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By caught in vandalia

December 2, 2008 9:06 PM | Link to this

I had the same treatment in 1996 and I am not nor was I politically connected. It was a great program back then and I have never done it since!

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By conservativeone

January 29, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

Judge Heck should have recused herself. This court and politicla system is a joke.

By Justanother DD

January 27, 2008 9:27 PM | Link to this

“By Same thing 2 me… January 25, 2008 7:42 PM | Link to this This sort of situation happened to me in 2001 in Vandalia. (Actually right off of Needmore Road in Dayton….) And I was issued the same treatment with diversion. Nice program. Other areas need to offer the same.” Did you have to quit your job when you got pulled over? No. So why should she? I think Lieberman is paying dearly already.

By Mike

January 27, 2008 7:01 AM | Link to this

Commissioner Lieberman thinks she is better than us….she had her husband call Matt Hecks wife Cindy and lighten the sentence!! This is a slap in the face to all voters and she is now the laughing stock of the local Democratic party.

IF SHE DOES NOT SOON RESIGN…..VOTE HER OUT!

By Bill

January 27, 2008 6:52 AM | Link to this

I think the “punishment” for Debbie Lieberman is laughable. This was political home cooking like this community has not seen in a VERY long time. During election campaigns candidates want us to believe that they are just like us….well when you step out of line Commissioner take the very same medicine and truly stand up and show you are truly one of us!!!

If this does not happen…….RESIGN!

By Silent Majority

January 26, 2008 11:14 PM | Link to this

Ok Montgomery County its up to you !!! Vote !!! and this time Vote right !!!!! Look at the candidates and what they stand for !!! Get these people out of office !!!!

By Silence Dogood

January 26, 2008 11:04 PM | Link to this

Virtually everything is “against the law” but prosecution is very selective. ‘Nuff said.

By angry voter

January 26, 2008 10:42 PM | Link to this

well well mrs. liquorman finally got caught ppl. this has been going on for a very long time, apparently she does not read her prescription bottles! drugs and alcohol dont mix, you may have just gotten a slap on the wrist but i bet the home front isnt so happy and hasnt been, why wasnt you at home with your husband and children apparently something else was more important wonder what that could be? hmmmm.. come on voters do we really want this woman in office? damn she really did blow a good one

By Kianna

January 26, 2008 9:35 PM | Link to this

I suppose you can’t attend a political function without passing the bottle. Most of our local politician is guilty of drinking and driving. Debbie just got caught. A drunk lying woman trying to bribe the officer with her drunken stupor. I suppose you fail as a mother too. Do us women a favor RESIGN…

By mike

January 26, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this

The distribution of Debbie Lieberman’s sobriety-test tape brings new meaning to the idea of free political publicity. Most politicians spend their entire war chests for this much pub. We are in an age where the line between politician and aspiring celebrity gets thinner by the day. It’s only a matter of time before politicians become endorsers.

President Bush could endorse Nike’s Air Force Ones-“Not only do I fly in Air Force One, but I wear them too.”

Huckabee could be featured in an ad while the jingle, “I wanna be, I wanna be like Mike” plays in the background.

Former Senator Larry Craig could endorse extra-long-rolls of toilet paper- “If you don’t ever want someone to confuse a request for toilet paper with a sex-solicitation, make certain you’re in a restroom with extra-long toilet paper rolls.”

Kwame Kilpatrick could be the spokesman for those averse to wire tapping and anti-FISA supporters.

Stephanie Studebaker for Fight Night at Caesars Palace.

And Debbie Lieberman would have to be the spokeswoman for an anti-promiscuity campaign, “You can get me drunk, ride me, I’ll blow ya, we can even include handcuffs, but I’ll never ever do it again.”

Though it’s debatable whether our politicians would make good celebrities, it’s apparent that both are a part of an “in-group” that entitles them to privilege and special treatment that is not extended to everyone else. But don’t be mistaken, there is no longer ONE all-inclusive “in-group.” There are many “in-groups” that have different agendas.

Though the “Lieberman/Heck in-group” may save Debbie from a harsh punishment many “in-groups” have taken shots at both families. There is an “in-group” that made the Hatch-Act violation of Matt Heck public knowledge. Just ask the Mike Turner “in-group” how to knock-off your potential opposition. There is an “in-group” that prevented Mr. Lieberman from becoming the state chair. Ask the Chris Redfern “in-group.”

Believe me; those of you who think the Heck’s and Lieberman’s are a part of an elite “in-group” are sorely mistaken. Both families have been involved in local politics for well over 30 years and have yet to be voted in to any office of significance. Trust-they do not have the knowledge, power, or ability of the “Bush-Rove in-group” that discounted votes in Florida. Thus, if you have an issue with the Heck-Lieberman cronyism-Vote Them Out!!!

I’m ecstatic about the type of celebrity Debbie Lieberman has become. She has received more notoriety for her biggest mistake than any good that she did as a County Commissioner. Maybe, that’s because, as cited by the Dayton Daily News last summer, she hasn’t done anything of significance since she has been in office. That’s why YOU-THE VOTER, are a part of a very powerful “in-group.” An “in-group” that deserves much better representation. An “in-group” that should continue to debate the role of the Politician.

Do you want them to be public servants or celebrities? Yes, it’s debatable if the line between politician and celebrity is as thin as I’ve suggested -but it’s clear that both know how to party like ROCK STARS.

By Pat

January 26, 2008 7:36 PM | Link to this

This public official disgraced herself and her office by her conduct, plain and simple.

It’s time for the elders of the Montgomery County and Ohio Democratic Party to tell her, “It’s time to resign, Commissioner.”

By Answer to the Problem

January 26, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

There is a simple answer to all of this and thankfully it has been put in our hands. There is an election coming up. Simply vote her out of office if you feel she is unfit. When she loses the election the drunk driving issue will come up again causing her more embarassment. Frankly the greater punishment to her would be losing her position as a commissioner. Face it the Liebermans are a family rooted in politics. All of you out there have the power to make a strong statement. Just do it.

By steve

January 26, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

The DDN needs to police this board to keep improper comments from being aired like the one from Beer Me… How does a DUI equate to being sexually permiscuous… Let’s stick to the point drop the name calling and be adults about this. I am a democrat and she has lost my vote. I look to elected officials to lead by example and this is a poor example. The Commish needs to lose her job and go to rehab. Was there special treatment? In all likely hood… YES… What do we do about it??? Vote!!

By jack

January 26, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

She got off lightly. I was working for cheap wages while going to school to get CDL to drive for a living. My insurance lapsed by 2 weeks. Beavercreek pulled me over on my way to work. Lost my license for a year just got them back in October. It was big financial blow. It is all about the money.

By charliebrown

January 26, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

Take a good look at the video. Debbie was really hammered! The special treatment by the court is utterly ridiculous.

By biff

January 26, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

This is “special favors” act 101…this is taught in basic law class! Getting drunk on a Saturday, having your case heard on the first day of work is unheard of; this “sweeping” was clear, but did not happen!!! let’s see, calling the judge/friend/neighbor in the middle of the night, to ensure she “knew” who was on her docket,hmmmm Mr. L, if I get drunk tonight, will you call the judge for me too!

By CityReident

January 26, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this

Aside from the obvious favoritism, the other concern for all county residents is the blatant lying and attempts to cover-up her wrong (the tape and “better come out with it before they do”). Is this the kind of leadership we need/want? Obviously since it seems the people keep voting them in. If this city/county has any values and morals left its time to show them at election time.

By Voter3

January 26, 2008 5:01 AM | Link to this

Watch the video of the commissioner taking the field test. I thought she was going to fall down a couple of times. She is very lucky she did not kill someone. The voters in this area should remember this when it comes time to vote for her and all of her cronies, Hecks and husband.

By resident

January 26, 2008 1:10 AM | Link to this

any other county employees would have been canned! with out a doubt. because of embarrassment! she should be ashamed. yes everyone makes mistakes but who the hell is she to basically run a county under false pretences. when my friends have gotten pulled over in the past….automatic suspension license. wsu, blah blah blah.i cant even get a stupid speeding ticket off my record, but if you’re debbie, you’re cool??????????????? with an attorney husband, hish position, and neighbor hecks……comeon

By resident

January 26, 2008 1:03 AM | Link to this

honest to god this is crap. why did mr. lieberman come forward and say there was a call made to the judge to let her know “this was coming”? how ridiculous! she only got $500.00 in court costs (when my friend got $1500.00), 3 day diversion, and no suspension . i have known everyone, from every diffent walk of life….rich…black…white…..poor…middle class…they get a dui, they get their license jerked, jail time or wsu. she should have at least got some suspension.

By concerned citizen

January 25, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this

I know I have seen the Heck family and Liberman family together before at public events. They appeared to have a friend relationship, with one another. Maybe Judge Heck should have excused her self as with her husband on this case, due to a personal relationship. Also if I am going to drive drunk I should stay in northern Montgomery County so that I get one freebie…….

By shocked

January 25, 2008 11:08 PM | Link to this

Amazing!!! When my child got a DUI, I was informed it could never be removed. They have to do jail time and the 3 day treatment program. This woman could have killed someone just as well and she is going to get her hands slapped and it is done. No special treatment???? She is very much getting special treatment. I am not saying she should lose her job or anything like that, but the punishment should be the same across the board. If her offence drops off in a year, why shouldn’t my child?

By Not Surprised

January 25, 2008 10:28 PM | Link to this

All opinions aside, I have seen worse outcomes than simply getting pulled over here in Englewood/Vandalia and surrounding areas that have received the same punishment. As long as it is your first, overnight in jail and a 3-day program, in addition to all the court costs and things, is consistent to what I’ve have seen. Not saying it is the right or wrong punishment, but she was given the same treatment as the 3 or 4 people I know in this area.

By Joy Clark

January 25, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this

Debbie hasn’t done anything that the rest of them have not done except she got caught. How about we suggest she gets help instead of putting a gun to her head. Although, the worst could have happen it didn’t and be glad that she was caught and that her family still has their mother.

By joejoe

January 25, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this

The facts of the matter are: 1. Ohio law prohibits diversion programs for DUI’s 2. the law requires a 6 month ALS suspension for a .13 test 3. there are many people who have multiple DUI diversions through Vandalia Court—it’s not really a one time thing 4. no other court in Ohio has DUI Diversion because they are prohibited 5. the DDN will rarely speak ill of the Heck’s. (Prosecutor Matt and Judge Cynthia). Hecks have too much authority and too many conflicts of interest for one family.

By Cindy & Matt Hack (Heck)

January 25, 2008 10:14 PM | Link to this

gee…Dayton Daily is also policing this message board and I am sure it is at the urging of Hack (HECK) and Lieberman…they are picking and choosing which posts to remain…NOTHING LIKE GOOD OLD SENSORSHIP AT THE NEWSPAPER. THEY ONLY LEAVE WHAT BENEFITS THEM BUT STILL WHACK FREE SPEECH…TRULY PATHETIC DDN…TRULY PATHETIC…

By Clayton

January 25, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this

Even if we wanted to vote her out of office we couldn’t. The republicans and democrats have already made one of their dirty deals to not field opposition candidates against Lieberman, Heck(prosecutor), Davis (coronor), and Vore (sheriff). It’s Karma; Lieberman drives drunk, vore gives a ticket for drunk driving, davis the coronor autopsies the body of her victim, and heck gives her a deal and she is free to drive drunk again. Everyone wins except the victim of the drunk driver

By SAM

January 25, 2008 9:16 PM | Link to this

BOTTOM LINE IS THAT SHE IS NO BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE SHE COULD HAVE KILLED SOME ONE AN HURT A LOT OF PEOPLE AN THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME

By Howard

January 25, 2008 7:55 PM | Link to this

Was she driving a County vehicle when she was arrested, if she was the car should be taken away from her. If the same happened to a regular County employee the person would be fired she should be forced out of office

By Same thing 2 me...

January 25, 2008 7:42 PM | Link to this

This sort of situation happened to me in 2001 in Vandalia. (Actually right off of Needmore Road in Dayton….) And I was issued the same treatment with diversion. Nice program. Other areas need to offer the same.

Now for this to be a county rep.- it is a different story. She needs to resign.

By CT

January 25, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this

Vandalia has had the diversion program for at least 10 years. Whether you pay an attorney $5,000 or get a public defender, if you qualify, you get it.

By Alittletippy

January 25, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

I want to know why the DDN did not publish her mugshot!!!!!

If it were a GOP official, it sure would have been plastered on the front page above the fold!!!!

Look for an editorial on Sunday trying to make excuses for her…

Next story we’ll see, Dem-bo will go to a fat farm for the next thirty days and call it “rehab”.

Got to love our DemFearing Dayton Daily News! Great Job Reporting- Not!

By Mr. Bojangels

January 25, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this

I have to chuckle at these whips that support Debbie “the Drunk” Liquorman. Perhaps they wouldn’t be so kind if she T-boned a MADD fund raiser bus. Get her out of public office!

By Old Scratch

January 25, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this

Why is a drunk Democrat better than a sober one? The booze covers up the smell. What about global warming? Why was’t she taking the bus? What about the children? Oh the poor children!

By Paul

January 25, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this

Yea, it’s “5 o’clock somewhere”. Officials will be treated with kid gloves. Makes you angry? Good! Watch this drunken “liver quiverin’” comissioner because you’ll see her in the headlines again. Drunk at the Little York Tavern? NO!!!!!…couldn’t be!!! Politicians are liars and thieves, with ego’s that show a need to be in control. Sounds like a personality disorder on her part, fueled by the need to feel better by using alcohol. Make her the comissioner in charge of the booze.

By charlie rowland

January 25, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

Dammit! I should have created Englewood DUI.com and I could have had her business….what was i thinking. you pathetic cheap bastards in beavercreek that won’t pass the new levy have me all screwed up…how can i focus on defending pedophiles and drunk students with all this clutter….????

By joe smoe

January 25, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

she said she was sorry is that not enough ahahahhaahhaaha i’m getting drunk as amonkey tonight and when they pull me over i will tell them i am sorry and go away i have to get home

By Dylan

January 25, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

Sense has it right. You ever wonder why drinking & driving is never a problem in the downtown areas of most every city in America? It’s because cities that attract residents have light rail systems and plenty of taxi cabs. The suburbs have none of that, and far fewer crimes taking place after midnight. Cops have to give out tickets, so your their target. They’d rather have you stay home and watch TV, anyway. What a great place to live, huh?

By bspolitics

January 25, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

Hey God Almighty - maybe you should forward your comment to our law enforcement officer and our tainted judges and prosecutors that are only looking out for themselves and making a name. Lieberman made a bad choice, all I am saying is that she was treated different than a common folk. I know someone that received OVI and blew less than her and he went straight to jail and had to be bailed out. Authority figures get treated different!!!!!!

By I'vebeenthere

January 25, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

I have had DUI”S/OVI’s. The fact is I am glad that I didn’t kill anybody. No one is perfect. I’m sure Judge Heck is going by the book. Politics could be involved but I will remind you that if Debbie has an alcohol abuse problem, I am sure drinking is hurting her spiritually. It may not come out in DUI’s but in other parts of her life. So I don’t believe in an eye for an eye.I found that being angry with the system doesn’t work. I learned to “love god, love the person, and hate the sin”.

By Voice of Reason

January 25, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

We love to knock down our elected officials-don’t we? What about her service to her community? So she proved she is human and makes errors. What about the fact she was elected based on our votes-dont she deserve some respect for that? So if this was a friend of yours, a son or a daughter, you would be unhappy with the treatment like you have been? what about her kids reading your comments? Remember, we may not know who you are but there is a God-what you sow comes back to you.

By Howdudothat?

January 25, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

Hey Namrebeil Eibbed/Voter2. How’d you get that huge paragraph in the system. It cuts me off after about 4 sentences.

By Sense

January 25, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

Humans are social creatures by nature. We have always needed to get together with others to socialize. It’s been that way since the beginning of time. It has become a problem in our modern society when people need to get in their cars to drive home. Until cities offer alternate forms of transportation, the problem will continue. As a result people will always drive drunk to some degree. You can only offer them a safer form of transportation home.

By Voter 2

January 25, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

I think the question of whether or not she received preferential treatment is irrelevant because we all know that the judicial system is far from fair. The true issue is if you voters will remember this on Election Day? To anyone who thinks that our elected officials should not be held to higher standard-you are clueless. Elected officials are supposed to be leaders for the children in our community. Elected officials are supposed to be the “moral compass” for the citizenry. Instead, they cheat on their wives and lie about it; solicit sex in public restrooms; and now drive while wasted. Dems such as Gary Staiger should be ashamed to defend Miss Lieberman’s actions.

Believe me-all of you who think there is an “in-group” that entitles you to certain privileges and rights are mistaken. There many “in-group.” There is an “in-group” that made the Hatch-Act violation by Matt Heck public knowledge. Ask the Mike Turner “in-group” how to knock-off your potential opposition. There is an “in-group” that prevented Mr. Lieberman from becoming the state chair. Ask the Chris Redfern “in-group.” At some point or another we will come across those who are well connected and seem to live above the laws of normal society. But the “great equalizer” can be exercised on Election Day. Your right to vote can always change the status quo. Will you remember this on Election Day????

By bspolitics

January 25, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

OVI’s are serious, but our law enforcement officers and prosectors, and judges treat everyone different depending on who you are. Any common person would have been sent straight to jail and lost their license for a period of time; not to mention they would have a convition on their record, unlike Lieberman. The people of authority do what they want.

By Michael C

January 25, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

As mentioned, I got busted in Fairborn. Up until then, I had a perfect record - no accidents and no other convictions (with the exception of a few speeding tickets).

I didn’t blow. Got a lawyer. Lost license for 6 months. No jail, but attended 3-day program at WSU. Diversion program was not offered to me. Went to court 4 months later. Plead guilty to a lesser charge (physical control while under the influence). 3-months probation. There’s no doubt in my mind there was politics involved.

By the Strawboss

January 25, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

I can’t believe how many people on here take DUI’s so lightly. One person said 3/4 of us have done it. Another said 80%. I think you’re hanging out with some serious lushes! And anyone who thinks our laws are unfair or harsh, there’s a pretty simple way to avoid getting a DUI…

By JIM

January 25, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

DON’T BLOW AN YOU WON’T EVEN GET A SLAP ON THE WRIST.OH THEY SAY YOU LOSE YOUR RIGHT’S FOR A YEAR ,BUT A GOOD LAWYER WILL GET YOU OFF NO PROBLEM.

By Clark

January 25, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

We’re living in a little hick town. Of course those kind of abuses is going to occur. It’s like Boss Hog on The Dukes of Hazzard. Same with the policing you all are talking about. That’s Rossco P. Coaltrain looking for ‘dem Duke boys. Bring it to the attention of the Statehouse in Columbus if you want some help.

By SouthSubsGuy

January 25, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

Yes, and stay away from Centerville & Washington Twp. After midnight the Sheriff Dept. prowls and prowls for DUI’s. I was messing with my radio one night and swerved a little once, and had one follow me for 3 miles only to pull me over right in my own driveway. I had to do the stupid human trick right in my front yard. Is that prevention or harassment? By the way, I wasn’t drinking but my friend had been. The cops smelled him and made me get out. I was quickly released and apologized to.

By bspolitics

January 25, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

It’s all about MONEY!!!! Young people are suppose to make mistakes but now they are branded forever, unless you are a neighbor to the Heck’s, then your OVI gets removed, unlike everyone else. She is old enough that she should get sentenced/punished more so than a 18 year old. Instead she gets a better deal while pleading guilty.

By James

January 25, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

Mistake?? That’s right, humans make mistakes. A DUI will be on your record for ever. The effect of MADD’s DUI crackdown is that we have forever criminalize 3/4 of our community. A DUI use to be a badge of shame. Now, it’s common place for most people.

By bspolitics

January 25, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

I don’t think most people understand how much power prosecuters have. They can make you or break you in this county. In many instances they have more power than a Judge. You are just a number and a “win” for them. So, if you have a well known name like Lieberman you will probably skate by, but if you are Tom Smith you are sentenced for life.

By Michael C

January 25, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

“she is to recieve a YWCA Woman of Influence in March”

They should rename it, “YWCA Woman Under the Influence.” LOL.

By I M Disappointed

January 25, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this

Mistake?? Isn’t the possibility of harm to another a threat? Shame that she is to recieve a YWCA Woman of Influence in March (it’s true check it out). I guess it could be called in her case Woman Under the Influence

By Bear

January 25, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

You’ve got that right, bspolitics. Not only that, but now, they have offices in most high schools, and drag the kids into court for practical jokes we all did in the past. For instance, steal the victory bell from you high school rival, and your up on charges. They say they want to teach the kid a lesson, but we all know, they really want those excessive court costs. Money is the root of all evil. Including law enforcement and the court system.

By bspolitics

January 25, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

To all of you broke people stay out of Englewood. They are pulling everyone over. They must need money.

By Michael C

January 25, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

“The diversion program has been in place for many years..”

Really? Why wasn’t it offered to me? I took the 3-day class and all of that. But now I have a conviction of “Physical Control While Under the Influence” on my record. It’s not a DUI, but it’s still an M1 misdemeanor. :(

By Backlash from the Community

January 25, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

We’ve gone from just the neighborhood drunk getting a DUI, to everyone I know now has a DUI. Sheriffs & Troopers are DUI crazy in Montgomery County. They’re driving all over the place looking for any car that swerves. Meanwhile, the rapists, drug dealers and thieves go on without disruption. Bust a DUI and get $2000 revenue. Bust a rapists and get no money and more prison over-crowding. We know what they’re up to. I don’t think I want to give my tax money for that kind of abuse anymore

By bspolitics

January 25, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

I know when I was a kid and got caught drinking, the police poored my beer out and sent me home. It’s all about MONEY!!!!

By Michael C

January 25, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this

I was arrested for DUI a couple years ago in Fairborn. I had a perfectly clean record; it was my first offense, and I have never been in an accident. This was program was NOT offered to me. I eventually plead guilty to a lesser charge.

By VANDALIA RESIDENT

January 25, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

Well, maybe that is the difference in officers. I guess than she is lucky she did not get pulled over in Englewood. I know people that blew less than she did and was sent directly to jail. Maybe these people should find out who is on duty before they party.

By Former OH resident

January 25, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

I lived in OH for 30 years. Now live in AZ. Your DUI laws are very lax compared to most. 1st offense here in AZ, automatic loss of license for 1 year, 10 days in jail, $1500.00 fine AND you must have a breathalizer installed on your car. that is an additional $100.00 a month!!! Have DUI’s dropped since the new law went into effect, you bet they have!! This woman is a County Commisioner and she does not know better!!! She would be wearing pick underwear and hanging out with Sherrif Joe here in AZ

By bondjames

January 25, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

OSP did a great job! They did not provide any favortism to Lieberman. Many drunks get released to a spouse and/or responsible party after a DUI arrest.

By A Voter

January 25, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this

Hopefully more voters than not will remember this on voting day

By dayton resident

January 25, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

I don’t think anyone hates the Lieberman’s. In fact I like them. The problem is she was treated differently than most. I know this for a fact. Most people would have been taken to jail and bonded out. Most people would have lost driving rights for a period time. Most people would have this on their record unless it was dropped to a lesser charge. She plead guilty and was treated special. That is the issue. Not whether she made a mistake and is sorry for it.

By Jim 5

January 25, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

Debbie Lieberman’s penalty (3 days in jail — suspended upon completion of a weekend intervention program) seems to be average. However, the absence of any jail time and the no suspension of license seems a little lenient. Also, Diversion is a program offered by the Prosecutor’s Office (Matt Heck). The accused has the charges dropped. So, Lieberman will have no conviction, or plea to make, or perhaps even points on her license (?!?!?!?) Paris Hilton is jealous!

By Bob

January 25, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

She lied.—I only had two glasses of wine She tried to cover it up.—I did not want it to become public. She got preferential treatment. Arrested at 3:00 on saturday; allowed to waltz into the court first thing on the tuesday (monday was a holiday) and get her slap on the wrist fromn a judge that is a political crony. What does this say about character? Married woman with kids closing up the bar and driving home drunk.
She has not faced the seriousness of the crime—It was a mistake

By Kevin

January 25, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

Ms Lieberman was drunk. She was driving, she put lives in danger. I know numerous people who have gotten DUI’s and have had less a blood alcohol content than she.

By KEN M

January 25, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

SINCE THE ACCUSED AND THE JUDGE ARE NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS, ISN’T IT A COMMON PRACTICE WHEN THERE IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, FOR THE JUDGE TO STEP DOWN AND LET AN INPARTIAL JUDGE HEAR THE CASE? BUT…WHY WOULD THAT HAPPEN IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY? ELECTION TIME IS COMING!!!!

By Danny

January 25, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

Gary Staiger - What make you think we all wear HATS. We aren’t no stinkin HATTERS!

By matt

January 25, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

Ms. Lieberman should be tried in a far away, distant county. She’s too well connected in this county. Most people who get pulled over for DWI are held in the county jail until they are arraigned before a judge. Thus, Ms. Lieberman was already given the special treatment.

For you all people out there, who want the government to create all these laws and fix all your problems, real and perceived, take note, the people of privilege, do NOT have to abide by them.

By Gary Staiger

January 25, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

To all the anonymous HATERS on this blog…what make you so pure?? Haters need to take a good look in the mirror, let those without “sin” cast the 1st stone.

Human beings make MISTAKES. She made one and is being held accountable. She should NOT resign.

By Deb's Bartender

January 25, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

100 bottles of beer on the wall, 100 bottles of beer on the wall. Debbie takes one down and chugs it down. 99 bottles of beer on the wall, 99 bottles of beer on the wall. Debbie’s takes another one down and chugs it down. 98 bottles of beer on the wall, 98 bottles of beer on the wall. Debbie’s takes another one down and chugs it down. 97 bottles of beer on the wall, 97…..

By BillieD

January 25, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

They should’ve been lenient on her, the same way they should be lenient on everyone of us who is not habitual drinker. The real problem is the repeat and habitual offenders. The rest of us are not even buzzed at .08, and can safely drive without any impairments. It’s the stumbling drunks we need to get off the roads. Police don’t seem to have that discretion anymore. Since 2000, they seem to be looking hard for any offender they can find that is over .08 and writing as many tickets as possible.

By whocares

January 25, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

give me a break. everyone with a good lawyer gets the same treatment as lieberman. that is the way it works, right or wrong.

doesn’t everyone know someone who has gotten a DUI. did you spend time ridiculing them on a blog?

What she did is wrong, but she’ll be punished more than most. for instance, people will write about it in local paper and let other people comment on it, even if they don’t know much about the DUI laws.

everyone makes mistakes. people who live in glass houses…

By Diane

January 25, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

She just got caught up in all the same stuff we are all trying to deal with. There has been a huge jump in DUI & OMVI since MADD became such a large special interest group. They give money to the government to enforce drinking and driving. If law enforcement agencies don’t give out enough sitetations, MADD threatens to take away the money. Law enforcement should NOT be paid by special interest groups. Do you want special interests groups owning our police? They already own our elected officials.

By RESIDENT

January 25, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

Well, let’s see. She did not have to be bonded out like everyone else. She’s neighbors with the Heck’s. Her husband is a sitting Judge in Vandalia. And to top it off when she is done with the 3 days of rehab and keeps a good record for one year she won’t have a record at all, after pleading guilty. I wish I was part of that party. Your common folk would have a record and lose their license for a period of time.

By ron

January 25, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

a response to the person who said she could be a school bus driver, I’m not defending her but you should know that she can’t drive a school bus in ohio now. you don’t get 3 strikes and you also don’t get to blow a .08. all ohio CDL’s have a limit of .04 and a DUI will get you shown the gate in a hurry. but i do have a question for the JUDGE, Will the Comissioner get a set of those pretty orange PARTY PLATES for her car and have to be limited to one vehical like the regular drinkin folk?

By CRAP

January 25, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

The diversion program has been in place for many years. This was set up by judge Banaster not judge Heck. Judge heck offers this process to all that qualify. This way the violator must complete and pay for the alcohol treatment program. On a first offence without this program you pay your attorney $3000 to to get the violation down to reckless operation.

JUDGE HECK IS HONIST AND HONERABEL

By Denny

January 25, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

C’mon people. Does it really matter that a person who is caught in a DUI belongs to one party or another? People are human and make mistakes. This is not an anomoly for one party or the other. That is the big problem with this country. We try to pin things on each other due to party affiliation. If a person has committed a crime, then that person should be tried and convicted. If only others would admit to their wrong doing, then we could have a more fair and honest government.I agree w RUkiddin

By missi

January 25, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

There should have been a visiting judge to make it a bit more fair and to look better. It’s been done before. They should’ve asked a local attorney who has been charged with OVI last year and who also filled in at the court at one time….that would’ve been fair!!!

By missi

January 25, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

It’s all about politics….Sure she was eligible for the diversion program…BUT I have never seen someone’s case be disposed of in a matter of a few days….There’s your special treatment. She was wanting to keep a tight lid on it so know one would know about her arrest and that’s why it was disposed of so quickly. On the other hand…it’s good to see that the highway patrol didn’t give her any special treatment and they are out there getting intoxicated drivers off the road like she was.

By DA Dude

January 25, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

Well I think I might have me two glasses of wine tonight and drive up to Vandalia. When the Highway Patrol eventually pulls me over and I blow a .131 on the scale. I will tell the Trooper to take me to see Municipal Court Judge Cindy Heck becuase I want one of those “Montgomery County Commissioner Debbie Lieberman Specials” so Judge Heck can call my wife to come pick me up and I keep my license in my wallet.

By A tax-paying citizen.

January 25, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

Wonder how much Debbie Lieberman will have to pay in court costs to her neighbor, friend, and fund raising partner, Judge Heck?

By Bob540

January 25, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

Not to excuse impaired driving, but who hasn’t done the same in their life? Just cause you drink doesn’t mean you’re alcoholic. Just cause you drive after drinking doesn’t mean you’re alcoholic. If that were the definition, at least 80% of us would be alcoholics. Anyone who spends any time in a bar or a restaurant drinking probably qualifies as impaired behind the wheel. The big problem is the chronic drunks with repeated DUI’s, not the average person. Leiberman should get equal treatment.

By joe smoe

January 25, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

people dont be hard on the queen of beers she said she was sorry and she only had 2 glasses of wine and i believe her it takes a lot not to use special favors because she is married and knows very important people just remember she is sorry so the moral of the story is if u never had a dui go out tonight get drunk as hell just say your sorry

By CityResident

January 25, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

Same story, different name and day..Politicians (especially the Democratic Party in Montgomery co./Dayton) lay in bed together all the time. The big issue is the ethical and moral concerns I have for this so called leader who is expected to take care of our disperal of moneys, concerns, etc..First Heck and his ethical dilemma “asking for party donations” from employees and now this. No wonder the city and area populace is leaving in droves.

By dodge 4 judge

January 25, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

Whats the deal with these judges and their families? I must be missing out. First Judy Dodge’s husband Dick and now Lieberman? Where are these people partying cuz I want in. They need one of those signs in the window “Drunk Judge or Family On Board”. Resign now, you’re not even credible. How bout when the Sheriff wants funding for a DUI check point? I’m guessing that the Judicial Families will stay away for sure.

By drink and B merry

January 25, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

If she got caught it means that she has driven at least 20 times and not gotten caught. That’s the NTSA average. She should resign immediately and take a few Democrats with her.

By joe smoe

January 25, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

its true she only had 2 glasses of wine but what they dont tell you is the glasses were 40oz each .131 hahahahah drink another sweetheart if u get out of politics u should become a school bus driver

By No special treatment...yeah right!

January 25, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

You can’t tell me she did not recieve special treatment. I personally know people who have got OVI charges in Vandalia and their case did not go AWAY as quickly as hers. She should have automatically lost her license on the spot, that is a law and a BMV automatic rule if you blow over the limit. They have an Automatic license suspension for anyone who blows over the limit,and she did not have to have any hearing or appeal process that the normal folk go through.

By RSIDENT

January 25, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

DENNIS IS A SITTING JUDGE.

By joe smoe

January 25, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

she should lose her liscence for 6 months at least and get driving privlages to and from work or in her case to and from the bar we love ya deb hang in there the 3 days at wright state are not to bad in your case they will give u your own room with a mini bar cheers !

By cyndyas

January 25, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

She blew a 0.131 with only 2 glasses of wine?! Beep! That’s a lie. And after a dinner, a meeting and reception, and trips to two bars? Beep! That’s a lie. Where are the witnesses as to how many drinks she really had? She needs to realize that she is putting people, including herself, at risk of death due to her problems with alcohol - not to mention leaving her sons without a mother. And what is it with Dayton voting her in as a City Commissioner? As a former Daytonian, I’m shocked!