.

By ohiocop

July 26, 2008 1:35 AM | Link to this

2903.11 Felonious assault. (A) No person shall knowingly do either of the following: (1) Cause serious physical harm to another or to another’s unborn; (2) Cause or attempt to cause physical harm to another or to another’s unborn by means of a deadly weapon or dangerous ordnance. (A) “Deadly weapon” means any instrument, device, or thing capable of inflicting death, and designed or specially adapted for use as a weapon, or possessed, carried, or used as a weapon. I am sure a 80-90mph baseball to the head could be a dangerous weapon, and the act of throwing it at someone shows intent to harm

By Tim

July 26, 2008 1:12 AM | Link to this

RNG: I am sorry you are comparing this incident to Pete Rose. I am not able to make the intellectual leap from a 21 year old kid defending his position with an ill advised throw to a 60 year old “could be Hall of Famer” betting on his own team. What is your point?

This is a serious charge against Mr Castillo and requires serious debate.

By Big D

July 26, 2008 1:06 AM | Link to this

Julio should be sent back to the Dominican and released from the cubs organization, but arrested and charged with assualt? Come on. He was not trying to throw the ball into the stands and hit a fan. What’s next are we going to arrest someone who hits a foul ball into the stands and strikes a fan? You went to a baseball game and got hit with a ball big deal. I never knew there was such little babies in Ohio. Get over it.

By RNG

July 26, 2008 12:49 AM | Link to this

Castillo did nothing wrong. FREE CASTILLIO !!!

Pete Rose did nothing wrong either. LET PETE IN THE HALL OF FAME !!!

Two different men, same bias against them.

By george

July 26, 2008 12:30 AM | Link to this

Is it safe to call Castillo a beaner or is there no humor left in the world?

By Tim

July 26, 2008 12:28 AM | Link to this

CFNeumann: If I was Counselor Heck I would be very concerned about presentation of the first base video. Not that it provides an excuse for Mr. Castillo’s actions, but it will demonstrate that the Dragons were charging and certainly discredits the notion that “intent” was felonious in nature. I should hope that I get struck by a foul ball at my next my local high school game,so I might bankrupt the schoolboard. I am Kidding - they are already bankrupt…..so this is about $?$….

By CFNeumann

July 26, 2008 12:08 AM | Link to this

Tim:

Thank you for pointing the part about the Dragons coming onto the field en masse. It is purely self defense on the part of Castillo!!!

FREE CASTILLO!!!

For those that cannot picture it, try this scenario:

you are walking down the street (like around third downtown, which the Dragons probably manifested from) and a gang all of a sudden run towards you. What is your first reaction if you have something in your hands???

By deb

July 26, 2008 12:02 AM | Link to this

I cannot believe the few comments that I read…comparing a foul ball hit during the game by a batter & the rocket that Julio Castillo throw that was probably aimed at a Dragon player and darted into the stands are like comparing apples to oranges. I was happy to read & see the video that Julio is held on 50K bond & his passport had to be submitted to the courts. I also feel that the parent teams did the right thing in not having the pitchers play in the outfield where they could be injured.

By Tim

July 25, 2008 11:55 PM | Link to this

I first saw the video of the Dayton Dragons and Peoria Chiefs on Friday morning. At first I was dismayed by Carmelo Martinez shoving Donnie Scott. Then I was disappointed in the lack of restraint exhibited by both team managers. As I watched the video again, it became clear that the umpire crew were aware that the Dragons were coming onto the field – and coming fast in numbers. That brief moment of separation from the umpire crew is what allowed Carmelo Martinez to push Donnie Scott. That moment should have never occurred. Once it did – the Dragons were given carte blanche to charge the field.

I was most appalled by the aggressive nature of the Dragons and their obvious intent to inflict harm on a person (Julio Castillo) by charging out of their dugout. Julio Castillo was defending himself and his teammates against the aggressive nature of the Dragons and their charge from the dugout. Does anyone seriously believe the Dragons were charging Mr. Castillo because he threw a ball into the stands? Julio was defending himself. Obviously the result of that ill fated throw has yet to be determined.

It is disappointing that Mr. Castillo chose to direct his 21 year old testosterone level toward an ill timed decision; however, it is even sadder that the Dayton Dragons lacked the professional conduct to cancel the game on Thursday evening and allow cooler heads to prevail.

I do not know Counselor Heck; I am not an attorney; nor am I a citizen of the state of Ohio. I do not have access to the fan’s video camera that supposedly filmed the incident from behind the first base dugout. But I do know that Thursday evenings incident reflects poorly on this country’s national sport, on Dayton Ohio, and on Montgomery County.

Do any of you believe this incident is worthy of felonious assault?

FREE CASTILLO

By baseball fan

July 25, 2008 11:50 PM | Link to this

To Tao and everyone else:

If you have played baseball and are a true fan of every aspect of the game, then you need to understand that homeplate belongs to the pitcher. If a pitcher needs to hit a batter for the reasons: (1) to get him to stop crowding or (2) to protect his teammates and his team image, then it is justified. That is just old time baseball, and playing the game in the right way. As for throwing a ball into a crowd, that is a sissy way to behave, and he should be suspended for

By the truth

July 25, 2008 11:38 PM | Link to this

I think Barack Obama should ask Julio Castillo to be his VP running mate.

Obama/Castillo in 2008!

VOTE OBAMA/CASTILLO!!!!!!

By CFNeumann

July 25, 2008 11:33 PM | Link to this

gregb, john f had a point. However, I had to reach way into what he was saying to extrapolate the point along with watching the video clip of some mother saying that their child can get hurt at a baseball game.

You dont go to any sporting event and not PAY ATTENTION.

tara, Castillo used a weapon. Also, he was not that good of a pitcher. The Chiefs brought up 3 players from a lower league today and they will be on the field @ Wrigley next Tuesday when I get to go watch them there :D

By the truth

July 25, 2008 11:31 PM | Link to this

Tara:

You’re right …FREE CASTILLO! He has been wronged! This is a miscarriage of JUSTICE! FREE CASTILLO!!!!

By gregb

July 25, 2008 11:14 PM | Link to this

Hey John F., what is with your hatred toward children. I’ll assume you are impotent and jealous, loser.

By Tara

July 25, 2008 11:11 PM | Link to this

As far as I am concerned about the Dragons brawl, it is ridiculous to have Castillo charged and behind bars! If it had been a foul ball that hit the fan in question, nothing would have been said.

What made me angry about the situation was both team’s owners revoking the immediate suspensions because they did not want their pitchers in the outfield for the remainder but were ok to suspend the following day.

All about the money!

Free Castillo!

By the truth

July 25, 2008 11:06 PM | Link to this

Yeah …you’re right …the Brewers suck because they got beat by the Astros tonight. Even though they just went 7-0 on their road trip to SF and St. Louis, you wad. Oh, by the way, the Cubs lost earlier today and the Brewers remain only ONE GAME behind them.

As always, Chicago will “Cub it up” like they always do. Losers.

The Reds?! Good lord, don’t even get me started on those stokes.

By Tao

July 25, 2008 11:03 PM | Link to this

I’m a blue collar father of two. I enjoy baseball. I don’t enjoy these fights. If my son or my daughter would like to get involved in sports. I would like them to learn valueable lessons from sports. Things like team work and sportsmanship. Not things like outbursts of anger, loss of self control, or lack of considerations for other people around them. If these players cannot learn to act like GOOD role models and GOOD sportsman, maybe next year they can play every game in front of empty stands.

By CFNeumann

July 25, 2008 11:00 PM | Link to this

Brewers, eh? The last I checked they got their butt kicked IN MILWAUKEE by the Asstros tonight. I didn’t know the Astros, being as lowly as they are, could possibly beat a team of the stature of the Brewers!!

By the way, why were you not watching them if they are your favorites? Hmmm, just as I suspected …

BTM, I will enjoy my CBOE seats @ Wrigley watching the Chiefs on Tuesday :D

By the truth

July 25, 2008 10:52 PM | Link to this

Who cares? The players on both teams are worthless career minor league losers. Come to think of it, both teams are associated with loser MLB teams for that matter. The Cubs and the Reds suck.

GO BREWERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Tao

July 25, 2008 10:50 PM | Link to this

To anyone who thinks any different, here’s the bottom line. If you hit someone, whether it be with your own hand or a ball, you are responsible for your own actions. Instigated or not. Playing baseball, these people are role models for our children. Some of which, are future MLB players. That would put them in front of the nation. If these people cannot realize the responsibility of their postions, which comes with their fat paychecks, the should have it taken away.

By Tao

July 25, 2008 10:50 PM | Link to this

To anyone who thinks any different, here’s the bottom line. If you hit someone, whether it be with your own hand or a ball, you are responsible for your own actions. Instigated or not. Playing baseball, these people are role models for our children. Some of which, are future MLB players. That would put them in front of the nation. If these people cannot realize the responsibility of their postions, which comes with their fat paychecks, the should have it taken away.

By CFNeumann

July 25, 2008 10:48 PM | Link to this

Sorry, it was MiLB.com (not MLB.com) that has the WDTN video clip slamming Scott at the beginning of the confrontation.

By Jim

July 25, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this

The Peoria manager is responsible for ALL of this. If he does his job and leaves the dugout to settle down the pitcher - nothing occurs. The strange thing is that he is an interim manager, subbing for Ryne Sandberg. His suspension will mean nothing. He ignited the incident, is responsible for everything that occurred, and will get off without any penalty. I was at the game, just behind the Peoria dugout, the Dragons were not angels, but the Peoria manager is the true culprit here.

By CFNeumann

July 25, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this

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By CFNeumann

July 25, 2008 10:31 PM | Link to this

Also, something to think about:

If Castillo was intentionally throwing the ball at the dugout, but instead couldn’t hit what he was aiming for and threw it in the stands instead, how could he have possibly and intentionally beaned the Dragons player?

By CFNeumann

July 25, 2008 10:28 PM | Link to this

It was Manager Scott’s fault that any of this started. Listen to the uncut WDTN video on MLB.com to hear about this festering from last year and that Scott is a whiny baby. Gee, that sounds like it could also be Tony Stewart, LOL.

By CFNeumann

July 25, 2008 10:27 PM | Link to this

It was Coach Scott’s fault that any of this started. Listen to the uncut WDTN video on MLB.com to hear about this festering from last year and that Scott is a whiny baby. Gee, that sounds like it could also be Tony Stewart, LOL.

By Sunshine

July 25, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this

I think the player should be banned from ever playing baseball again. He obviously can’t control his anger or his behavior and an innocent got hurt. I pray that the fan is okay.

By miles

July 25, 2008 10:03 PM | Link to this

notsurprised: You have got to be kidding me. I am willing to bet you have been to less than 3 professional sporting events in your life and that they were not big time events. Sports has its bad people and moments, but what doesn’t? Before you go and call out all of professional sports you need to actually know something. Go get a life

By MC

July 25, 2008 9:10 PM | Link to this

I have heard of a movement to deport Julio Castillo, the player who threw the baseball and hit a fan. I would like to add my name to the list that wants him exported. Please pass on info to miltoncombs@yahoo.com

By matt

July 25, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this

Maybe the umpires should have stepped in and warned both sides after the 2nd batter on the inning was hit. Its partially their fault as well for not controlling the game.

By Heather

July 25, 2008 8:55 PM | Link to this

I was SHOCKED to see the video of the throw their pitcher sent that hit a fan. That ball can be a deadly weapon. People have DIED from ACCIDENTAL baseballs and hockey pucks to the head, so you know if a TRAINED athlete PURPOSELY launches a ball at someone, it could kill them. He needs to be thrown out of the league all together,charged with assault,and permanently stripped of all rights to be in America. He doesnt deserve to be in our country,they should return his ignorant self to the Dominican

By Jim

July 25, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this

As a newcomer to Dayton and Dragons games I must make several observations having sat and watched the debacle Thursday night. 1.I have the utmost respect for the EMTs, but Thursday night they walked onto the field in slow motion. 2. Why isn’t there access for an ambulance to get on the field?
3. Where was Dayton’s finest? I have never been to a professional sporting event where there was a police presence. Security Thursday was senior citizens in red shirts on top of the Peoria dugout.

By The Sports Hater

July 25, 2008 8:51 PM | Link to this

This just proves that ALL sports fans are idiots.

By The Sports Hater

July 25, 2008 8:50 PM | Link to this

This just proves that ALL sports fans are a******s.

By Lew

July 25, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this

Why are there political posts on here?

By Joe

July 25, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this

Well, you know the pro-Obama posts arent coming from people in Dayton… These are the people who created the Gay Bomb…

By The Waynesvillian

July 25, 2008 7:55 PM | Link to this

It’s not surprising that these violent monkeys are affiliated with the Cubs organization. Thats just the way the Cubs roll.

By Jack Meyhoffer

July 25, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this

Obama says that the two teams should sit down and talk through their differences. Just like when Chamberlain talked with Hitler and was able to get everything smoothed over and prevent WWII, right libs?

By Jack Meyhoffer

July 25, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this

Obama says that the two teams should sit down and talk through their differences. Just like when Chamberlain talked with Hitler and was able to get everything smoothed over and prevent WWII, right libs?

By Jack Meyhoffer

July 25, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this

Obama says that the two teams should sit down and talk through their differences. Just like when Chamberlain talked with Hitler and was able to get everything smoothed over and prevent WWII, right libs?

By too funny

July 25, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this

former minor leaguer…….

price of a dayton dragons game: $20

price of a ‘former minor leaguer’ defending how SMART jocks are by using run-on sentences and misspellings in their defense: PRICELESS !!!

FORMER MINOR LEAGUER WROTE: “I hate to inform that person but most jocks are not dumb and are pretty smart people. I have seen my far share of brawls…”

I assume that though you are a former minor leaguer…you were not an Enlish major either, were you…..

By pervin

July 25, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this

Dan Kennedy, your an idiot…players fight, the league makes a dumb decision and you blame it on Dragons management. We don’t need fair weather fans like you. I’ll buy your set of tickets if the price is right. let me know.

By Gary

July 25, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this

I Personally feel as ex law enforcement that a professional ball player that intentionally throws a ball, bat, or other deadly object at anyone should be charged with assault with a deadly weapon. As professionals they are well aware of what these objects can do since many have been on the receiving end or witnessed such acts before. A professional, who it is determined to have committed such an act, should be banned from the game for LIFE by the baseball league management.

By DragonFanMom

July 25, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this

We were there with our two kids, 6 & 9, who were crying, worried Dragons were hurt. Yes, it was upsetting and I watched the crowd to see if we should leave; but the field was cleared quickly, and by staying we could explain that sometimes even adults act immaturely,gave them a chance to see that adults move on and can get past their anger. Not a bad lesson learned! I wish half the adults I work with knew it! But that doesn’t mean I didn’t know exactly where the nearest exit gate was!

By GaryJ

July 25, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this

It’s not that uncommon for a shoving match start at a ball game, you have a group of highly competetive individuals and they lose composure. The brawl it’s self is really a non-issue.

The act that I feel should be dealt with harshly, is the ball throwing incident. The video shows that it was an intentional act, whether the throw was meant for players or not. A profesional baseball pitcher can throw a ball hard enough to kill a human. Julio Castillo should do prison time for felony assault

By notsurprised

July 25, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this

Pro athletes these days are nothing but a bunch of thugs and criminals, why would one expect any different from pro “wannabes”? They screw up over and over and over and only get their hands smacked. Why? Cause it’s all about money. As long as the thugs are making the owners millions, they could care less. Pro sports are a joke, and it trickles down.

By CarlyFarley

July 25, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this

I just am proud to be able to be be 100’s of miles away and see the name of my home town listed on Drudge Report for any reason that proves people are still having some fun. Play on Daytonians!

By Hate Baseball

July 25, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

Only an elitist arrogant fan base would distort stupidity into a political issue.

By dragonflies12

July 25, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this

I was there as well. It was uncalled for Castillo to hit the Dragon’s player in the head. And In the dragon’s defense, 3 players from the Chiefs collided and caused the broken leg. As for the fight..It was unsportsmen for the coaches to get out of hand, and down right wrong for Castillo to throw the pitch into the dugout! I do blame the UMPS for not getting things under control, but all team members are to blame for not conducting in professional manor and know better! Exciting game tho!

By Steve

July 25, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this

You can tell that this was on the Drudge Report -the comments bring in Obama, and vilify people who are against the Bush Admin., along with tons of racism and ignorance spilling out.

By racefanaz

July 25, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

FROM Darrin: “Some bad choices carry life-long consequences.” you know it, like voting for obama

By walter

July 25, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

Peoria’s coach escalated the fight into a free for all. He also should face charges. It is not surprising that the Cubs employ such people. Martinez should be in trouble for his actions. He came across the field for Scott.

By SO AN SO

July 25, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this

SEND CASTILLO BACK TO DOMINION REPUBLIC, MAYBE HIS PLAYING ETHICS ARE OK THERE!! BASEBALL BEEN VERY VERY TO ME.

WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL AMERICAN BORN PLAYERS THAT COULD BE PLAYING, I KNOW WE HAVE ENOUGH TALENT TO ACCOMPOLISH THAT.

BOTTOM LINE I GUESS THEY ARE ALL LITTLE BOYS!

By SO AN SO

July 25, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this

SEND CASTILLO BACK TO DOMINION REPUBLIC, MAYBE HIS PLAYING ETHICS ARE OK THERE!! BASEBALL BEEN VERY VERY TO ME.

WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL AMERICAN BORN PLAYERS THAT COULD BE PLAYING, I KNOW WE HAVE ENOUGH TALENT TO ACCOMPOLISH THAT.

BOTTOM LINE I GUESS THEY ARE ALL LITTLE BOYS!

By SO AN SO

July 25, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this

SEND CASTILLO BACK TO DOMINION REPUBLIC, MAYBE HIS PLAYING ETHICS ARE OK THERE!! BASEBALL BEEN VERY VERY TO ME.

WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL AMERICAN BORN PLAYERS THAT COULD BE PLAYING, I KNOW WE HAVE ENOUGH TALENT TO ACCOMPOLISH THAT.

BOTTOM LINE I GUESS THEY ARE ALL LITTLE BOYS!

By SlouchingtowardBoulder

July 25, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this

I truly believe that George Bush was secretly involved and this whole “fight” was a ruse manufactured by Karl Rove. Obama “the Messiah” will deliver us from this type of chicanery when he becomes President of the World.

By SlouchingtowardBoulder

July 25, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this

I truly believe that George Bush was secretly involved and this whole “fight” was a ruse manufactured by Karl Rove. Obama “the Messiah” will deliver us from this type of chicanery when he becomes President of the World.

By bob

July 25, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

When the Mexicans and Blacks started being the majority players, this crap started happening all the time. Nothing but thugs play baseball now.

By bob

July 25, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

When the Mexicans and Blacks started being the majority players, this crap started happening all the time. Nothing but thugs play baseball now.

By brassman

July 25, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

You call that a brawl? I’ve seen more action from women’s mud wrestling. The SISSY Castillo started the whole incident and should get the boot…forever!

Still a GAME girls…what MORONS!

By former minor leaguer

July 25, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

I read some of the comments and for the most part I like what I read, but some people are way to negative towards the athletes. I read one persons comments calling them dumb jocks. I hate to inform that person but most jocks are not dumb and are pretty smart people. I have seen my far share of brawls and I have to say that was the worst. No batter should ever be hit in the head with a pitch. if your sending a message you have to go for the hip or back…not the head…that was wrong.

By Mariaaa!!!

July 25, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

Don’t forget about the bat that left the hands of one at bat Peoria player, went sailing toward the Peoria dugout, and nearly took out two little kids in the first row behind the dugout.

By DaytonDragonFan

July 25, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

And what about the Peoria player, Gian Guzman (how badly is his leg broken, did it require surgery, will he be able to play again, is his career ended)?? We’ve focused on what happened and left out people that it happened to!!

By John Kraft

July 25, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

I recall a game at Cashman Field in Las Vegas a few seasons ago when 19 members of the visiting Portland Beavers were suspended after going into the stands after a fan whose behavior they found unacceptable. As for this brawl, folks seem to forget that Castillo is 20 years old. He started in pro ball with the Cubs in the rookie Arizona League at age 17. Maybe the answer is to keep these “barely matured” youngsters out of a pro contract until age 18.

By DaytonDragonFan

July 25, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

And what about the Peoria player, Gian Guzman (how badly is his leg broken, did it require surgery, will he be able to play again, is his career ended)?? We’ve focused on what happened and left out people that it happened to!!

By Mike - Texas

July 25, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

Big Mike…. I think you got it right. Too funny

By DaytonDragonsFan

July 25, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

We were at the game last night too and it is the first time in the 7 yrs that we’ve been attending games that we have EVER witnessed such a scene. My feelings are that it was an unfortunate incident, and, also unfortunately, part of the game; but certainly not a usual happening. What upsets me more is that all the negative hype hits the media with not one mention of the condition of Zack Cozart (is he hospitalized, suffering a concussion, just OK, or what?) (outta room)

By painfultruth

July 25, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

Typical actions of dumb jocks. Case closed. These guys are in sports because they are good at a specific physical activity. Look at the Bengals and the NFL to see how stupid jocks can make a lot of money. Most don’t have the brains of a brick…

By Hillary

July 25, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

Barack Obama will mediate the peace between Dayton and Peoria.

By Edy

July 25, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

Oh Please! The fans love it when the coaches have words and kick dirt around but when a player uses a ball and bat as a weapon then he deserves to be where he is now- in jail. And just because kids were there does not warrant ever going to another game. The pitcher should have been removed the 1st time he hit someone. He was out of control but as long as no one is injured let the dust swirl a little. Otherwise it’s the same boring game. Send the “wild man” back to his country.

By Bill

July 25, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

I agree in part with the sentiment that you shouldn’t shelter your children from the world, but come on… have you watched the video? This is not a minor incident. This is the baseball equivalent of a bar brawl and people were hurt, including a fan. There are children of all ages in those stands who not only watched this, but were intentionally put in harm’s way. This is not boys being rowdy. It was completely out of hand. There should be stiff penalties for everyone involved.

By Big Mike

July 25, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this

Has to Be Bush’s Fault

By John F

July 25, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

To all of the self-righteous blowhards on here- GET OVER IT! It’s baseball, and fights happen. If your so worried about your little spoiled porkers, leave them at home. This is the reason that I don’t go to Dragons games, and never will… The judge is another blowhard who is just trying to make a name for himself because the fight received national attention. No wonder that this town is dying with all of the whining that goes on over trivial matters.

By Martha

July 25, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

Re: Fredo’s “Decaython” comments. Puleeze. Being in Dayton had nothing to do with anything and I doubt that anyone from Dayton was even involved. It could have happened in Peoria. It was between the ballplayers. Just bad luck that it was here. It’s no reflection on the city any way, any how.

By Fredo

July 25, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Just another national disgrace for Dayton, Ohio. It’s a dying city and maybe this will be the final blow to just let this crummy town fade away ….

By Martha

July 25, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

I am so glad that I was never sheltered from the unwholesomes. It took seeing bad things to make me understand how different good and bad can be - and the shadings in between. And I don’t care who threw the first punch - I still expect ball players to be gentlemen and sportsmen on the field. It may be a lofty ideal but not one I’m ready to abandon after a lifetime watching Major League Baseball.

By Mickmten

July 25, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

OK, the pitcher might be finding himself in another farm system pretty soon. But how’s this - let’s say the judge sentences him to pitch five whole innings for the Cubs? That would really ensure that the parent organization takes control of their minor team.

By Definite Dragons Fan

July 25, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

WOW! What a scene! However - the Chief’s manager DID do the first shove. But that’s like “he said, she said”. When people are ticked off - they are not gonna care that there are others watching them (even children). I feel really bad for the dude that got hit with the ball! Hope he’s OK. Don’t care much about Castillo … he made his own team look bad.

By sports loving Mom

July 25, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

I agree with Ex-Coach…parents need to use real world events as “teaching moments”. As a child I was very sheltered and was “smacked in the face” by reality when I left home for the first time. It’s not fair to your child to shelter them. Arm them with knowledge and like ex-coach said, teach them right from wrong. I”ve had that experience with my step-son where parents of a team were so foul with their behavior…I simply used the example to teach him how wrong and inappropriate they were.

By David

July 25, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

Lousy gas prices have everybody on edge

By bill

July 25, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

To the fan from Peoria…the broken leg happened when Castillo submarined his own player, the Dragons had nothing to do with it.

The guy was out of control in more ways than just throwing the ball.

By Spenser

July 25, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

I think that the pitcher from the other team, Peoria, is responsible for starting the brawl, he should be banned from baseball for the rest of his life, he should have never threw at the dugout, which hit a fan, the fan could have died because of it, and then there would be a huge lawsuit, Dayton Dragons shouldn’t have to be responsible for the brawl, I hope that the Peoria pitcher will be banned from baseball forever.

By LTM3

July 25, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

Take away Castillo’s Green Card and punish Peoria buy not letting them participate in any post season baseball.

By Martha

July 25, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

In addition, Boo to the Reds and Cubs as the indulgent “parents” who indicated they didn’t want pitchers playing in the outfield. Is this the AL and their pitching “machines?” The show should have gone on with the remaining actual sportsmen. All athletes take a risk when they take the field or court. I guess the “parents” might not have reversed the decision had the fighters been more balanced. Maybe those remaining pitchers should have been rewarded for not getting into an ugly, stupid brawl.

By M

July 25, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

Do you all realize that it was “Boy Scouts/Girl Scouts” night at yesterday’s Dragon’s game?

By Chris

July 25, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

No matter who started the fight the pitcher should never have thrown the ball at someone. It sounds like a clear case of assault to me.

Baseball should be banned for 30 days in Dayton because of this.

By Fecal McStool

July 25, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

I like to talk about stool.

By MNFAN

July 25, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

It all happened because of George Bush and global warming.

By Pearl

July 25, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

All I gotta say is - if I had taken my kid to that game and that ball woulda hit my kid in the head (and god forbid died) - that pitcher would be working the rest of his life to pay off my lawsuit winnings.

By Ex Coach

July 25, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

Peacemom wake up and smell the real world. True it was bad and it was a big mistake that took place. But to take your kids and leave. Give me a break. This was the real world right there in front of them. This is when you as a parent step up to the plate and teach right from wrong. Taking them home is not the way to learn just how the real world can be. This is the problem with alot of parents today you try to shelter your children too too much. Teach them right from wrong.

By Castillo's A Punk

July 25, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

I was there, 6 rows from the fight, half a section from where the ball was thrown, with my wife and kids. The umps failed to warn both teams in top of first. They failed to warn teams after Cozart got beaned in head. They failed to warn teams after Cabrera got beaned. They failed to warn both teams after Menchaca got the brush back. They failed to keep Martinez away from Scott. Martinez should be suspended for remainder of season, Castillo kicked out of baseball and visa revoked, and umps fired.

By Dan

July 25, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

Who’s to blame? Coaches for acting like little kids. Umpires for letting the coaches get out of hand and walking off leaving the coaches to fight it out. Castillo a joke to MLB. Jail is to good for him. NO SELF DICIPLINE WAS USED. NO SECURITY ON THE FIELD, UNTIL AFTER THE BRAWL. WHY? All in All, a pretty poor excuse for for MLB .

By Fancyoops

July 25, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

I, too, was at the game last night. As a visitor from another state (with the AAA affiliate of Reds), I must say my first impression of the Dragons’ baseball was quite memoriable. I blaim the interim coach for Peoria. He stormed out onto the field with clear intentions to make a scene if nothing else. This is not drama school. These are grown men. I attended this game with my three young sons. Here’s a lesson on how stupid grown men can act. The real losser here is the fan who was injurred

By Steve

July 25, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

The brawl made not only SportsCenter but it was talked about at length on ESPN’s First Take this morning. They had a legitimate point about who was to blame. They blamed the umpires! They said that they should have gotten things under control when Cozart was beaned in the head. How can u allow the managers to be that close to one other! Once Cabrera was hit by a pitch, he would have been ejected along with Peroria’s manager. This would have neve happened if Ryan Sandberg was there!

By Baseball lover

July 25, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

Ex Ball Player, with all due respect, what a load of crap!!! Fighting has nothing to do with competitive team spirit.

I played, I coach, and I love the game!!! I have NO PROBLEM with a pitcher throwing hi and tight on batter whatsoever. But for a pitcher to intentionally bean a hitter is the act of a PANSY. Do away with the DH so if a pitcher acts like a PANSY that pitcher can reap what he has sown if thats what you want. BE A MAN!!!

By Thirteenburn

July 25, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

First to ‘Really’. I wondered how long it would take for some whiny, Anti-America/Anti-American uber liberal Democrat would blame this on President Bush. I feel really sorry for you that your life is that pathetic.

Secondly, to ‘Mark’. I understand lack of control when pitching, but when that control is so bad that FOUR batters are hit? He had no business being in that game let alone on the team, so your argument is empty; he hit those batters intentionally.

By PEACEMOM62

July 25, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

I FEEL FOR THE PARENTS THERE WITH SMALL KIDS; WHAT DOES THAT SHOW THEM?? AND TO RE-INSTATE THE PLAYERS INVOLVED WAS “WRONG”!!!HAD I BEEN THERE WITH SMALL KIDS I WOULD HAVE LEFT!! I SAY EXPEL THE MADMAN PEORIA PITCHER AND LET HIM SIT IN A DAYTON JAIL CELL FOR A MONTH OR SO! DAYTON NEEDS TO MAKE THE NATIONALS NEWS FOR “GOOD” STORIES AND NOT THIS !

By Larry

July 25, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

Want to put an end to the whole bunch of nonsense? Immeadiate ejection and a three game suspension for any pitcher that beans another player. Immediate annual suspension for for any pitcher who throws a pitch into the fans. If he is charged with assault and found guilty, make it permanent. Start with the minor leagues and pass it on up to the majors. Fighting and brawling have no benefit to the sport. If the league is going to continue to allow it, it is just going to get worse just as it has.

By work at staudium

July 25, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

i enjoy the dragon’s and the entire company. i agree with and disagree with Mr.Dan Kennedy. i feel both teams were at fault and yes the game should have been called. but sometime you have to do what the bigger bosses want you to. if you are a true dragon fan you would stay with your team. yes it is baseball but sometime things happen. you can’t fix the past so we as fans of the dragon’s should get over it and enjoy the rest of the season with them.

By eskimojoe

July 25, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

Fans throwing beer on players is not fair play. Pitchers throwing at the fans in the stands is foul play. The only fair thing in this entire mess is Marc Katz on ESPN. Sir, you do great credit to your profession. Very level headed and fair reporting.

Will there be a debate on why the Mid West League management rescinded the ejections? That seems a bit over the top.

By eskimojoe

July 25, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

Fans throwing beer on players is not fair play. Pitchers throwing at the fans in the stands is foul play. The only fair thing in this entire mess is Marc Katz on ESPN. Sir, you do great credit to your profession. Very level headed and fair reporting.

Will there be a debate on why the Mid West League management rescinded the ejections? That seems a bit over the top.

By dee mueller

July 25, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

I’m a Cheifs fan, In my eyes both teams were at fault! Castillo was WAY OUT OF LINE! Hope the fan will be ok! Sorry he was injured. But also the frustration of 4 Cheifs being hit in 2 games and also a player w/broken leg? Players need to do a better job of keeping emotions in check! Castillo should be thrown out of league and never allowed to play in bigs! Glad Ryno wasn’t there to see it! Love Ryno!!

By dee mueller

July 25, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

Yes I am a fan of the Peoria Cheifs. I agree castillo was WAY OUT OF LINE!! I am very sorry for the fan that got hit. Pure STUPIDITY! He should be thrown out of the league and never allowed to play in the bigs! On the other hand 4 Cheifs hit in 2 games. and 1 received a broken leg? Whats up there? Yea maybe retalliation but definatly WAY OUT OF CONTROL! In my eyes both are at fault! Just glad RYNO wasn’t there to see it!!!! He’s a great guy!!! He needs to give his team a GOOD A$$ CHEWING!!!

By from peoria

July 25, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

Yes I am a fan of the Peoria Cheifs. I agree castillo was WAY OUT OF LINE!! I am very sorry for the fan that got hit. Pure STUPIDITY! He should be thrown out of the league and never allowed to play in the bigs! On the other hand 4 Cheifs hit in 2 games. and 1 received a broken leg? Whats up there? Yea maybe retalliation but definatly WAY OUT OF CONTROL! In my eyes both are at fault! Just glad RYNO wasn’t there to see it!!!! He’s a great guy!!! He needs to give his team a GOOD A$$ CHEWING!!!

By from peoria

July 25, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

Yes I am a fan of the Peoria Cheifs. I agree castillo was WAY OUT OF LINE!! I am very sorry for the fan that got hit. Pure STUPIDITY! He should be thrown out of the league and never allowed to play in the bigs! On the other hand 4 Cheifs hit in 2 games. and 1 received a broken leg? Whats up there? Yea maybe retalliation but definatly WAY OUT OF CONTROL! In my eyes both are at fault! Just glad RYNO wasn’t there to see it!!!! He’s a great guy!!! He needs to give his team a GOOD A$$ CHEWING!!!

By George

July 25, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

I was there also. Nothing would have got out of hand had it not been for the Peoria pitcher throwing the ball into the dugout. He’s an idiot but he’s looking at felonious assault charges. He also tried to go after a fan with a bat after the fan threw a beer on him. I don’t blame the Dragons organization. Call a double forfeit and you have 8500 angry fans and that is a situation that can really get out of control. A real shame though. Daytonians are really proud of 5th 3rd Field and the Dragons.

By from peoria

July 25, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

Yes I am a fan of the Peoria Cheifs. I agree castillo was WAY OUT OF LINE!! I am very sorry for the fan that got hit. Pure STUPIDITY! He should be thrown out of the league and never allowed to play in the bigs! On the other hand 4 Cheifs hit in 2 games. and 1 received a broken leg? Whats up there? Yea maybe retalliation but definatly WAY OUT OF CONTROL! In my eyes both are at fault! Just glad RYNO wasn’t there to see it!!!! He’s a great guy!!! He needs to give his team a GOOD A$$ CHEWING!!!

By High and tight

July 25, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

Originally Posted by Really?

Umm, how about I blame the guy who chucked the ball into the stands and hit a fan? Can I blame him? Blaming society as a whole leads to a lack of accountability, which then leads to ridiculous stuff like this.

By from peoria

July 25, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

Yes I am a fan of the Peoria Cheifs. I agree castillo was WAY OUT OF LINE!! I am very sorry for the fan that got hit. Pure STUPIDITY! He should be thrown out of the league and never allowed to play in the bigs! On the other hand 4 Cheifs hit in 2 games. and 1 received a broken leg? Whats up there? Yea maybe retalliation but definatly WAY OUT OF CONTROL! In my eyes both are at fault! Just glad RYNO wasn’t there to see it!!!! He’s a great guy!!! He needs to give his team a GOOD A*S CHEWING!!!

By Cody

July 25, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

Okay, first off, I’d like to see Castillo behind bars for atleast a few months but I doubt that will happen. But baseball should definately suspend this moron for a year or two, if not ban him. Accident or not, there is no excuse at all for harming a paying fan at a ball game. If you are pissed on the field, keep it on the field. This brawl is that man’s fault. He took it to the next level by throwing that ball. This is why I hate the Cubs. No class at all.

By BMAC

July 25, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

Aiming for the opposing dugout and hit a fan in the crowd. No wonder he’s minor league.

By woodie

July 25, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

The pitcher should be suspended. Nuff said.

By Mike Tyson

July 25, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

Keltavious Jones is the man! He immediately took action to restrain the opposing pitcher after he fired a ball into the stands injuring a Dragon’s fan. Good job KJ. Kick some Chief a*s!~

By Karen

July 25, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

What a lack of respect for the fans. The leadership by both clubs need alot of help. The players react to the lack of discplince expected of them, it’s apparent by their behavior. Someone could have been killed by that pitch. Bad enough it’s made the news here, but even worst it’s on CNN. Not a good representation of what Dayton has to offer.

By BrianC14

July 25, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

Dan Kennedy is right. Good post, Mr. Kennedy.

By Noyatin

July 25, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this

Clearly the Peoria pitcher. Were it not for his attempted pitch into the Dragons dugout, this would have been a minor scuffle with a lot of pushing and shoving with no consequence.

By RavensRockNorth

July 25, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this

Come on Danny. There is no conspiracy. The article was written last night after the game before they knew of the arrest. There is already another full article, with booking picture, out there on DDN.

By RavensRockNorth

July 25, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

Did anybody else chuckle when they read Dan Kennedy’s response? I certainly did. This is a professional sport, it’s NOT little league. LOL!! Go ahead and sell your tickets. Go ahead and stay home next year. There are hundreds of real fans to take your place. I’m sure you’ll enjoy staying home and watching reruns of The Golden Girls on tv.

By Danny

July 25, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

Things that make you go HmmMMmmmmm ….. Abolutely NO mention in the article that the pitcher was arrested and placed in jail for assault. Now why would that be????

By Confused

July 25, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

Tim, I’m not sure that I understand your point. You’re right, this is mild compared to the world. Are you suggesting that we throw our hands up? I’m not giving up on Mandalay and the Dragons yet. But I won’t be a patron if this kind of thing continues. I don’t care whose fault it is. I don’t have to pay to see garbage just because John Q Public will. Management will get the message or they won’t but I will choose whether I pay to be a part of the problem.

By Tony

July 25, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

I too was at the game. As if management was trying to hold on to their last threads of integrity and control, they stopped selling beer to fans shortly after the fight broke out. Unfortunately, I don’t think it was the crowd they needed to worry about getting rowdy…

But at least they had the decency to see beyond pure profit.

By Really?

July 25, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

If you want to pin blame on anyone, look around at society as a whole. We live in a violent world and a baseball fight should be the least of your worries. If you really think this is going to shape your children’s future that much, you better hide them in a hole and not let them watch TV, read the paper, or even go to school where all they hear about is violence.

By Baseball Fan

July 25, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

If you listen to the audio on MiLB.com, you can find out who truly was at fault. But, there is no excuse for the MWL reversing the ejections. Players must be held accountable for their actions. Who cares if non-position (pitchers) players have to play in the field. The integrity of the umpires and the game was severely compromised by the league and the 2 organizations. There should at least be 5 game suspensions for every player who was to have been ejected and 10 games for the two managers.

By Mark

July 25, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Wow, do any of you ever come out and face the real world. First off, this is Class A ball and managers/players need to realize that pitchers and players are still learning and control might not be there yet. To say the Dragons intentionally hit 4 players is out of line. And for those who say criminal violence = more profit, you really need to get out of your house. Stop watching the media and listening to everything they tell you. This game won’t help sell tickets or concessions.

By Mike

July 25, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

The umps are learning to be umpires just the same as the players are learning to be players. Blaming them is unfair. I agree, though, that the ejections should have been allowed to stand and the game should have been called.

By Bryan

July 25, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

So Hank, this was Alex Rodriguez’s fault? Give me a break. Anyone who thinks all of baseballs ills are because of the Yankees are delusional. I’ve seen many more fights and ugly plays with other teams then ever with the Yankees. The jealously thing needs to stop!! I know the Yankees always win but you need to get over it. I’m even more of a Jets fan so I know what losing is all about!!

By Tim

July 25, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Are you people kidding me? Jerry Springer? drivers flipping each other the bird? ultimate fighting? abortion on demand? girls beating each other up on youtube? the inner city war zone? women’s pro basketball brawls? parents killing their kids? kids killing their parents? rap? the fat, self-centered, whinny general population? the legacy of Clinton— the Junior High BJ? etc., etc., etc. You people need to come out of your houses and realize that this is mild compared to the over all culture!

By andy

July 25, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

The Dragons hit 4 opposing players in two nights and it’s the other team’s fault? Low class all the way around on this one.

By Roy D Mercer

July 25, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

I don’t know what kind of world some of you people live in, but, baseball has had fighting and beanball wars since before our time and will continue to do so after our time! It is not always “Wholesome”!

By Pimp D-Lux

July 25, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

On the upside, it was the only time you’ll see so many black folks fighting without someone pulling a gun.

By Ohioite

July 25, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

Bush is to blame!!

By JB

July 25, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

This story made the Drudge Report.

Not the kind of publicity we need. These “bench clearing brawls” are childish, but they seem to get more out of control with each passing year as the “macho” level escalates.

By baseball players

July 25, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

i miss feeling young,but it was worth it to see all those cardinal fans happy.our family,has changed a lot through the years.im happy to see you all be happy.some times it takes surgery to get you better again.i hope my lesson would be a good 1.i can do the things i use to,but im getting older.my body says no.i did mean to use the toilet in the next room.when i was acting just like them.we all learn from the next home run.our hospitals are still there.

By Brad

July 25, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

Speaking solely to the point of playing pitchers, I can agree that pitchers at this level cannot be playing outfield. Its not elitism; it presents a serious risk of injuring their arm because of the different throwing mechanics. I had a friend suffer a career-ending arm injury when his college coach placed him in the outfield during a non-league game. The solution here should have been to impose a forfeit on both teams rather than to override the umpires.

By Hank

July 25, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

So you go to a baseball game with your child and expect to see tomorrow’s future “heros” on the field. And this happens. And the brass was concerned about their pitchers getting hurt. Thats a A-Rod mentality. Game should of been called and I agree that the umpires (even if they made mistakes) should of walked off the field when their ruling was reversed. I agree with Danny’s post.

By Michael

July 25, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

I hope the family of the victim that was hit by the ball thrown by that idiot pitcher sues them for everything. Furthermore I hope that dumb pitcher never makes it big due to his obvious immaturity.

By Tonya

July 25, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

I was at the game and have never seen anything like it. The pitcher for the Peoria team was a very angry and out of control young man. He needs angry management therapy. I would think that in little league they would have taught him that no matter how angry you get you don’t throw the ball at someone, expecially why they are sitting in the dug out!!!!!! The fact that it missed the player and hit a fan just shows that you don’t always know who will get hurt when out of control behavior will be.

By Dan Kennedy

July 25, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

I left the game. Neither organization, the umpires or the league have any integrity, especially when they CONTINUED THE GAME! Unbelievable! Everything that happened on the field was assault and or battery. Every person off the bench should be prosecuted and suspended. Basketball would never tolerate this; it looked like a hockey game. I have no respect left for any involved, including the Dragons management. The umpires and league didn’t have the stones to call the game, but I expected more from the Dragons. I have gotten rid of one set of my remaining season ticket package and expect to ditch the other set right away. I have informed the Dragons ticket office that I will not purchase any potential playoff games nor will I purchase season tickets for next year. The sad result is probably that the Dragons and Mandalay made lots more money last night of the concessions and this publicity will help them sell every playoff seat. Criminal behavior = more profit.

By Mike

July 25, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

Those of you who blame the umpire are just wrong. You are looking at the incident in hindsight. You cannot start throwing out people everytime an argument ensues. Even if you do eject the manager as he approaches the field he doesn’t just turn tail and walk away. He will get his dime’s worth and let everyone know what his problem is.

If there is blame to be had it lies with baseball. They allow pitchers to throw at batters, they allow base runners to take out field players. (outa room)

By Robert

July 25, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

Yea, Julio Castillo is an ignorant young man/boy who has a bad temper, and made a terrible mistake last evening at the game by throwing a baseball, intended for the Dragon’s dugout, into the stands. He’ll pay. The bigger story, however, is the ignorant, inexcusable actions of Donnie Scott, and Carmelo Martinez, the Adult managers, who have been around baseball all of their lives, for their “boyish” actions that precipitated and caused the fight. Shame on them. And consider firing them too.

By Abraham Simpson

July 25, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Big deal! When I was a pup, we got spanked by Presidents till the cows came home. Grover Cleveland spanked me on two nonconsecutive occasions.

By Yankees fan

July 25, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

In Rochester NY a softball player died after being struck in the back of the head by an opposing player during a similar brawl. Is this what you want ?

By Brian

July 25, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this

I was there..it was shocking.But Donnie Scott was correct when he protested about this OBVIOUSLY out of control pitcher. The umpires should have reacted sooner. Peorias manager then pushed Donnie Scott, their pitcher whizzed a fast ball into the crowd and the brawl began! Peorias Manager and Pitcher were the aggressors that started this brawl! The Dragons are a top notch run organization and good kids..they were just defending their own!

By Fan of the game

July 25, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

Typical Cubs franchise! Just kidding! But this is ridiculous! The clubs should invoke much harsher punishments for these players than the league can do. These guys sent a terrible message to the families watching the game.

By Ex ball player

July 25, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

Did any of you ever see Bob Gibson play?????????????

The possibility of getting hit by a pitch is part of the essence of the game. It’s a battle between the batter and the pitcher and the element of fear that comes with a pitcher is a part of his strategy. Just ask Randy Johnson.

I like to see fights break out at baseball games cuz it lets you know that there’s still competitive team spirit there and it hasn’t totally gone commercial.

Society is really turning into a bunch of pansies

By karon

July 25, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

Pat Baca’s comments couldn’t be anymore truthful. Great post, Pat.

By Dave

July 25, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

My idea is that if a pitcher hits a batter, it is an automatic triple. The batter goes to third and anyone on base scores. Who wants a hit batter to cost you runs and who wants to put another guy in scoring position?

In order for this to work, the umpires need to enforce that batters can’t lean over the plate. And what would it take to re-line the batter’s boxes every other inning. After the first inning the batter’s box is wiped out, at least in the majors.

By Prouty

July 25, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

Did the mascots fight? That would have been the topper!

By DDFan

July 25, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this

I was at this game and this was shocking to see.It’s sad to see the bad press the Dragons are receiving over this incident.The Dragon’s games, organization, and players are top notch.Best run minor league organization in the country!The culprits leading to this brawl were the Peoria Manager and pitcher.Their manager pushed Donnie Scott and their pitcher threw that ball into our stands.Thats what started the actual brawl.They were the aggressors. The Dragons players were just defending their own!

By Baseball fan

July 25, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

I was at the game last night. I have seen brawls at major league games( it happens), but nothing like this. I don’t think the umpires did enough(maybe they couldn’t), but my main concern is that a pitcher intentionally threw a baseball to try to hurt someone. Whether he was aiming for the dugout or another player or a fan. He was “tossing” 90 mph. In my opinion the response by security was very slow. I thought the game should have been at least suspended if not forfeited. Jail is where he belong

By Adam

July 25, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

This is a game that should have been simply forfeited by both teams, with the fans given refunds for this farce.

As for Juan Castillo, he had better have a good lawyer if he isn’t a citizen…because he likely threw away any chance of being in the US in the future.

By Pat Baca

July 25, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

If I was umpiring the game and my league president overturned the ejections because the parent clubs didn’t want to use pitchers in the outfield, I would have walked off the field right there. The message that is sent is clear…if you are a position player, you are above the game and are irreplaceable. Mayhem will continue to ensue. Team and league personnel should work to eliminate that type of behavior. There is no place for it in baseball.

By Darrin

July 25, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

If a karate expert throws a punch at a person, it is very different from an ordinary Joe doing the same thing. In the same way, a ball thrown like that from a professional baseball pitcher becomes a weapon, and a potentially deadly one.

That pitcher should be facing charges of assault with a deadly weapon and lose his career as a professional baseball player.

Some bad choices carry life-long consequences.

By Bill

July 25, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

If I were the commisioner of major league baseball, it would take me about 1 minute and one example to stop this kind of stupid stuff. I would establish an irrevociable policy that “ANYONE who fights or steps out of the dugout to participate in or to try and stop a fight would be banned from major league baseball forever”. No warning no appeals, no suing and no forgiveness. YOU are Done! Other sports should also adopt this policy…people go to see a game played not a fight.

By Rick

July 25, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

This kind of thing is just a part of baseball. One team feels slighted and decides it’s time to “get even” for a perceived injustice. Then it just escalates. What is disturbing is the level of the violence. The idiot who had to hit someone in the head to get even and the idiot throwing the ball into the stands with reckless abondon hitting a fan crosses the line. They should be prosecuted! Also, the umpires need to be proactive. This had been brewing for several games between these teams.

By Lee

July 25, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

Shame on the Dragons staff for not saying one word over the PA system after the incident. We had to learn what happened when we returned home: four hours later! Those of us in attendance did not know how many were “ejected” or that the “ejections” were reversed. We did not know who was playing what position when the game was re-started.

By Riley

July 25, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

The Dayton Dragons actions were justified by opening a can of whoop a*s on Peoria. If not for the other players who were hit by the pitcher, for the fan that got beamed in the head and had to be taken to the hospital. The Peoria pitcher should be kicked off the team after he gets out a jail. They started it, we finished it, with a win I might add.

By Ohio prof

July 25, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

I attended the game. The problem lies with the umpires. The home plate should have warned both benches after the second HBP incident. He should have toseed the Chiefs interim manager as soon as he entered into the Dragons half of the field to confront Donnie Scott. The home plate was in between the two managers, but actually left that face-to-face confrontation to stop another stemming problem.

The ump was too passive for too long. Shame on him!

By Danny

July 25, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this

I say throw them in jail. If I was having baseball game in my backyard and started throwing punches the police would come and I’d go to jail. What makes these guys special?

By George

July 25, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

I’m surprised and alarmed that the league reversed the suspensions. That sends such an awful message.

By Dragons fan?

July 25, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

I’m glad this was not one of the games that I took my young children to see. Both teams need to remember that many of their fans prefer them to the majors because of the safe, wholesome environment that they have historically offered.