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By Pete

December 30, 2008 3:18 AM | Link to this

Still waiting Hal…

By Dougie

December 11, 2008 5:00 AM | Link to this

Hal must have lost his common sense in a poker game at the casino in Vegas. Why is the DDN allowing its reporters to write an article on RUMORS. Aren’t good journalists supposed to coroborate rumors before they report them???

By Brian

December 10, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this

Fairweather fans if you pay attention to the reds you Will see these two trades make sense!!!!!!!!!!!! I would like to see your reactions in august when the reds are in the hunt for the Central crown…..

By Bigtrain

December 10, 2008 7:54 AM | Link to this

OK I 100% love the cincinnati reds…but they are just like the bengals!!!! They like to gamble…I think that trading Dunn and Griffey were great ideas, but to trade a Ryan Freel for a washed up 235 average, 15 Home run hitter was a huge mistake. Ask any person in that dugout who kept that club sane, and they would say Ryan…DUMB MOVE!!!!! As far as Homer, I like him as a red fan, but as a baseball fan,,,,RUN HOMER RUN!!! no pitcher will ever be great, pitching in cincinnati.

By Brandon

December 10, 2008 12:23 AM | Link to this

Now From What Ive heard This trade is far from complete, but from some sources on th inside of the winter meetings the Deal May include Dye, and a Minor Leaguer for Bailey, and some minor leaguers, But Bailey may Not be involved, could very well be Thompson, Stubbs, or Even Valaika. Which I hope Not Valaika, I think he is the future of the reds Middle infield. I also have heard a rumor of sending Encarnacion and Daryl Thompson to Toronto for alex rios. Again this is just floating out there.

By Ray

December 9, 2008 9:45 PM | Link to this

I am a life long White Sox fan, and I think that you people would be nuts for not wanting Dye. In fact I think that the Sox are kidding themselves for even considering this trade. First off Jermaine Dye will easily be your best player next year with the best production hands down. He is a proven veteran and World Series MVP from just three years ago, so if you people cannot appreciate what this guy could bring to your team, then you really do not deserve to have him, especially for Homer Bailey.

By Matt

December 9, 2008 7:33 PM | Link to this

As a non-Reds fan, I have to make a comment. The Reds are about as irrelevant in MLB as anyone. Their great days are long, long behind them. That being said, why are you people getting fired up over ANY trade. This team needs to shake things up, and at least Dye will make plays. Regardless, the Reds will go into next year still 10-12 games worse than Chicago, Milwaukee, Houston and probably even St. Louis. What I’m trying to say is, you are the Royals of the NL. Stop worrying so much.

By Jack

December 9, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this

Boy talk about bad trades. First Ramon Hernandez. Now Dye. Hernendez will bat like 7 or 8 and we pick up his higher salary and mediocre production instead of having open competition among the young catchers. And Dye gives you a year or two of declining production. Also he’s not a good personality fit around here. Again we are adding a lot of salary and giving away good young players for veterans on the decline. Definitely not what a small market team like the rays or marlins would do.

By mike beckley

December 9, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

By Mike! My goodness you people are really sad getting on Hal,like that ,he said it was a rumer.I live across the river from Louisville.We dont have a reporter who could carry Hal’s lap top,let alone write like him.If the RUMOR is true it is a good trade.The guy could fall a sleep out there fall down and still be a better player than Dunn,sorry Hal Dunn was not a pro to me

By Cait

December 9, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this

I don’t think Homer, at 22, is a bust. He’s a head case, not a bust. He needs an attitude adjustment. I’d like to keep him, but I’m not opposed to trading him if we get enough in return. Dye is a good addition, but the price seems at bit steep for a 1-and-done player. We need more than Dye to turn this ship around. He won’t be around long enough to help in future years. Tom - the vision of Homer putting on attitude with Ozzie in Chi-town is hilarious. Ozzie won’t take that crap!

By billy

December 9, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

please dont be like the red sox in the early 80s trading away potential good to great players for washed up oldies dye might give you 2yrs and that is pushing it you need players that will give you no less than 5 and maybe 6 or 7yrs. with that trade i still don`t see the reds going in the right direction. i have been a reds fan for 34 yrs and believe me i want them to win more than anyone else.

By crolfer

December 8, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this

Wow… real official huh? Especially with both parties denying any talks since… Thanksgiving.

By Y-City Jim

December 8, 2008 9:51 PM | Link to this

Identify this pitcher. After three seasons, he had pitched 80 innings and had a 6.08 ERA. This year, he pitched 196 innings and had a 3.21 ERA.

Again I am not opposed to trading Bailey. I just want something a bit more long term than Jermaine Dye.

By JESSE

December 8, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this

dye, is still putting up great numbers. and just think what he could do at gabp ? plus, he is a very good clutch rbi man ! very good trade if they do it ! go reds !

By timb

December 8, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

More importantly (and I hope this trade happens), can anyone write English? Between the “whose [sic] your source” and the inability to spell, are there any baseball fans in Cincinnati or Chicago who can even write?

Before you attack a HOF beat writer, could you buy a redneck to English translator to those of us who still like reading.

Walt, get me Dye and Furcal and we can lift that 2009 Central Division championship banner on Opening Day.

By 3Com Park

December 8, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

Sure Homer’s been a disappointment, but pitchers develop well into their 20s.

Gavin Floyd is a good example. He was the Phillies number one prospect, but he was a disaster at 22. At age 23 he was still a disaster, so the Phillies traded him to the White Sox for Freddy Garcia.

All the short-sighted Phillies fans wrote about on bulletin boards what a great deal it was to bring in a high-salaried proven veteran for a prospect who was never going to be anything more than a bust.

What happened? Garcia did nothing to help the Phillies and Gavin Floyd went 17-8 with a 3.84 ERA for the White Sox this year at age 26.

Now the White Sox have Floyd and the Phillies have nothing.

Ken Williams is trying to do the same thing to the Reds.

Don’t fall for it Jocketty!!!!

By Jason

December 8, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

People need to lay off Hal. He is a true class act and doesn’t deserve the crap and disrespect the losers are giving him here. If his source fed him a bad line, blame the source, not Hal. On to the topic: if they did, in fact, trade HB for JD, I say it’s a good move. HB has never really impressed me in his short time with the Reds. Being young can only be used as an excuse for so long. JD would be a much welcomed upgrade to the team.

By rene

December 8, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

Homer Bailey is young, and probably does have some good stuff yet to come. That being said, I have always been bothered by his demeanor with teammates, fans and the press. Also, his inability to get some more solid pitches in his arsenal is troubling. I don’t think that he’s a “bust”, but I’m not convinced that he’ll be a great star either. Dye is a proven player and Lord knows that the Reds need a solid right hand bat. I think that this move will probably be a good one in the end

By AC

December 8, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

The only way the Reds will get better is to improve the line-up which gave our starters no run support last year! If I remember correctly, Harrang was given between 2-3 run support per game, that is pathetic for our #1 guy. I know my baseball, and trust me folks, we need the bats. If Homer comes around and becomes a good starter after we trade him, guess what…IT’S HOW THE GAME IS PLAYED!!!

By AC

December 8, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

If we have to give up a young pitcher to get a right handed power hitter in the middle of our line-up, so be it! For once the Reds have pitching that they can shop around for a hitter. Now, I don’t like getting someone the age of Dye, but he will split up Bruce and Votto in the middle of the order and prevent the opposing manager from bringing in a lefty to face out 3-4-5 guys who could be Bruce-Votto-Dickerson. Maybe if this falls through, we can get a younger guy out there!?!

By anonymousredsfan

December 8, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

I think Jermaine Dye is one of the best overall hitters in the league and he will really help this young team. He is exactly what the Reds need, and Walt Jocketty is a genious for doing this! I do not think H.B. will ever be a star pitcher if he stays here.

By Jake

December 8, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

Homer Bailey is a bust because he was suppose to be throwing 98 mph in the minors now he can barely hit 92 consistently. He has no change up and his curve can’t get over the plate.

By dudey

December 8, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

HAL MCCOY IS A FRIGGIN A$$HOLE WRITING FOR O RAG OF A NEWSPAPER I WONT PUT IN MY BIRD CAGE!

By HuberTucky

December 8, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

I said SO FAR he is a bust. Hell, just look at his numbers, Y. He’s a dud. So far! Some guys never see beyond their fixed opionons. Jeezus! Did you even SEE the guy pitch in 2008? A bust, so far. I stand my ground on that one. Convince me otherwise based on HIS performance and HIS numbers. Bailey was 0-6 with a 7.93 ERA in 8 starts with the Reds in 08 & was only 4-7 w/a 4.77 ERA @ Class AAA. He won only one game in Louisville after April & that was in September. Whoopie!

By Bud Taylor

December 8, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

Anybody putting down Hal McCoy has obviously never had any contact with him. He is a class act and the best at covering the Reds that I have had the pleasure of reading over the years (and I go back to Bucky Walters and Ernie Lombardi). Can’t wait to get to Spring Training and speculate with him. I don’t know how I feel about Bailey except I’m wondering if these “spoiled brat” attitudes didn”t appear before he was No.1 pick. If so, weren’t they taking a gamble?

By Y-City Jim

December 8, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

How Homer Bailey can be considered a bust is a mystery to me. He is 22-years-old and has only throw 81 innings at the MLB level. Obviously Chicago sees something or else they want rid of Dye real bad.

A lot of fans are critical of Bailey statement of there being a winning attitude at Louisville that didn’t exist in Cincinnati. Sounds like a pretty accurate statement of the surroundings to me.

By tom

December 8, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

Hope this deal goes through. JD should provide right handed hitting spark to the Reds lineup and also should provide mature leadership in the clubhouse. Shades of 99 with Greg Vaughan? Hope Homer does well with Ozzie in ChiTown.

By Scott

December 8, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

If you go to the Reds web site, they are denying vehemently this report from the Dayton Daily News. Expect this story to be retracted.

By HuberTucky

December 8, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

It Kinda scares me to give up on Homer, but, the fact is that so far he IS a bust. Lost velocity & can’t/won’t learn a breaking ball. At that rate will never be a success at GABP. He also sorta seems to be a head case & DickPole is no shrink. Reds ought to hire Leo Mazonne & assign Homer as HIS special project & see what another year brings. Shy of that I’d dump Homer now & take a proven winner in Dye. Adult clubhouse leadership & solid numbers. He’s certainly got another good year left in him.

By 3Com Park

December 8, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

This is the worst possible kind of trade for the Reds.

They get one year of Dye at $12 million. They could easily get a comparable player in a depressed free agent market for the same price.

Bailey is only 22 years old! Anybody who thinks he’s a failed prospect is crazy. Think Gavin Floyd.

If this is true, the Reds are really really stupid.

By Pete

December 8, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

U gotta B kidding me! Why don’t we just unload the ENTIRE future & bring back old, broken down hacks like David Wells, Jerry Reuss, Griffey Jr, Mark Woehlers, etc. etc. etc?? If this deal happens, it indicates that the management DOESN’T WANT TO WIN!

By scott in columbus

December 8, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Thanks for the heads up Hal. Even if this is just a rumor it’s still interesting. Beats watching the 401k spiral down. Yes, I know the market is up today….

By SPOON

December 8, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this

TRADE A 22 YEAR OLD FOR SOMEONE WHO IS PROVEN YOU ARE ROLLING THE DICE BUT ISNT EVERY TRADE THAT WAY? WE ALL THOUGHT THAT GRIFFEY WOULD BE CLOSING IN ON 755 RIGHT NOW AND WE ALL THOUGHT HOMER BAILEY WOULD’VE BEEN THE NL ROOKIE OF THE YEAR AND WHAT HAPPENED? EDINSON VOLQUEZ AND CUETO HAVE BOTH PASSED HIM UP. I BELIEVE DYE CAN HIT 40 AND SRIVE IN OVER 120 RBI AND AT LEASTBE ABLE TO HIT A SACRIFICE FLY WHEN NEEDED-[SOMETHING ADAM DUNN COULDNT DO]HEY TWO HOF WRITERS FROM DAYTON HOW MANY FROM CINCY?

By Matthew

December 8, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

I hope this works out Hal

By scott

December 8, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

He says right in the first paragraph that this is a “rumor”. The paper probably stuck the headline in there to promote more controversy. This guy’s a hall of famer, and people who go on these blogs to spout angry nasty comments need to get a life. If his source was wrong, I am sure it won’t be the last time. I hope this deal goes down, because it would be good for the Reds and shut all you nasty people up. Reds fans don’t come on these sites to hear that crap!

By truRedz

December 8, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

This would be a tremendous deal for the Reds if it does come to fruition.All real baseball fans know about Jermain Dye and how clutch a performer he has been in the past.Don’t forget Dye won a World Series MVP for a team that hadn’t won a World Series for many decades.Homer Baily has greatness inside him, but we in Cincy have not seen it from him since his first start.Hal McCoy is reds baseball.Went to 13 games last year and saw Hal almost every time just walking amongst the fans.100% REAL MCCOY

By TJ

December 8, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

This is a great trade for the Reds. Not only do they get rid of Baily (whom with consistent starts will undoubtedly lead the AL in hit-batsman and bowie knife accidents), but they also get a proven RIGHT-handed outfielder. Sure he is 34, but Griffey was 38 (going on 58) to start in right field last season so this is certainly an improvement. Good luck to Homer though, if he can make it though the season without literally making Ozzie Guillen’s head explode it will be a successful season.

By Bubba

December 8, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

If this deal happens it will help the Reds, but for how long? If Dye is a FA after next year, I don’t like the deal. Trade a 22-year-old pitcher for a one year player. I like Bailey as trade bait, but I hate to give up on him for a guy who will be gone this time next year.

By ChicagoMike

December 8, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

Still waiting, Hal.

By RoD

December 8, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

Hal…your ridiculous. Agreed that Bailey is a total bust. I dont believe my chicago white sox would give up the heart of the team in JD…it makes no sense.

By preacher,franklin ohio

December 8, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

put faith and trust in god not hal mccoy or reds geter done for jesus god bless you all love in chirst preacher.

By Brandon

December 8, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

Dayton is lucky to have Hal McCoy. As for the Bailey trade….if the Reds get a hot dog left over from last season they robbed the White Sox blind.

By Joe

December 8, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

The ripping is justified and I agree with those who are posting it. He is the only one who is reporting the “deal is done”. That is not just a rumor like it is being reported as from other media sources. Hal has been down this road before, reporting deals that are done that never come to fruition over many years. I’m still waiting for Delino DeShields and Bartolo Colon to become Reds from years ago. Those deals were “done” too. If you have a specific source Hal, name them!

By HarrynFla

December 8, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

Hal sucks: your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired. Hal quoted a source that made that statement. He therefore reported a fact: the source said it. Hal did not say it, he reported it was said. Is there some reason you cannot understand that simple fact?

By Deaner

December 8, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

Normally, I wouldn’t like this deal. I would say never give up young pitching for a bat past his prime unless you are ready to win.

In this case, however, I like the deal. Bailey has been a let down to say the least and seems to have an “unteachable” mentality.

Dye could be a veteran piece of the puzzle that the Reds need to win in the next 1-3 years.

Now we need a catcher.

By floormans brother

December 8, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

Anything for Bailey is ok by me. He can hit…..can he field

By StuttgartTim

December 8, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

HarrynFla is correct. Hal is a reporter. He reported a “rumor”. It seems some of you need to buy a dictionary. Anyone can surf the net or wait for the official announcement of a trade. I like having a veteran pro like Hal making the rounds and talking with people about what “may” be happening. That’s what many of us Reds fans look for in the off season. For you other yahoos, just look at the Reds official site and you’ll know the official news only after it has been made official. Keep it up Hal

By dickg43

December 8, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

Homer-to-Sox deal denied by Reds By John Fay • jfay@enquirer.com • December 8, 2008

Read Comments(6) • Recommend • Print • Email • Type: A A • Click-2-Listen

Reds assistant general manager Bob Miller said the club is not about to announce a trade that would send Homer Bailey to the White Sox for outfielder Jermaine Dye.

“We haven’t talked to the White Sox since we got here (Las Vegas),” Miller said.

The Chicago Tribune quoted a White Sox source as saying

By Billy

December 8, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

I’ll take it! Bailey sucks.

By TheInsider

December 8, 2008 8:27 AM | Link to this

I see no reason for many of you to say such awful things about Hal McCoy. He is one of the greatest writers in baseball. I also think that many of you haters are just upset because Dye isnt what you want. Hey, i dont really want him either, but if we can rid ourselves of homer for a guy who can hit 30+ homers for one year, i will take it. Keep writing Mr. McCoy, us “real” Reds fans still appreciate every article that you write for us. God Bless and Happy Holidays

By Napoleon Dynamite

December 8, 2008 8:00 AM | Link to this

Mr. Sandlin….who in Cincinnati really gives a flying rat’s behind about Bob Feller?! With all due respect, A lot of major leaguers fought in the war. He was nothing special. Bob Feller cared a lot about Bob Feller. He is also a sanctamonious twerp because he says Pete Rose should never go into the Hall Of Fame because of his cheating. What about the spit and petroleum jelly balls he would offer up? If that not cheating? All you people hating on Hal…get a life! He is a TRUE HOF’er!

By ShockMonkey

December 8, 2008 6:19 AM | Link to this

You haters on Hal need to get a life. The man’s doing his job. This is pure conjecture but I’d say he’s closer to the situation than any so-called “expert” on these boards. I believe him! I like Dye but he’s 34 and that always makes me nervous.

By Golfer

December 8, 2008 5:42 AM | Link to this

If the guy they get is breathing and under 60, it’s a great trade. Bailey is another example of Red’s scouting ability.

By Ben

December 8, 2008 3:26 AM | Link to this

Get off Hal’s back. He’s not the only one that has this rumor.

From espn.com’s Jayson Stark on trade rumblings: Jermaine Dye: Javier Vazquez and Nick Swisher already have been exported from the South Side of Chicago. The consensus says Dye is next. “I’m hearing more and more that he’s the next in line,” one NL executive said. The Braves, REDS (emphasis mine) and Royals have shown interest.

So likely is that Jocketty is lying to protect the team. It happens all the time.

By Aaron B.

December 8, 2008 2:54 AM | Link to this

My educated guess is that the two teams talked awhile ago… and came to the conclusion that they are ideal trade partners and can work something out. They worked out the Griffey deal.. and I might add the Reds denied forever that they had any thoughts of trading Dunn or Griff but we all knew they were blowing smoke. That’s this teams M.O. — they never reveal their hand until its in stone. I believe the deal may be more than Bailey for Dye…

By Dana

December 8, 2008 2:51 AM | Link to this

Damn Hal…I wish it somehow could have been Garrett Atkins.. I understand the defensive issues. But I sure liked the upside with the age difference.

They’re still baitcasting Taveras to us.. Is he anymore physically sound than Freel??

Why would one idiot pose under all those different names above.. You can tell by the ignorant tone and simple IQ…that is the same Smuck.. Its probably Bowden!

By HarrynFla

December 8, 2008 1:01 AM | Link to this

You guys making derogatory remarks about Hal, did you read the words in the story?

“With baseball’s annual winter meetings unfurling this week…rumors run rampant. A noteworthy one involving the Cincinnati Reds is making the rounds….”

Either you didn’t or couldn’t read that before diving in like rabid dogs to attack Hal for reporting what was said. You can only dream of attaining the stature of Hal McCoy, so you hide behind your keyboard and spout insults that reflect only on yourself.

By Michael

December 8, 2008 12:16 AM | Link to this

Hal’s a journalist. And the best reporter this team has ever had, period!

Being right or wrong is important, but it isnt everything. I would rather read Hal being wrong about something— because of the qualities of humor, wisdom, and flair that he brings to the job— than most other reporters being right.

Of course, having said that one must add: Hal is so often very right.

So write on, Hal!

By James Sandlin

December 8, 2008 12:09 AM | Link to this

Hal,

I sent you a note regarding Bob Feller. I did not receive a response from you on “Rapid Robert Feller.” I can only assume that you either didn’t recognize what I sent to you, or you are not interested. I am unsure what to make of it. I will tell you that I am disappointed because you have not responded.

Paul Dugherty does, what is your deal?

Bob Feller as a Chief Petty Officer - do you know what that is?

R/CPO Jim Sandlin

By Tony in Cincy

December 7, 2008 11:57 PM | Link to this

2 GM’s deny the rumor, and you guys buy it? Of course they are going to deny it…whether it is true or false. Doesn’t the article say “To be announced this week”? I think there is truth to the rumor. I’m not buying Walt saying he hasn’t spoken to the White Sox since before Thanksgiving. That’s a load of BS.

By S-Man

December 7, 2008 11:57 PM | Link to this

Hey, you’re getting a lot of attention for doing this! Probably the most you’ve ever dreamed of. I feel bad for sportsfans in Dayton. Better trust Cincinnati News instead.

By Hal's Source

December 7, 2008 11:51 PM | Link to this

Aaron, you can’t be serious…

Jockety just said that this is 100% BS and that the Reds haven’t talked to the Sox since before Thanksgiving. This is the worst “done deal” trade scoop I can ever remember.

Bust out the baloons and cake, time for a retirement party.

By slick

December 7, 2008 11:49 PM | Link to this

The trade benefits the Reds. Jermaine Dye is a leader and although he is getting older shows excellent numbers and consistentcy.

The Whitesox have a lot of young emerging pitching talent. If Homer doesn’t succeed in 2009 no big deal somebody else in the Whitesox’s farm system will.

This move makes sense for the Whitesox who may be restructuring. Although, Kenny Williams may have everyone fooled as he often does. Additions of Carlos Quentin & Alexi Ramirez in 2008 were genius….

By Aaron B.

December 7, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this

Some real classy comments from the southside jerks. I do believe there were talks between these two teams. I am sure part of the issue the Reds have is the salary and I am sure if the Sox are asked to absorb some of it they will want another prospect or two thrown in… but its a rumor with an unnamed source, its no reason to abuse McCoy who is a HALL oF FAME reporter… just cause you don’t know where Dayton is on the map doesn’;t mean you can pretend McCoy is a nobody.

By Kevin

December 7, 2008 11:40 PM | Link to this

Ignore `um Hal. I hope this trade happens so that you can say I told you so to all of these trash talkers. Bitter people say bitter things.

By joshuadecker

December 7, 2008 11:26 PM | Link to this

the only “done deal” around here should be Hal McCoy’s job.

How can you report something like this? Very unprofessional. Whose your source? or are you just trying to stir up the pot because you have nothing better to do?

By Hal McCoy

December 7, 2008 11:26 PM | Link to this

Monday’s headline: Pete Rose, Johnny Bench and a PTBNL have been dealt to the Chicago Bears for Mike Ditka and a Deep Dish Pizza…

By Tron Labrum

December 7, 2008 11:25 PM | Link to this

Nancy told me the trade is not true.

By Bill, Cincy

December 7, 2008 11:14 PM | Link to this

We’ve got good young pitching at the major and minor league level. Use it to get some badly needed veteran leadership and a proven RBI hitter from the right side. Bailey is a head case. We may not win the division but Dye can hold down the fort until the young players can be developed. I believe and trust in Jock’s asessments and experience in player choices and development.

By mike

December 7, 2008 11:11 PM | Link to this

not true not a very good job of reporting by hal mcoy

By Handar the Horrible

December 7, 2008 10:50 PM | Link to this

HEHEHEHEHEHEH

Should have gotten your source from sports radio.

By sox fan

December 7, 2008 10:44 PM | Link to this

it’s not true. Sorry Reds fans. Dye will not be apart of your team,at least not that deal.

By JP

December 7, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this

TERRIBLE! A 22 year old pitching phenom for a washed up 35 year old outfielder!?! Just like the reds to derail themselves once again! Did Mike Brown take ownership of Reds also?

By Kevin

December 7, 2008 10:37 PM | Link to this

MLBtraderumors has a reporter in Chicago saying this is not a done deal. If it is…I like it if Bailey is all we have to give up to get Dye. What a shame though that Bailey couldn`t be the guy we would have liked for him to be.

By Y-City Jim

December 7, 2008 10:34 PM | Link to this

Stick with the plan, Walt. This flip flopping between developing the farm system and trading/purchasing veteran (in this case, very old veteran) players has to stop. I might see the logic if the Reds were a player away from contending but they are many players from contending.

By Mike

December 7, 2008 10:28 PM | Link to this

Not so fast … Mark Gonzales of the Chicago Tribune is reporting that the swap of Jermaine Dye for Homer Bailey isn’t true. Gonzales writes:

A source familiar with the talks rejected a report in the Dayton Daily News quoting a “major-league source close to the situation” that a deal to send Sox right fielder Jermaine Dye to Cincinnati for pitcher Homer Bailey “was done and would be announced this week.”

By Mike

December 7, 2008 10:20 PM | Link to this

Bob - What are you smoking? A “Long time Sox fan” should know Don Cooper is the coach that helped straighten out several of the projects Kenny has acquired in recent years. The Duncan you refer to is the Cardinals pitching coach. Get with the program, Bob!

As for the trade, I think it’s a stepping stone for Kenny. He has acquired young prospects that will give him a much younger team or allow him to trade for a high-profile P or OF. I hope Bailey stays, as he sill be a solid SP.

By JD

December 7, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this

Great trade by the Reds, anyone who thinks otherwise is, well, not so smart.

And for those goobers who keep saying the Reds are re-building : Go tell that to Castellini, he will probably knock your block off.

By Clammy - Mason City, IL

December 7, 2008 10:14 PM | Link to this

On the positive side, this definitely relieves some pressure on the young guys in the lineup. Dye in right, Dickerson / Freel / Hairston if resigned in center and Bruce in left. Bruce / Dye / Vott is a pretty strong 3 - 4 - 5

By jeepers

December 7, 2008 10:11 PM | Link to this

if you people understood how free agency works you’d realize that even if the reds only have dye for one year they’ll get a first-round draft pick as compensation and replace that foul-mouthed fastball thrower. they could also possibly trade him at the deadline and get another AAA starter. making trades isn’t about rebuilding the 1975 team anymore.

By Steve Beverley

December 7, 2008 10:11 PM | Link to this

Hey Bob, who’s Duncan? The Sox pitching coach is Don Cooper.

By strayhuman

December 7, 2008 10:11 PM | Link to this

Do ya think we can get the Reds to toss in Ryan Freel? I really like him if he is healthy.

By DALE 78

December 7, 2008 10:08 PM | Link to this

Ithink it was a good deal if the only player they had to give up was Homer Bailey .I have heard too many bad things about Bailey , hard to teach thinks he knows it all ,wants to be a thrower instead of a pitcher .

By Bill

December 7, 2008 9:56 PM | Link to this

There should be a rule against trading for a 32 year-old player when a team is rebuilding!

By Bob

December 7, 2008 9:53 PM | Link to this

Long time Sox fan here. You will get at least 2 good years out of J.D. Great leadership too. Hope Duncan can fix Homer as he did with Danks and Floyd or its a bad deal for us.

By Bryan

December 7, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this

I like the move, Bailey’s attitude was a cancer waiting to happen in that clubhouse and with the young staff that the Reds are trying to assemble. Dye while he may not be a great fielder, there is No WAY he is as bad out in left as Dunn was. .270 or .280 with 35-40 bombs has to be better than .200 to .210 with 40-50 bombs. I think Jockerty knows whats best for the team and it buys time for the youngsters in the minors.

By dale

December 7, 2008 9:49 PM | Link to this

at some point, 22 years old doesn’t mean anything..like when you are arrogant, uncoachable and don’t have good stuff. Forget about his ceiling…the reds based their 2002 draft on players with hih ceilings..how’d that pan out…passing on Scott Kazmir..at some point its better to have proven ML talent rather than the potential for it. The farm is still deep, and with better pitching prospects than Homer.

By Justin in Cincy

December 7, 2008 9:49 PM | Link to this

This trade was made to bridge the gap to the young players in the wings (see- Alonso, Stubbs, Frazier). Dye at 11.5mm is not bad at all for the leader in the AL for HRs over the past 4 seasons. Dye will be fine in GABP and will be a great player for the one year that he will be here. The alternative is signing someone who is probably worse and more expensive, and doesn’t fill the need of a RH hitting LF, such as an adam dunn (3/45? 4/60?) or pat burrell (probably the same as dunn).

By im3rd

December 7, 2008 9:40 PM | Link to this

Terrible move. Trade a #1 draft pick who is 22 years old for a 34 year old outfielder. Pathetic. Don’t care how good you think Dye is, he’s 34 and getting older. Pathetic trade.

By adam

December 7, 2008 9:30 PM | Link to this

Scott,

do you seriously think you can compete in the central becasue you got dye. hahaha. u must be on drugs. the astros,cubs,cardinals all have a better lineup. you might get 4th thanks to the pirates. The truth is that people need to stop thiking so much about the N.L central that will go to the cubs again if not the cardinals the reds are a long time away from actually being competitive. so SCOTT continue to be tired of waiting. how do u think cubs fans feel.

By Redfuture

December 7, 2008 9:29 PM | Link to this

While I think Dye will improve the team next year (perhaps enough to make the playoffs) I don’t like losing Homer a bit. Homer will be WJ’s next Danny Haren or the Ranger’s mistake of trading Danks.

By keith

December 7, 2008 9:27 PM | Link to this

didnt u guys just get rid of one washed up outfielder named griffey dye wont make u guys any better than u were with griffey keep dreamin

By log

December 7, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this

Its a good deal.. Dye still has a good arm and not an awful defender. He can provide some championship leadership in the clubhouse. Bailey, while I like him and wish him the best, irked some people, and while we have some young pitching become expandable. Dye can provide power in Great American, and in the Central. This team is young and having him can help everyone. Ramon and Matt are in the waiting plus Ownings, so pitching depth is there, try to compete while you can

By scott

December 7, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

Mike in Rochester, I like the way you think. They tendered an offer to Weathers and Rhodes for the bullpen, and I agree, Roenicke (throw in Belisle if you have to) for Salty or Laird would be Huge. I don’t think they will get Furcal, but I am not convinced that they can’t survive with Gonzo, Kep, and Janish if they have to. I personally love Kep.

By B

December 7, 2008 9:14 PM | Link to this

white sox fan here

enjoy dye, cincy fans. he is one of my favorite sox ever for what he did in 2005.

i hope bailey turns it around here. he has such high potential. cooper fixes pitchers here (danks, floyd)

best of luck next year (except when we come to cincy), beat up on the scrubs.

By DougD

December 7, 2008 9:14 PM | Link to this

Don’t like a deal involving Bailey unless the Reds could get a younger outfielder who is under control for more than just one year. Or a catcher. Or a shortstop. Frankly, the outfielder needs to be a centerfielder.

By scott

December 7, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this

Are you telling me that a lineup with Votto, Bruce, Dye, EE, and Phillips—a rotation of Harang (if he comes back to form), Volquez, Cueto, Arroyo (and any improvement at #5) can’t compete in this division? Come on! If Jockety can pull off a deal for a catcher and some bullpen help to replace Affeldt, I like our chances. I am tired of rebuilding.

Dye last year….154 games, 41 2b, 34 HR, 96RBI. Ranked 4th in the AL in HR, 11th in OPS, and 6th in Slugging. Homer has proven nothing!